Eden Star's record

Win it.

Dogs an absolute tool, dont understand why he isnt fav....

Got lucky with the draw!
Got lucky sky does not seem its self? Mybe
But ****ing hate red with that kink in the rail one good win from red all weekend that came from off the pace!
Eden star was unreal to half way but how good was he from half way to the line?

Eden didnt get lucky with the draw Fatty. Better from T2 or T3. Always edges off slightly wearing red. Could be close to evens each of 2 with Sky just favoured in the market, but reckon brute force will see Eden brush Sky early and lead up, hold on. Just everything crossed, fingers, toes, legs and even eyeballs both qualify. That's the theory anyway!

have you backed eden have you woody?

Eden Star wins his races in the first 150 meters, done see anything wrong with that....not sure why the dog gets knocked, his record is second to none

Hills have gone...

Taylors Sky 6/5
Eden Star 11/8

Eden Star withdrawn lame at 2.03pm

That's afwul news, whether you where with Eden Star or against Eden Star nobody wants to see his Derby campaign end like this. Feel sorry for his owner / owners and the Drapers

Gas Oven or rope for me.............50/1 to win a bundle :(

Awful luck mate

Sorry for the dog and connections as well.

if you backed him with hills u get your money back as a free bet

cant be fairer than that

if you backed him with hills u get your money back as a free bet

cant be fairer than that

How much more luck can the taylors lot get, perilous draw turns into a gimme 5 dog heat after getting all the draws to win it last year.  Horrendous for connections having done everything right by the dog.  Taken a huge gloss of the whole event now.

agree duke, personally not their biggest fan, that is very very very sad news. huge condolences to everyone associated with the dog. also feel sympathy for those that punted him, having your conkers on and not being beaten on merit. has definitely taken a shine off of the event.

desperate news,gutted for punters and connections,the derby wont be the same without him in it for sure,without being negative about taylors,who is one of the best dogs ive ever seen,this would have been his ultimate test,at last.

lee h2     30 Apr 12 15:14 
if you backed him with hills u get your money back as a free bet

cant be fairer than that


Even bets from months ago??

are u sure. as he wasnt knocked out

kate miller has tweeted it

check it out yourselves

Sad news of Eden Star's withdrawal. As a gesture we will refund ante-post bets with a free bet to reinvest and have another go (T&Cs apply)


Doesn't say what they are though?

Perhaps the T&C are it doesn't apply to winning punters

On flip side how's the dog gone lame after one or two runs this year?
Wrapped up all winter? Sad news but the derby rolls on think Eden and sky would of tangled up!

im afraid it only takes one run to go lame fattie

i think twice on his card he had ckd 1st recently at don?

All bar one they auto target that with him!
Only say that they have history running there good hound over there!

Its a shame without a doubt , thought it finished poorly and said so on here, has the woody bok struck again ?

Writing was on the wall when he got beat by long wood

Hills free bet terms

As include gesture of goodwill, Eden Star will now be included in the first round free bet promotion, where all customers who placed bets on the non-runner after the entry stage on Thursday will receive a refund.*

** Max Stake £100 , Free bet voucher must be used on the Greyhound Derby Ante Post book, valid until the first heat in the 2nd round**

Thats a decent offer, gutted for connections, I thought this dog was the second coming

So does the free bet offer include ante post bets or not?

Hills free bet terms

As include gesture of goodwill, Eden Star will now be included in the first round free bet promotion, where all customers who placed bets on the non-runner after the entry stage on Thursday will receive a refund.*

** Max Stake £100 , Free bet voucher must be used on the Greyhound Derby Ante Post book, valid until the first heat in the 2nd round**

Those taking the big prices ages ago will be very sad

The highlighted text seems to suggest not, but others have stated it includes ante post bets?

William Hill ‏ @racingkate
Sad news of Eden Star's withdrawal. As a gesture we will refund ante-post bets with a free bet to reinvest and have another go (T&Cs apply)
2:47 PM - 30 Apr 12 via web

Sure its been a long time since so many greyhound enthusiasts have been disappointed. I only had a score on at 33/1 early last July, could have won just £680, but not the first time and wont be the last a strong ante-post favourite scratched. I remember Boher Paddy in the Steel City only last year.

Could have a similar bet Ballymac Eske 33/1 also for next 2013 Derby but yet another runner Farloe Warhawk may not be too far behind that irresistable puppy, out at Hove on Thursday! . Still, once bitten...

Eden was my best bet of the year but hoping it can be made up for
COME ON CITY!

Favourite was he the fav last Friday! thought sky was if I'm pickie!
Woody draper luck in Derbys ain't been great past few years in Scotland Ireland or here
Your asking for a lot! Next year!

absolutely gutted but however much you've had on him,and believe me I've had plenty, you've got to feel so sad for owner and trainer who will be hurting as much as the dog. They've laid him out brilliantly and hopefully the dog comes back firing and goes onto prove himself to be one of the best seen. Shelbourne might not suit as much and the trip might be just to far (he gets 500m/550yd at Sheff though) and the run to the bend shorter but the Drapers do like a crack at an Irish pot - Thurlesbeg Joker springs to mind. a week between rounds will help too.

