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15 Nov 12
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Although he's been invincible round the Colwck Park track, i still find it impossible to back Ballymac Eske at 11/8. Farloe Tango has a verdict over him and think Eske will find it harder to pick some of these up as he did Bridge Honcho in the Olympic. Would have had to have been about a 2/1 shot to interest me, but too late now, bets already struck.
Mainly gone for 18.5 and 18.0 Farloe Ironman on here, Betfair. The Derby runner-up clocked 28.16 (only +10 fast), when winning in the semis and judged on his disposal of Bridge Ruth in a calc 29.54 over 515m Hove, a time which isnt too far behind Eske's runs at the seaside track, looks back to his peak. He'll do for me at the prices.
Had to have a go on Mags Gamble, won 7 of his last 8 races and got 10.5 on here. He excelled himself at Newcastle and if converting that form to Nottingham will surely give Eske a harder target than usual to pass.
One last little play, 19.5 Holdem Spy. Bit concerned about his hot opening heat coz he's not the quickest early but possesses tremendous gears and could go all the way, with the rub of the green.
Think Lister could be out of luck on this occasion. Dont really fancy Taylors Sky or Boher Paddy and Farloe Tango may need to gain racing room during qualification.
Good luck!
Mainly gone for 18.5 and 18.0 Farloe Ironman on here, Betfair. The Derby runner-up clocked 28.16 (only +10 fast), when winning in the semis and judged on his disposal of Bridge Ruth in a calc 29.54 over 515m Hove, a time which isnt too far behind Eske's runs at the seaside track, looks back to his peak. He'll do for me at the prices.
Had to have a go on Mags Gamble, won 7 of his last 8 races and got 10.5 on here. He excelled himself at Newcastle and if converting that form to Nottingham will surely give Eske a harder target than usual to pass.
One last little play, 19.5 Holdem Spy. Bit concerned about his hot opening heat coz he's not the quickest early but possesses tremendous gears and could go all the way, with the rub of the green.
Think Lister could be out of luck on this occasion. Dont really fancy Taylors Sky or Boher Paddy and Farloe Tango may need to gain racing room during qualification.
Good luck!
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Personally Addy, think youve got every chance of a qualifying place Saturday. Wouldnt be surprised to see any of the 6 in the final, so you could say youve got a 50/50 shot? Good thing is she's in winning form, usually counts for a lot.
Good luck!
Good luck!
thanks woody - i just dont see her leading this. i think there is definite trouble at the bend i just hope she is brave and skips clear of it rather than holding back or being on the end of it - would be delighted if she caused it cutting the bend.
Nov 15, 2012 -- 8:44AM, Addy_D wrote:
6 quid farloe ironman, 7 quid mags gamble and 2 quid holdem spy? i'm a huge fan of farloe tango, think the dog has so much raw ability and speed its frightening. if he wasnt so clumsy and learnt how to race i'm not sure who would be the faster dog out of him and eske i rate him that highly. think at 8/1 he is a good ew play (not sure if CretFred actually laid any 12s? i was too slow) although stopping in the trial the other week would be a small concern.
addy, I have baldy's accounts in front of me here so I can tell you how much they laid on farloe tango
liability
farloe tango £ feck.all p
brilliant competition, really looking forward to it
obviously eske can but 6/4 in all age comp
teejays bluehawk, boher paddy and romeo recruit all fair e/w value imo
obviously eske can but 6/4 in all age comp
teejays bluehawk, boher paddy and romeo recruit all fair e/w value imo
teejays and romeo in the 2 weakest heats imo, teejays likely to keep qualifying given style/track defo should suit, romeo nice bit of early and impressed in produce, paddy got his box in heat and normally there or thereabouts in finals would love to see him win
someone I know offered max £6 on 25/1 shot in Eclipse w/o Eske, and another posts on G/Scene saying BaldFred not take more than a bullseye and another post
"None of the bookies will, i was trying to back my dog today for a small sum and was knocked back and co - incidently the owner of another dog near to the top of the betting was in the same shop in Leicester.
