*** Tyrur McGuigan 575y, Shelbourne Park ***

will wait for woods posts if you dont mind PF, cheers

pmsl

No problem Addy, best to get as much information as possible not sure they will price this up this year

will wait and see what the fav is mate, cover with 2nd in, if they get knocked out i will find something else, cheers

Always a great little stake

Glad i've got a fan in you Addy. No betting, so cant be accused of going for the favourite then, can i? I know what i fancy though and would probably head the market if there was one

You're right Chopper it's usually a great comp, doesn't look as strong this year as previous years maybe but still very competitive.

to be fair in years past, we were spoilt very early in the year

05/01/2013
Owen McKenna’s Tibetan Skies has been installed the 6-1 favourite by Paddy Power for the Tyrur McGuigan 575 which commences at Shelbourne tonight.

In all there are four dogs in single figures with Razldazl Will and Slip The Genie at 7-1 and Shelbourne Geoff at 8-1.

The rest of the prices are: 10 Abbeyville Tipp, Gizmo Classic, Riverside Mary; 14 Barefoot Duke, Kilmeen Bill, Ringtown Snowy, Tyrur Gilmore; 16 Piercestown Buzz, Tyrur Wozniacki; 20 Tyrur Loughery, Moss Lane, Kokoro; 25 Stunning Buddy; 33 Lodgefield Start, Whitegates Champ, Scary Carey; 50 Motorbar Dreamer, Gizmo Buzby, Ballycowen Hero; 100 Coventry Kid.
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no prices on their site, no prices when you ring up, so where are these prices??? i've had about 3 hours sleep and that hasn't improved my already bad mood

to be fair in years past, we were spoilt very early in the year


true, a lot of the top dogs where out very early

First bet:

Moss Lane @ 25/1 e/w (ladbrokes) - Think he is overpriced, compare his price to Slip The Genie who there was not much between in their 2 races over the trip in early December in my opinion. He doesn't trap and lacks pace up to the corner but fairly flies down the back and stays on run in. He has only won 1 out of 24 races which tells it's own story but if he could just turn in a better position there is easily a 31.20 or better run in him and at 25s i'm prepared to take a chance on him.

want to play 1 other is i get get those advertised prices with powers

Before the betting released my two against the field were Abbeyville Tipp and Tibetan Skies. Still think one of these could win this feature.

Tipp has Riverside Mary to beat in the first heat and Tibetan Skies hard to beat with normal luck. The other heat could be between Razldazl Will and Slip the Genie.

Is it four to qualify then two semis, as opposed to two through from each heat?

Earlier on the card, 3 to look out for, imo: Piercestown Liam (better than A1 at best), Swift Marathon (could put race to bed early if at peak) and Kereight King (fast and has fitness edge).

Good luck!

I wouldn't be liking Piercestown Liam's draw, he ran off the bend last time and was on the hare rail around the last 2 bends, it ain't a great race but it would be enough to put me off. The same with Swift Marathon, the draw has to be a worry that far out with buckets of early inside him. Kereight King should win if breaking level, actually i'll go as far as saying he will win if trapping level.

3 from each woody

2nd outright bet:

Stunning Buddy @ 20/1 e/w (ladbrokes) - So much for paddy powers "supposed 25/1" actually supposed prices at all. The dog has a nice touch of early and i think the long run up will be in his favour and while he has to prove he will get this far i am not worried in that regard.

Oh yeah, thanks NGU. Missed the last heat . Dont think the outright winner is there anyway. Still drunk from New Year!

Not played ante-post yet but thought Abbeyville Tipp most unlucky not to qualify.

Tibetan Skies lacks early motivation and needs to do better, but could. Still a shade disappointing after a good break, imo. Take nothing away from Gizmo Classic, big player now.

Slip the Genie, another live contender, put Razldazl Will firmly in his place.

Main two in the final heat have plenty to find on the clock.

Oi Oi 3/1 Piercestown Liam! Draws dont always matter if you get the run of the race.

Same cant be said of Swift Marathon though. Needed to ping from T5 but one of his fast starts just wasnt there and on the deck. Hope he's okay.

