Sad too see

Probably needed the run..not be out since East Anglian Derby

theres needing the run and there is being outpaced by v moderate dogs!! tonight look truelly awful.

Dont underrate Eye Eye Pickle time eas faster than Farloe Lee etc. Pickle has beaten Badicoot Tipoki etc.

many a dog have beaten tipoki!! but pickle isnt in same class as a half fit reason!! typical wallis though i guess, had pickle fully wound up tonight

In spite of your knocking Mark Wallis just happens to be champion trainer who trained the Derby and Leger winner. What do you want??
Tipoki won13 and 2nd 6 out of 22 races. Mind you I think Farloe Reason is the only dog to beat him twice.

after watching the last race at notts 9-22, safe to say charlie got something wrong with the dogs at mo, another that didnt lift a leg

can you give a bit of feedback on the race and the winner?

Very slow winning time 30.50 Jamie 30.92 That Mark Wallis trained the winner.

'any reason why slower? just lower standard than some of the other trial stakes tonight or anything else?

Knockout may be able to explain the time. Winner had a clear run Jamie met crowding.

I am not a huge fan of Pickle but plenty of better judges are. I would be very surprised if 'tonight was the night' for him.

hello kf, welcome back ;)