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Back at the daddy of european courses, Valderrama which is Alejandro Canizares home course
He is in decent form, plays well in Spain and on tough courses and is a much better golfer now than when he posted good finishes on this course previously
40's looks good value
3's top 10
He is in decent form, plays well in Spain and on tough courses and is a much better golfer now than when he posted good finishes on this course previously
40's looks good value
3's top 10
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backed Johnson,Morrisson und kaymer in play this morning
cashed out for a bit of green
will lose out a fair bit if Morrisson nicks it
but they can all wobble and course is still not easy
cashed out for a bit of green
will lose out a fair bit if Morrisson nicks it
but they can all wobble and course is still not easy
Catch Me ifyoucan • April 13, 2016 11:45 PM BST
Zach, Fitz & Kirk
with
Sergio
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Zach, Snedeker & Kirk
with
Sergio & Kaymer
& ew treb with
Jimenez & Kenny Perry.
Would take two top 5's at this stage...nerve rackin watchin these, especially on a real golf course
Zach, Fitz & Kirk
with
Sergio
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Zach, Snedeker & Kirk
with
Sergio & Kaymer
& ew treb with
Jimenez & Kenny Perry.
Would take two top 5's at this stage...nerve rackin watchin these, especially on a real golf course
a johnston excellent with the irons, putting not so good.
Sergio has choked in a multitude of ways on the course over his career. He has reached the final frontier here, literally choking is the stuff of legend. Even the Buffalo Bills could never dream that one up.
Serg - Five under today (3 better than the field) is some round
Yesterdays 75 from Garcia was the hiccup this week
yeah,from off the pace with no attendant pressure
put him in last cpl of grps
would be more likely 5 over
dyed in the wool waste of space
put him in last cpl of grps
would be more likely 5 over
dyed in the wool waste of space
Coltart cracks me up...'the German,the Englishman,the Frenchman etc'
This WILL be some up-n-down from Sergio Garcia to win
Some talk a few years ago, that one of the US Majors (USPGA I tink) would move to Europe ?
good course for the US Open
wouldn't need to be tricked up much
wouldn't need to be tricked up much
Kaymer's become an uber bottler
if he can't win this
don't think he ever will again
if he can't win this
don't think he ever will again
There was talk but haven't heard much since. Australia would be the best, but time zones for TV viewing would never let it happen. Valderrama would be awesome, no Royal Melbourne, but still awesome.
if Johnson had had some putts drop he would've hosed up
Valderrama would be awesome, no Royal Melbourne - Played both and not much in it (if anything).
think the prevailing conditions have aided big andy
in as much as it has been a survival of the fittest(not girth wise)
and his missed putts haven't cost him
as he's played well from tee to green
he's unlikely to win on lower scoring courses unless he holes more putts
in as much as it has been a survival of the fittest(not girth wise)
and his missed putts haven't cost him
as he's played well from tee to green
he's unlikely to win on lower scoring courses unless he holes more putts
JOHNSTON looks like some southern redneck - would you let your sister out with him ?
if a major goes abroad most likely to be to china or the middle east
Disagree Mighty. I actually think the UK or Canada would be in pole position. No way the yanks take a major to the middle east and China would represent the same timezone issues Australia would.
should only ever be 4 majors
i'm a traditionalist in that respect
but i suppose the PGA could be moved elsewhere
maybe rotationally
i'm a traditionalist in that respect
but i suppose the PGA could be moved elsewhere
maybe rotationally
Redneck Johnston fails to get up-n-down OR goes in the water ?
ANDREW - Affectionately referred to as Beef, he started the 2015 season with a bang by finishing third in the Alfred Dunhill Championship in December 2014, just a month after he was crowned the 2014 Challenge Tour Number One.
An eighth top ten of the year at the Grand Final in Dubai confirmed his position at the head of the Rankings, capping a fine season in which he won twice, at the Scottish Hydro Challenge hosted by Macdonald Hotels and Resorts and at Le Vaudreuil Golf Challenge.
Provided one of the most-watched moments of the 2015 season when he had a hole-in-one at the BMW PGA Championship and ran towards a friend in the crowd for a chest-bump celebration. Missed the cut in the tournament but left clutching the keys to a brand new top-of-the-range BMW M4.
