Essex Vase, Romford

Looking to back Romeo myself but worrying he ain't had a look !+
25/1 must be long gone can't get a penny on with coral only shops but none near me

Like lenson ginger draw but likewise 5/2. Must be gone too

looking to bet somethink on the wide

why doc,are you not worried about a frosty rails track tonight?( i am and would be interested to hear a locals opinion)

should ad its a risky thing to do at romford when it gets cold we all know it goes rails,need a weather report for the next mth,and since they have done the drainage the surface needs watering a lot so if it gets very cold they cant water

ahhhh i see,you have the same fears as me,cheers doc.

Think i'm just gonna leave the earlies and have a watch for first bit of card...

they were still watering when we got all that rain last week,patrick starr your right i am worried about the going but to be drawn trap 1 575 on a level track is not great these days at romford

if i had a dog in the 575 final would want it drawn 3.4.6 on level going

for sure doc,yesterday seemed fine (just looking at results) but with the temp drop from afternoon to night time i deffo have the going on my mind for tonight.

Just so you know what not to back, front runners may have an advantage and with WM not running particularly well, had one bet on English at 3-1 to smash from 3 and go clear.

there you are. GL

yes it as been a little bias to rails on the night meetings,but drainage is working to well, i would say they would have put water on the track tonight and will put water on the track if not to cold during the meeting aswel if they think the track needs it

Wonder if Mr Wallis can sort out what happened with Fletch run in the final

super hard card tonight imo
g/l players


cant see how they can water track from now on as its bitter cold here
and there was a thick frost this morning so probably the same tonight/tommorrow
morning and they have bags racing am saterday

8.34 ...will lay blonde fletch if anywhere near evens at the off, imo it struggle to clear mountjoy orion early and i fancy diesel malc to lead down the middle and off the 2nd bend
taken the 5/1 with corals and 9/2 laddies

8.50...will be laying smiler jack later, backed parkwest leo at 20/1 (hills)
can see 1 holding up smiler jack at the first and taking a chance on leo to clear all and hold on.

9.24 very trciky race with ding hero and bubbly ebony going for the first bend lead, could be trouble early so i've backed carden twilight at 8/1 to nip round and cause an upset.

best bet of the card is stress force in the 9.56, taken the 7/2
not much early in the race and can see it leading and winning

good luck all, cracking racing tonight.

on mark my words

cant have a bet tonight if its to cold and they aint put the water on today then there will be a going bias i think, so again cant play until i know the going

I've backed English A/P 21.0 on here... Can lead or come from behind, good price for a decent dog!!!

Smiler jack 9/2 win
Droopys English 16/1 e/w

Be lucky

mustapha bath see that pup i bet 1st time up sat run weds and done 23.86 on its 2nd run plus20 i think nice pup

Planning at 5/2 looks a good bet to me from a favourable draw.

Rockview Sail at 5s is too big imo with Maldini out of form and Sail loves it round there even though it got KOd lto.

Like Stress Force at 7/2 aswell.Bit of a cheat at times imo and those types usually excel round a tight circuit like Romford.

3 x singles

3 x double

1 x treble.

Yes mate, Peter's Dog... Great litter, he only had a small bet Saturday (for him) didn't fancy it... Then whoosh...
The prices went nearly as fast as the dog, tremendous prospect...
I'm in the "Rocks" camp though!!!

yes the 7t2 was not there for long,the trail it was in was a very good,this is the best one in the litter we be a good romford dog will do 3.60 to 3.70 splits mullins pup is not a 400m dog

20/1 English good Mustapha, should qualify as Maldini may get behind and dont rate Rockview Sail as highly as in the past

Lovelly start there.Winner in the bag and the outside seems to be running well.

good lcuk with your other 2 bookie

ive laid fletch at 1.9

Good luck GW.Think the inside isnt great tbh but he is a class above if he pings.I had him in at evens because its a 50/50shot whether he traps or not andif he traps he wins imo.1.9 slightly below my tissue but not enough to lay him.

