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I'm amazed shawfield is still going
5 dog handicaps the track itself is one of the best But the stadium is a botch job week to week |
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While those in positions of power remain the puppets of organisations with a vested commercial interest in the sport remaining in decline, and foot soldiers like JK continiue to trot out the total nonsense that greyhound racing can't survive without BAGS or autonamously without being under bookmaker control, greyhound racing, at least as we used to know it, is dead in the water, imo...
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the answer is flapping
lower the restrictions to ownership and training and you will grow a whole new generation of interest |
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we're doomed captain, doomed
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whose going to show towcester then rptv?
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Agree with Kay. There will always be dog racing while the high street bookmakers operate BAGS. But in this day and age where cutbacks are of paramount importance, it will still be in decline but very slowly. Flapping isnt the answer to the prosperity of the sport but one day, it could be all that survives.
I love greyhound racing and would be overjoyed if someone, or consortium, could be instrumental in making the above statement tosh. I still see there is potential but nobody seems to be able to tap into it |
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what does the industry have against flapping?
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The integrity of the sport needs to be run under stricter rules that currently employed at flapping tracks, imo.
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woodmachester
on the same theme, are the ownership rules set by GBGB to strict? |
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The key to the future of the sport is ownership of stadiums by dog people. Stop harping on about the good old days when people fell over each other to get a bet on at the tracks. Greyhound Racing is a great night out enjoyed by many...not just punters and gamblers. Continue to modernise its image and seek out ways of attracting people into the tracks. The sport should have combined totally to save Walthamstow at whatever cost to run it as its flagship. Hall Green has great potential...get it out of GRA hands...if I had the money I would. In ten years that will be housing with dog fans still bemoaning the way the sport is going.
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threecard • January 14, 2013 8:12 PM GMT "The key to the future of the sport is ownership of stadiums by dog people."
The vast majority of "dog" people , that us those who actually own, breed or train dogs, are running kennels on a shoe string. There is a massive gap between "dog" care and "stadium" care. Guarentee to you 99% would not know anything about owning stadiums and moreover they would not want anything to do with owning stadiums ! Greyhound Racing is a great night out enjoyed by many...not just punters and gamblers...... I agree 100%.... then put it in the hands of entertainment or gambling companies...... the last people you want running stadiums are "dog" people mate ! ![]() |
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Walthamstow & Hackney were both owned by gambling companies and look what happened to them.
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@irishone...take your point..I probably meant the dog racing community. The game itself owns nothing apart from the lucky few who own their own kennels. I guess any trainer who does would sell up tommorrow if offered over the odds for development. This is all track promoters are doing
as attendances slip and profits are not as they were. Venture capitalists have seen this for years now. There is a certain inevitablity to the GRA this is why I say the community should try and do something now. |
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theres only one way forward open kennal
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xmoneyx, i'll give shawfield 5 years and it will be closed
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![]() lil 27 Apr 09 theres only one way forward open kennal think general custer is trying to , judging by his picture |
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![]() lil 27 Apr 09 theres only one way forward open kennal think general custer is trying to , judging by his picture |
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i think 5 years is very generous
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if billy king lives that long
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All very well whingeing but I doubt many of you out there have attended more than half a dozen tracks in your lives, even when there is a good open card available.
The main reason I went to evert track in the land many times was that there were quality dogs running every night and my particular interest were 8 and 10 bend performers. These have disappeared to be replaced by poor 6 bend dogs trying a new trip. I preferred Henlow and Milton Keynes when they were flappers....great fun trying to identifying connections, then the dog. Bring them back and you get real greyhound folk |
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RothmanMike i can do better than the half doz you state...
W city london (fav) cray ramsgate sittb canter harrin hove henl mk oxf swind ports poole exeter n abb 3 legged x b vue wimb walth romf harlow rye hse hack read swaff mildenhall cat cork hx tralee thurles limerick clonmel we should never of let the bookies get a hold of this great sport. Yes a OPEN kennel would work. Would the pc brigade allow flapping to make a come back? |
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Rothman, whilst this shouldnt become a 'how big is your Dad' thing, most on here will have covered at least 6 tracks, at least 10 times I would think. Used to go 3 or 4 times a week travelling everywhere, leaving work at 5pm and managing to get to the likes of MK, Wimbledon, Oxford, Reading, Posh, as well as the more local ones Rommers, Stow, Rye.
The on-course game died when they offered me shyte facilities for my money along with fellow owners talking utter bshit and trainers having me over. Add that to being impossible to get anywhere in rush hour now.... Obviously get what you are saying but the next generation dont want to know because there is nothing that identifies with them. The sport has to progress as well as people. |
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Spot call yourself a dog man abd you never went to Glastonbury flap? By the way I remember your username running at Pompey in the 80s wonder if you had anything to do with it had a soft spot for it
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SPOT THE DOG
Surely you must have been to Wembley, the best running track of them all? |
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Not even been to Clapton, the dogs running there in the bottom grade were winning opens never mind all it's Derby winners in the 60's.
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exchanges have killed the game
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if there were no exchanges would i be at crayford today......yes i would.......hopefuly with other likemind people making a strong market......would i be getting anything near value or the spectrum of available betting opptions....no
in balance i prefer to be at home on the exchange...... |
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at last deans finally said what I said years ago. The game was thriving until you could lay them at home and ponce about with yer stupid take 3.0 lay at 2.99 rubbish
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shiner yes i do recall spot the dog but i did not own or train it!!!
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ooops
miss.wales yes i did go to wembley i had a 7/1 winner in a IT one sunday afternoon ps. ex N/Abbot derby winner ;) |
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wembley - greenfield madam. oioioioioi
where i first saw some picture - wow |
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DML, yes fantastic, always empty, no atmosphere.eerie ghost walk up Wembley way midweek....I loved it.. Blue Murlen, Some Picture, Larkhill/Staplers Jo, get proper bets on, those were the days
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Donemylot, not being superior here just stating facts and the fact is most so=called followers of the sport have never ventured out of their locality.
For the record have been to all those stated , except the Irish. To complete the list, I add the following RAYLEIGH PARK ROYAL STAMFORD BRIDGE NORTON CANES CRADLEY HEATH BRISTOL HENDON GRETNA GREEN ALDERSHOT (flap) STAINFORTH (Doncaster) NOTTINGHAM YARMOUTH BROUGH PARK (Newcastle) CAMBRIDGE IPSWICH SOUTHEND HINKLEY (Flap) HUNTINGDON (Flap) HACKNEY (Both Sides) PERRY BARR (Old and New) MANCHESTER BELLE VUE MANCHESTER WHITE CITY CRAYFORD (Old and New) HULL WATFORD Everynight for 30 years. So learned a little bit about the game ![]() |
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wimbledon
clapton catford rye house harlow aldershot portsmouth west row bury st edmunds swindon hove yarmouth stamford bridge romford wembley perry barr nottingham hall green oxford tampa st pete daytona lifford longford galway limerick tralee shelbourne mullingar harolds x i'm getting bored now ..... still learning ![]() |
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cambridge ? was that milton road ?
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Loughton
Wanstead Woodford Epping Barnet Southend Westcliff Leigh-on-sea Canvey Sheppey Isle of man Isle of Wight |
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Old Cambridge City ground (not United), saw GLOSS Betty Godwin, and Linda Mullins had loads of winners.
It was a flap on one side then it became NGRC and then moved over other side of pitch - Wed & Fri |
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forgot
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