pat thompson sacked

Its about time. If Its what I think its about other trainers you better beware and check your kennel staff you cant be too sure especially in these hard times.

as of today? so runners pulled out tomorrow?

whats he done

he is a she......and her eight planned runners will be changes for tomorrows card...

bbc2     29 Oct 12 19:24 
whats he done

Oct 30, 2012 -- 3:45AM, Dan Chipowski wrote:

bbc2     29 Oct 12 19:24  whats he done

whats she done

Owner/kennelhand was laying dogs on here according to gscene.

Wonder what their forum name is

would have been ok if they used ladbrokes

This is rife now imho

I recall you taking me to task for suggesting that a while ago irish ! A lot of this could be nipped in the bud if tracks announced an enquiry when heavily fancied dogs run badly and betting patterns gyrate. There doesnt have to be suspensions or disqualifications in each case (they aren't machines we all know that) but if tracks called trainers  in and talked about issues the public would feel it was being policed better and the more frequent offenders might just be deterred from making a habit of it in case they were rumbled. Asking for an explanation and printing a summary in programmes would reassure a lot of punters.

In that situation you had absolutely no evidence Treetop, sounded like a guessing loser as I recall !

Meanwhile more and more of these are turning up on the disciplinary reports via the GBGB website......

Kennelhand and Owner Tim Piercy was found in breach of rules 152(i) and (ii) and 184B (ii) and (iii) of the GBGB Rules of Racing in that that he had layed bets on greyhounds under his care as a licensed kennelhand and licensed owner on diverse dates between 26 September 2009 and 21 March 2012.

Kennelhand Mr Sean Begley was found in breach of rules 152(i) and (ii) and 184B(ii) of the GBGB rules of racing in that that he had layed bets on eight greyhounds under his care as a licensed kennelhand on diverse dates between 10 June 2011 and 28 October 2011.

the good thing is most kennel connections are clueless and make things so obvious when it comes to the market

yes czech. never understand why people put lumps up backing or laying, all that does is shorten/push the market as others jump in front. bit of patience required but 30 quid here and there keeps the market price the same and you get on eventually. sticking one lump does stick out in most cases.

yep all comes down to pure greed and a lack of self discipline

why are the muppets using there own accounts?

a owner at monmore told me he always tried to pull a fast one over the bookies and they never knew when he was backing his dogs,
i said what do you do back them off course or get sombody else to put u on?
no i put my bet up on betfair about 5/2 for £200 stake before i leave the house at 6pm
he then proceeded to moan how he never got more than 6/4 and sombody in the kennel was taking the p1ss

we might be looking at this from the wrong direction
the question i would ask
is why do they need to do it ?
putting their reputation, career , life on the line
probrably underpaid, overworked and uneducated enough to think they can get away with it ... shame really

We can disagree on the other one irish but you do have a good point there. I think the wiser trainers understand that it isn't worth punting a dog and risking their career for the sake of a few hundred as the BAGS influence makes track management twitchy about betting coups. The difficult point is that owners need to have the feeling they are getting something for their input and if trainers say nowt we are seeing owners drift out of the sport so that only trainers will be owning dogs before long. I know of at least one trainer who was told to get a syndicate of 4 young lads out of his kennel because they bet £2k on a BAGS race and won. Nothing had been said when the same group had spent £3k on a dog from Ireland that broke its leg in a trial. Why would owners bother but why should a trainer risk it on behalf of others,a difficult balance ?