TOWCESTER BOOKMAKING PITCHES

someone said nigel 170 per cent flowers is standing

big gary is standing

barry johnson

Does it matter? Better to bet on the earlies and exchanges instead!

track is not far from bletchley park ,so the intelegance force may soon find what bookmakers are going to be in operation

I bet all these bookies will be purchasing new lambos feraries rollers or m3 beamers with first weeks winnings

Will make them Sheffield bookies look like small change

They'll be betting to 135% -155% on the graded stuff and that is a NAP.

If do no one will go and bet with them

Suppose it gets them out of the house at nights instead of watching repeats of dads army

they need proper dog bookies who bet to there opinion not the machine any
one can trade money and not stand one for 2 bob

At the weekend, he still hadn't decided on the 5th bookmaker, better soon pull his finger out and make a decision!

who are the 4 books then

Nigel Flowers, Nicky Wiltshire , Barry Johnson and BG Racing

Or Maybe Not.....

fck knows what will happen if betfair goes down with that lot

Ian P they were the four I had been told, but they don't know under what terms/cost (if any) so could change depending on what ££ they are asked for !!

Plenty of 3/1 the field races then..........................................on the EIGHT dogs races!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Coulton Boys

Look at the awful percentages in the first races

Absolute disgrace

nothing to stop you having a go ravage

Apart from 200+ miles

Always going to be bad when one bookmaker has 50 % of the books! Probably linked!!  You could complain to the management, but don't think they're got a clue regarding bookmarking! If they had they would  have had 4 individuals, to make a more competitive market not give one person two pitches.

Who the person that has two pitches like

What a joke that is

was going to go but instead ive had an idian and drinking
for engalaaand

19:34 IV 480m
1st £1000, 2nd £250, 3rd £150, Others £100 Race Total £1700
Full result

1 (1)        Fairest Royal (b - wbk)
M A Wallis    3                        4/1
2 (3)        Miss The Flight (d - bk)
H P J Kemp    2                        10/1
3 (4)        Rockmount Zumo (d - be)
D M Law    3                                5/2
(5w)        Benkaat Boomer (d - bd)
M A Wallis    2                        1/1f
(2)        Borna Native (d - be)
M J Dartnall    2                        3/1
(6w)        Larky Ego (b - bk)
C Allsopp    3                        8/1

143% They can stick that market where the sun don't shine.

You should have thrown your hat into the ring boys & applied for a pitch .... its so easy making a book. you know that ! ? ??

7.49 - 142%

Absolutely diabolical, what a truly despicable advert for Towcester. Flapping track returns.

is that proof ?

inside bias ?

I've got a job lets go home, I don't want to be an on course bookmaker. Are you trying to defend those returns on what is after all supposed to be a celebration in the sport of a new track opening? Personally I think it will put off anyone who is curious as to how the track is going from attending. My brother lives in Bedford and that's not far away so could stay with him no problem but you know what, if that is the status quo for future meetings I don't think I'll bother...

galway is 180% regular

140 % disgusting must be a few of the on the end afternoon bookies making the book

i will go the once
but whos going regularily at the %

Ravage - Barry Johnson/Quantum, same firm,
I know of at least 2 others that applied, to be told, sorry full up!

20.04 - 144%

What a joke.

Of course not SlippyBlue but lets be honest here it's first night opening & there is a load of curious first time punters over there & the Books are going to nail them to the floor ... don't blame um ... never give a sucker a even chance as they say

disgrace once you know nigel theres forget it mugs welcome bookmakers f... it up on first night

it aint looking good

hope im wrong i really do

Apply for a pitch then Mad.dog.man then you can give the public a fair crack of the whip .... it's easy making a book you know ? ???

Mad dog, Nigel Flowers thinks he is still at Milton Keynes betting on a Sunday afternoon BAGS card. I love Towcester as a horse racecourse but I'm really not interested in going to the dogs if this is what they come up with on the opening night, count me out. What a PR gaff, absolutely unbelievably stupid to return like they have tonight.

its a p1ss take betting to 140 per cent good luck getting any punters there but what do you expect with barry clueless johnson betting think hes got 6 pitches derby day at epsom wont see me anyway near any track that the bookmakers bet 140 per cent and please don't say why don't you make a book i do at romford its called  BETFAIR

.Cop for that!!