thought it might struggle to clear 1, giving 4 or 5 a chance to go clear

cheers mate

oi oi

oioioioioi welldone GW

thanks bookie

laid smiler jack now, mathced at 1.88 avg

I aint playing in any of the other races.Just waiting on the other 2.

all over at the boxes, if only it slighty missed it

parkwest leo ran a cracker

Maldini is too big now

having a small bet tr6 brinkleys

followed bookie in here, c'mon 5 ping please

wd pf

Oi Oi Oi some dog over that trip around there

cant believe it could'nt win from there, was miles clear

What went wrong.Wheels fell of there.

that run really well,backers hearts in there mouths

gutted for you bookie, looked a cracking bet out of the 2nd bend

Im the same GW.Was oioioi ing off the second bend because it usually doesnt stop and i know Maldini is a good dog but race was won and it obv cramped or went wrong imho.

Oh well can still have a good night and even if last one gets beat not much damage done because i did take the prices and simgle them but thought i had a good lift with a chance of a big lift.Thems the breaks.

played Carden Twilight at big prices, think he was well overpriced

hope your right pf, im already on

gl all, im off to watch the boxing

hopefully stress force pings out in the 9.56

Decided to lay this 1 dog.4 could be a pigeon catcher and 1 could be the pigeon :)

I,ll take that.4 eased at the line again?Strange that.

IMO, some people giving money away with evs Smiler and 13/8 Maldini, they could never have been.

Negatives for Words and Fletch proved correct.

Dont think Patriot will be 25/1 now, either

laid mark my words strong

gave it back betting blonde fletch.

laid small smiler jack

bet westmead maldini when i was clearing 6/6 and kept betting it again the bigger it got. cant believe it won.

bet bubbly ebony, adageo brae and carden twilight, done each other at the bend thought i was on a winner

going to bed been a tiring day trying to get on molly antepost



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Wd Woody hope your having a good night.Im winning no matter what happens in the next on the night but the last one going in would make it a decent night.

clearing 6/4 maldini ffs

Thanks Middleman, just antepost for me on Essex Vase though. Not like the real betters on the exchanges. If so, would have copped large with Smiler and Maldini. Still happy though. Will be even happier if the planes are flying to Dublin tomorrow morning!

Haha almost said im NOT reading yours out lol.I asked what big gazzes take was on bookies limiting or closing accounts of winning punters lol.

wtf knew he was iffy.Not so sure the petrol did run out.Think he started getting lonely imo.

didnt think it would be picked up

shocker bookie

Watched it against Rockview Royal and thought it was waiting but thought rommers would suit it.Most will say it done nowt wrong and tired but i felt it was getting lonely.Not pockettalking because i did mention it before the race and the fact is it should never have got caught there.

Somehow managed to get two 1.01 shots beat tonight lol.

Finnished for tonight.Gl anyone playing on.

not a bad night here but could of been so much better

g/l if your still playing bookie

just seen your last post bookie

u/l tonight, and g/l tommorow

just got in for last three
why does big gal finish every statement wih a question... e.g doesn't it ? isn't it ?
love someone to say well NO gal i dont agree with ye
see the reaction

Not necessarily value at the start but got 9/2 Smiler Jack about a 13/8 chance in the final. Bets like these just havent been winning for me this year though

The prices in the final look wrong to me, and seem to be based on times only rather than the way the race will/may be run.. Well, actually think one of them is very wrong, making another look huge. Lets get on.

How do you see the race unfolding then Donemylot?

I see it unfolding after I've put my bet on! I'm doing a weather-watch too. I just think that x is overrated after certain things 'helped', and anyone with eyes saw that y was this and shouldnt be 'z'.

Tango Tango.Stop. Get the Jerries. Stop.

well the prices are up so hope u get plenty on and gl

I cannot see why Maldini is trading as big as he is. Absolutely do not like Planning and think he is woefully short. He has made his races by an absolute ping and also has been helped by the going. Had miles on Maldini last time out and the runner-up lost an estimated 8 lengths in running after severe grief early. I expect the early moves to come from at least 3 of these, and cannot see Planning as good enough to get far away from them to win. Add Wallis' recent sickness and at sub 2-1 he can't be a bet, win or lose.

