Shelbourne Park, Saturday December 1st

WARHAWK bet of night !!
**** he's got to over come some draw!
didn't trap at all belle vue (3 rounds )as to be a worry for his fans
he's got the gears

I don't think any will go. I suppose Madison could go close to his own clock again but i don't think he leads this week. Had Sugar Ray ran the 575 clock could have been in danger but i don't see any of that field doing it. Sparta Maestro's clock is simply stunning and i'd be surprised to see that go. Can't see the 750 going either and not even sure what the 850 clock is, does Corporate Attack have that?

The track will probably be mental and they'll all go now

Think whatever wins the Sprint will have to do 18.40 so there's a chance of that going. Think the 600 record could very well go too!

live on IGB if you pay the €20 fee, was v poor reliability few months ago but has got better but was freezing again tonight.

Corporate Attack is 850yd holder in 2009, next best run was 70 spots slower in 2005!

I really think some British folk are gonna see how far behind Ireland their dogs are, with exception of the stayers obviously. Most of Eske and Warhawk races were against pups, and re Eske two clocks at Notts, well Sawpit just did a length quicker, I think my old sausage dog if he were still alive could break clock round there. If Eske cant through round 1 of Eclipse why would people take v short price on taking on much better class dogs in SPK. Warhawk from Trap 4, gotta be barking to back him..

very true about the notts clock!
and WARHAWK  too
But eske  as done 29.30 round hove!

will he stay 600yd Fattie?

against all aged..

Long odds-on wont be going but had a few bets.

850yds, 15/8 Future Boy cost me dearly Derby night but longer trip suit and think can collar Oneco. Dont rate the chances of the English here.

350yds, In contrast, happy with a little bet 7/1 Fernhill Jess, best odds guaranteed all dogs with 365 and PP, incidentally. Anything could win, imo, just flying the flag here.

Next Puppy Quarters. Got 3/1 Paradise Madison antepost and will be looking for her to further enhance her outright claims.

525yds Happy with 3/1 Farloe Warhawk. Tricky draw but fair bit quicker than Knockglass Billy Derby night and has since proved he can come from behind, unlike some of these. Dunno why Droopys Jet was 6/4 early show. Had his red Derby night, but no good.

600yds, Already said why i fancy 11/8 Eske. Just got a hunch Sparta Maestro may not be quite at his brilliant best. Besides, Barrie Draper knows exactly what it takes to win round Shelbourne Park.

525 Bitches, 575yds, 750 yds and 550yds all look hard to me and if having a go, minimum stakes. 5/1 College Maybe may be okay, dont think that far behind some shorter ones, at best. Same can be said of 5/1 Airlie Jet. 9/4 Droopys Robles, if breaking. Not sure Mildean Panther will get a run. Like i say, all hard races.

Good luck and have fun!

Kingo is worth something small @ 16s too in the 600 race i'd say, no idea how they have Tibetan Skies that price compared to Kingo and they are the wrong way around in my opinion. On his last race around here on Derby night Tibetan Skies refused to win over 575y hitting the front into the 3rd and then pulled up.

Dont you just know that at the end of the night there will be at least one local shelbourne park regular that beats all the foreigners and wins at big odds !

Droopys Jet napped here, will leave the bet until the death, only one defeat out of trap 1 at SP (v Vic), fair chance but see if the rains come first.
Will be keeping an eye on Mildeans price, no doubt the owners will weigh in if fit, shame they didnt wait a while with the straws.
Obviously like to see Maestro win, but question mark over his pain in the r s !
   g l

fair chance but see if the rains come first.

What difference does it make if it rains or not? There won't be a bias either way.

Hopefully somebody goes bigger on him and i will play

some of those dogs will like it more than others , and its peeing down here at the moment, you'll be getting it tonight and tomorrow.

So you would not play Droopys Jet then in the off chance that he doesn't like rain??

jet isn't a slow ground dog

It was monsoon like weather last week, shockingly bad and the track was not slow so why would that be a worry? The dog gets 550y and is running over 525y, he stays 525y strongly, look at his 525y runs where he runs away from Bridge Honcho up the straight.

All I am saying is i wont back him if its slow

The track would not be significantly slow unless they dug up the sand etc and it absolutely bucketed down on the treated surface.

They will want the track as fast as possible on this night with the anticipation that brilliant times can make the headlines. The rain that came last week was as heavy as we are likely to see and the chances of the track being slow must be very remote.

I agree with you , but there is not much between these dogs , and the number of times dogs are put up on here for the open meets in the evening and then cometh the hour its either peeing down,  there's a track bias or the early pacers are not getting home. I think both Mildean and Droopys are late decisions , albeit for different reasons.

