St Leger...Wbn

how fast has Wimbledon been running??

Racenight Jenny 28.33 and 28.45 trials over 480m bloody heck when did she become capable of that over 4 bends and that's after having a litter and all

that's some heat Blackhouse Heidi is drawn in, where is she likely to turn with Chicago on her inside, Rearguard Bond and Farley Rio on her outside and Droopys Bear in there as well

Airmount Paco on the other hand has a much easier heat and looks to have little to clear on his inside to go around in front

1st 3 with Heidi all you want
It's a good heat I think it's case of them worrying about her IMO !

Ballymac Bonnie is too big for me @ 20s, still a pup this bitch could be anything over 6 bends and has already shown a really good level of form over a trip.

She has come from off the back to beat Sidarian Lisa over 750y at Shelbourne, Sidarian Lisa goes into the 750y final at Shelbourne this week with an absolutely massive chance, she then on Derby Final night absolutely hacked up over 850y, the most impressive thing this night though was her 18:84 split which showed she is not devoid of early, to put that into perspective on the night Geelo Vegas won the sprint in 18:59 and Bonnie went quicker than everything else in that sprint, she then went for the Droopys Stud 730 around Waterford and was massively impressive in both heat and semi coming from off the pace and picking up Woodbrook Golden and then demolishing Sparta Katy from off the pace before getting trouble in the final.

The obvious problem is that she has not been around Wimbledon but if you look at the make up of the comp there are only 19 unseeded runners out of the 48 entered which is pretty unusual in this day and age and quite a few of those unseeded i would not give a prayer too.


The other one i like at the prices is Chicago @ 25s. He has proved he gets a good 6 bends at Hove over 695m and he showed he runs Wimbledon well in last years Puppy Derby (why did i bring that up again!!).

The long run to the corner should be right up his street and i can see him going well clear in his races here if going around the bend in front, he looks to be finding form since leaving Romford which patently did not suit and looks overpriced.

cannot have blackhouse heidi at all

for a strong bitch she is not great at picking her way through dogs...I'm not surprised she ran a big figure on the skin but she doesn't have the early to lead leger dogs

Think 14/1 Romantic Rambo has been the forgotten dog, although only beaten 2 lengths by 8/1 fav Millwards Teddy in the Yorkshire Leger. He runs the track well, did the clock and if coming away as he sometimes can, will take all the beating. Know I've mentioned a few but only small stakes at the large-priced ones, each-way too for a bit of insurance

backed KK again on here @14.
Hopefully will go well in the
comp.

Apart from respect for Millwards Teddy, gone against top end of market coz not sure about Touch Tackle/Roxholme Dream, King Kane over-rated, don't know much about Ballymac Bonnie (but would have to be very good), Airmount Paco will surely struggle to get home over this trip, Bubbly Gold unreliable and Chicago big hike in class proper six bends, then the ones i'm interested in:

2pts  Barefoot Agent, gets 42pts
1pt   Jet Stream Duke, 34pts
1pt   Billys Bullet, 34pts
0.5pt Blackhouse Heidi, 30pts
2pts  Romantic Rambo, 30pts
0.5pt Killieford Khali, 30pts

Into it for 7 pts so far and just to prove, you can pick lots of dogs and still come out well on top, as with the Derby

PS The Leger suits strong stayers better than your speedier types

Good luck!

What types where kinda easy
Bubbly totti

Droopys Bradley !!!!!


How does Heidi get you 30 50p bet 40/1!

Your already  point or two down on sugar ray !!!

Backed Sugar Ray to win £50 at 25/1 but doesn't go, running in the final at Shelbourne Saturday, unlike Barefoot Agent who hopefully side-stepped that event to come here and not through injury, coz got him at 20/1 now

Others, 33/1 Billys Bullet and Jet Stream Duke, 40/1 Blackhouse Heidi and 66/1 Droopys Dave.

So basically, giving the top 12 in the betting a miss but respect Millwards Teddy


this is what you said as for Rambo he's in first 4 betting!