We were both knocked back and offered the mighty sum of £25 by Ladcrooks (sic)
makes you appreciate BF, especially looking forward to anticipated future if similar trajectory followed by 'bookies'
"None of the bookies will, i was trying to back my dog today for a small sum and was knocked back and co - incidently the owner of another dog near to the top of the betting was in the same shop in Leicester.
We were both knocked back and offered the mighty sum of £25 by Ladcrooks (sic)
makes you appreciate BF, especially looking forward to anticipated future if similar trajectory followed by 'bookies'
is there anyway in watching the heats online anywhere tonight please ????
went in to back teejays 20 quid e/w, imbecile with no gcse's behind the counter was thinking about ringing up for that 
#gamesgone
#gamesgone
Ghost, the races (BAGS/BEGS)will be shown in betting shops in the high street. You should be able to get commentary, only, on William Hill radio.
imo, this competitition is like a mini-Derby such is the class of some of the protagonists. Excited and really looking forward to it.
Got Ironman, Mags and Spy antepost but of tonight's races, fancy:
5/2 Boher Paddy. Loathe to back against antepost bet Ironman but Paddy looks the value to me at the odds, on this occasion.
6/1 Hather George, trained by the Master Charlie Lister, his Sheffield form on a par with Head Iton Hayesy, imo and that's only a 2/1 shot. Teejays Bluehawk beat the smart Lemon Pluto in the Northern Puppy Derby. A fine win of 28.58s calc, considering Mags Gamble won the All England Cup in a 28.40s calc. Only trouble is convinced Pluto has improved since then, Bluehawk does it the hard way and may need modicum of luck finding a way through.
7/2 Mags Gamble. If he can run Nottingham as well as he does Newcastle, sure Eske will have a race on his hands catching Mags, then needs to get by also. Wont be as easy as many think, imo
Good Luck!
imo, this competitition is like a mini-Derby such is the class of some of the protagonists. Excited and really looking forward to it.
Got Ironman, Mags and Spy antepost but of tonight's races, fancy:
5/2 Boher Paddy. Loathe to back against antepost bet Ironman but Paddy looks the value to me at the odds, on this occasion.
6/1 Hather George, trained by the Master Charlie Lister, his Sheffield form on a par with Head Iton Hayesy, imo and that's only a 2/1 shot. Teejays Bluehawk beat the smart Lemon Pluto in the Northern Puppy Derby. A fine win of 28.58s calc, considering Mags Gamble won the All England Cup in a 28.40s calc. Only trouble is convinced Pluto has improved since then, Bluehawk does it the hard way and may need modicum of luck finding a way through.
7/2 Mags Gamble. If he can run Nottingham as well as he does Newcastle, sure Eske will have a race on his hands catching Mags, then needs to get by also. Wont be as easy as many think, imo
Good Luck!
agree woody, cannot wait for these heats
can't see any problems for paddy/ironman as drawn ok
you've identified the lemon pluto boost and given teejays absolutely no credit
for absolutely mowing it down at brough
also tempted by mags getting first run, got box to smash out from and possible that 1 holds eske up but see what prices are
can't see any problems for paddy/ironman as drawn ok
you've identified the lemon pluto boost and given teejays absolutely no credit
for absolutely mowing it down at broughalso tempted by mags getting first run, got box to smash out from and possible that 1 holds eske up but see what prices are
2 has got one of the weakest heats imo, should clear 1
respect 2 on how it won on monday, 4 is iffy imo
horrible cant didn't want to go on Tuesday night and wins tonight
oioioioioioioi mags yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy 
shocks aplenty tonight
no excuse not to bring him to Shelbourne now if he has come off sound
decent night in the end, small profit and all a/p bets through
This thread became the Wonder/PF show last night! 
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Very pleased with 5/2 Paddy 7/2 Mags and aftertiming, the nearly 15/1 double.
