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felidar
28 Aug 13 18:26
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I don't know much about greyhounds, but I'm trying to learn, and I can't find anywhere explaining what the race grades mean exactly?  I've got the basics I think:  OR = Open Race (any dogs can enter??, but basically attracts the best dogs??), A-number = "normal" graded races, HC = handicap (dogs start at different places).

But what about all the others?  S, B, P etc.

Can anyone recommend a guide to what they all mean and how you should approach betting on the different types?
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Report noitsnotme • August 28, 2013 6:43 PM BST
"s" races are 6 bend races, "p" are puppy only races and "b" are generally 4 bend races that are of a shorter distance than the normal "a" 4 bend races,hope this helps
Report irishone • August 28, 2013 7:36 PM BST
ffs mate this is a betting forum, if you want to learn about greyhounds try google, you are getting the two mixed up
Report irishone • August 28, 2013 7:36 PM BST
plenty of rust about in that new studio
Report Zach_Thomas54 • August 28, 2013 11:29 PM BST
Why be an @rse about it Irish... Yes you can study on the internet, but it's always better in my opinion to ask someone. We all have to start somewhere.
Report nb1 • August 29, 2013 12:19 AM BST
Also the numbers after the letters   ie A1 denote the class of race    in England  A1 is top grade and about  A11 bottom grade as a general rule in my opinion the best way to bet is only back dogs u have seen run and for a start concentrate on one track and get to know the dogs as graded runners tend to run once a week and most r very consistent given a clear run    most tracks early pace is a big bonus    where is ur local track ?
Report irishone • August 29, 2013 7:56 AM BST
Zach .... 
he came on here two years ago asking how does betfair decide which greyhound markets to cover ? Not seen since and did not thank anyone for information received then, not posted since.

anyone can get info on http://www.igb.ie/upload/Grading/NationalGradingSystemRules.pdf   as easy as shelling peas
Report felidar • August 29, 2013 6:23 PM BST
Sorry irishone - you are right that was rude of me not to thank people - how do I find my old posts?  I was trying to find that, but can't figure out how you see what you posted ages ago?

Anyway, the link you sent seems to refer to Irish racing, and only talks about the A grades, which I was sort of ok with.  It was the other letters that were confusing me.  Its very hard to google effectively for letters like this, and searching for grades etc only seems to throw up the common ones (although I'll concede after asking that I did find somewhere explaining P = Puppy).

Thanks noitsnotme for your explanation, I couldn't find "b" anywhere.  Betfair has also had races labelled D - any idea what that is?

nb1, thanks for the tips - so you suggest there is a big advantage being at the stadium as opposed to seeing it on TV?  I must admit the only times I've been at the stadium I've treated things just as a night out, so probably not paid as much attention as I should.
Report bannahan • August 30, 2013 1:17 AM BST
Irish keeping the gates firmly shut to what he deems "his manor"....

Ever worked in PR Irish?
Report irishone • August 30, 2013 7:30 AM BST
yes with phil mickelson funnily enough Laugh
Report irishone • August 30, 2013 8:05 AM BST
OR An open race for any grade of dog, usually the best greyhounds
A (1-12) Graded race for dogs of similar ability. Appears as A1, A2, etc.
P Puppy races for dogs of between 15 and 24 months old
HCP Handicap race where dogs get a distance handicap starting from different positions
H Hurdle race where dogs jump at least three hurdles 
S (1-6) Six bend race. Appears as S1, S2, etc
D Dash, sprint race
IR by Invitation Race

dunno what "B" means ... but it aint Bannahan Laugh
Report felidar • August 30, 2013 10:51 AM BST
Thanks! I'm guessing the numbers for S and D don't match up with the numbers for A. The 11:42 d1 at hove only has two dog with A races in it's form, and these were 6-7 and 3. Surely the dog that has run A3 very much outclasses the A6 one? (It's seems quicker looking at times too).
Report felidar • August 30, 2013 10:55 AM BST
Also is T a training race? I'm seeing it in the form, but never seen it for betting?
Report Fenway • August 30, 2013 11:38 AM BST
T is a trial, which helps to grade the dogs initially or after they have been injured or off the track for some reason.

The dog with A3 form is quicker over a standard four bend trip, but perhaps the dog that is only A6 class over four bends is one with early pace, but does not stay the full distance. This dog might be of a similar standard to the A3 dog in a sprint race. At least the grader will be hoping so, and presumably has some reason to grade them in the same sprint race. Of course, the fun, and the difficulty, is in working these things out before the dogs run!
Report bannahan • August 30, 2013 3:40 PM BST
Well done for finally assisting Irish, a little nudge was all it tookWink
Report irishone • August 30, 2013 8:07 PM BST
take your expertise back to the golf forum Laugh
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