Feeling slightly better. Dont want to miss if i can help it. Bit worried about all the walking, not least to the Ryanair gate at the very far end of the long, long terminal coming home. If i go, will need digs too being under the weather. Originally, was just going to stay out all night until coach to airport about 3am!

I thought you had a cold?

Was a bit worse than that. More like a fever. Felt drained but getting some energy back now thanks

Best advice would be to take your balls out of your purse and man up

Didnt go docs. Probably just a 48-hour bug or something

Didnt go docs. Probably just a 48-hour bug or something

I'd better go get some euros now then!

Not sure where prices have gone on Oddschecker?

Thought Ladcrooks would have had odds, so phoned them. Told nothing doing until morning, i'll probably be on my way then. Dont think these betting telephone operators know what day it is anyway

850yds, first race, Storm Pockets out, Benro Sparky in

Spoilsports are going 11/1 the double Tally and Panther [if you can get on].

I made Tally 2/1 and Panther 9/4 to 100% which doubled is only 8.75/1 so it's looks value to me

Having second thoughts about Panther now. Think he could have a decent chance.

Thick fog here near Manchester Airport. Hope flights arent grounded tomorrow!

12/1 that double with powers

Too late now coz bets already struck but any special odds the Warhawk-Eske double?

Too late now coz bets already struck but any special odds the Warhawk-Eske double?

9/1, don't think it's any value at all.

Anyway if you fancy Eske i'd wait to back him on course, he'll be bigger imo

My mate said so too in the face of strong Irish support for Maestro but if Warhawk wins, wouldnt be so sure

Tinglingly exciting when Warhawk won the Laurels at Belle Vue. You could see the pride in Barrie's face. People tried to shout congratulations but were stuck for words. Make no mistake, this is some dog

only words I would said where u beat Rex who been on settie and  longwood who had floppy ears the other night
And mad inside going so dont get to carried away but big but he can win tomorrow tell yar how bad the Irish 525 div is

Irish not bad 525yds as you say Fatty. Just Warhawk has flown round here before and you forget he beat Eske in the Puppy Derby?

Dont know how you can knock his Laurels win, on the back of 16 wins out of 19 races

Longwood Fantasy chucked the Laurels away, he had it won if he wanted but decided to jog around instead of going on the dirty pig.

This race is on another planet to the race Warhawk won Derby night and he had a dream draw that night, however if he does manage to smash and clear the inside they won't be back running him but at the prices i don't think he is value to do so. I certainly wouldn't be ruling him out.

Some flights cancelled, some delayed. Hope it improves for the morning

Don't worry, you're flying with Ryanair ain't you? They have no regard for your safety, they wouldn't leave their planes grounded for a hurricane let alone a bit of fog.

Seriously though i hope you have no problems

Think Rioga could lead him but would still be optimistic if only turning handy

Anyway, Warhawk would have won the Laurels a shade cozy if not forced to check final bend, imo

Cheers PF, shame if i miss it now

majority of Eske and Warhawk races have been against pups.

10/1 the Draper Double and 12/1 the Milldean Double look value.

3/1 that Paradise Madison does the clock again. Any takers????

Night Of Stars Specials below...

http://www.oddschecker.com/greyhounds/daily-specials

Fog gone, peeing down now!

Dont think red really Warhawk's jacket. 2 or 3 probably ideal, it's just the early pace on his inside the worry.

Maestro's run Derby night was awesome. Very hard to beat if reproducing but not guaranteed to do so, imo

Cya there!

Fernhill jess when priced up early 11/4 thought it was way to short
But At a crazy 7/1 your chance it smash and grab!

Trend 3/1 got the draw been round befor

WARHAWK 3/1 needs to break better than belle vue but a winnable race

Eske 11/8 think the trip suit great draw best race by mile!

Little yankee

Cheer on benro might play at big prices

Mr Swayne,You said on another site that you think that Eske n Warhawk shouldn't be running tonight.The Draper family have always supported Irish racing.Some years ago Bobbyjack created the Champion stakes but short of runners he asked Albert for help it was a £1000 per entry and Albert said no problem put me down for one.Some years later in a pub in New Inn in Co Tipp a stranger came to Albert and said Clonmel is in trouble so Albert went in to his back pocket and gave him a grand that to me is support,

Lets welcome woodie to the bankrupt country, run by chancers and gaaangsters, hope woodie that you get out before wednesday's black day for all honest Irish paye workers.
Hope you win some euro's at this IGB.,+ Bookies benefit night

I hope if tonight a big hit
we could do the same thing
In England ! but the main thing I'd do
is have top oz and USA  runners init
To make it World Cup of greyhound racing
at Coventry come on Harry £20k a race
The game needs it bad!!!