**** I'm becoming Irish one !!!!

Nothing like Fatty. Lost 2quid Sugar Ray, yes. Added Rambo after I said about avoiding top end, at 20/1. Still fear Teddy and plenty of room and time for a saver yet

Again surly you have back Billy's bullet cos it tackle litter brother!
Your calling that overrated ! Below !
I might play Billy's myself but can't understand why your call tackle overrated
It's only had 3 runs over the trip won them all
And billy could be anythink but is on catch up to his bro!

Said Kane over-rated. Think Tackle may still have it to prove top bracket and only 8/1, Billys 33/1. Been nibbling Heidi 40s, 50s and 59/1 on here.

Totti tremendous pace but rarely led til the third bend, Bradley was all-round firepower

Is that all your questions answered?

26/10/2010    687m    1    16.06    1st    4 3/4    Bower Hawk    Wimbledon    EP,Rls,LedRnUp    41.48    N    1/2F    OR    41.48    View Race    View Meeting
19/10/2010    687m    2    16.25    1st    4    Blonde Blitz    Wimbledon    EP,Rls,Led3,(TkRec)    41.89    N    2/1F    OR    41.89    View Race    View Meeting
15/10/2010    687m    2    16.28    2nd    SH    Baran Pimlico    Wimbledon    EP,Rls,Led1ToNrLn    42.01    N    7/4    OR    42.02    View Race    View Meeting
09/10/2010    687m    1    16.27    1st    1 1/2    Lottes Girl    Wimbledon    EP,Rls,LedRnUp    42.30    N    1/1F    OR    42.30    View Race    View Meeting

I'd say he was ep over six bends myself

woody, can you point out for me which bet on blackhouse heidi is yours? ta

Betting on: Blackhouse Heidi
Total matched on this event:  £861
Betting summary - Volume:  £0 
Last price matched:  0.00

Traded and Available
Price To back To lay Traded
55.00 £10     
60.00 £13

Only nibbling it's not hook yet !!!!

14/1 Rambo. Thought I'd got it straight and knew what I was doing but you two are confusing me now!

Having seen Totti in win the Yorkshire St Leger too, maintaining it was pace not really early pace won most of his races

Neither Wonders. Was saying nibbled 40/1 and 50/1, with Hills and Power respectively, just saying 60 on here. Dealing with coppers, still wins £35 to my calculations when adding up the pennies. It'll all come out in the washing anyway

Nothing like Fatty. Lost 2quid Sugar Ray, yes. Added Rambo after I said about avoiding top end, at 20/1. Still fear Teddy and plenty of room and time for a saver yet

Back on Rambo at 14/1 now !!!

You tell pork pies !!

Rambo was never 20/1 as you know. With having to explain myself, like I said youre confusing me. Must have been thinking 20/1 Agent.

So, okay 9pts staked with the 2pts Sugar Ray lost, but the winning are right now aren't they?

Don't tell lies, just must be getting old

Yeah, Bradley had early pace but stayed well too. Dogs can get caught from time to time but like I said, all-round firepower and could have gone on to much more if not struck down

2012 Blonde Reagan
2007 Spiridon Louis
2005 Greenacre Lin
2003 Shelbourne Star
Staying types?

woodmanchester  • October 22, 2014 1:11 PM BST  "Don't tell lies"


Well there's one straight away

When im having a bad run and losing I say so. Try to be honest and youre open to ridicule

Surprisingly, nothing from Billies but seen some 365 heat betting, interesting. Could be some good lays at those prices

well come on and help us out then?

Early days yet. Like I said, seeing more lay than back. When all priced up, might post my preview. But sorry PF, don't fancy your Chicago at the odds

sorry? that has me ecstatic what price you make him then?

he ain't mine anyway and is nowhere near as big a winer for me as Bonnie

Yeah, I know. I'd be laying Bonnie too at 15/8

don't know much about Ballymac Bonnie (but would have to be very good)

that's what ya posted about her Woody, how do you deduce she is a poor price @ 15/8 then?