Thought i was unlucky with 6/1 Hather George, didnt get the rub of the green but only narrowly beaten. Hayesy ran a very disappointing race again
At the start of the thread, said didnt fancy Paddy and Sky, still dont, but that's referring to the outright win.
Fatty, the way Bertie closed down Paddy run-in, dont think Paddy would make a proper six-bend dog. Feel the same Sky.
.Very pleased with 5/2 Paddy 7/2 Mags and aftertiming, the nearly 15/1 double.
Thought i was unlucky with 6/1 Hather George, didnt get the rub of the green but only narrowly beaten. Hayesy ran a very disappointing race again
At the start of the thread, said didnt fancy Paddy and Sky, still dont, but that's referring to the outright win.
Fatty, the way Bertie closed down Paddy run-in, dont think Paddy would make a proper six-bend dog. Feel the same Sky.
575 Romford woody I'm not talking about leger distance!
anyway there gone to stud ain't they after this!
On results mr l had a great one, Holdem spy came last?
short lived eclipse over than
anyway there gone to stud ain't they after this!
On results mr l had a great one, Holdem spy came last?
short lived eclipse over than
Very disappointing antepost with Spy and Ironman both out, thought they would have done much better than that.
Farloe Tango only chasing intermitently, penny not dropping and has his own ideas about the game. Had my doubts about Bluehawk, seems i was right in thinking Pluto big improver since Newcastle. Longwood Fantasy showing some consistency now, see how long it lasts.
Disagree with you about Eske, PF. Now is the ideal time to go to Shelbourne. Couldnt have worked out better, if you ask me. Eske broke well, bang there, but murdered at the bend. Knocked all over the place and any lesser dog would have been beaten miles, not a thereabouts fourth. Only concern for me, this was his most competitive race and could be a sign of things to come in top-quality all-aged company. His gears are still absolute though and personally think he would take plenty of beating at Shelbourne
Farloe Tango only chasing intermitently, penny not dropping and has his own ideas about the game. Had my doubts about Bluehawk, seems i was right in thinking Pluto big improver since Newcastle. Longwood Fantasy showing some consistency now, see how long it lasts.
Disagree with you about Eske, PF. Now is the ideal time to go to Shelbourne. Couldnt have worked out better, if you ask me. Eske broke well, bang there, but murdered at the bend. Knocked all over the place and any lesser dog would have been beaten miles, not a thereabouts fourth. Only concern for me, this was his most competitive race and could be a sign of things to come in top-quality all-aged company. His gears are still absolute though and personally think he would take plenty of beating at Shelbourne
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no excuse not to bring him to Shelbourne now if he has come off sound
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no excuse not to bring him to Shelbourne now if he has come off sound
Woody your going to have pf on you now!!!
read what he said!!
read what he said!!
Reckon Woody still p155ed (NAP)
Been on the Colombian Marching Powder (NB)
Been on the Colombian Marching Powder (NB)
His side burns are covering his eyes!!!
Sure we all read things wrong at times 
Getting back to what woody said about eske the 600 be up his street
550 WARHAWK going by what we say at belle
525 for Eden and not the sprint
what a night if they all go over!!
550 WARHAWK going by what we say at belle
525 for Eden and not the sprint
what a night if they all go over!!
Sorry PF, all that registered was not bring to Shelbourne, still early! 
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Howabout Grand Crus today?
.Howabout Grand Crus today?
Don't worry about it, i've done the same and read things wrong before.
I think Grand Crus is too short now, Long Run got beat in this race off a similar mark the year he won the King George and Gold Cup although he usually needs a run to bring him on. He looks ridicolously well in considering what Silviniaco Conti did in the Charlie Hall but it's still a tough race. Most likely winner and could well hack up but at the prices i'd rather not play.
I bet Forpadydeplasterer @ 33/1 e/w the other day, think he's on a very good mark, still retains plenty of ability and likes Cheltenham. Just wanted the rain to stay away which it hasn't so confidence has gone down a fair bit, hopefully he can still run a place for me.