Brought more entertainment at the Aberdeen Asset Management Scottish Open in July, when he holed his second shot on the 18th hole of the third round, then mimicked the trademark sword celebration of Miguel Angel Jiménez, with whom he was playing. The wedge shot from the fairway was later voted the European Tour Shot of the Month for July.
Earned a maiden European Tour campaign through the 2011 Challenge Tour Rankings, only to struggle with form and fitness for the next two seasons before bouncing back in style in 2014. Started playing golf aged four after his father, a single figure handicapper, took him to a field to hit balls and joined North Middlesex Golf Club shortly after. Climbed through the amateur ranks to represent the England Boys team, winning the Boys Internationals in 2007, before turning professional aged 20. Is an Arsenal fan and a keen follower of basketball.
Knew I didn't like him, now I know why
An eighth top ten of the year at the Grand Final in Dubai confirmed his position at the head of the Rankings, capping a fine season in which he won twice, at the Scottish Hydro Challenge hosted by Macdonald Hotels and Resorts and at Le Vaudreuil Golf Challenge.
Provided one of the most-watched moments of the 2015 season when he had a hole-in-one at the BMW PGA Championship and ran towards a friend in the crowd for a chest-bump celebration. Missed the cut in the tournament but left clutching the keys to a brand new top-of-the-range BMW M4.
Brought more entertainment at the Aberdeen Asset Management Scottish Open in July, when he holed his second shot on the 18th hole of the third round, then mimicked the trademark sword celebration of Miguel Angel Jiménez, with whom he was playing. The wedge shot from the fairway was later voted the European Tour Shot of the Month for July.
Earned a maiden European Tour campaign through the 2011 Challenge Tour Rankings, only to struggle with form and fitness for the next two seasons before bouncing back in style in 2014. Started playing golf aged four after his father, a single figure handicapper, took him to a field to hit balls and joined North Middlesex Golf Club shortly after. Climbed through the amateur ranks to represent the England Boys team, winning the Boys Internationals in 2007, before turning professional aged 20. Is an Arsenal fan and a keen follower of basketball.
Knew I didn't like him, now I know why
YES had one hand on the Trophy.....Garcia presents it to KAYMER !
VERY tough up-n-down - will do well not to go in the water OR leave it short
BIG fuc up by Martin - stareing at birdie - ends with bogey
think money will talk with majors moving abroad rhino. At the moment the rest of the world can't get the money together for a wgc event.
Possible that the PGA could be rotated especially if the PGA tour continues to develop their satellite tours.
Possible that the PGA could be rotated especially if the PGA tour continues to develop their satellite tours.
PLAYOFF - Garcia presents the Trophy to HIMSELF !
Apr 17, 2016 -- 2:16PM, Catch Me ifyoucan wrote:
putt given
are ye serious knees knocking heart thumping this is pressure
Catch Me ifyoucan • April 17, 2016 12:45 PM BST
Would take two top 5's at this stage...nerve rackin watchin these, especially on a real golf course
Would take two top 5's at this stage...nerve rackin watchin these, especially on a real golf course
johnnythebull • April 17, 2016 1:16 PM BST
Kaymer's become an uber bottler
if he can't win this
don't think he ever will again
Kaymer's become an uber bottler
if he can't win this
don't think he ever will again
Your might be right johnny - muckin donkey - although he's still young and a German !
well done Johnston I had Luiten and Kaymar but good to see a new guy win, well done
ANDREW JOHNSTON looking forward to the Arsenal vs Crystal Palace match later.
The host course this week is Centro Nacional de Golf, the Spanish Golf Federation's headquarters, situated in the northern suburbs of the capital city. Madrid is a fine location to re-start the 2018 European Tour, which will continue to cross continents for the next few weeks before settling into a summer of European destinations.
The Leading Contenders
Jon Rahm
There is every possibility that Rahm will gobble this course up. He's knows it well enough, having played it whilst studying in Madrid (it was his golf based in the city). If he can cope with the jetlag after his journey from Augusta, he ought to feel a little like a thoroughbred horse which narrowly failed to overcome a slow start in a prestige race and is now faced with lower grade opposition on an easier track. Teed it up in five regular European Tour events last year: finished top 15 in four, won two.
