*Tralee Race of Champions*

They should give Paul Young and those Bubbly boys a trophy for having the balls to come over and run in it unlike most of the other trainers over there IMVHO

Great rivalry. Think Phoenix will step up on trial and sound his warning for the Derby. Bert a big player too.

I would have loved to have seen him entered in the ECC Timber instead but can see why connections choose Tralle over Shelbourne.

CASHEN MAFUMA
POWER OF GOD
RAZLDAZL RIOGA
QUAIL HOLLOW
PARADISE MARTINI
BUBBLY PHOENIX


BALLYMAC VIC
AIRFORCE DIVA
DROOPYS JET
DEAR PA
YOUNG SID
SHELBOURNE GEOFF

Meh

Semi Final Prices (courtesy of Berkie Browne)

Heat 1.
Cashen Mafuma. 4-1
Power of God. 5-1
Razldazl Rioga. 7-2
Quail Hollow. 4-1
Paradise Martini. 6-1
Bubbly Phoenix. 2-1

Heat 2
Ballymac Vic. 3-1
Airforce Diva. 6-1
Droopys Jet. 6-4
Dear Pa. 7-2
Young Sid. 6-1
Shelbourne Geoff. 5-1

Two very good races very hard to call
Thought diva and Sid 6s big

Dunno. 7/2 Rioga if Phoenix gets held up and same price Pa on that trial run?

Had a look and after due consideration of his rivals, think Bubbly Phoenix a decent bet at 7/2 now. Droopys Jet's form wasnt up to Phoenix in the Wimbledon Derby and didnt know the event was over 550yds, so reservations about Rioga and Pa getting home. Bally Vic could be the fly in the ointment but would hope Phoenix would step up well on his trial

I could not back Bubbly Phoenix at that price, will Tralee suit him? He is well drawn in his semi final but even at that i couldn't be tempted. I would have played Power Of God if he didn't have Razldazl Rioga drawn directly outside him which is a worry to me.

Shelbourne Geoff has a great draw with the inside being possibly a mess up to the corner with all that early pace. (Airforce Diva does not run, Pablo Supreme reserve).

I think it's a competition to watch on.

Bubbly dog a tool but woody he's the away tream now
Jet be on home soil if good enaf I don't know, like pf said watching bief
bubbly be more at home at shel anyways!
Hoping there show replays on sky sat night!

Bubbly dog a tool but woody he's the away tream now
Jet be on home soil if good enaf I don't know, like pf said watching bief
bubbly be more at home at shel anyways!
Hoping there show replays on sky sat night!

Race Of Champions - Winner  2012-06-30
Favourites:    Bubbly Phoenix (4) , Droopys Jet (6) , Dear Pa (7) , Airforce Diva (8) , Razldazl Rioga (8) , Ballymac Vic (10) , Cashen Mafuma (12) , Shelbourne Geoff (12) , Pablo Supreme (14) , Power Of God (14) , Quail Hollow (16) , Young Sid (20) , Paradise Martini (25)

Glad i held fire. 4s Phoenix with Power. Dunno whats a good time at Tralee but bang there on trial form with others, isnt he? Dont think the track will be a problem. Surely can only come on for his trial. Was flying at the end of 480m Monmore, admittedly against a probable short-runner though. However, sure he can keep up a good gallop over 503m, unlike Rioga and Pa, as already mentioned. Strong favourite in my book. Dont think Power of God and Geoff quite up to his class, but that's only my opinion. Think he could almost win by default, but i rate him very highly anyway, a serious tool!

How do wides do at Tralee?

No idea. Think he's a superb all-round middle to wide runner anyway. Doubt very much any of his rivals could win a Derby consolation anyway

Does anybody know if Bubbly Phoenix is staying over here (maybe with Reilly) or travelling back and forward? I persume they would take up the offer off an International place or a Champion Stakes place before the Derby so until September his whole campaign would surely be over here.


Without being rude to those dogs that ran in that race Derby Final night i think almost every single dog in this competition is capable of winning that race.

Not so sure PF. They could do but i doubt as impressively. True, Boher Paddy and Jaytee Pedro were knocked about but 28.22s on normal going for Phoenix by nearly 8 lengths was some performance

Good Luck, he has a big chance but he is on the short side to me around there

Thanks. Take your point PF but think nearly all of them in the same boat with little track knowledge. Phoenix has done enough for me though just to have a few quid on. Like i say, struggling to make convincing cases for bulk of them

woody..did you take the hills 33's on bubbly p for next yrs derby??  was the early one thats stood out so far looking at the prices 

when he pinged derby final night, it just rubbed salt into the starting to gape wounds.   