Always liked Kilbarry Rover but wasnt sure he would be ready. Not a good break by Kereight King and murdered at the bend. Can do better.

woodie, you're starting to sound like Sven Goran Erikkson....."we did not play well in first half, we needed to do better. In second half the defenders needed to defend, and they did defend. We can do better, we need to do better" but if you're getting Ulrika and Nancy good luck to you

Draws dont always matter if you get the run of the race. spot on Woody don't know why i put the hours in

Race 2 The Tyrur McGuigan Open 575 Semi-Final 09:30 Approx. (575 Yds. Flat)  (Race Grade : AA0)
Trap     Greyhound     * View Complete Race Form
Trap 1     TYRUR LOUGHERY
Trap 2     RIVERSIDE MARY
Trap 3     RAZLDAZL WILL
Trap 4     SLIP THE GENIE
Trap 5     MOSS LANE
Trap 6     GIZMO CLASSIC

Race 3 The Tyrur McGuigan Open 575 Semi-Final 09:45 Approx. (575 Yds. Flat)  (Race Grade : AA0)
Trap     Greyhound     * View Complete Race Form
Trap 1     STUNNING BUDDY
Trap 2     SCARY CAREY
Trap 3     TIBETAN SKIES
Trap 4     KOKORO
Trap 5     RINGTOWN SNOWY
Trap 6     SHELBOURNE GEOFF


Stunning Buddy doesn't stay on that evidence, i got that wrong

Still no bet but think 5/1 Tibetan Skies would be my call. Mentioned him and Abbeyville Tipp at the start and think he's got the weaker semi, imo. Just think he can be nearer the pace at halfway tonight and hard to keep out of a qualifying spot

Semi Final 1 - Tyrur Loughery @ 8/1

I think they have the front 2 in the market the right way around but they're still a bit skinny in my opinion. I don't like Slip The Genie's draw outside of Razldazl Will who will move off on the run up and last week there was nothing between them to the corner and Genie could take a bump or get driven wide. Gizmo Classic looks the better drawn of the big two but then he may not have the early to lead both Will and Genie up, he should have enough to beat Moss Lane to the corner but would not come from behind Genie (same other way) so needs Will to do his job. Riverside Mary in 2 is another who goes up to the corner well but she is another one who will move off as she is more middle on the run up, she needs to lead and even then needs to run better than the last two weeks. This leaves Tyrur Loughery in 1 with a great draw (bar the bogey box). Last week he got bother run up as Stunning Buddy cut right across him hampering him. He showed good enough pace up and to the 3rd i thought and at the price and with the draw i think he has a chance. Hopefully he can come away from the inside box and he should get a solo up, if then one of the outside boxes don't get loose he could build up an advantage over them and it could be enough.


Semi Final 2 - Shelbourne Geoff @ 7/4

I thought he ran a blinder last week, he showed big pace up to the corner, good pace down the back and stayed the trip (just a real strong dog turned 2nd). This week he has got a great draw in 6 with Ringtown Snowy in 5 going to move rails run up. There is some big early in the race in Kokoro who showed great pace up last week but he has to trap better and if he doesn't and Ringtown Snowy does he could turn into him. Stunning Buddy is another with pace to the bend but how will he cope with the 1 box and he didn't appear to stay last week. Anyway once Geoff comes away he will lead the outside and will take some beating from there. Tibetan Skies will be last on the inside to the corner and will need things to fall right for him, if they do he is a danger. Ringtown Snowy has a big run in him, he is also probably a red card waiting to happen. If Geoff turns the corner it will take a good run to beat him and the only ones who can back run him are likely to be last and 2nd last into the bend.

Tyrur Big Mike (LEGEND!!!) at Stud 525 Final - Jimmy Boy @ 9/4

The top moves middle, the 3 and 4 move rails. Murralli Junior in 2 who i'd be all over if he was in 1 will have to come away a lot better this week if he is to get a run early. With 3 and 4 looking inwards it gives Jimmy Boy in 5 a great draw as he should have the beating of Beany Tunes on his outside and can lead around. Last week he didn't trap but flew to the corner, if he traps tonight he leads. If he leads they'll have a job picking him up.



No other races priced up off course, pity it would have been interesting

What is your view on Hillcroft Champ?

He was a little short last week and blew up coming home. Has had a few good gallops since then and should strip fitter and improve his clock. Looks well drawn too.