Whatever they do lets hope we see plenty of him across the rest of the year.

absolutely gutted but however much you've had on him,and believe me I've had plenty, you've got to feel so sad for owner and trainer who will be hurting as much as the dog. They've laid him out brilliantly and hopefully the dog comes back firing and goes onto prove himself to be one of the best seen. Shelbourne might not suit as much and the trip might be just to far (he gets 500m/550yd at Sheff though) and the run to the bend shorter but the Drapers do like a crack at an Irish pot - Thurlesbeg Joker springs to mind. a week between rounds will help too.

Whatever they do lets hope we see plenty of him across the rest of the year.

Re word that derby finals!!

Bandit he need a taxi m8!

There a nice sprint com that suit him in Ireland!

The Bar One Sprint at Dundalk over 400y i persume ye are talking about. Cracking Man was 2nd in it last year, it's ran late July into early August i think.

Mancini aggro Mancini aggro, ello ello, Mancini aggro! lol .

4/9 Mancini, 2/1 Ferguson, over 10 rounds! .

Seriously though, we have the Premiership in our own hands now

fukcing unbelieveable.
Gutted.

Addy, told you we should have lumped on the City (Premiership) Chelsea (Champions League) double but no kind hearted soul worked me out best combined odds, as i'd so politely requested.

Now City have wrapped up the Premiership , back to dogs.

Fatty, i didnt mean favourite literally and from a price point of view, but from being alot of people's favourite, or people's most hoped for Derby winner.

Sure the scratching being a shame, is the only thing Irishone and i have ever agreed on.

Dont think Eden needs to be going to Ireland. Plenty of pots for him to plunder up to 480m when he's recovered and fit again

Oh, must be a fairly bad injury though if they've had to withdraw him 4 days prior to Friday

Of course Eden Star does not need to come to Ireland but if you are looking at options for where he could reappear i think Fatties suggestion is a good one. 400y at Dundalk would be no problem to him and Cracking Man went close to winning it last year. €20,000 to the winner, €5,000 to 2nd, €2,500 to 3rd, €1,250 for 4th, €1,000 for 5th and €750 for 6th. I can't think of many competitions over in England bar the Sunderland Classic that will be run for that sort of money and the Drapers are not adverse to having runners over here.

the trial showed many people all was not right and many had him as a lay accordingly......the moment was the reason for the opposition not any reflection on his ability.....sadly the layers were right and the dog was not fully sound....shame

Think i heard Eden clocked the fastest to halfway, that was the minus 30 night and not normal going like Phoenix the previous night. Desperately unlucky, imo. Could have another crack next year, but really thought he had a tremendous chance this.

Maybe the Pall Mall could be a target. Showed he can fly round small tracks well for a big dog at Romford. Sunderland Festival possible also.

Not sure about the Irish Sprint. 2 bends galloping track could be okay but think Edens optimum trip a not too testing 4 bends. The money could be the thing though but i wouldnt like to see him being messed about coming and going over the pond.

PF, having just said that, do you know if any big prizes in the Night of Champions at Tralee for Eden. Dont know the track, would it suit Eden?

dont know why steve and becky get knocked so much i put it down to people are jealous of them

last year at monmore first round of gold cup my son 7years old went up and asked steve if he could stroke taylors sky as it was his favourite greyhound he aranged it after the race and again after the semi final. when taylors sky won the gold cup final steve and becky came looking for my lad and asked if he would like to go and collect the trophy with them and charlie lister he has got the picture on his bedroom wall.
in 20 years of watching greyound and going the tracks it was the nicest gesture id ever seen so like i said people who knock them either dont know them or are just jealous

defo not jealous.

he had a pop last year quarter final night, had a pop the other week about people not seeding their dogs correctly which was a bit uncalled for, and a couple of years ago she went a bit billy about taylors riviera apparently not getting the respect she deserves and people knocking her, despite most felt she was the best marathon dog about at the time. for me i think they are both incredibly arrogant, infinitely more jealous of the mortons who have homebred superstars on a production line.

addy i make my own opinions and was just saying what they did was very nice

i also got told i shouldnt of shook his hand after sky won the derby as he was in charlies camp and i was in another camp wont tell you what i said to that as the words wont post on here

lol fair enough PP, yes, does sound a lovely gesture, i might think about cutting them some slack lol

Dont know the guy other than say hello to, but he always acknoledges me. Think he's just passionate about his dogs as any owner would be. Maybe he is a bit outspoken sometimes but we all can be on occasions. Believe he wasnt well and not all that long out of hospital. I wish him well and a quick return to full health anyway

pp,is it right that someone in your camp did "venture" into the other camp,so to speak?

im not in any camp just own dogs with who i please when i please and pay for the privilage
got the wheels in motion for a smart pup yet to decide the trainer but got 3 in mind one i know the other 2 i dont but impressed me the last 9 months