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kincsem
14 Jul 25 16:16
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Report doorman99 July 14, 2025 7:51 PM BST
Lowry or Rose
Rose top English
Report HoratioNelson July 14, 2025 7:59 PM BST
My first five darts have landed on..

Dechambeau
Hovland
Cantlay
Clarke (W)
Echavarria
Report CaptainCristy July 14, 2025 8:29 PM BST
Burns,Taylor,Henley,Spaun
Report CaptainCristy July 14, 2025 8:50 PM BST
I’ve just seen that Coley has tipped Henley & Taylor, that kills their prices Cry
Report kincsem July 14, 2025 8:53 PM BST
Aldrich Potgieter at 290s
Report verbotene liebe July 14, 2025 10:52 PM BST
Cantlay
Hovland
Fowler
Thriston Lawrence
Report alfee July 15, 2025 8:45 AM BST
LugViG AberG

JusTin RoSe

ViKtoR HoVlanD

ToMMy FleeTWooD

AnToinE RoZneR

NicK TaYloR
Report paulo47 July 15, 2025 9:22 AM BST
Somebody must have tipped JT Poston as now 300 from 560 .
Report LoyalHoncho July 15, 2025 8:53 PM BST
I’ve thrown a little at him too kincsem.
Report LoyalHoncho July 15, 2025 9:39 PM BST
Potgieter out with Koepka and Sam Burns at 09.47.
Report LoyalHoncho July 15, 2025 9:48 PM BST
Some very tasty looking threes.
Schauffele, Spaun and Rahm at 09.58.
Lowry, Morikawa and Scheffler at 10.09.
McIntyre, Dechambeau and Rose at 14.48.
McIlroy, Thomas and Fleetwood at 15.10.
Report kincsem July 16, 2025 1:12 PM BST
My one bet is Stewart Cink at 1000.

Age 52
He leads the 2025 GIR stats on the PGA Champions tour 77.78%
Cink has played three years on that tour, 2023, 2024, 2025.
Cuts made in three years 27/27.
2 1st, 2 2nd; 4 3rd. 21 top 10s.
Driving distance rank 2025: 2nd. 303.6y

He has played in 25 Open championships.
Best major results: 3rd Masters; 3rd USPGA; 3rd US Open; 1st Open

In 2001 Cink double-bogied the 72nd hole in the US Open to miss the playoff by a shot.
He missed a 20 inch putt to get into the playoff.
Report alfee July 16, 2025 1:27 PM BST
Won Me 28K IN 2009------Just the £3 on this time
Report kincsem July 16, 2025 1:30 PM BST
alfee
Nice win. Love

I like a bet on the Open.
I had a few close ones:
Thomas Bjorn (2nd) 250 win; 100 place at 100/1
Niclas Fasth (2nd) 66/1 and 40/1
Report LoyalHoncho July 16, 2025 2:44 PM BST
Good knowledge kincsem.  Impressive Cink form.  Have just noticed - kinc likes cink!
Terribly sorry!  Blush
I remember when Hale Irwin missed the ball FROM AN INCH on the 72nd to miss the play off one year.  For whatever reason he looked up as played the putt and hit fresh air.  I think Watson beat the Aussie who lost his arm to plane propeller, Jack Newton, and Wayne Grady maybe?
Report LoyalHoncho July 16, 2025 2:46 PM BST
I can still see Bjorn’s misery.  Dreadful.  Yours couldn’t have any more so.
Report LoyalHoncho July 16, 2025 2:50 PM BST
To go back to Potgieter - in that very Open I just mentioned Bobby Clampett at 22 and in his first Open shot 67 and 66 to lead by five at halfway.
Who knows?
Report the bairn July 16, 2025 5:48 PM BST
that was at Troon Honcho, I was there that year, cheers.
Report LoyalHoncho July 16, 2025 6:05 PM BST
Cheers bairn.  I take it you still take an interest?
Report sevey July 16, 2025 9:59 PM BST
Stuart Cink 3/1 Top Senior Looks fair Value
Report LoyalHoncho July 16, 2025 10:59 PM BST
FYI.  Richard Teder an Estonian,  is one of the nine amateurs teeing up this week. He qualified courtesy of an eagle, holed from the fairway, during a final qualifying play off at West Lancashire.  Not many do that when it’s needed, do they?  No national titles but he has won three times on the amateur circuit this year.
Report saxon farm July 17, 2025 1:34 AM BST
Tender should have qualified in normal time with a par at 18, but whipped it out of bounds on the last,
Report LoyalHoncho July 17, 2025 1:37 AM BST
Thanks for that.  Some people are just born lucky I suppose.
Report sageform July 17, 2025 8:00 AM BST
Not many household names teed off yet. Are they allowing the Americans to have an extra hour in bed to compensate for the time zone? Very early days but this course should suit the Scandinavians.
Report SHROPSHIRELAD July 17, 2025 10:29 AM BST
Weather turning sour
tougher  going for those teeing off later?
Report LoyalHoncho July 17, 2025 11:07 AM BST
Schauffele underclubbing.  Two in a row.  Up and down ok first time.
Report LoyalHoncho July 17, 2025 11:12 AM BST
Weird.