Will be punting Droopys Jet to win out - 6s think on the big side!

Brgds
Johnny

lanza 21 Jun 12 23:30 
woody..did you take the hills 33's on bubbly p for next yrs derby??  was the early one thats stood out so far looking at the prices

when he pinged derby final night, it just rubbed salt into the starting to gape wounds


It was a strange feeling when the boxes opened alright, obviously delighted as he was my biggest bet by far Derby night but i knew he was on his way to a massive run and was gutted it wasn't 2 races later

Is Diva running or not? Fortune article on IGB dated today says is, and she is in the IGB racecard !!

Taking there time with these results, Bubbly Phoenix won anyway i was told

just checked my app and it says Razldazl Rioga won, the other lad says it says Bubbly Phoenix on his

WTF

Rioga beat Power Of God a head with Phoenix 3rd in 29.74

Geoff beat Jet with Vic in 3rd

29.67 2nd semi final

Final Draw:

1 RAZLDAZL RIOGA
2 BALLYMAC VIC
3 DROOPYS JET
4 POWER OF GOD
5 SHELBOURNE GEOFF
6 BUBBLY PHOENIX

So wide open the final is imo, everything would be happy enough with the draw bar Power Of God who would rather be closer rails

rioga .....  FAw,RlRi

.... which suggests if he didnt rail on the run in he would not of won... which is total bowlocks as he was still ahead at the pick up

Race Of Champions - Winner  2012-06-30
Favourites:    Razldazl Rioga (11/4) , Droopys Jet (7/2) , Shelbourne Geoff (7/2) , Bubbly Phoenix (9/2) , Ballymac Vic (7) , Power Of God (7)

Had a look of card what's with the times?
Final in the middle of the card, bitchs race 11 odd shame like one there!
Front runner track to me rioga to lose I think,
what happened to sid showed early , middle pace lack off looked to go lame in major way final bend hope he's ok
Done a lot running of late being such a lame dog anyway!
Bubbly needs a ping think he be more suited to shel!!

Young Sid broke his hock

Shocking

So what's our take on the final?

Razldazl Rioga 3/1
Ballymac Vic 7/1
Droopys Jet 4/1
Power Of God 8/1
Shelbourne Geoff (w) 5/1
Bubbly Phoenix (w) 4/1

Best prices available betting to 105%


I think a few of the runners are decent prices in this.

Razldazl Rioga is just favourite with most firms and has his trap 1 draw. He will again be looking to come away well and build up a big advantage with his brilliant early and middle pace but 550y is as far as he wants to go. It is crucial he leads and while he is well drawn there is big early in the race, 3/1 looks about right i thought.

Droopys Jet is another with good early and he will need to show it here if he is too clear Ballymac Vic and Razldazl Rioga on his inside and Power Of God on his outside will move rails run up. The draw looks tough for Jet to me so he will need his best start but he is priced fairly at 4s.

Ballymac Vic in 2 can start a lot better than he did in the semi finals and if he does the 7/1 could look big. He ran very well i thought when not leading and i think he is a bit too big. The worry is he has big early pace either side of him so really needs to smash out but still the price is on the big side.

I don't fancy Power Of God from 4, he loves the rails and i can't see how he leads those inside him from here.

Bubbly Phoenix has his 6 box here but he has to come away a lot quicker than he did in the semi final and even at that i thought he was close enough out of the 2nd to Power Of God and didn't make that much ground up, he doesn't interest me even at 4/1.

Shelbourne Geoff ran a blinder in the semi finals showing brilliant pace 2 to 3 and staying on well after a good start. I really like his draw here as Power Of God will move left from 4 and he has the beating of Bubbly Phoenix to the corner on semi final evidence. Once leading up Bubbly Phoenix he should turn in a decent position and to get after the pace setter probably Razldazl Rioga and i think he has a massive chance of back running them, he back ran Droopys Jet in the semi final and i'd say he is stronger than Razldazl Rioga over 550y so i feel he could back run either and they look the most likely leaders. I think he is big value at 5/1.


