Tipping line

Never mind Bill. I could have told you all you would get off here was flak. Irish thinks everyone's attention-seeking, but he's the world's worst and Wonders is just a big-headed, arrogant twollop. Etc, etc, etc to all the others who like to pour cold water on something, even before it's started

Good luck with your venture!

Cheers Everton

Thanks Woody

I'm flattered woody

big headed and arrogant and a twollop(?????)...the triple crown

well done Billy, hope it works out for you and everyone involved, the same ones on here knocking you are the same ones knocking Towcester and the colour of gold bars!

TWOLLOP means when you think an individual is all of the following  TW (at), (b) OLLO (ck), P (rick)

Sounds about right?!

they wouldn't be strong enough to describe woody but I will lay off going for a vulnerable man

cheers diddly

Keep at it Bill, fair play to you for having the balls to do it.

funny that I would have said that if he had come on here and said he was going as a full time punter this year

trying to reel in people so that they pay you for your tips is not my definition of having balls but that's the beauty of the forum...every1 has their opinion and rightly so

I don't know u Wonders but I quite like what u post on here in general!....and no I aint your stalker!

no room for any more stalkers diddly...if a spare place comes up I'll give you a shout

pmsl...you fekkin wish!

I might like what Wonders posts too but he's been blocked for ages, but I'm not losing any sleep over it!

seem to be in good form bill!

I dont think its fair to ask you to put the bets up before you/your members are on, I wouldnt dream of putting any of my bets up before I'm on, as long as you put the bets up before the race and your reaaons I think thats as much as anyone has ever done on the forum?

I certainly wouldnt be taking no sheit from some £2 every rag guessing farmhand whos biggest achievement is to total 35k+ of posts and never once post a read on a race...

my hands haven't been anywhere near any farm!

Cheers Pat

That's not a nice thing to say about PF, Patrick!

Unlucky Bill, trying to go outside the 6 looks to have cost it the race in my opinion

7.48 trap 3 BSP 3.1

Tbh although shes not led shes run really well and once 1 turns in front of her shes a million

In a perfect world she would of won but we don't live in a perfect world I live in brighton!

bloody ell another tipster from Brighton, they are two a penny bill not 40 a mth!....;)

is there some sort of tipster farm down that way or something? !

Reckon Patrick Kelly is behind it all!

Wasn't born there just ended up down here!

The difference with me is im not trying to fleece people (contrary to what wonders thinks!) with premium phone lines and I think ive got an actual clue about the race unlike many of these so called tipsters.

I wouldn't let him behind me woody!!

Heard Brighton the gay capital of England, probably why I've never been there!

fk off woody you could be mayor of brighton the amount of "tipping" you do! ; )

Sure Brighton pier must have seen lots of "goings-on" in its time!

So you put two dogs up before the race so far Bill and you have one winner ? Well done 50% ? excellent , looking forward to the next three , good luck !

so the tipping line bets for hove this arvo are...

are...

Not available to you to try and pick holes in

pm me bullets i will independently adjudicate

oops...it looks like the tipping line has fallen flat on its arse at the 1st (lowest level) scrutiny

Done addy

fair play i can confirm bill has sent me a couple of dogs for hove later. i'll say if the dog has won or lost AFTER the race (i dont know bill!!!)

Fair play Bill, good luck

the suspense is killing me

lol wonders go easy, im still ROFL at woody telling fattie he hasnt had many winners

I'm enjoying it addy...its livened this place up a bit

and yeah that was another absolute classic from the great man...I'd say it was the post of the year but I'm more inclined to think it was the post of many a year

FFS BETFAIR ONLY ASKED WHAT PERCENTAGE PEOPLE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR!

what?

I wrote a post saying basically what people would be looking for percentage of winners wise and they fecking removed it! wa nkers

dont measure it on that, measure it on percentage of turnover. 40% of even money chances is ****, 40% at 3/1 is brilliant. if i stake a grand over 10 bets and return 1200 all in im delighted to take 20% of my money, most pro's would love 5% of turnover.

Ok thanks addy im confident I could do that but proofs in the pudding.

strike rate means feck all unless your head gets screwed by losing runs

betting too many thin dogs like that stayer at brough the other night will batter your ROI...that's not a criticism addy just making a general point

First bet was ballymac loops was advised as a place bet as I could see there being a pace battle up front kept running up the arse of the 4 dog and think finished 4th 5th not beaten far for the money.

wonders i made delano 4/6 and maeby 1/2. bet the first 11/10 for a few grand and same for maeby at evens. both instances they were 1.50 on here at the off. not often i like betting short ones i agree, but to my eyes the other night i had absolute stacks of value. even on other nights goings still cant say whether i was right or wrong the race wasnt run a thousand times.

still a 5% return on those two bets pro target

they were good bets addy defo

my point was the more you play dogs at those prices the more your ROI will be battered
for example betting @ 1/5 about something that goes off @ 1/9 is a 'good' bet but earning 20% 9/10 and losing your stake 1/10 that's an ROI 8% (great) but for a lot of risk compared to say if you bet big prices

perhaps, i look at it 5% of 8 grand is more than 10% of 1k, which split two ways, a monkey each, is probably what id have on a 5, 6/1 chance. i couldnt get 4k at 5/1 if i wanted to, some look at it that ive gone outside a staking plan, 200 a point etc, its not about that, its about the market being more liquid around an even money chance and so youd have an awful lot more because 5% of 8 grand (cumulative total those dogs) is a lot more than 10% of a grand (cumulative total of a monkey staked at 5/1 2 dogs for an example).

big punters that bet big because they like ego and flash cash is muggy, recognising that 5% of a grand is a lot more than 5% of a fiver, is not.