They’ve moved the 16th tee forward by twenty yards - during play.  Originally 236 yards.
Report CaptainCristy July 17, 2025 11:45 AM BST
Scheffler looking totally fed up like he can’t be arst.
Report cool_hand_luke July 17, 2025 12:29 PM BST
how much you laying him for?
Report CaptainCristy July 17, 2025 12:40 PM BST
Won’t be backing him, how about you Wink
Report cool_hand_luke July 17, 2025 12:45 PM BST
I dont think he will be outside top 10, he has the best short game of the top players and doesn't give much away, much rather back than lay.

Problem with the Open, is it becomes a weather lottery

Good Luck
Report LoyalHoncho July 17, 2025 12:48 PM BST
This win market is deranged.  Sungjae Im doesn’t tee off for an hour and his price has gone out from 300.0 to around 400.0.
People anticipating bad weather the reason?
Report CaptainCristy July 17, 2025 12:54 PM BST
More to do with Rahm, Scheffler & Schauffele all getting off to steady starts.
Report LoyalHoncho July 17, 2025 12:55 PM BST
Right.  Thank you.
Report LoyalHoncho July 17, 2025 12:59 PM BST
No fairway bunkers on the 10th.  Fringe rough looks very benign.
Report LoyalHoncho July 17, 2025 1:06 PM BST
More market mania.
Keegan Bradley backable at 180.0 last week, layable at 120.0 two days ago, now back out to 180.0. to back!  Laugh
Report ALIEN SEX FIEND July 17, 2025 1:22 PM BST
Sorry I know the question was who will win, I thought this used to be on BBC...is thus more savings? How long before Wimbledon goes?  And still the TV license will go up. Might as well give a selection Tommy Fleetwood e/w
Report TCat July 17, 2025 3:16 PM BST
laid Rory for a tenner for a bit of interest on the back of the weather forecast - they reckoned he would have the worst of it. Low and behold the sun's out as they walk down the first fairway ! Grin
Report LoyalHoncho July 17, 2025 3:28 PM BST
Good luck to you both.
You can get little broadcasts of slightly delayed action on the Open website.  They select the threeballs but you at least get a look at the prevailing conditions that all have to face at the time.
No need if you have Sky of course.
Report dr . atkins July 17, 2025 3:44 PM BST
draw bias in play perfect conditions for the players from 3pm
Report TCat July 17, 2025 4:38 PM BST
given the perfect lie Rory found when he hit the ball into the crowd on the 4th, perhaps laying him wasn't the wisest move ! GrinAngry
Report Kelly July 17, 2025 5:11 PM BST
Rory needs to adjust his stance .  To date everything has gone left.
Report Kelly July 17, 2025 5:11 PM BST
Perfect conditions now compared to earlier.
Report Kelly July 17, 2025 5:40 PM BST
Tuesday and Wednesday the guys were nearly all driving the 17th, wind assisted , downhill. Today it looks like most are hitting 9 irons for their second , different wind .
Report TCat July 17, 2025 7:03 PM BST
Amazed Rory is under par as his play off the tee has been woeful; lucky the rough isn't too punitive.
Report CaptainCristy July 17, 2025 7:31 PM BST
Been a long time since an English winner
Report CaptainCristy July 17, 2025 7:45 PM BST
Deshambles embarrassing himself.
Report LoyalHoncho July 18, 2025 10:49 AM BST
McIntyre looks vert frustrated.  Seems to be getting a bit nippy?
Report LoyalHoncho July 18, 2025 12:56 PM BST
He needs to go into a training programme too.  Getting a distinct belly.  Not good for a top pro.
Report cool_hand_luke July 18, 2025 8:53 PM BST
McIntyre is very similar to Brian Barnes, just needs a caravan and 12 Special Brews
Report stewardsenquirey July 18, 2025 10:28 PM BST
Daley and Montgomerie were hardly gym bunnies-but I would say they had fairly lucrative careers.
Bit like saying Littler needs to lose weight-Why?
Report LoyalHoncho July 18, 2025 10:53 PM BST
Sorry to cause offence.  Keep eating the double-doners Rab.
Report stewardsenquirey July 18, 2025 11:09 PM BST
Laugh
No offence takenSilly
Just interested in your thought process that everyone needs to be ripped to play golf.
Now if you don't mind I'm going back to my family pack of crisps and 2 litres of fat coke,
Have a good night Crazy
Report LoyalHoncho July 19, 2025 12:04 AM BST
Nice one.  Love
Report LoyalHoncho July 19, 2025 1:58 PM BST
Sungjae Im HOT!  Just wish he’d managed ut a day earlier.  Sad
Report Platini July 19, 2025 2:57 PM BST
Scottie drifted 15 ticks already since last night.
Report LoyalHoncho July 19, 2025 3:58 PM BST
Meaningless for me.  The only one capable of beating him imv is Rory, who is trying hard.  But for me it is in Scottie’s hands already.
Report LoyalHoncho July 19, 2025 4:01 PM BST
Wow!  What has Im done - back down to 300.0.
Go Im Go!
Report LoyalHoncho July 19, 2025 4:40 PM BST
The 16th and 17th are such hold up holes.  A lot of waiting about.
Report LoyalHoncho July 19, 2025 4:56 PM BST
Hole in one layers gutted.  Very helpful flag posi on the 13th.
Report Des Pond July 19, 2025 5:25 PM BST
A heads up for anyone who hasn't got Sky/BT and knows their way around VPNs using decoy USA zip codes etc, there is a service called Peacock TV offering a free 3 month trial. They have (to the best of my knowledge) The Open Golf and over half of the EPL games - including 3.00 pm Sat Kick offs. Apparently it's fairly straight forward to do as long as you have a VPN and know how to set up a US google account. I'm not tech savvy, so I'm stil trying to work it out, but if you already have a VPN you should be able to get 3 months for free.
Report LoyalHoncho July 19, 2025 5:27 PM BST
Thanks Des.  Always helpful.
Report Des Pond July 19, 2025 5:40 PM BST
Most of my hopefuls didn't even make the cut, but,..