The opposition

as it is i would not be punting her @ 15/8 first time up at Wimbledon with no look but i have no doubt she is the best dog in the race

Time will tell but know Jenny smart and if Hills do a match with Bonnie would prefer the former, just to begin with. Then, think Jet Stream Duke could be more prominent early over this trip and could do very well. Has some excellent form without winning and given clears, could be a tough nut to crack. Even outsider Lowgate Topaz capable on occasions

Basically, wont be backing Fear Emoski, Touch Tackle, King Kane (especially) at the 365 odds

WHY PUNT AT 120

WHEN YOU CAN HAVE 105 110 IN MORNING WOODY
HOLD YOUR HORSES

you prefer Jenny as you've got an erection of those 2 480m trials i would say

have a look at her form over here and look at Bonnie's, she has since had a litter and now seems to have turned into an absolute tool, i would love to know how fast Wimbledon was running then

Trials look good on paper, but always thought her good over there. Doubt there's too much between them in reality

you have said you know very little about Bonnie ffs how can you say there is little between them then? they could be miles apart either way, stop bluffing

good luck if you play, i will happily take 3rd for Bonnie tomorrow and am sure Liam would too

Seen Bonnie's form but unlike Jenny, cant recall watching her on video

Good luck!

surprised Billies ain't gone up first like they do on the Derby

said they're showing this in SPK tomorrow, better be RPGTV they're showing and then Limerick and our Leger on the intertrack

Just checked. Did see Bonnie beat Sidarian Lisa 1.5 lengths Irish Derby quarter finals night but got behind, as she usually does and came through late. Don't think that's good enough to win an English Leger

Why don't you watch her run Derby Final night and her sectional and compare it to the sprinters run you love that won on the same night, she ain't devoid of early at all

The race I saw her and all comments other form says slowly away, apart from that one night but as you know, I didn't make it. Obviously, match for virtually anything if pinging but wasn't that longer trip and odds stacked against her repeating?

All very interesting but family gathering now. Should be back for good races at Romford later

Bloody heck Woody, reading the IGB comments is like reading the fkin beano, watch the race on the site

Bonnie at 20's was f#ckin huge! If this one is close to anything at halfway, watch out. Shes a proper tool.

Great deal of interest antepost. Think the exchanges under-rated Millwards Teddy at 10.5, so available mi sen of it this morning. Other main hopes Barefoot Agent, Jet Stream Duke and Romantic Rambo

Done an ambitious Yankee. 11/10 Roxholme Dream (won well 6-bend debut, plenty of potential and ought to follow up), 9/4 Barefoot Agent (enough speed to go well in Irish Derby and stays, do for me), Evs Millwards Teddy (matured into a fine stayer and a more than possible outright winner), 3/1 Jet Stream Duke (some fine efforts round Romford. Could be anything over this trip. Winning runs could be just round the corner.)
Acca alone currently paying 52.6/1 (BOG)

Other heats, very small pop 5/1 Lowgate Jasper against a couple higher rated in the market. Want Romantic Rambo to do well but tiny interest 14/1 Droopys London, each-way. Everyone seems against Blackhouse Heidi (given no hope at 66/1 outright) and true, remains to be seen if Newcastle form can be converted to Plough Lane, so shilling or two 9/2 Farley Rio could be good here, if best foot forward. Think Airmount Paco will be going nowhere quickly at the business end, so loose change 9/2 Killieford Khali, 3rd in the final last time, pour moi

Good luck!

"Into it for 7 pts so far and just to prove, you can pick lots of dogs and still come out well on top, as with the Derby"

Woody this is another porky isn't it ?

If you go by what you say above you also invested in Sugar Ray and Droopys Dave as well. Its not the fact that you pick lots of dogs to "come out well on top" , even though you have difficulty picking one to come out on top, its the fact you lie through your teeth day after day.

FEAR EMOSKI 3/1

Thought this was a winnable race
Got a great chance to get on the benny
+ 365 being 7/4 bit of a clue !


