Hills wanting to lay Nidge then withdrawn.(STINKS)

perhaps - and it seems like it might be the likely scenario - but everyone is shunting him out for day of the race as well which will just be voided. is he definitely out?

Yep - out lame

All over twitter now

I'm sure certain journalists knew well in advance and nicked a few quid before alomost simultaneously tweeting it!

the games been bent ever since my dad had all six runners in a flapping open race at Halifax in 1962

lol yorky

the derby been ruined with injuries and going hope wimbledon f.club get the place

really? think id rather paschal get it.....albeit the man must have the patience of a saint if he is still interested.

surely not a massive shock considering how he ran saturday
anyone backing him to win the derby on the back of that probably deserves to do the money

He was not lame the other night in his run ya fkin wankbag, you must be asome fkin cant if you think people deserve to lose money this way

another dog injured at saturdays meeting that going was bad and still nothing said you trainers are wimps for not speaking out

we aint had the 3 runs yet

Nice to see racing post team got Ivan duke story taken down plot thickens.j.k and the gang acting quick.

wonder if the track will be flooded again tonight

Unlucky backers


Ivan Puke was taking the pi$s with that comment that PF posted earlier

Shocking

drifted like a barge from 14's to 21's a few days ago and i smelt a rat.  The biggest giveaway was the 100's at 5's that appeared wanting to lay him to make the final, should have been around 6/4 now.

had some on at 14's looking to trade him but then someone took him to 20's and i was fooked.  think a fair few quid was matched at that and when it was taken, more 20's became available straight away.  And when combined with every other dog being hammered,  maverik, sanchez and now salonika, i knew something was up. Didnt say out but suspected something was up and was fairly fortunate that some poor soul took alot of 20's last night and my 17.00 that i had up this morning had gone.  When this went i thought he was ok to be honest and had 200 up at 14.00 which is still there but now coming back from town, he's 50+.

the money knew, the drift was alarming.

Iven Duke will be getting his head drowned in a bog with a massive floater for company next week

premier fantasy yer a right p rick yerself
do you really think that was as good as that dog is on saturday then?
hopefully you did then had yer tank on afterwards and done yer bollox
you come on here thinking your god when in reality youre just a prize bellend

Aye I am the bellend, you're happy people got shafted by the bookmakers knowing the dog was not likely to run which I have been told for fact.

I has €50 @ 20, €70 @ 21 and €150 @ 16s - so no I have no done my bollox but am heavily pissed off at the way they've acted, I spotted what going on a few minutes too late unfortunately for me

As for his run Saturday I thought he ran poor enough and was desperate lucky to qualify but then he absolutely walked out and still clocked in the 28:40s

Jun 16, 2015 -- 1:02PM, p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y wrote:

Iven Duke will be getting his head drowned in a bog with a massive floater for company next week

pmsl

bet 1.01 william hills prices laid in 9.08 will stand no going on s.p to try get them out of it still stinks

Always remember what J.K said its the William hill greyhound derby.time after time.we have no chance when these men are the voice of our sport.makes me sick.HONESTY and INTEGRITY found wanting.

I'm not pleased about anyone being shafted by the big off course firms I despise them as much as anybody
My point is that youd be some kind of fool to have backed nidge after the way it ran saturday

Really, you want to start pricing up races and lay my bets then? Obviously I am a clueless fool

There's a thread elsewhere on the forum referencing the halcyon days of the Derby at White City.  Compare that magnificent event to what we have today.  For what it's worth you have my sympathy PF. I lost my money on this years event before the first heat was run as Blake didn't make the trip.  I accept that was part of the risk of backing ante-post. However, what's happened here leaves a bad taste in the mouth and I can understand your anger and I for one, feel for you..

Just looked on oddschecker

Coral also went from 8/1-16/1 for Nidge outright this morning around 9am

All trying to nick a few quid before the withdrawal, disgrace

like everyone I will stick prices up which i feel favour me
whether they get backed or laid is up to everyone else you included

correct gwlad, disgrace is the word

I just don't understand why people continue to bet on this sh1te...its a massive guess up even for judges and firms like hills will try and get from you 1 way or another, playing dirty where necessary and no holding back

Thanks Aladdin but I don't expect anybodies sympathy, i done a few quid and that happens. I just don't like the way they acted here, personally i think it is utterly disgusting and we wonder why younger people (like myself) have zero interest in getting involved in the sport.

Had i been more on the ball i would have noticed the situation or had i made the call before chucking a few quid at it i would have knew what was going on so i can accept that's my fault but that does not mean i should not call them out for what exactly they are.