POSITION

DOG

SP

SEC

TIME

DIST

TRAINER

 
1st Jet Stream Jack 2/1F 4.09 28.49  K Hutton
 
bk D Kinloch Brae-Gogetemlaura Jul12

very quick away, always led

 
2nd Swift Sandra 9/2 4.28 28.99 6¼ M Wallis
 
bk B Kinloch Brae-Vatican Reba Oct12 (Ssn 23Sep14)

ran on

 
3rd Cleenas Joseph 5/2 4.24 29.05 ¾ M Dartnall
 
be D Droopys Scolari-Cleenas Louise Sep12

every chance

 
4th Butterbridge Kia 7/1 4.21 29.11 ¾ P Dolby
 
bk B Droopys Scolari-Kranky Rosaleen Sep12 (SsnSup)

baulked third

 
5th Ninja Assassin 6/1 4.34 29.19 1 B Hall
 
be D Timor Blue-Lemon Blossom Apr12

very slow away, bumped fourth

 
6th Farloe Calamity 7/1 4.37 29.37 2¼ C Allsopp
 
bkw B Tyrur Lee-Farloe Reserve Jun11

every chance

 
7th Coolavanny Sarah 6/1 4.27 29.41 ½ D Law
 
wbk B Tullymurry Act-Dragon Sal Feb13 (SsnSup)

every chance

 
8th Curragh Jessie 9/2 4.32 29.44 nk C Allsopp
 
bk B College Causeway-Minnies Budgie Oct11

very slow away, bumped fourth

 

Total SP 151.84% Forecast (Traps 4 x 5) £

I sent in an e-mail to RPGTV about this and it has been completely ignored, quelle suprise.

151 pmsfl are they have a fkin larf

lets get home im a punter not a bookmaker you would not get me there with them bookmakers there chris page must have put a lot of effort in picking them

Nanny like I said, my bro is in Bedford and I have got pals in Northampton so I was thinking it would be a good place to meet up for a few jars and a bit of dinner whilst having a few bets. Not a chance in hell will I ever set foot in Towcester dog track after this opening night performance, not a hope. The PR gaff of all time.

Slippy Trust me if you come to the Hamptons i will buy you a beer & tell you what's what .... i do agree what you are saying & if they carry on like that it will be shut in 12 - 18 months ... but first night i can understand where they are coming from

Guess who?

Total SP 150.56%

Flowers And Coulton Bookmakers Sprint

Milton Keynes, Coventry & now Towcester!!

barry johnson will not change going back to my horse days he did not have a fcking clue what day it was hes lucky for betfair because he would bet to 160 without it

Peered off is he that ex trainer that was on RPTV a few weeks ago that could not stop talking

what did i say get proper dog bookies there  who bet to opinion not machines
get the Gov and the butcher there you will soon see the difference ask Henlow

you would have thought first night the bookies would have been told to put on a show,
having spent over 1.5 million on this project,when we used to bet at bags meetings
we were told what % to bet to,perhaps the bookies cant work it out.also with only 4
books betting straight it is ridiculous to let one man have 50% of the pitches are
you telling me there were no more applications?something does not ring true here.who represented
barry Johnson on his other pitch,and where does BG racing come from?

the whole thing doesn't add up
less than 40 miles away is Coventry
no bigger conurbation than that area
greyhound track failed  (twice)
never mind middle of nowhere and Milton Keynes
40 miles away in the other direction
Henlow ....
cant fill 6 dog races currently
never mind 8 dog races

something is afoot, money laundering ?

coventry track is out in the sticks

more potential within 10 miles than towcester surely

Brandon (Coventry) is about a mile off the outer ring road.  Dead easy to get to.

wasnot not your game greyhound racing ? was you interested in a pitch because you are a very fair bookmaker at the horses who knows what he is doing

lets hope things improve on the betting front this weekend lads

We'll all be standing 3 foot from the boards for the opening shows,KNOCK OVER!

