see j.liles going from crayford to towcester

more 5 dog races then

Plenty of 260m mad dashes to the bend.

They will soon be going £70 appearance money.JR to Crayford a distinct possibility.

graded or opens?

I am surprised she has left a good paying track like Crayford

Be plenty wanting to get in there

towcester going to pay silly money to trainers per dog

I am led to believe graded wonders.

fair play to them for looking after owners, big tick from me to towcester if this is coming in and is sustained

mail wonders

mail wonders

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Towcester streaming to Asia thats where the funding is coming from,starting soon.Early am meetings 9 ish 1st race .

8 dog or 6 dog?

Tow is not Greyhound Racing it is complete and total Shyte ,the pushing and promotion of this track is Beyond belief, if the Derby ends up at TOW it will be the Biggest disaster that has
hit our Sport since the Closure of White city .This insane push needs to be checked NOW , it is not and never will be our Premium track in its current state. All they needed to do was replicate Coventry They missed the biggest chance our sport has had in years ,This 8 dog world wide shyte will fall flat on its face..

I hate knocking any track ,and the facilities appear second to none  I hope they last forever and show a massive Profit ,BUT DO NOT HAVE THE DERBY THERE ....it will be a complete farce

RLH streaming to ASia ? There are some  asian Punters who could only tell the Difference between Cartoon Dogs and real dogs if they were eating them Its fckin Comical,  can you imagine gangs of Chinese Bettors all get excited about betting at the English Greyhound Track

Or maybe the Ozzies will get involved  ?

The only hope for the british/irish punter will be  Multi/exotic  race pools with millions of Pounds of mug money in them ..I just cannot See it..The Sport is struggling world wide USA OZ BRITAIN, EIRE ,but the Chinese will come to the Rescue

cant argue with most of that case unfortunately

they have done some good things towcester defo and overall I'm positive about the gaff but I never punt there and hardly ever watch the tuesday show, the denial about the state of the track and the 8 dog overseas project sheit is a massive hurdle for them to get over and I'm not sure they ever will or even want to

UK and/or Eire greyhound punters...will not take to 8 dog racing

6 dogs is hard enough

I do not mind them thinking big.

If Towcester have not dealt with the front runner bias...they should not get Derby in my opinion

Casemoney it is dfinately happening,believe me onthis one its signed up and will be announced soon.Early am racing i`m unsure whether 6 or 8 dog but the streaming etc is sorted.A surprising new trainer will be on the ranks there soon.

I hope it happens and is profitable.

Any income to greyhound racing has to be considered good.

Meeting and announcement on Wednesday apparently,new trainer joining.

Ahhhhh the mythical pot of asian gold...theres hordes of asians waiting on the announcement to take up the opportunity to bet into towcester greyhound pools (how they actually  do that fk knows and no-one seems to have the answer either) after the governments across the asian continent simultaneously announce the licensing of a UK greyhound track for gambling across the continent,cant wait.

Very handy if you own a runner at Towcester and its running at half five in the morning

lol spot on tonic

Why so much negativity?

They have already changed aspects of the track - there have been tonnes of recent winners
from the outside boxes and from off the pace. Personally from a punting point of view I would much
rather the old front runner/rails bias had remained. It is a license to print for anyone sane.

Towcester are attracting the top trainers in the country, are prepared to put on top class racing and invest massively in facilities/media etc. Connections are allowed to punt and the management ain't controlled by bookmakers.

People are not fearful of their jobs if a gamble is landed.

They want and would invest in a Derby that would attract many thousand on final night.

Everthing about the place looks like what dog racing should be if it has any future and prospects for growth over the next decade or 2.

Good to hear

If its right or wrong i,ve heard that towcester will announce next week that they will hold the derby. Personally i dont bet there. No idea who sponsor is. Hills have there festivals and i like betting at both tracks. Very much looking forward to all england  cup starting shortly. A proper race run on a proper track. Still cant believe the oppertunity missed to build a proper dog track on a blank canvas at towcester. If thats the best they can come up with after several re jigs well it just goes to show how near the end greyhound racing is.

some great initiatives going on at towcester but the derby at that track in its current state would make my stomach sink

HOVE has to be the fairest test of a dog if you are looking for a derby venue, not sure why it has been overlooked.

Shelbourne park is the safest track.... ryanscare for the punters into dublin, irish ferries through holyhead or rossco, ffs its a no brainer ... easter cup, english derby (@ SPK) and irish derby .... proper dog ! L o l

What is it about the track wonders that is so unappealing?

This weekend over 14 graded races the distribution of winners was

t1 - 4, t2 - 6, t3 - 4, t4 - 5, t5 - 1, t6 -4.

There were approx 13 first bend leader/winners and and 11 from off the pace.

Its a small sample but pretty representative of what has been happening there.

When the 500m trip is firmy established I imagine the off the pace winners will unofrtunately go up.

What is the big deal? And if there is a huge bias will anyone on here admit to having making life changing money from it?

Sorrt should read 24 graded races

Well I have no problem with the Derby going to Towcester

now that the bias problem has been dealt with.

I have no problem with them showing 8 dog racing at 5:30 am for the Asian market if it shows a profit.

Greyhound racing is under severe financial and welfare pressures. Anything that brings in more money will help with this,

if we want Greyhound Racing to continue.

you've pretty much answered your own questions there CC...1 meeting isn't a meaningful sample size and you're talking about graded races where they have systematically done all they can to disguise what the gaff is

I admit (albeit from too small a sample) that the 500 results look more promising and also the far side races do too but I suggest having a look at the stats for all the 480 opens and see if you still think its a fair track and worthy of hosting the derby

*2 meetings* apologies
try 200 meetings then you are getting there with a credible sample

If Towcestor gets the derby the game is finnished

Straights are far too short

Bends are far too wide as are the straights

I can see many owners paying crazy money for dogs to win the derby at Towcestor unless it's £500 k to the winner

Can not

Spot on Ravage.