Added to that why they're trying to nick a few extra quid when Willie had bet the dog to win absolute fortunes with them seems pathetic

Someone on twitter asked Scott Murray about the drift, @ScottMurray85, William Hill Greyhound Odds Compiler


reply was

''yes he wasn't fancied on the back of his last run, did u think he was a 10/1 poke on the back of his last run?''

So they are simply saying they were out to lay Nidge after the last run on Saturday, so why the drift this morning? not Sunday/Monday?

I can't imagine Kate Miller letting that story out when she was PR for them - Ivan Duke has scored a massive own goal, not that the press will ever mention it!

Puke will be lapping it up at Royal Ascot today,

probably didn't even know the Derby was on tonight before he got handed that press release earlier

look its a war between punters and bookmakers what would you do take advantage thats what hills have done

It's also a war between punters and punters on here Doc, so would you be alright with me buying a kennel for bags and nailing them non stop and laying the knackers out of them on here?? Or sending my dogs over to race on RPGTV and doing the same??

It's easy saying that but you're expected to play with a degree of fairness

Ivan Duke is to greyhound racing What Fred West was to gardening ........

agree to an extent doc but they have SO MUCH in their favour - cutting judges, closing accounts, laying mugs, FOBT's, the going at the tracks without needing to scab a few quid in such a dishonest fraudulent way

guys the drift happened 2 days ago,  i had 14's up to bet him, and that was taken, so i put up 13's to trade out like a flithy trader does. 

But then someone put up 15's, and 16's and left it there.  Small drift i thought, but poor-ish run someone bailing out i thought. 

Put up wanting to back some 18's and 21's and 40's to see how badly they really wanted to get out. 18 and 21's went and i then tried to be a filthy trader again and put up 17's to trade out.

But someone put a chunk up at 21.  i took a few quid, on all known infor that was a wrong price and i suspected i could get out later.

Watching the amounts tho, as soon as someone took some more 20's, more would become available.  I went to the to make final market and saw 5/1 to make the final.  I was so tempted and nearly took it all to cover a big red outright somewhat but thought better of it. As bets for sanchez, maverik, bish and nipper all came in.

I put up some 21's to reverse my back and it was nibbled but someone put up 22's and few quid at 23.  It stunk but i didnt have info, just smelt a rat.  I didnt say nout as i needed to take about 400 quid from 17's down wards.  Overnight, the 20's was nibbled and this morning someone, probably pf then had taken 150 at 17.00 and price i thought was now correcting itself.

went to town

came back and now 500+ 

the money knew a few days ago sometime sunday.  dont think il come to night of stars this year?

pmsl case or what gary glitter is to babysitting

casemoney

Joke Corals are refunding money from the time of their price push

pf people are laying dogs on here please people dont tell me you aint to advantage when you got a bit of help i remember last year when wallis did not turn up at romford when bob was a nr i made sure i took advantage on the ap market thats the game

the only plus i have is i hope it helps my irish to win the derby bet with the filth.

No Doc I do not believe bookmakers laying bets that it is impossible on the punter to win from is right.

Anyway got to head off for a while, next week should be interesting

I PREDICT A RIOT

Hills refunding now, hmmmmm I wonder why

Anyway the RGT can benefit from it (I don't want it back off them trying for some good press) and I will give it to them on the way in next week

Should Betfair be taking any action??
e.g.
Closing the accounts of those that have placed lays on subsequent NRs outside their normal betting pattern
Suspending betting when odds drift a certain percentage

no - otherwise you'd be suspending the accounts of half the horse racing punters on a daily basis.........

lol

some people on his forum should not be aloud to bet

because they aint got a clue about betting

Very nice language and content Clouseau. You clearly enhance and enrich the best forum on the internet! Pat might say you are being obnoxious but then, you are a pal of his so you'll not be subject to his "Forum policing"> 

no irish i dont know how you or anyone else bets i am only going by some of the comments i see on the greyhound forum

sorry pf

no problem Doc, i just wasn't sure

if a price looks too good it probably toogood so beware

pf should self exclude for 6 months around december time,  back in time for shelbourne park where he is infairness the daddy.

Anyone who backed Nidge after saturday must have had some bizarre `inside info' that he
was being stopped last weekend to set up a coup for the rest of the derby.

Would there have been an inquest if that had happened?

And yes the good thing is that this stuff happens very infrequently on the dogs.

On the 'orses there are non runners laid every 5 minutes and every other race has 5 horses with
vertical graphs that finish tailed. It is rancid x1000% compared to this game.

Love It. Mugs

It's about integrity.

I'm a great believer in believing what you see at Wimbledon and whilst I had no idea he was lame he clearly wasn't the dog who had run the week before.  Shame for conns, at least they brought him over, for which I thank them.  Hope he gets back and fully fit.