The usual tenner on Scottie and:

My trusty old standby has come to my rescue yet again. Don't know what I'd do without Scottie. Grin
Report LoyalHoncho July 19, 2025 5:48 PM BST
Has Rory really scored two eagles yet still can’t make much impression?
Report LoyalHoncho July 19, 2025 5:51 PM BST
No.  They’ve had an eagle apiece, which explains all.
Report Kriskin July 19, 2025 7:01 PM BST
A non event and it's only Saturday.  Looks like a one horse race tomorrow
Report Clerkmore July 19, 2025 7:55 PM BST
I'd say Scottie's biggest problem is making sure not to hit into a group of Rory supporters. He might never see his ball again!
Report LoyalHoncho July 19, 2025 8:54 PM BST
Laugh
Report Insideshrewdie July 20, 2025 3:23 PM BST
SS has been outstanding...the other lot should hang their heads any chellenge just folded within an hour!
Report LoyalHoncho July 20, 2025 4:59 PM BST
Rory’s fans on a tight leash today.  No balls finding alternative momentum to escape the rough?
Report JerryHatrick July 20, 2025 6:10 PM BST
It's obvious from his interview last week that he is able to take away emotion from his job
And it is just a job to him, I'd be surprised if his bpm got over 60 during any round of golf
He said he only gets a few minutes ecstasy from winning a major! WTF!
It's like the bog cleaner who wins the lottery and then is back plunging huge turds out of a public loo the next day
Report LoyalHoncho July 20, 2025 6:30 PM BST
SAF said much the same thing about his successes.  The  deep satisfaction of trophy winning only lasted five or so minutes for him.
Report black shuck July 20, 2025 6:40 PM BST
Waste of a jug..someone else mighta been chuffed and proud for life not 2 minutes
Report JerryHatrick July 20, 2025 6:46 PM BST