Rafa Cabrera Bello
One of the rare players in the field who has played in all three top level events hosted by the course, but he'll want to forget every visit! He missed the cut in 2006 on the Challenge Tour, repeated it on the main circuit in 2007 and whilst T43 in 2009 he only once broke 70 in a free-scoring week. All of that said, he's a very different golfer nine years on. T3 in the Mexico Championship reads well against this field, opened with a 69 at Augusta on his way to T38. His 35th stroke play start in Spain yet oddly still yet to beat the T4 he posted on debut back in 2002.
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Paul Dunne
Andrew Johnston
Matt Wallace
Dean Burmester
The Leading Contenders
Jon Rahm
There is every possibility that Rahm will gobble this course up. He's knows it well enough, having played it whilst studying in Madrid (it was his golf based in the city). If he can cope with the jetlag after his journey from Augusta, he ought to feel a little like a thoroughbred horse which narrowly failed to overcome a slow start in a prestige race and is now faced with lower grade opposition on an easier track. Teed it up in five regular European Tour events last year: finished top 15 in four, won two.
Rafa Cabrera Bello
One of the rare players in the field who has played in all three top level events hosted by the course, but he'll want to forget every visit! He missed the cut in 2006 on the Challenge Tour, repeated it on the main circuit in 2007 and whilst T43 in 2009 he only once broke 70 in a free-scoring week. All of that said, he's a very different golfer nine years on. T3 in the Mexico Championship reads well against this field, opened with a 69 at Augusta on his way to T38. His 35th stroke play start in Spain yet oddly still yet to beat the T4 he posted on debut back in 2002.
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Paul Dunne
Andrew Johnston
Matt Wallace
Dean Burmester
Although it is pleasing to an Orish man Paul DUNNE leading
Open de Espana 3 Balls
09:38 Adrian Otaegui (3/4) Bradley Dredge (8/5)
10:10 Thorbjorn Olesen (4/6) Marcus Fraser (7/4)
10:19 Gregory Bourdy (11/10) Felipe Aguilar (11/10)
10:28 Jason Norris (2/1) Erik van Rooyen (4/7)
10:37 Victor Pastor (9/5) Renato Paratore (8/13)
10:46 Jeff Winther (4/5) Pep Angles (6/4)
10:55 Jonathan Thomson (15/8) Matthias Schwab (4/5)
11:04 Alexander Bjork (13/10) Seungsu Han (10/11)
11:18 Charlie Ford (11/10) Samuel Del Val (13/8)
11:27 Ashun Wu (6/4) Hideto Tanihara (10/11)
11:45 Pedro Oriol (7/5) Maximilian Kieffer (1/1)
11:55 Andrew Johnston (4/7) Bradley Neil (5/2)
12:05 Jacques Kruyswijk (5/4) Marc Warren (11/10)
12:15 Jorge Campillo (10/11) Aaron Rai (11/8)
12:25 Andy Sullivan (8/11) Brett Rumford (30/17)
12:35 Henric Sturehed (5/1) Jon Rahm (2/7)
12:45 Nacho Elvira (13/8) Paul Dunne (4/5)
09:38 Adrian Otaegui (3/4) Bradley Dredge (8/5)
10:10 Thorbjorn Olesen (4/6) Marcus Fraser (7/4)
10:19 Gregory Bourdy (11/10) Felipe Aguilar (11/10)
10:28 Jason Norris (2/1) Erik van Rooyen (4/7)
10:37 Victor Pastor (9/5) Renato Paratore (8/13)
10:46 Jeff Winther (4/5) Pep Angles (6/4)
10:55 Jonathan Thomson (15/8) Matthias Schwab (4/5)
11:04 Alexander Bjork (13/10) Seungsu Han (10/11)
11:18 Charlie Ford (11/10) Samuel Del Val (13/8)
11:27 Ashun Wu (6/4) Hideto Tanihara (10/11)
11:45 Pedro Oriol (7/5) Maximilian Kieffer (1/1)
11:55 Andrew Johnston (4/7) Bradley Neil (5/2)
12:05 Jacques Kruyswijk (5/4) Marc Warren (11/10)
12:15 Jorge Campillo (10/11) Aaron Rai (11/8)
12:25 Andy Sullivan (8/11) Brett Rumford (30/17)
12:35 Henric Sturehed (5/1) Jon Rahm (2/7)
12:45 Nacho Elvira (13/8) Paul Dunne (4/5)
Crickey, Andy Sullivan started 5over thru his first 9 holes in RD1, and then went 18 under for his last 45 holes to sit at 13under - 4 back of PAUL DUNNE
Had to take a bit of Sturehed...here..22's BS just too big...hasn't birdied the easiest hole 1st yet and worth a go from 2 back playing with Rambo
i have gone for Elvira for a bit of interest and to hopefully get Dustin stake back and give me some money to get involved in the pga tour later
Best of Luck mengmeng totally guesswork for me here...related to the price...he won when in contention before...and he's too young to be scared...likes fast cars so might be keen to earn some dosh...as I said, total guesswork
GSM now to Rahm. What a terrible shot by Elvira on 17th. Very amateurish
What price was Rahm before tournament...I never looked at it?