Shelbourne Geoff @ 5/1

Rioja for me , but more interested in seeing the race tbh

You heard it here first. This is going to be a rerun of the English derby. There will be trouble between the fast starters on the inside, 6 will go round them and he won't be coming back

watching both heats I think
cashen mafuma was very unlucky
550 shelbourne would suit better
wonder if he go for derby, just lacks a yard of toe!
it's funny seeing jet show early where at Wimbledon he got lead silly!
Same goes with Geoff
it's going to be a good meet for sure

Has the 9/2 Bubbly Phoenix gone? Can only see 4/1 on Oddschecker. Phoenix was soon well in arrears and crowded most of the way. With a better break, reckon he should push the fast Razldazl Rioga in the final. Slightly surprised Shelbourne Geoff was a length quicker than Rioga. He did well to pip Droopys Jet, who keeps going

.....Bubbly Phoenix will win..look at how he used to leave traps and how he left traps in his semi final they showed on sky..he will break much quicker and could lead all the way.....

****nose what your going on about Shane !
Why do you come on here ?
You ain't got a Danny?
Your unable to chat about dogs to anyone on here?
There allways some statement you leave or calling card which is bollox, are you to far gone can we help?

my view the dog will have to go bingo, he could lie off the pace but he was close anaf last week with out getting to rioga,
as a result I can't call this race it's too hard, all six dogs can win this on his day! rioga record from one speaks for its self

Rest of the card looks good done some homework hope it pays off can't wait for Saturday

For me bubbly p never be that good here needs more of a run up lay all day for me Geoff looks ew bet gl

sorry for being well late... to answer pf's question, no i dont think phoenix is staying at ian's (at least that wasnt the plan). travelling i think

Are there any prices out yet for the other Saturday night races?

Be late Friday afternoon with 365 trying to be smart they just give a tenplate for the rest to copy ! there aways right them selfs
Than the rest though out Saturday morning but cos it Irish racing again who knows the firm copy each other ain't got Danny !

I've got one I fancy pretty strong
The other if the price is right
Auto be diffent
would love to see a big race put on from down under or states
Somethink diffent talking point too! No pig racing ****! Just gayhounds

Bet365 look to be the only firm out with early prices for tomorrow night. Any value anywhere?

8.10 - Crinkill Cowboy @ 3/1 (Love the draw on the fence for him and think he will lead up the inside and lead around as he should have enough early to hold Heady Days. Usual Story the fav out in 4 could have a tough time getting a run as Homestead Royal in 5 went up well in the semi finals and will move rails as will the bottom. I think the top is a big price and can lead all.)

8.50 - Newlawn Tock @ 5/2 (Good draw and can break a lot better than he did in the semi finals. With a better start he can get the better off Lisnakill Ross this time and lead into the back. Droumeragh Padre will come home well but if Newlawn Tock hits the front i don't see them back running him.)

9.30 - Dear Pa @ 7/2 (Comes away level leads up and leads all. He should have the pace up to clear Kilbarry Rover on his inside and Saleen Bob on his outside doesn't trap that well but has massive pace but i find it hard to see him leading Dear Pa. Paradise Martini needs to fly out from 4 and will have Cashen Mafuma edging in on him and Mafuma will do well to clear Martini unless he walks out. Pablo Supreme could have a decent draw here but really need to come away to get a good position. I think Dear Pa is a huge price.)

10.10 - Shelbourne Geoff @ 5/1 (reasons already posted on the thread.)





I was going to post this too as Spoilsports where supposed to be going these prices but seems they are not now, i'm sure they will say it was a missprint in the RP but their supposed market came to 120% and it looked an almighty rick to me.

9.50 - Newlawn Martini @ 9/2 + Barrack Patsy @ 3/1 [saver] (I struggle to see any other winner. Newlawn Martini has the best draw, flew out in the semis and showed big pace up and will surely get a solo to the corner. If she leads around she will be very tough to beat and the only bitch that can back run her in my opinion is Barack Patsy. Barack Patsy is the fastest in the race and the best bitch i'd say but i'm slightly worried about her draw outside of Crossfield Tina. If she clears her early she is a huge danger to the bottom and the most likely winner but she will have a job to do so.)

Newlawn Martina @ 3/1 + Barack Patsy @ 5/2 [saver]

I made tock a cracking bet tonite he be very short on track
I was hopeing for a balls up but 5/2 fair be more like 5/4!

Thought Crossfield Tina worth a chance clad in red!

She'd need Patsy to get trouble

8.10 backed the 6 dog paddy the pricer, think it has a chance of leading out wide and should get a clear run with 5 moving middle

I believe it is a horrible morning down there, hopefully it clears up

.....usual story.....