I think Grand Crus is too short now, Long Run got beat in this race off a similar mark the year he won the King George and Gold Cup although he usually needs a run to bring him on. He looks ridicolously well in considering what Silviniaco Conti did in the Charlie Hall but it's still a tough race. Most likely winner and could well hack up but at the prices i'd rather not play.
I bet Forpadydeplasterer @ 33/1 e/w the other day, think he's on a very good mark, still retains plenty of ability and likes Cheltenham. Just wanted the rain to stay away which it hasn't so confidence has gone down a fair bit, hopefully he can still run a place for me.
you'd have to be nuts to take 5/2 in a 20 runner handicaps at chelters, I've thrown a few quid at divers and kingsmere
Thanks and good luck.
Despite nightmares of Cheltenham, still a big Grand Crus fan. Hills were going priority odds 4/1 but not accepting and when i phoned, told it was a limited offer, waste of time in other words. Just this instant saw 5/2 with James, but it was Scotch mist. Had to go with 9/4. Saw money back if your horse 2nd to Grand Crus betting with the Racing Post app, but dunno what that is, thought it was short for appointment!
Despite nightmares of Cheltenham, still a big Grand Crus fan. Hills were going priority odds 4/1 but not accepting and when i phoned, told it was a limited offer, waste of time in other words. Just this instant saw 5/2 with James, but it was Scotch mist. Had to go with 9/4. Saw money back if your horse 2nd to Grand Crus betting with the Racing Post app, but dunno what that is, thought it was short for appointment!
Not totally disagreeing with you Wonder, but many are just making up the numbers and have little chance of getting into it
divers is a non-runner now
of course grands crus can win but how much is he priced on pipe's record in the race? (9 in total, but 8 by his dad, at the time renowned for getting his horses uber fit whereas a lot of others weren't)
of course grands crus can win but how much is he priced on pipe's record in the race? (9 in total, but 8 by his dad, at the time renowned for getting his horses uber fit whereas a lot of others weren't)
Could be an exceptional day if Crus wins, City beat Villa and Fletch and Xavier win tonight!
Missus gone for Al Ferof, dont fancy it. Would have given Hunt Ball a chance but for drifting like a barge
al ferof lost his confidence last season, so this is the last race you want to be running in imo
hunt ball should run his race, priced accordingly
hunt ball should run his race, priced accordingly
Coral latest betting Eclipse
5/2 Mags
7/2 Tango
7/1 Fantasy
7/1 Sky
12/1 Sawpit
12/1 Bluehawk
14/1 Recruit
16/1 Paddy
20/1 bar
20/1 George. Sorry i didnt have a couple of quid at 75/1 now
5/2 Mags
7/2 Tango
7/1 Fantasy
7/1 Sky
12/1 Sawpit
12/1 Bluehawk
14/1 Recruit
16/1 Paddy
20/1 bar
20/1 George. Sorry i didnt have a couple of quid at 75/1 now
cant decide if im happy to be on tango or not! didnt see last nights race, and i think i remember him being in the "easiest" semi final but jesus christ someone stick some head gear on him.
Nov 17, 2012 -- 12:40PM, woodmanchester wrote:Missus gone for Al Ferof, dont fancy it. Would have given Hunt Ball a chance but for drifting like a barge
your mrs should do your dog bets as well woody
anybody think boher paddy overpriced at 16s got to overcome trap4 but if he can repeat sectional got everychance leading and cutting across if he gets in final cant see him going off bigger than 4s if drawn trap1
i didnt see first round heats so just card reading
i didnt see first round heats so just card reading
Really think Paddy is too long in the tooth now to win a Cat One. Still like the dog and retains some ability but had loads and loads of chances when he was at his very best and younger. Bertie nearly caught him in the heats but wouldnt be surprised if Paddy reached the final.
Yeah, missus different class to me. At least City beat Villa 5-0!