Antepost played 3 bullet 33s tackle12s Heidi 50s

Thought emoski turned very handy but think her age catching up on her should of won that from where she turned
thought Heidi was grim that would get irish race comment of never showed !
Paco seemed lost ! Both go back run Newcastle like champs next time !
Think you saw that king dog lacks the six bend pace could not get near dream at all !
think the brothers lack early pace bullet got helping hand in his heat stayed well just got no early speed
Nor did tackle found him self world of **** but stayed on well !
Chicken did his normal fly into bend put the breaks on !
Thought Chicago run well

1 Droopys Flash
2 Borna Champ
3 Chicago
4 Racenight Jenny (m)
5 Killieford Khali (w)
6 Fizzypop Magic (w)

Second:

1 Fear Emoski
2 Touch Tackle
3 Wiki Waki Woo
4 Hather George (m)
5 Worsboro Phantom (w)
6 Farley Chicken (w)

Third:

1 Black Francis
2 Billys Bullet
3 Droopys Bear (m)
4 Romantic Rambo (m)
5 Millwards Teddy (w)
6 Beatties Wild (w)

Fourth:

1 Festival Time
2 Teejayspowerhawk
3 Roxholme Dream (m)
4 Farley Rio (m)
5 Jet Stream Duke (w)
6 King Kane (w)

Once Jet Stream Duke led, thought he might have stretched them more than that. Very difficult task outright. Wouldn't really swop Romantic Rambo and Millwards Teddy ought to improve but not happy theyre drawn together next round, Billys Bullet too! Looks a top competition to me with some fine staying prospects coming through

You need a really strong stayer , the pick up factor is crucial with four runs in four weeks, Borna Champ did as well as any last night, these dogs are gonna be fecked at the end of this competition, don't think we will see three more dry nights like last night but hope I am wrong for their sakes.

nice to see Ballymac Bonnie refuse to race for about 650m last night bloody heck looked like a horse on it's 3rd run looking for a good handicap mark

Lol

in fairness they didn't have the time for a trial i was told as it was a late decision to go for it but it showed

What did you make agent of pf
I know it hit slightly hit dani but **** me it fade like it been shot??

he must have gone wrong down the back, was too early for him to go backwards like that

Sorry me typing like a bad speaking Russian again !

Agree thought the way he moved to take it up was going hack up
Shame that !

What is it with Farley chicken?
The dog got the speed, as a brain
Why it keep stopping into the bends!
Can't be lame. went to bend
Than stopped I thought at first it was the thing that got taken out by one dog
First into the bend last coming out it? Crazy dog
It last 3 runs the same ! It can win races so what is it !

Totally unreliable

Going Majorca for my birthday so will miss the next round. Also miss Limerick. Dare say will get a bet on there before I go but Wimbo-wise, hoping Millwards Teddy, Romantic Rambo and Billys Bullet qualify. Also Jet Stream Duke but doubt he's the outright winner

Chicken is blind imo

Really. Fancy Chicago  great draw  getting better looks the winner to me gl

its in the head fatty,have said it before,chicken by name,chicken by nature

said this after sunderland, farley chicken is a dog that will have your kecks round your ankles if you keep betting it

Very sad to hear Rambo broke down. Anyone know how he is?

Having backed Roxholme Dream at 4/1 and 9/2, fancy a nice profit, think she'll do the job but got Teddy at 8/1 10.5 and 10/1 also and still at 5.5, gone in again, he's my biggest winner. Had coppers 66/1 Killieford Khali at the start and still 40/1, looking to include him in forecasts and tricasts with main two. Covered the rest for damage limitation

Good luck!

Woody i am sorry to turn into Irishone but i have just read through this thread and the dogs you put up as bets where as follows:

Tyrur Sugar Ray (you said you'd bet and he didn't make it)
Barefoot Agent
Jet Stream Duke
Billys Bullet
Blackhouse Heidi
Romantic Rambo
Killieford Khali
Millwards Teddy @ 10.5
Droopys Dave


you never mentioned on this thread about taking the 4/1 and 9/2 Roxholme Dream or even the 10s and 8s Millwards Teddy but i will take your word for it

Now you have also bet:

Chicago
King Kane
Farley Chicken

The comp was only 48 runners and you're up to 12 dogs now


some of your quotes on this thread:

So basically, giving the top 12 in the betting a miss but respect Millwards Teddy.

