The average fairway width [at Shinnecock] in 2004 was 26.6 yards, the narrowest 25 yards, the widest 30 yards," he says. "The average now is 41.6 yards. That's 15 yards wider, a full 50 percent.
Seems odd they are so much wider than before.
The average fairway width [at Shinnecock] in 2004 was 26.6 yards, the narrowest 25 yards, the widest 30 yards," he says. "The average now is 41.6 yards. That's 15 yards wider, a full 50 percent.Seems odd they are so much wider than before.
but prior to that it was a lot wider not quite like the farce of last year so they have made it a lot more of a test off the tee than how it was initially set up which is good to see in my book best major for me when it is set up to test the players
but prior to that it was a lot wider not quite like the farce of last year so they have made it a lot more of a test off the tee than how it was initially set upwhich is good to see in my bookbest major for me when it is set up to test the players
Shinnecock traditionally had tight fairways this year they are 50% wider than 12 years ago. At a time when players are hitting the ball further so in comparison to the 86, 95, 04 opens the fairways will be wider but the players hitting it longer. Personally I would prefer to see a more traditional set up with a premium on hitting the ball accurately rather than allowing more forgiving fairways which will surely benefit the bombers.
There is a lot of talk about the distance the ball goes but if fairways went back to being less wide then there would be more of a premium on hitting it straight.
Agree last year and chambers bay were both a farce.
But they have done the opposite JohnnyShinnecock traditionally had tight fairways this year they are 50% wider than 12 years ago. At a time when players are hitting the ball further so in comparison to the 86, 95, 04 opens the fairways will be wider
what you say is correct M W BUT prior to Floyd getting in touch with that guy they had in mind to have the fairways a fair bit wider than what they are now i would like them to be a yard wide with 10 foot rough beyond that that would sort out these pampered feckers it's still a top course that will not be a pushover a la the BS pitch & putt type courses that hold sway most of the season
what you say is correct M W BUT prior to Floyd getting in touch with that guy they had in mind to have the fairways a fair bit wider than what they are nowi would like them to be a yard wide with 10 foot rough beyond thatthat would sort out these pa
40 yards is still pretty wide, not really a test of driving skills
i dont remember playing courses with 40 yard wide fairways,
the us open has gone through a lot of changes looking for a stern test but never quite found it for me.
get them narrowed, get graded rough, get some proper bunkers, stop making it impossible to hold the ball beside the pin if you hit a good shot
40 yards is still pretty wide, not really a test of driving skillsi dont remember playing courses with 40 yard wide fairways, the us open has gone through a lot of changes looking for a stern testbut never quite found it for me. get them narrowed, ge
Had some bad luck in recent years the USGA. Last year was a disaster when it rained, made the wide open Erin Hills defenceless. Rain got them at Oakmont as well where they were predicting a +5 winner and rain got them when Rory won. With 40 yard fairways they better hope it doesn't rain or Shinnecock will get smashed as well. If that happens the tech debate will really heat up.
Had some bad luck in recent years the USGA. Last year was a disaster when it rained, made the wide open Erin Hills defenceless. Rain got them at Oakmont as well where they were predicting a +5 winner and rain got them when Rory won. With 40 yard fair
Very difficult to say Jedi. DJ is the right fave for me, but geez single figures at some books feels a little skinny. Tiger too short for mine, laid him and Rickie so far and backed Burns at 1000 to win 100 grand, I like the kid.
Very difficult to say Jedi. DJ is the right fave for me, but geez single figures at some books feels a little skinny. Tiger too short for mine, laid him and Rickie so far and backed Burns at 1000 to win 100 grand, I like the kid.
I'm still..'doing the Duff', ie 'taking the huff' but this price strikes me as an approximate of fair value...GLTA! (I bet Palmer picks Rory which would make him a great short term 'buy to sell'.)
Rory McIlroy 17 €10.00 €160.00I'm still..'doing the Duff', ie 'taking the huff' but this price strikes me as an approximate of fair value...GLTA!(I bet Palmer picks Rory which would make him a great short term 'buy to sell'.)
the last time tiger played in the us open he was terrible. however around then he was consistently bad, whereas in his comeback this time he's played extremely well for the most part.
his weakness at the moment seems to be the putter. misses lots of short putts which would be a worry if he is involved on the final day, however apparently this is a ball-strikers course and poor putters can win (goosen was the last winner here) so I think he has a very good chance.
apparently you also need good scrambling skills around here as well. fowler is also tempting however the thing that plagues me is the idea that he's still having trouble getting over the line in majors- can also say the same about hideki.
spieth also on the radar for me as he seems to be the man these days to step up to a plate when majors come around- he seems to play a lot better when majors come around, which you can't say about most players.
the last time tiger played in the us open he was terrible. however around then he was consistently bad, whereas in his comeback this time he's played extremely well for the most part.his weakness at the moment seems to be the putter. misses lots of s
btw I don't think tiger is a bad putter, of course. just that doubt any putting issues will let him down, if he putts well this week he'll have an even better chance.
btw I don't think tiger is a bad putter, of course. just that doubt any putting issues will let him down, if he putts well this week he'll have an even better chance.
btw I don't think tiger is a bad putter, of course. just that doubt any putting issues will let him down, if he putts well this week he'll have an even better chance.
btw I don't think tiger is a bad putter, of course. just that doubt any putting issues will let him down, if he putts well this week he'll have an even better chance.
turned it into a park with the wide fairways ffs, was looking forward to a brutal us open but now its wider fairways and the course has been softened with rain, ffs what a let down
turned it into a park with the wide fairways ffs, was looking forward to a brutal us open but now its wider fairways and the course has been softened with rain, ffs what a let down
Today should be ideal drying conditions - warm and breezy. Tomorrow should be a little cooler and less windy in the afternoon but still dry. Might be good to have a morning tee time today
Today should be ideal drying conditions - warm and breezy. Tomorrow should be a little cooler and less windy in the afternoon but still dry. Might be good to have a morning tee time today