Kicking mi sen didnt go in for the 5/1 Tibetan. Power rate it a 9/4 chance now. Snooze and you lose. Still, it hasnt won yet

adhmadach tú tiubh **** a mei Féin nach mi sen

Champ wins the final and ran much better this week.

Cramped last week and was treated for it.

Mother going to Razldazl Billy I believe and he has had great success with Larkhill Jo bitches.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG3fuCUXEcI

test

Distant View 19 Jan 13 22:04
"Mother going to Razldazl Billy I believe"

It would have a hard job, I heard a rumour Billy died of lead poisoning !

Glad didnt end up playing Tibetan Skies at all. Thought the T2 dog ran well

Glad didnt end up playing Tibetan Skies at all. Thought the T2 dog ran well


Have you been drinking? The dog is a dirty bloody screw, not chasing a thing FFS, would have hacked up after that start had he got on with it

The winner ran a cracker, showed better pace up then Will which was crucial and took her chance well. Look forward to her going back over 6 bends in the summer.

PF, don't think Snowy would have done any better than the time he posted on Saturday night. First time he has put it in properly for a long time

i disagree, if he put it all in they wouldn't have seen him when leading in my opinion

I'm surprised he has lasted this long racing anyway, total wrong un and got away with a 2nd card in HRX one night

Happy Genie won anyway (even though i wasn't on her), she had been in brilliant form late last year and the start of this year.

Difficult to see on the little screen. Knew it went hammer and tongs with that other dog early but didnt realise it was just for company.

Changing the subject PF, how dya think White Soks Roks and Oneco Cool will handle 770yds over 8 bends at skid-pan Crayford?

It's just my opinion on the race and i'm sure plenty disagree with me, i could be letting my dislike of the dog cloud my judgement but the was i saw it was if Slip The Genie had have done 30.90, 21.20 or 31.50 Snowy would have finished exactly where he was.

I enquired about a price last Monday for White Soks Roks Woody, they took days to put him in their market and naturally put him in a stupid short price. I'd say they are both too short considering they have to settle into a new kennel, new country and prove they run Crayford (i think White Soks Roks did a 4 bend trial there).

Another way of looking at it is that ex Irish runner Lode Vanquish (Saleen Islandtwo) pissed up the other night and the time was decent in comparison with the others on the night, however i wouldn't have him in the same parish as White Soks Roks or Oneco Cool, they're different class to him i'd say.

Cheers. Always liked White Soks but think still swaying towards Reagan at the moment. Odds likely to get better when more price up

Whitesox completely missed the break in the trial and he is scheduled for another two spins around the track, the lads who own him are hopeful

Thanks, if White Soks takes to the track, thinking saver material. Antepost fav Bubbly Swallow is flying but so was Ballyard Buddy before the Leger. Never been too sure about Swallow

Oops, this should be on the Jacket thread

If the race was ran at a proper track i'd fancy him, around that kip god only knows what will happen

At least they are doing it right and giving him every possible chance.

come on pf.......nothing wrong with crayford.........trainers and owners know its constraints and if they bring a dog that is not suited for a race without a trial then it says something more about them than crayford..........horses for courses.......greyhounds for courses....

come on winja.... one tiny drop of rain and you get a bias there.... trainers and owners are forever screaming about the draw there.... track is run by the bookies for the bookies imho

not for the first time irishone........you are talking out of your arse.........

Still value in the Clonmel Unraced lads? Backed Bouncy Castle at 20's :)

http://www.paddypower.com/racing/greyhounds/greyhound-cups/connollys-red-mills-open-unraced-stake

Really like Bouncy Castle and he's getting better every run but Dalton is talking about him for 750y races already, i'd aim him at the Easter Cup after this to see if he can hack it with the big boys over 550y, i think it is worth trying.

Ashford Castle has looked very good, he had plenty of scholling and trials so was more forward than most though i'd say. Just hope he doesn't end up like Droopys Cain from Droopys Laramie's last litter. 

Like Glenanore Dancer too, he stumbled just going into the back last week when about to take it up off the 2nd losing him the race.


none of the prices interest me so happy to watch the semis and see what the final draw brings.

i'm gonna back scullys