.....lisnakill ross.....

.....kilbarry rover.....

.....crossfield tina.....

.....bubbly phoenix.....

........Shaneboy you been LOBOTOMYSIZED.........

he don't like my bets then

Calling Irish experts. With books like 105, 103 x 2 and 104 percent over-round on some Sky races, what are the rogue prices. Apart from the final, think i've only heard of Newlawn Tock, Dear Pa, Cashen Mafuma and Crossfield Tina. Cheers

Got at say pats dog there had no luck in running at any stage almost got a run at the last bend but door closed again that was almost a price wise wonder pick
look out for that next time

And oioi tock winners 5/2 crazy price 5/4 on the off!

sky rolls into town and the tracks on fire same last week ?

can't wait for the final

Sky + Sunderland so watch that late tinite cut the crayford bosh off while giveing the babs a bottle

sorry Shane for pisstaking I've been

Dear pa had draw of draws didn't have the pace going round the second bend there every chance with the break
Mafuma wants rails mad I like the dog but at shelbourne it's going too need rails in the derby that won't happen so ? Him putting him my derby tream!

How much arse Can sky kiss f f s

oioi Tina  happy I saw somethink in the vids
**** love Irish greyhound racing on sky!
two did some running but we know why after the line folks!

not been watching but i take it there is a rails bias at Tralee?

BOOM

irishone • June 25, 2012 6:32 PM BST
Rioja for me , but more interested in seeing the race tbh

Again jeff just not up to it
Fear for bubbly derby backers I'm one of them just ain't got the pace early!

Ballymac vic looks a tool!

wide dogs not gripping? or mega fast strip on the rail?

Lets hope the owner gets the prizemoney

Well done to the winner which are greyhound fans
Great race great meet to be fair even with best dressed!

Ballymac vic look a ringer for JFK same face!

Jayfkay trialled 28.28 in Shelbourne tonight


A bit of a poxy night, managed to limti the damage with Newlawn Tock and a few quid on El Miller in Tralee.

Crinkill Cowboy, Barrack Patsy and Stay Thirsty (SPK) all 2nd, Dear Pa almost around the bend but not far enough clear of Kilbarry and Shelbourne Geoff getting no run (ain't watched it again but think he caused his own problems moving in)

coral  £15 max ballymac vic 33/1 **** firm they are

28.28 going some but mildean super star to better that not by much but it's a shot fired to the rest!

trials for show - races for dough

trials meant absolutely nowt

Do any traps apart from 1 2 3 win at Tralee ? The facilities look great but the track itself looks like a gaff track. They could have spent some money relaying it and making it bigger and wider

Nowt spot on but wellbeing that's what you want to know at this stage befor champ steaks and derby!

Out of interest what dogs from the outside did we expect to win last night??

Race 4 - 6 railers, 5 and 6 both badly drawn and both 10/1

Race 5 - 5 a (m) at 12/1 (5th) and 6 a (w) at 10/1 (3rd)

Race 6 - 5 a (w) at 7/1 (2nd) and 6 a (w) at 10/1 (4th)

Race 7 - 5 a railer at 11/2 (2nd) and 6 a (w) at 16/1 (3rd)

Race 8 - 5 a railer at 5/1 (3rd) and 6 a (m) at 7/1 (6th)

Race 9 - 5 a railer at 16/1 (4th) and 6 a (m) at 3/1 (3rd)

Race 10 - 5 a (w) at 5/2 (4th) and 6 a (w) at 4/1 (6th)



Of those dogs Newlawn Martina was expected to go better but she has to lead in my opinion and when failing to do so was always going to struggle to win. Shelbourne Geoff got plenty of trouble from 5 in the big race (on first viewing i thought he made his own problems). Bubbly Phoenix looked to run below par but that doesn't mean the track was running on the outside in my opinion, there could be many reasons (may not run the track that well, travellijg back and forward could have taken more out of him than thought etc....).

I've been told Tralee doesn't suit wides by people so it wasn't really a shock to me but even then not many of the dogs drawn 5 or 6 where expected to win.

Thanks for that analysis Premier. Include Rossie in the next race too :(

Hindsight is a great thing but Bert was originally down to run at Tralee.I thought at the time the track would really suit him and was surprised they went to Sunderland instead. Does anybody know if he is all right ? I thought it was shocking that rptv totally ignored the incident and didn't even try to get an update

He done his hock, multiple breaks. His owner said he was not too bad through the night (a model patient) and is off to the vet at 3 today.