We did the dogs for about 35 years Dr Atkins.  When Leicester and Coventry closed we went heavily into horse racing rather than another dog track (we tried Nottingham very briefly).  Not done the dogs since the late 80s.  Didn't fancy Towcester in the winter evenings - its blinking cold enough during the day.

Youre not wrong wasnot,i always thought swindon dogs was the coldest track id ever been too,i was wrong!

We could do Leicester dogs in 20 mins with a clear run.  Some winter nights the fog was so thick it used to take us an hour and a half.  One night we had the windows rolled down trying to see the kerb as we were going along as you couldn't see the end of your bonnet.  We dont seem to get those fogs anymore.

Dec 12, 2014 -- 5:40PM, patrick starr wrote:

Youre not wrong wasnot,i always thought swindon dogs was the coldest track id ever been too,i was wrong!

ffs get a grip ya southern softie

cant help it wonders,we spend 10 mths of the year in flip flops and shades down here in gods country,the other 2 we have too wear long sleeve shirts but its not too bad

yorkshire

Be OK tomorrow as on sky so BF with be enuff volume for them to copy and arb on

Though I have noticed last month or do on RPTV meeting if you put a £100 to £200 bet on even the second at the bet price. Would around 75 per of the time I am getting nothing matched

It's like BF seeding the market but the back getting cancelled before anything getting matched

It's getting even hard on here now to have a few hundred quid on

bf dont seed believe it is a scandinavian company

Just returned from Henlow and have received some very disappointing news if it is true, and applying the "does it seem probable" rule, I have to conclude that it is.It all revolves around the award of the BAGS contract and how much power it gives those who hold the purse strings of said contracts Ie the big four bookmakers.Apparently big Gary WIlshire turned up at Towcester first night and was told he could not stand.He has upset the big bookmakers in the past by putting up 33/1 about no-hopers but the big bookmakers don't like this as it obviously inflates forecast dividends in the betting shops.Taking this to its logical conclusion, if Towcester wishes to keep its BAGS contract , no matter what Mr Page says publicly he has to bow down to his paymasters and prostitute himself. Thus the majority of meetings will be held to ransom and the new dawn will not be coming soon. As long as the big bookmaking firms continue to be the financiers of the BAGS contracts nothing will change and I really cannot see how new ideas,new people ,or new tracks can prosper when they are all so dependent on the money from these greedy parasites.

I can believe it as it seems weird to give one bloke two pitches

I appreciate the point about Gary but if he is betting without the favourite he won't have too much impact on the starting price.

Whilst at MK betting without, I believe he also "shared" a book  with Del Burrows who bet straight, and could in that way have affected SPs, but was he actually going to bet without at Towcester - dont know.

think nicky was always going to bet without nicky alright

Dec 12, 2014 -- 11:57PM, RothmanMike wrote:

Just returned from Henlow and have received some very disappointing news if it is true, and applying the "does it seem probable" rule, I have to conclude that it is.It all revolves around the award of the BAGS contract and how much power it gives those who hold the purse strings of said contracts Ie the big four bookmakers.Apparently big Gary WIlshire turned up at Towcester first night and was told he could not stand.He has upset the big bookmakers in the past by putting up 33/1 about no-hopers but the big bookmakers don't like this as it obviously inflates forecast dividends in the betting shops.Taking this to its logical conclusion, if Towcester wishes to keep its BAGS contract , no matter what Mr Page says publicly he has to bow down to his paymasters and prostitute himself. Thus the majority of meetings will be held to ransom and the new dawn will not be coming soon. As long as the big bookmaking firms continue to be the financiers of the BAGS contracts nothing will change and I really cannot see how new ideas,new people ,or new tracks can prosper when they are all so dependent on the money from these greedy parasites.

why wouldn't that be true ?  all rings true imvho

big gary was involved in forecast betting stings at oxford alledgedly.

LOOKING AT % FOR THE OPENS LAST NIGHT THEY WHERE OK
CANT BLAME THEM OTHER WEEK 4000 PUNTERS