Yeah, missus different class to me. At least City beat Villa 5-0!
woody who was that guy kept stealing your limelight at the zoo? he was a magnet to the sky camera
PP, he can smash from 4 but I'm disappointed with the draw
Dunno Pairs, wasnt he one of Warhawk's owners? He's welcome to the limelight anyway. Not the place to get all suited and booted
england tops, fila trackies and man city baseball caps the order of the day
It is at an open-air fish n chip shop like Belle Vue!
No strong views but rooting for Mags Gamble at 10.5 antepost on here, Betfair.
Three great and intersting semis, with all runners well known.
Mags faces some worthy rivals in Sawpit, Bluehawk and Whittle. Sky has Fantasy and Paddy to beat and who knows what Tango will do?
From a selfish point of view could do with Mags qualifying and going for the big win in the final, with Sky and Tango out, but no malice intended
Good luck if youre having a dabble
Three great and intersting semis, with all runners well known.
Mags faces some worthy rivals in Sawpit, Bluehawk and Whittle. Sky has Fantasy and Paddy to beat and who knows what Tango will do?
From a selfish point of view could do with Mags qualifying and going for the big win in the final, with Sky and Tango out, but no malice intended
Good luck if youre having a dabble
want to back longwood 9/4 but got to stop backing nut jobs there costing me dear!
Also might play the Romeo dog inside (tango and stop) at 4/1
Also might play the Romeo dog inside (tango and stop) at 4/1
You backing him Irish or is it just another wind up from the Emerald Isle like PF. Watch, I'll get to the Night of Stars and it wont be taking place!
yes woody had a nibble
very impressed with one of its recent runs
quarter final material if it gets there
very impressed with one of its recent runs
quarter final material if it gets there
Quite like SS or Tb to turn Mags over. Quite an ask but Whittle can be a right pain when trapping and whilst I love Mags, its all about the prices isn't it?
Irish, Mags has become a consistent high-flier quite late in his career. Derby next year put back and wondering how close he will be to a veteran dog then?
Good luck though
Good luck though
very much looking forward to these semis, mags odds on with pace up its inner 1 has a nice make-up to track pace and pick up any pieces/qualify
1 has a nice make-up to track pace and pick up any pieces/qualify
mags gamble out
massive trouble at the 3rd bend ( comms only )
massive trouble at the 3rd bend ( comms only )
4 led, total carnage at 3rd bend, 2&3 both brought down when beat, 1 involved 4-6-5
hi wonders, sounded like 1 going for the inside and casued the trouble
i'm off mate, good luck
i'm off mate, good luck
that's it gwlad had a good night on graded races though 
had a good night on graded races though
farloe tango will smash em if in the mood but its capable of allsorts, have to take it on with 1/6
will smash em if in the mood but its capable of allsorts, have to take it on with 1/6
Been following Sky and Paddy all year at my peril, typical. Mags fell, hope he's going to be okay
2-3 shame thats through think its a horrible dog
oi oi paddy
anybody remember a trainer getting 4 out of the 6 in final?
just need paddy t1
tango t2
sky t5
anybody remember a trainer getting 4 out of the 6 in final?
just need paddy t1
tango t2
sky t5
no dont know the draw, would be quite pleased if tango could be a good boy one last race.
yep addy me too an half of leicester! got sawpit has e/w back up , just cant see a clean race inside what ever the make up. early in tangos races i thought it was just greeness now its just a matter of time before he ends up at holloways trialing for the springbok!!gl
gl
Is it likely that this will be paddy and sky last race?
what won going to win?
Or will nick the Greek take it !
what won going to win?
Or will nick the Greek take it !
1 Westmead
2 Paddy
3 Sky
4 Tango
5 Hather
6 Sawpit (W)
2 Paddy
3 Sky
4 Tango
5 Hather
6 Sawpit (W)
Draw
1 Bertie
2 Paddy
3 Sky
4 Tango
5 George
6 Sawpit
Kicking myself didnt back George at ridiculously large odds.
Best thing to come out of this comp, imo, that Paddy has a decent chance to get his elusive Catagory One win, just in the nick of time, hopefully. Far better draw than last year's final
1 Bertie
2 Paddy
3 Sky
4 Tango
5 George
6 Sawpit
Kicking myself didnt back George at ridiculously large odds.
