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irishone
26 Feb 13 08:28
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IRISH DERBY WINNER INVITED TO AUSSIE TOP GUN
The Melbourne Greyhound Racing Association has issued an invitation to the winner of the 2013 Irish Derby to contest the $150,000 to the winner Top Gun to be run a The Meadows in late October.

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By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 26 Feb 13 08:39
Who is going to take up the offer anyway?

Don't you have to have certain innoculations [rabies jabs etc...] early so you'd have to get them soon, they race behind an inside hare so you'd have to be schooled behind that before you run in the Irish Derby i'd imagine.

The Irish Derby Final is Sept 14th so that gives winning connections 4-5 weeks to get down to Australia and to prepare for the race. Not sure what the quarantine rules are at the moment but i think i heard there could be changes getting made to them.

Anyway to me it doesn't seem viable.
By:
irishone
When: 26 Feb 13 08:44
Exactly P F ... whereas the English Derby winner could get there
By:
bannahan
When: 26 Feb 13 08:44
Would be lovely to kick there asses though wouldn't it Laugh
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 26 Feb 13 08:53
It would make more sense offering it to the English Derby winner in my opinion [Convicts and Poms ain't best friends though are they], as you say it's more viable for them than the Irish Derby winner
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 26 Feb 13 10:06
Be lot easily for them to come over surly mount zonks they race for !
they do have travel 3000 miles to each race!
Ireland the home in hound racing Irish derby ain't got go nowhere other than local pub!
any way go what trainers say every week can't fill there tanks up
Let lone pack there swim trunks
By:
hillcrest
When: 26 Feb 13 10:15
fattie repeat that in english please
By:
lanza
When: 26 Feb 13 10:28
I hope they let pj trial early so he can get the boat home in time?? Laugh

Maybe dolores will already be out there?? Laugh
By:
Truthful
When: 26 Feb 13 10:36
The MGRA's offer would most likely be expenses paid as well.
Sandown Greyhound Racing Club invited dogs from the UK about ten years ago with a guaranteed start in the final of the Melbourne Cup. The winner of last years cup received 350,000au and placing and unplaced runners got substantial stake money as well.
Supposedly top greyhounds were sent over to contest the cup and previous to the running it was common knowledge that they would fill the last two positions which they did. After numerous complaints from locals who were deprived the chance to run in this event, the following year some top dogs were sent over and could not even win a race yet qualify. There was gossip after that only mediocre dogs were sent over hence the program was scrapped.
I'm sure that if a greyhound who won a group 1 event in UK was interested and made their greyhound available any club would bend over back wards with expenses paid to race here. The promotion of an international race would hold a lot of interest world wide and would promote the sport immensely.
Not sure of quarantine regulations but I agree with premier fantasy on running against an inside lure, with 8 runners, and on a very tight track which is renowned for constant trouble and falls on this track, any UK dog would have to be an extra ordinary champion to overcome this obstacle.
But on the positive side the prize money in Australia is unbelievable and their for the taking if any trainer has the desire.
By:
patrick starr
When: 26 Feb 13 11:20
When i was young it wasnt really ever considered much of an obstacle to run a dog to an inside hare saturday and the following saturday run to an outside hare,it was quite normal tbh,obviously some dogs run better to a certain hare but it werent really that much of an issue at all.

Fastest dog i ever seen flapping to the inside hare was Odell Schooner,made one of the greatest irish derby finals ever run.
By:
greytom
When: 26 Feb 13 12:16
Saw Odell run at Bolton won a heat and final Patrick very fast dog
By:
patrick starr
When: 26 Feb 13 12:30
did you really grey? Didnt know he ventured up north tbh,i seen him go unbeaten through welsh derby,3 rounds,did clock every timeHappy
By:
lanza
When: 26 Feb 13 12:52
Sad
By:
woodmanchester
When: 26 Feb 13 21:31
Yeah, even i'm struggling to unscramble that post Fatty.

Patrick, Odell Schooner rings a very distant bell. Didnt know you lads were that old!
By:
patrick starr
When: 27 Feb 13 12:03
lol woody,i was very young! Wink

Odell schooner was trained by Ron Peckover from slough,currently attached to cov i believe.

He was called Drifter at swansea during that derby he won. It was a proper competition back in them days also.Happy

On greyhound data they only have the two races down for him,when he ran up in the sussex cup to a certain HIT THE LID and the MAKE HISTORY/RANDY  Irish derby final,shows the class of dog he was and the kind of dog that was flapping back then.
By:
patrick starr
When: 27 Feb 13 12:11
would loved to have seen drifter take on springwood mickey,they missed each other only by a couple of years. I never seen mickey run live,have seen the vids obviously,i think it'd have been some buckle!
By:
woodmanchester
When: 27 Feb 13 12:41
So, you was knee-high to a grasshopper in Hit The Lid '88 Derby days. We probably have similar recollections then. I was getting serious with greyhound racing Tico '86 Derby days
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