Jul 20, 2025 -- 6:40PM, black shuck wrote:


Waste of a jug..someone else mighta been chuffed and proud for life not 2 minutes


But they don't win because emotion takes over

Report black shuck July 20, 2025 6:54 PM BST
I prefer humans..ai man bores me
Report LoyalHoncho July 20, 2025 7:59 PM BST
Agreed Jerry.  The guy is awesome.  He was in total control all week, of everything bar the weather.  One of the top echelon of Open winners for me.
Report JerryHatrick July 20, 2025 8:14 PM BST

Jul 20, 2025 -- 7:59PM, LoyalHoncho wrote:


Agreed Jerry.

Report frames July 21, 2025 8:22 AM BST
Never expected to see another potential Tiger spell of golf in my lifetime , the Scheff is an incredible player.Four majors in 4 years and you get the feeling he is just warming up.I can only see injury stopping him adding another 8 in the next decade ,He says his favourite things about what he does is competing and most of all practicing , that's a bit worrying for the rest.

He will never be as popular as Tiger , he obviously does not want to be but at the moment his golf is as impressive as the great man in his prime.As with Tiger he hits the front and it's game over ,I would like to see him win from a few back on Sunday.

Xander's interview was honest yesterday and I am sure the rest think the same ,it's Tiger all over again and when they see Scotties name at the top 2nd is the best they can do.

He is brilliant.
Report CaptainCristy July 21, 2025 1:06 PM BST
There is a lot of hype involved with this. I remember when Spieth and Thomas were supposedly going to win multiple majors, downturn in form and they are no-where near it these days. It wouldn’t take much for the same to happen to Scheffler.
Report kincsem July 21, 2025 2:43 PM BST
CaptainCristy

I agree with you.
The king is always defeated.
There is a young unknown amateur who will kick Scheffler's ass in about five years time.

Scheffler has about five or six more years.
Niclaus had seven majors by age 27, 12 by age 33, 14 at age 35.
Scheffler has four majors at age 29.
Report frames July 21, 2025 4:07 PM BST
Time will tell.

No one can be compared to Tiger but Scottie is the closest but has to do it for another 10 years which is unlikely , not sure about Spieth and Thomas comparisons,don't recall them.Spieth and Thomas have been world No.1 for 30 weeks combined , Scottie is 149 weeks and counting.

Good to see you still banging the Jack drum Kinsem,Tiger won 7 by age 26 and 14 by age 33.Blatantly obvious injury stopped him reaching 20/25.

Scottie has won 10 on trot when holding the 54 hole lead , he needs to reach 37 to overtake the greatest.
Report LoyalHoncho July 21, 2025 4:51 PM BST
And won his last at 46.  Jack won 18 and came second in at least a dozen more.
Scottie isn’t even 30.  He should look at David Duval to see how irreversible damage taking a break can do.
The fact remains that Tiger didn’t catch big Jack’s total.  To say he would have beaten Jack’s haul is pure conjecture, and will always remain so.
I had overlooked just how good McIlroy’s record in Majors actually is.  More than thirty top ten finishes. That is stupendous consistency.
Report kincsem July 21, 2025 7:19 PM BST
I don't play the drums.Plain

In the ten years 2009-2018 Woods played 28 majors and missed 12 majors.
He won zero majors in that run of 28 starts.
I assume he was healthy if he started.
After his 15th major win in 2019 he started in another 15 majors and did not win.
I assume he was healthy in those 28+15 = 43 majors he started but did not win.
Report frames July 23, 2025 7:52 AM BST
After his 15th major win in 2019 he started in another 15 majors and did not win.
I assume he was healthy in those 28+15 = 43 majors he started but did not win.

In total since 2019 he played 20 events ,15 of which were majors as you say.Might have got away with it in past eras but not this one.
Report frames January 26, 2026 8:12 AM GMT
Since Rory suggested to Scheffler he goes to a mallet style putter he has won 16 times in 38 starts , the doubters must be dwindling.Only injury stops his dominance.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- January 29, 2026 7:59 PM GMT
Likely tiger was overgolfed as a kid which cost him
in stress injuries on his body as he got older.

https://puresportsmed.com/blog/posts/youth-athlete-development-and-overuse-injuries/

..

Of course his dad wouldn't be aware of this
and maybe they are still finding out true costs
to youngsters in later life.
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