80% at 3/1 will do me , this time next year we will be millionaires Rodney.

9.3% here in Jan but 3% down in feb , sh1t happens 

perhaps, i look at it 5% of 8 grand is more than 10% of 1k, which split two ways, a monkey each, is probably what id have on a 5, 6/1 chance. i couldnt get 4k at 5/1 if i wanted to, some look at it that ive gone outside a staking plan, 200 a point etc, its not about that, its about the market being more liquid around an even money chance and so youd have an awful lot more because 5% of 8 grand (cumulative total those dogs) is a lot more than 10% of a grand (cumulative total of a monkey staked at 5/1 2 dogs for an example)

salient points addy
perfectly valid imo to accept a lower ROI with higher turnover in exchange for a higher ROI with lower turnover

try explaining this to woody

2nd bet in the last at hove like the 2 dog

Got 5s 365

try explaining anything to woody

Ran ok thought it might pick up better going down the back cue the slagging off!

why would you be slagged off??

just put the dogs up on here beforehand (with reasons) and you will be treated like every1 else

betting losers is not the end of the world, me and doc have been doing it for years

yes but your not asking money to do it! Im just hard on myself I don't like anybody losing!

yes but your not asking money to do it! Im just hard on myself I don't like anybody losing!

nobody on here will be giving you any money hth

Today at 9:36 PM 







Fancy a dog tomorrow in the last at henlow trap 5 mays fiddlefaddle




Shes bred to stay and has 30:22 at notts and she will love this step up imo




shes 7/2 with 365 which I think will be alot shorter  come race time the favourites to be respected but if she gets in front I think she can hold him

Heres one for free, hope it pays off!

Piss off

ROFL deptford

Will turn behind 1 who in my opinion leads but doesn't stay this trip great and 3 who again I don't think stays this trip great. I've played Mays at 4/1 with paddies as too big. Should lead Sid and hopefully turn third and then get first run at the front runners and if getting a clear run it's a big runner in my opinion.

Fair play on the 4s gko 365 were first to go up and i thought 7/2 was too big but 4s is lovely! See it similar to you and trip should see her improve further as the mother has thrown a few good staying dogs, gordons alive etc etc.

4s with paddy pishy

It aint a Great Start tbh Advised at 7-2  Then Powers go 4

That run by Sid to pick up Michel was a Decent run ,She Certainly gets 550, I was surprised he got to her Dont Know your Dog ,G luck

Billy you are supposed to be a Hove expert now in desperation to prove yourself you are tipping dogs at henlow at the wrong prices ! Agree with Deptford
tbh

gonna knock u out • February 9, 2016 6:13 PM GMT
Thought you was only tipping at Hove?

Billbullets • February 9, 2016 6:15 PM GMT
No not just at hove but that is the primary track i follow.

Sorry but 5s with corals is totally wrong imo I have no shame to admit I took 7/2.

Do yourself a favour and run along,there's a good boy. With one crackpot exception people on here are pretty good judges and if you think any of them are going to pay for your advice you need urgent medical attention

7/2 about a 5/1 shot, think I will sign up

she wont be 5/1 come the off hth

Henlow bookies shorten everything up, they are shocking, but that isn't the point

Deptford 14 Feb 16 10:49 Joined: 29 Jun 10 | Topic/replies: 3,412 | Blogger: Deptford's blog
Do yourself a favour and run along,there's a good boy. With one crackpot exception people on here are pretty good judges and if you think any of them are going to pay for your advice you need urgent medical attention


ROFL

Don't bother to subscribe to any tipping line.You're better off setting fire to your money. Cuts down on the winter fuel bills.

Jeez, sore one that.

Desperate but would play that at that price every time, unlucky Bill

Yes unlucky lads dog ran a blinder

Just Didn't Get home Bet was right I did say I don't know how 6 picked 3 up last Time

Colin, that was the run I was going on thinking 3 wouldn't last home

To be caught with a lead like that off the last bend by 3 only means one thing.

Desperate! Oh well was the wrong price all day my only worry was she might not get it but didn't envisage her being picked up until she actually did!

Backed Michel a few times over the trip she defo gets it, think 6 is half mental anyway hence picking her up over 550

1.05 in running imo

Michel 6 attempts at this trip and never won before.

Did you hear the aye ayeing down the back bet he feels silly now!

Mays didn't get it simple as, bet was right end result wasn't wipe your mouth and move on

watch michels' race again as she gets done for middle but is bang with sid 50 yards later

Michel stays it strong ive been on her a few times over 692 and tbh foolishly ignored her I just didn't envisage mays falling in such a hole!

They all look strong going past non stayers,

Feb 14, 2016 -- 10:49AM, Deptford wrote:

Do yourself a favour and run along,there's a good boy. With one crackpot exception people on here are pretty good judges and if you think any of them are going to pay for your advice you need urgent medical attention