Eske against Maestroreminds me of Master McGrath against Fullerton the Irish still sing about Mcgraths victory  get our revenge tonite go on Barry

cant have the warhawk at all, i'm buzzing the Com cakes 1/4 finals, have piled into Skywalker ew in the outright, think there is a value bet in each 1/4 final

like Lassa Expedition 5/2 and Ballymac Eske 11/8
but the nap must be Isabels Boy  10/3

Mr Mint, viz your post above. Yes, that's my view that English based dogs should not be running because the revenue to pay prizemoney on the night has been generated by attendances at tracks in Ireland which has been produced by Irish based dogs' owners paying for training, vet, race entry fees and diesel costs for those dogs to run at tracks in Ireland all year.

Now that the card is finalized I think it looks excellent & will support and cant wait to watch and hope all dogs come back sound.

The Draper family do indeed take the dogs they train to Ireland from time to time for mostly one off races to compete for big prizes. And you comment on Albert RIP generous contributions, and they should be congratulated for this.

But they dont own all their dogs, and if you were e.g Danmar Benny's owner or similar dogs connections that have competed in Ireland all year, paying the entry fees for each race and diesel, and have not even got any run money in some races, and those entry fee revenues  are now being paid out in prizemoney for Night of Stars, do you think they think it's OK for dogs to come over and run and they are not accepted..particularly when the initial press release said the Night was an Irish night for Irish greyhound racing. Is that right? I say no. But will enjoy the racing. The Drapers support Irish racing very occasionally, but nowhere near to the extent those do that support it each and every week with their hard earned and attendances

Swayne's ridiculous post shows everything that is wrong with a huge number of people in uk and irish racing. Just utterly awful. No wonder the sport is dying on its feet.

"that English based dogs should not be running because"


..... because they are fecking s4it and will get their r s well and truly kicked tonight at the shrine

You dont say why Mullar Omar.

Remember its not like the English Derby with big bookie sponsor or the Irish Derby (1 English entry) or the Dundalk INTERNATIONAL (zero English entries) both big bookie sponsor. A good proportion of night of stars are from people in Ireland going to their track week in week out and paying fro their dogs to enter races (unlike England), & other costs.

Here are excerpts from the original press release:


"NIGHT OF STARS A MASSIVE BOOST FOR IRISH GREYHOUND RACING

The inaugural Night of Stars will be staged at Shelbourne Park on Saturday, December 1st and the eight one-off championship races involved will carry total prizemoney of €92,000. It promises to be one of the greatest nights in the illustrious history of Shelbourne Park.

The Night of Stars is envisaged as the sport’s end of year celebration of our track champions.

As Pat explained, the IGB came up with the grants that made it all possible and the committee undertook the task of getting eight individual sponsors for each of the races.

Said Pat O’Donovan: “This night is being run for Irish greyhound racing and the owners, breeders, trainers and bookmakers will be the ones to benefit most. We ask them all to come on board to support us and to make this night a major success”.

The full all-open championship card on the big night will comprise of the Eight Night of Stars races plus the four quarter finals of the Comerford Cakes National Puppy Stake.

Mullar Omar should dogs from Chile, New Zealand, Pakistan, US, Australia, Argentina also be running?

p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y • November 29, 2012 7:53 PM GMT


" Future Boy in his races walks from boxes and at Shelbourne takes about 100y before he even starts running, he looks like he should get the trip but can he give some of these a head start and beat them."

woodmanchester • November 30, 2012 8:42 AM GMT

850yds, 15/8 Future Boy ///////////////////////  wd woody !

ChildOfMine2 • November 29, 2012 10:51 PM GMT "On the prices, thought that Big Casino at 5/1 was huge"  w d mate

p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y • November 29, 2012 5:58 PM GMT


350y Big Casino @ 5/1 - Won his last 7 at Shelbourne, actually never been beaten at the track. He has been absolutely flying around recently and his last run was ridicolous, he missed the kick and absolutely tore up to the corner. Obviously he can't afford to miss it here but i think he is a brilliant sprinter and has awesome pace to the corner and i think he will take all the beating

w d pf !

p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y • November 29, 2012 5:58 PM GMT

525y Bitch Borna Gem @ 5/2 - She ran a cracker last week after making a right mess of the start, she showed good pace up to the corner and then down the back only to be forced to check at the 3rd. She has a nice draw being inside Milldean Tally which i think is the crucial part and if she gets it right at boxes i think she can lead around on the fence. Milldean Tally would still be a huge danger if following her around but at the prices i felt Borna Gem was the bet.

w d p f ! (again)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nenydOuagfE

p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y • November 29, 2012 5:58 PM GMT
750y White Soks Roks @ 5/2 - He has done everything right over the trip so far, he starts and he stays. His draw is fine and if he traps as he has done in his previous 750y races around here he will lead them and if he leads them i will be disappointed if he is beaten, very surprised he was so big.

