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Aladdin Sane
05 Dec 15 11:19
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The greatest dog ever (imo) against the biggest crowd puller ever.  Anyone else at Wembley on that
memorable evening?

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By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 05 Dec 15 11:39
was there
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 05 Dec 15 11:49
was it 4/9 bob 2/1 sculogue?

must of been plenty for bob at that price if correct you would think
By:
bbc2
When: 05 Dec 15 12:02
yep i was their not much of a raceSad
By:
Oceanfinance
When: 05 Dec 15 12:12
What's John Power up to these days anyone know?
By:
Winja
When: 05 Dec 15 12:14
watched it live on sportsnight.....desperately disappointing when champ stopped running.....
By:
Winja
When: 05 Dec 15 12:16
oceanfinance.......I assume you mean Tom Jenkins.......
By:
bbc2
When: 05 Dec 15 12:37
tom a strange bloke lay you lumps on the dogs at hackney ask for a tenner on the snooker no chance.pay you out quickly after last race hackney then off to his beloved west ham
By:
Oceanfinance
When: 05 Dec 15 12:43
Yes i do winja. My uncle used to put bets on for people at Wembley. Apparently he used to lay some proper bets even though he knew the backers had good info.
By:
Winja
When: 05 Dec 15 12:48
he laid a bet wherever he stood finance......he also had the charisma that made you want to bet with him......his turnover must have been something to behold compare to todays books......I remember on one of these "yester year" posts recently someone gave an update on Tom.....
By:
Macintoshmatty
When: 05 Dec 15 13:09
I was there, shame the champ went lame, I was on Ballyregan but would have liked to see if I was right.
The little bitch that they kept running against Scurologue as well, think they gave the owner appearance money to turn up and get beat, game little dog though, in another era.

Still miss it
By:
Deptford
When: 05 Dec 15 13:12
I was there, a right anti climax, used to love going there
By:
Winja
When: 05 Dec 15 13:22
did champ go lame or just stop chasing as bob was uncatchable....
By:
dpf
When: 05 Dec 15 13:27
I was there. The way I saw it Champ stopped chasing .....so far behind got unsighted.
By:
Winja
When: 05 Dec 15 13:33
I think champ was used to being unsighted dpf......just never chased a dog as quick as bob before....thirty years on we all still have our opinions Grin
By:
Aladdin Sane
When: 05 Dec 15 13:40
It was also the first time that I can recall spectators at a greyhound meeting wearing rosettes.  I know that it's common place
now, but from what I can remember I don't remember them being worn at any major meetings prior to to that evening. 
I wonder if there'll ever be anything again that gets anywhere close to the anticipation leading up to that race.
By:
horusisis
When: 05 Dec 15 14:13
one of the best atmosphere at any sports event i ever attended, i had never saw the rosettes before that night, i was a great fan of champ but felt that he bottled it that night, couldnt see it beforehand due to loving champ but realised bob was a far better dog than champ
By:
Macintoshmatty
When: 05 Dec 15 15:31
Yes Bob was the better dog over that distance,710m?
Think they carried Scurologue off didn't they and don't think it ran again.
Was the bitch Glendale Lady or Glendale Lass that used to run against them, early paced railer ?
Memory going/gone
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 05 Dec 15 15:37
glenowen queen
By:
dr . atkins
When: 05 Dec 15 17:01
tom works for ben keith and john not in the country
By:
ebulGery
When: 05 Dec 15 18:04
right Ron, think she took him a few times never better than 2nd

The distance was too short for Scurlogue imo

If they had campaigned Bob for the Derby he may have won, but they went for the unbeaten record
By:
woodmanchester
When: 05 Dec 15 18:42
...but why did The Champ pull himself up? He used to be miles behind marathon dogs most of the way but my theory is he simply knew he wouldn't get anywhere near Bob, so just stopped. Clever dog
By:
sparrow
When: 05 Dec 15 19:04
Bob was probably the best 6 bend dog of all time.
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 05 Dec 15 19:31
they reckon it might of been the noise from the crowd woody,
what with being so far back + deafened out from the hare maybe?

don't know
By:
Macintoshmatty
When: 05 Dec 15 19:34
Bob didn't really have enough early pace for a derby at wimbledon, best stayer I ever saw though.
Bobs connections wouldn't race Scurologue over further than the 710m, think the next distance up was 830m at wembley, that would have started just before the bend, not sure how that one would have turned out, might have favoured Scurologue.
We'll never know
By:
ebulGery
When: 05 Dec 15 19:39
830m would have been fairer
By:
Macintoshmatty
When: 05 Dec 15 19:41
At one time the Jenkins brothers bought a snooker club in the Walthamstow area, think it was after John got banned from racecourses.
Used to hold big poker games there, John used to get up on the stage and be the entertainment, pretty much what he used to do on his pitches, 'Even money, one out of every 2 gets beat', think he was a frustrated entertainer.
By:
hectoratoratora
When: 05 Dec 15 19:50
As Russian Ron said the bitch was glenowen queen trained by Dickie Hawkes ,and before the race he predicted that Scurlogue would stop.Not a bad judge.
By:
casemoney
When: 05 Dec 15 20:09
I was there massive Crowd Happy
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 05 Dec 15 20:13
id actually forgot she (glenowen queen) won the tv trophy in 1987
By:
hectoratoratora
When: 05 Dec 15 20:46
Have a feeling Track Man was the other runner.
By:
Deptford
When: 05 Dec 15 21:12
Columbo wouldn't be able to work out what went through Scurlogues head, what a dog
By:
eyeball
When: 05 Dec 15 22:20
Track man was the other runner
By:
lumponlarge
When: 06 Dec 15 06:18
I had the biggest bet (stake) I have ever had on that race ... thirty years ago ... I have not even had a bigger bet in the 30 years since. If memory serves me right it was a Dead Heat for 2nd
By:
born a winner
When: 06 Dec 15 08:15
Heard long while ago John Jenkins working in South Afruca ?what does Tom do nowadays fir Ben Keith?
They were two very colourful personalities  in the 80,s .
By:
safari guide
When: 06 Dec 15 10:07
Well done for publishing this post Aladdin. Plenty of replies from long standing members and it just goes to show if the subject matter is good the forum will respond. Having a broader spectrum of subjects invites all to contribute.
By:
Aladdin Sane
When: 06 Dec 15 10:23
Appreciate your kind words Safari.  It was such a momentous occasion in the sport that I just felt an urge to share the memory.  Too often we are all guilty of looking at the past through rose tinted spectacles.  However, in this case I think it's well warranted. A truly golden age that I fear will never be repeated. Who would have believed that 30 years later we're looking at the prospect of NO greyhound stadiums in the capital city.
By:
ONSLOW1974
When: 06 Dec 15 10:44
The race at the Stow where BOB beat Ballintuber One over 4 bends
was probably the best race live I have ever seen.
By:
Aladdin Sane
When: 06 Dec 15 10:49
I was lucky enough to be there that night as well Onslow.  To give Ballintuber around 6 lengths and pick him up was astonishing (clocked around 28.60 or something I think). An incredible greyhound.
By:
ONSLOW1974
When: 06 Dec 15 10:51
Remember they bet 10/11 Bob 11/10 One & 33/1 Bar
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