Obviously if Jack cracks game over, but it's no cert and I want that at 6-4. EArly around him and the worry I'd have is MO smashing and making it awkward for a few of these. He just kids in front and may hold them up long enough.

I just thought from a draw that should keep him out of trouble, Maldini can certainly tuck himself out of trouble early and easily make up the 3-4 lengths he has to find on recent running. He does all his best in finals and I really cannot see how he isn't around 3-1.

Simply, if anything other than Jack leads off the bend, I'd expect him to pick them up. Can't get enough on at 9-2 so had a bit there and at 4-1. Its just simply far too big for a dog with his CV.

GL

Think there are two good things on the card and they won't be favs either!

Gd luck fattie, I've got three fancies so far............interested to see the prices.

ive got 4 fancies so far

it's a good card imo, could be some value to be had

Just looking at the form for race 8 t6 last race I'm I reading that right last week at henlow -300 wtf

'Tear be no bias at Henlow'

Maximum respect to the reigning champion Donemylot but maybe age a shade against him now?

interesting to read DML thoughts. imo the class of the race is Jack and Maldini, but looking at the race make up with 5 bang railers and plenty of QAw's for all except Maldini, and with Simon out of 5 beating Jack from 3 to bend last time and this time right alongside him outside and heading rails I'm thinking the race may not be dis-similar to Coronation Cup Final in Jan when Rathglass Hero (@16/1) got clear and 4 of them were badly baulked or KO.. Not sure Smiler Jack would have won the Champion Stakes if he'd not been in T1 and Ko'd Be Real in T3, and must be reasonable chance Brave the Times will be up inside Jack at the bend. DML comment re kennel sickness is valid, but Wallis will be focussing on the dog in kennel in £10k final,Planning is improving rapidly out of traps, bend position, sectionals and overall times. I reckon another 35.29 or near would win the final, and you'd think he'd have acres of space outwide, which others will not

Super card, especially like the 10-bender, always a great race and should be. Will be nice to know if PP has actually come right somehow else I think the winner is pretty obvious and likely to be short.

As for the final, Swayne, MW may well get Planning right and whilst I can't argue against his victories, they were with help in my view. The last time (as my Oirish friends say) was particularly obvious and not sure the draw, good as it is, is enough to make him so short. Given dry conditions, that will surely be agin him too. I thought Maldini trapped far better from red a number of times and does tend to get it right in finals. I have a feeling he will be 3rd or 4th off the second corner and with 5 pinging and 4 showing some nice early, hmm who know? All about price really. Perhaps a lay of SJ and Planning will do, no tears if one of them wins and valid reasons for a result

-2/-3 round here tonight. Not getting much above freezing tomorrow but no precipitation at all.

What they going to do to the track? Lets ask our on-site overnight camper Dr Atkins.

Cant remember a time when it was like this and the wides ran anything but below form

very keen on ardkill star
like king launchian
Only two bets
can only see they must of thought save the track for vase night
right thing to do track bias does it only happen when lots of rain gets into the track

couple of firms up now

You can get 6/1 Maldini now Donemylot and wouldnt say its a super card either. Decent enough card though

COME ON SMILER, LET'S AV IT EAR TO EAR!

agree dml , dont know what its going to do come the night , rather keep the money in the abbey 'til then

woody, took 5-1 last night. cant get on with PP so happy enough. probably overbet him a touch but still absolutely make him no better than a 3-1 shot, and I wouldnt lay that

Obviously, i'm in the Smiler camp Donemylot but at his best Maldini would be a huge player, round his fav track and optimum trip. As ive said though, may be a couple of lengths below his all-time peak coz of age. Best dog on the night should win

I like
proper cat 4/1
Pauline's pride 15/2 and 6/1

C'mon smiler do the double. 9/2 Antepost, also got abit on brave the times at 10/1

Be lucky