Apart from respect for Millwards Teddy, gone against top end of market coz not sure about Touch Tackle/Roxholme Dream, King Kane over-rated, don't know much about Ballymac Bonnie (but would have to be very good), Airmount Paco will surely struggle to get home over this trip, Bubbly Gold unreliable and Chicago big hike in class proper six bends

Said Kane over-rated

Going Majorca for my birthday so will miss next round. Also miss Limerick. Dare say will get a bet on there before i go but Wimbo-wise, hoping Millwards Teddy, Romantic Rambo and Billys Bullet qualify. Also Jet Stream Duke but doubt he's the outright winner


Now i said i would take your word for backing Roxholme Dream @ 9/2 and 4/1 but if you ask me it is damn right rude only telling your legion of followers about her at those prices when she is now a best priced 11/8

And if she is turning a nice profit you must be a bloody magician, David Copperfield would struggle to turn a good profit on this with a 9/2 shot after the above.


You say people have a go at you but you are not helping yourself, adding in bets you say you've had (that you never mentioned previously) when dogs become short priced favourites as semi final / final stages and constantly aftertiming (no idea how many winners you aftertimed last night between the Crayford Hurdle thread and the Leger thread)

I can post all bets with stakes. Duke for example was 39p, 20p and 59p to win £35, Heidi coppers also to win £35. Lost £2 Rambo and just over £1 to win £25 on Bullet. £2 Agent crashed. You can count £2 Sugar Ray and Dave was only 8p ew at 66/1!

Teddy wins £60
Roxholme £50
Khali £30

As said, liking the 4/1 antepost Roxholme Dream now, having already nibbled at 9/2

it was on another thread, i apologise but took your word for it so looked for the post made before the semi finals

No worries. Will be very large win if Roxholme beats Teddy and Khali 3rd again, tricast

PF, this is why yorkshiremen like myself tread carefully when it comes to those west of huddersfield

woodmanchester  • October 22, 2014 10:37 AM BST 
Apart from respect for Millwards Teddy, gone against top end of market coz not sure about Touch Tackle/Roxholme Dream, King Kane over-rated, don't know much about Ballymac Bonnie (but would have to be very good), Airmount Paco will surely struggle to get home over this trip, Bubbly Gold unreliable and Chicago big hike in class proper six bends, then the ones i'm interested in:
2pts  Barefoot Agent, gets 42pts
1pt   Jet Stream Duke, 34pts
1pt   Billys Bullet, 34pts
0.5pt Blackhouse Heidi, 30pts
2pts  Romantic Rambo, 30pts
0.5pt Killieford Khali, 30pts
Into it for 7 pts so far and just to prove, you can pick lots of dogs and still come out well on top, as with the Derby
PS The Leger suits strong stayers better than your speedier types
Good luck!

1 big fat porky after another

roxholme dream 11/8 dismissed
millwards teddy 7/2 fair play you put that 1 up amongst your many bets
chicago 4/1 dismissed
king kane 9/2 dismissed
farley chicken 20/1 correctly dismissed
killieford khali 40/1 some e/w value obtained

honestly woody we're not interested in this "I'm in a winning position" bowlarks
we all know you're not, this thread does not lie, unlike you

Didnt you read my 8.30am post, Wonders? Initially avoided top end but when things warmed up, bigger bets those

Actually into it 9pts counting Sugar Ray, but got over 5pts going Teddy averaging about 10/1 and about 7pts going Roxholme 9/2, plus 2pts free bet on her

To my calculations that's 21pts, totalling a return of about 50, is it not?