Best thing to come out of this comp, imo, that Paddy has a decent chance to get his elusive Catagory One win, just in the nick of time, hopefully. Far better draw than last year's final
Sorry Derry, wasnt there when i started writing
Coral bet:
7/4 Sky
7/2 Tango
9/2 Paddy (looks very fair to me)
5/1 Sawpit
13/2 Bertie
7/1 George
Now Mags gone, had a pop at Paddy to get that elusive Cat One. Unlike the semis, he's on the inside of kennelmate Sky now and only beaten half a length there, dont think there's a difference of 7/4 - 9/2
7/4 Sky
7/2 Tango
9/2 Paddy (looks very fair to me)
5/1 Sawpit
13/2 Bertie
7/1 George
Now Mags gone, had a pop at Paddy to get that elusive Cat One. Unlike the semis, he's on the inside of kennelmate Sky now and only beaten half a length there, dont think there's a difference of 7/4 - 9/2
what a travesty if Tango wins this dog is not chasing the hare at all it is laughable to see what it does when it runs out of dogs to pass whatever you back have a saver on a photo with Tango and anyone of the other five. Personally would like to see Sky or George win.
woody i put paddy up on here as a good bet at 16s and you said
Really think Paddy is too long in the tooth now to win a Cat One
now its 9/2 you fancy it?
Really think Paddy is too long in the tooth now to win a Cat One
now its 9/2 you fancy it?
I know Pairs. Didnt seem to be in the form to win this at the start. I said Lister could be out of luck too and just look at his finalists! . Saw Taylors Sky eliminated in the semis at Zoo and deffo not Eclipse winning form. Lister seems to have got them all back on song though, not called "The Master" for nothing and think Paddy can lead and although almost most by Bertie in the first round, usually extremely hard to catch on the bunny. Inside of Sky clinches it for me as wouldnt trust Tango. Saw Sawpit narrowly beat Paddy not so long ago at Sheffield but Sawpit pinged on that occasion, but rarely does. Dunno how 365 can make them 5/1 apiece. Much prefer Paddy and gone in again at 5/1, bidding to win some ammunition for Saturday. Talking of which, got a new City baseball cap now Pairs. My mates going too, with his missus, so look out for me stood next to a lad wearing glasses. Cheers! Hey, got a bit carried away there. That's a paragraph to end all paragraphs!
. Saw Taylors Sky eliminated in the semis at Zoo and deffo not Eclipse winning form. Lister seems to have got them all back on song though, not called "The Master" for nothing and think Paddy can lead and although almost most by Bertie in the first round, usually extremely hard to catch on the bunny. Inside of Sky clinches it for me as wouldnt trust Tango. Saw Sawpit narrowly beat Paddy not so long ago at Sheffield but Sawpit pinged on that occasion, but rarely does. Dunno how 365 can make them 5/1 apiece. Much prefer Paddy and gone in again at 5/1, bidding to win some ammunition for Saturday. Talking of which, got a new City baseball cap now Pairs. My mates going too, with his missus, so look out for me stood next to a lad wearing glasses. Cheers! Hey, got a bit carried away there. That's a paragraph to end all paragraphs!
PP, you missed the 25s or was that after first round? really hope paddy cops top 4 minimum, lovely dog long overdue a big win
agree with lockup, wouldn't even bother with forecast saver, it will either win or disgrace itself imo
or was that after first round? really hope paddy cops top 4 minimum, lovely dog long overdue a big win agree with lockup, wouldn't even bother with forecast saver, it will either win or disgrace itself imo
wonder 25s with eske in comp
16s with out eske in comp
i put my bet on after eske was knocked out last two comps had the runner up and eway money back only due a winner paddy to crack out and make all be nice
fingers crossed
16s with out eske in comp
i put my bet on after eske was knocked out last two comps had the runner up and eway money back only due a winner paddy to crack out and make all be nice
fingers crossed
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