The reason he didn't go to Tralee was he had a problem after the Derby final and he wouldn't have been able to get a trial pre the comp in time so he decided against it.

PF is right, owner says he picked up spike pad Derby night and the first vet that treated it did not get the problem sorted properly so had to go to another vet and then ran out of time prior to Tralee.

Wish the first vet had done his job right :( and Bert would be still racing. There you go, sliding doors

Is the Race Of Champions online anywhere?? I only got to see it once (should have sky plussed it) and the vids are not up on the igb site for Tralee yet.

Missed it last night. Been trying igb all morning. By all accounts Rioga wasnt that well away. Find it a bit surprising he got home over 503m, in that case, judged on Wimbledon evidence. PF, dya think Dolores will re-think going for the Derby now instead of the Laurels? Last but not beaten far Phoenix. Was looking for a big run with the Derby in mind, hope it was just a case of Tralee not suiting and hope also he's kennelled over there when it comes to Dublin

Tralee suits Rioga just as Curraheen did, i hope he misses the Derby again this year and goes for the Laurels but sure we won't be getting big prices for the Laurels like last year. I'd say she will let him take his chance in the Derby this year.

Cheers for that! . I believe Panther and JFK flying in trials. Think Shaneboy was touting JFK. Must admit, he hadnt been in my top fancies for the Derby this year. What's your take on it?

Trials for show - Races for dough. Although you do like to see them go well in trials to show their well being.

Jayfkay was only a spot slower than Milldean Panther but he had trialled the last 2 weeks as well so i'd say it's fair to expect more improvement from Panther of the 2. He'll trial in Dundalk next week.

The next few weeks there will be dogs flying around in trials, next week we will have dogs trialling in preparation for the Champion Stakes the week after and then Thur 26th (usually a special Derby trials session) and Sat 28th in preparation for the Derby.

Thanks. Been planning my trip. Ear-marked a b&b, just waiting for cost of flights to dip. Supposed to be meeting a friend there and last time i went, spent the evening on the terraces with one of Connor's ex-kennelhands. All went pear-shaped after McGuigan beat Big Mike but came back in great style with the last two winners. Loved it. Not keen on the 5 euro per pint though!

Yeah it's the best night of the year. It's great the amount that come over from England/Scotland/Wales now, Harolds Cross does be heaving on the Friday night for the 1st round of the Puppy Derby and Derby Final night is mental packed. The price of beer is a joke over here but sure the thieving bastards ain't going to change that

Will have to take it easy this year final night (yeah right), we fly out on holidays the next morning. The last time we did it to Vegas early the next morning i've no idea how we got on the flight as we stayed up the whole night on the beer and where an absolute mess We will try and take it easier this time

€4.85 a pint now woody and your sterling buys a lot more than it did a couple of years ago.

€4.85 a pint now woody and your sterling buys a lot more than it did a couple of years ago.

IGB why are nt the vids up yet!

Every little helps. I've toyed before with staying up all night in Temple Bar and catch the early flight back to Manchester, but worth getting my head down for a few hours for the sake of a £28 guesthouse

If Rioja gets 1 in any other final he's a gift over here but if he dont get one ................!

Would you believe Rioga has only won twice from trap 1 over here from 4 races. However the 2 defeats where over 550y at Shelbourne and he didn't get home.

He is good enough to win from other boxes (6 in the Laurels final) but he must get a solo to the bend. I'm still not convinced he stays well enough to win the Derby (if they go for it), all the strong dogs seemed to get in each others way last night.

He'd have an absolutely massive chance of defending his Laurels crown, i think Curraheen over 525y is perfect for him.

Still no bloody vids up for Tralee, would love to see the big race again

I swear he was running under the rail in places and if he had not of railed so well he would have took a bump

He's a brilliant greyhound, one of my favourite at the moment and was bitterly disappointed he didn't go all the way at Wimbledon. It's a pity they changed all the races at Shelbourne to 550y a few years ago, imagine if the Gold Cup and Easter Cup was still 525y, he could have bagged both of them too.

I can't wait to see if they go the same route as last year and miss the Derby to keep him fresh for the Laurels or let him take his chance this year.

Suppose we dont know what Dolores will do for certain, but i was going to go in for 50/1 Paddy Power i saw on Oddschecker, but when logged on, actually it was only 25/1 on the website, so i passed. Dunno if anyone got on?