Actually had 2 more pts Teddy at 5.5 and been topping up 40/1 Khali with coppers coz original bet wasn't as much as 0.5pts as you said

As I said:
Teddy £60
Roxholme £50
Khali £30

Where is 1 big fat porky after another?

As you can see unless youre blind, the winning position isn't "bowlarks"

Can you see clearly now or are you still blinkered trying to make me out as a liar?

As woody only bets in buttons I can not see why he would have the need to lie

So I believe him probably the only one on here who does though

Ravage, had £15 on that 10/1 hurdle winner last night

Mate texted me. He's found a flight and hotel to the Algarve for £79!

+£87 on the year start of this month. £82 staked so far this month, £166 returns. Reckon that puts me +£171 up on the year

£79 for a flight and hotel - i ain't being a snob here but ffs what is it?? The Wright Brothers plane and a Crackden for accommodation??

£85 Tenerife, Lanzarote, Benidorm or Costa Del Sol. You just gotta know where to look

I had a few 15 quids on but only got 37.50 for each one

Cyprus, Malta, Fuerteventura same price

Some half-board. Takes some doing to filter out the decent hotels but I try for sea-view and half-board. No suitcase. Hand luggage only. Sometimes 3, 4 or 5 nights. That's what keeps the price down, along with fly Manchester or Liverpool

Same price Gran Canaria bungalow. PF, just searched flying from Dublin. Dozens and dozens at £85 Nov and Dec, many rated 4-star

www.holidaydiscountcentre.co.uk

£79 for a flight and hotel - i ain't being a snob here but ffs what is it?? The Wright Brothers plane and a Crackden for accommodation??

all these coppers then you start a thread about the Kent champion hurdle at crayford but fail to mention you've had what would be for you a monster bet of £15 on a 10/1 shot that's a palpable returns 5/2 and then to top it all off on the Newcastle thread you copy someone else's bet then come out with a classic on 1 of the races did 6 get up for 3rd for my tricast on the nod pure comedy gold IMO

tbh you're copper jar must be facking  huge the amount you throw about on virtually anything that moves tbh I'd cash it in there must be thousands in there

Edging and supplementing bets Patrick. Just playing around with loose change. Did say I had a cunning plan about the £15 job. Didn't say what coz didn't want the alarm bells ringing and not get paid out. That was serious for me

I mean Panda

P
woody you're in dreamland if you think anyone is falling for that utter bowlarks
just seen that thread last night as well, more dreamland aftertiming bowlarks

I cant believe what he did .... 15 quid on a 10/1 palp aftertimed ... lying idiotic aftertimer

Didn't aftertime Blackjack Bullet and Hadrians Wall was obvious really, imo

So, what did I actually aftertime. A coppers tricast? You can lose hundreds at a time if you like but I don't. 3 losing bets last night but makes no impression on the money I won previous night, palp or not. 888 have paid out on them before, like James so I was quite hopeful

Try walking in my shoes for a month. Sure it would be an eye-opener for you

Or, failing that, come round for coffee and you can see all my bets struck profit/loss in black and white

woodmanchester  • November 9, 2014 8:30 AM GMT 


I can post all bets with stakes.


He has me blocked .... so can someone ask why he has chosen NOT to do this ?

on the other hand I can answer that myself ..... he's lied through his teeth....

woodmanchester • October 22, 2014 10:37 AM BST 0.5pt Killieford Khali, 30pts
woodmanchester • November 9, 2014 7:41 AM GMT Had coppers 66/1 Killieford Khali at the start
woodmanchester • November 9, 2014 8:30 AM GMT Khali wins £30

eeeerrrrmmmmm ? what about  all the other stakes he put on ?

no-one cares,or at least they shouldnt imvho.

yeah I must admit , I wouldn't , if it wasn't for the fact every time you come on here its rammed down your throat , when you block him you end up winding down most  threads looking for the decent comments and views , pain in the arris imvho

everyone has the right to post on this forum but every day morning, noon and night its being cluttered with his sh1te, he's relentless

harsh on irish imo

that's better P S .... more like you