One P F ... there's only one PF .....

Warhawk backers breathe a sigh of relief! Going to be a late finish tonight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgIf-fHPS20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obgnw_Wn9j4&feature=BFa&list=UUEV7cSsCiaIHkkFde2pJ_pQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7z0c3TW9jk&feature=autoplay&list=UUEV7cSsCiaIHkkFde2pJ_pQ&playnext=2

ww.youtube.com/watch?v=a5RCcDnX0eI&feature=autoplay&list=UUEV7cSsCiaIHkkFde2...

The 600 yds race was one of the best races I have ever seen. Two exceptional dogs.

well done P.F  and well done to shelbourne park on a great nights racing..i wont forget the last race in a hurry a great race but i had 1/6/3 insteed of 6/1/3  ..a great buzz about the place as well.

Last race will live long in the memory. Greyhound racing at its best. Lets hope these two Super hounds meet again next year.

One of the finest buckles i hav ever seen well dun maestro and eske what about a return

600y Sparta Maestro @ 11/8 -  Eske is coming to Maestro's home ground and Sparta Maestro should be favourite.

The cherry on the cake ...w d again PF , different class !

Droopys Alexus broke her hock in the first, very sad, saved for the breeding paddocks hopefully,
PF., probably had a right good night. Sparta Maestro was just brilliant on the night.
Bornea showed some pace to the bend, after slightly missing the kick..........

Excellent meeting. Spent a small fortune for one night's entertainment but worth every penny. Here's my angle on it:

Said thought Maestro would be better suited to the long run up than Eske but still count myself a shade unlucky not to have recouped expenses. Eske closed approaching the 3rd bend and looked like he might have gone on at one point. However, he crucially lost over a length, to my estimations, when challenging but squeezed for room on the inside on the crest. Still a slight chances with Maetro wide run in, as said, but Eske had no more in the locker. Kicked myself didnt have the 6/4 saver Maestro but at the time, felt it too easy to back, considering he was in his own back-yard. Reckon it was still a tremendous buckle between two super dogs, with very little to choose between them

Drama with the 525 race declared void after the hare cable snapped. From what i could see, all the money was for Knockglass Billy and reckon the bookies had a very lucky escape. Billy shot out and a skirmish between Warhawk and Rioga, soon after leaving the boxes, saw him flying along the back straight with a winning lead, imo, before the breakdown.

Lot of great wins elsewhere, including Borna Gem (now the fastest bitch ever over the 525 course) and White Soks Roks (apparently a staying career in England may now beckon for him).

Finally, Leamaneigh Story lowered the colours of clock holder Paradise Madison in the first quarter final of the puppy comp and looks a fine prospect.

Would have to say one of the very best meetings i've ever attended!

Sparta Maestro is the best 600y dog i have ever seen, he is an absolute monster over the trip. I don't think he came away as well as he usually does over the trip but didn't matter in the end.

Maestro was brilliant but if Eske ever gets a clear over that trip, would be just as fast, imo

Never seen a dog as happy as Eske on parade. Probably just my imagine but he seemed very pleased to be there with his tail wagging like fury on parade. Only 2nd look too. A re-match would be worth going a very long way to see!

Some great racing fair play to the track make me laught at some of the **** holes tracks we make do with here .mastro look the bllx if any the inside had the edge which made it all the better gl to all who had a go

Woody FFS ... as predicted you got your r ssss booted all over shelbourne

irishone • December 1, 2012 7:10 PM GMT


"that English based dogs should not be running because"


..... because they are fecking s4it and will get their r s well and truly kicked tonight at the shrine

"Eske closed approaching the 3rd bend and looked like he might have gone on at one point. However, he crucially lost over a length, to my estimations, when challenging but squeezed for room on the inside on the crest."

Eske checked a little given, but maestro had him anyway, still clear by a length at the pick up. I reckon eske had the same amount of room at the third bend as he did at the first, differece was he checked,  anyone over that side see how much room it had to get through ?

Races arent run to the pick up, Eske had no extra near line!

Point is, Eske lost over a length at three-quarters and was beaten only a length. He lost impetus there too and had to re-gather himself.

As i initially said when i heard he was going for the 600yds, the decision could cost them 10k euros coz 575yds easier pickings

You an expert all of a sudden Irish? Dont go telling me about my dogs!

no not an expert at all , just telling it how i saw it, eske checked up and you still reckon he's as good as maestro, well he wasn't was he ?

Best dog won on the night. Run the race a few times and think they'd probably win equal amounts.

Anyway, i see your fear about slow going in the rain was a major issue. If ever anyone was talking out of their *rse, it was you then!

The Connolly’s Red Mills 525, which had to be declared void after the hare-rail broke on Saturday’s major Night of Stars meeting, is likely to be run on Saturday night next.

Racing Manager Declan Carey said yesterday that “We hope to run the race on Saturday and we would envisage it being the feature race on a top class card that would include the semi-finals of the Comerford Cakes National Puppy Stake and the first round heats of the Shelbourne Christmas Oaks”.

The owners, trainers and sponsors will be consulted this morning to see if it is feasible to run the race next Saturday but the likelihood is that English challenger Farloe Warhawk may be an absentee. Trevor Draper said on Saturday that this race was intended to be his last of the year and a repeat journey to Ireland would be doubtful. It will be perfectly understandable if Farloe doesn’t go for the race but he could be replaced by one of the reserves for last Saturday’s race.

The problem on Saturday night was caused by the hare rail breaking and this resulted in the cable being sheared as it passed the 750 trap. Unfortunate as it was, it was the only negative on a fabulous night which featured a huge crowd and terrific betting returns.

A meeting of the Night of Stars Committee will be held in the coming weeks when it will be decided if the Night of Stars will continue next year. Certainly on Saturday there was a huge demand for the night to become an annual event.

RPTV should put on a rematch at Hove Englands best galloping track at 515mts.The stake holders of RPTV should put up the match prize money divided 50/50.How much would this create in betting turn over?

"Anyway, i see your fear about slow going in the rain was a major issue. If ever anyone was talking out of their *rse, it was you then!"

Think i know just a little bit more about the fecking awful weather here in Ireland than ye woody !

FAO Swayne - Yes if Argentinian/Chile dogs had strong enough form then ffs YES they should be allowed to run.

Factionalism, division, protectionism, self interest etc is all that is wrong in the game.

Their is a very real possibility that top end greyhound racing in UK and Ireland as we have known it for the past 20 odd years could fall to pieces very quickly over the next handful of years.

All interest groups need to come together for the betterment of the sport and that includes awesome nights like last saturday. I travelled from the UK to attend it and like many their thought the last race was a buckle that will last long in the memory and is the sort of thing that causes sponsors and owners/trainers with deep pockets to keep pulling up to help the sport. Oh and guess what it was a buckle that fascinated so much cos it had probably the best 600yard dogs from the UK and Ireland going at it.

agree was spectacle for reason you stated. think UK needs governing body that cares for sport and is independent and to attract non bookie sponsorship. my point was a) not fair for Irish dogs that had run all year that provided the revenue to pay prizemoney missing out for those that have not provided the revenue and b) was advertized as Irish night

think if same night had happened in UK & same scenario and GBGB/BGRF had underwritten to provide funds for prizemoney, UK folk would be up in arms

1. Droopys Jet
2. Knockglass Billy
3. Razldazl Rioga
4. Ashfield Impact
5. Lolos Joe
6. Danmar Benny


I wonder will the bookmakers (off course) price this up now? After going over the void race many times i've and even stronger opinion of the race now, wonder how they'll price it if they do.

2 will obviously be shorter than last week, I fancy the top. I had no opinion on the original race, Holland fancied 2 before last weeks race, and they thought he would have won on Saturday, I think Jet would have just pulled him in.
intriguing wee race for the opinionated

6 is out along with warhawk by the way

You are probably spot on Swayne.

But I was told that all us 400 mugs who paid up E100 each for a ticket in restaurant
on saturday conributed a huge chunk of the prize money?

The GBGB really is a mess. They should be leading the industry and given a mandate to do so. Instead
the leadership of it hide behind what they claim is their only role which is to `regulate'.

So UK greyhound racing continues down to the bottom of a well full of shhhiitte because there is no one with any authority
or power to try and plan for a brighter future.

Sickeningly sad.

its back to a 4 dog race now,no reserves

Watch the Jet go