He was 5 at the off. Opened up slightly bigger than that.
Thank's ....too short for me but look's good now ...very easy trapy course
he owes a big thanks to Beefy for finding his ball in earlier round, he was just about to go back to the Tee under penalty,but Beef found ball and it was plugged in rough so he also got a free drop lol. very very lucky
BACK TO MADRID.....but the host club this year is the old fashioned Club de Campo Villa de Madrid (at altitude).....
SIX Spanish players in the T10 at this venue last time.
Sergio knows this course much better than defending champ (Rahmbo), and with current (and Spanish) form - he's the one Andrea Pavan has to beat.
SIX Spanish players in the T10 at this venue last time.
Sergio knows this course much better than defending champ (Rahmbo), and with current (and Spanish) form - he's the one Andrea Pavan has to beat.
PALMER's Players to note
Adri Arnaus....The Spanish youngster has great potential and has quickly established himself as one of the strongest ball-strikers on the circuit. Putting is his weakness.
Jorge Campillo....The Hassan Trophy champion was awesome in the spring, but the Spaniard's form has tailed off, with results of 73-MC-MC-33-MC-MC from the Scottish Open onwards.
Andrea Pavan....The Italian form horse, BMW International champion in June, can boast finishes of 25-3-16-12-46-10 from his last six tournaments and will expect to contend.
Adri Arnaus....The Spanish youngster has great potential and has quickly established himself as one of the strongest ball-strikers on the circuit. Putting is his weakness.
Jorge Campillo....The Hassan Trophy champion was awesome in the spring, but the Spaniard's form has tailed off, with results of 73-MC-MC-33-MC-MC from the Scottish Open onwards.
Andrea Pavan....The Italian form horse, BMW International champion in June, can boast finishes of 25-3-16-12-46-10 from his last six tournaments and will expect to contend.
The tree-lined, undulating track has small greens and some stunning views over the city of Madrid.
The Javier Arana designed Black Course at Club de Campo Villa de Madrid has hosted 11 European Tour events in the modern era – the Spanish Open in 1990, 1991, 1994, 1995 and 1996, then the Madrid Open from 2001-2005, and the Madrid Masters in 2008, which was won by Charl Schwartzel at 19 under par.
The lowest winning score has been 11 under par and Raphael Jacquelin reached 23 under when winning the 2005 Madrid Open, so the European Tour stars face a relatively easy assignment this week.
There are only three par-five holes – the fourth, seventh and 14th – but all are there for the taking with straight hitting.
And three short par fours – the eighth, 15th and 18th – are also great birdie opportunities. The 505-yard par-four first hole is the most challenging, while the third and the 11th are par threes which will not yield many birdies.
The Javier Arana designed Black Course at Club de Campo Villa de Madrid has hosted 11 European Tour events in the modern era – the Spanish Open in 1990, 1991, 1994, 1995 and 1996, then the Madrid Open from 2001-2005, and the Madrid Masters in 2008, which was won by Charl Schwartzel at 19 under par.
The lowest winning score has been 11 under par and Raphael Jacquelin reached 23 under when winning the 2005 Madrid Open, so the European Tour stars face a relatively easy assignment this week.
There are only three par-five holes – the fourth, seventh and 14th – but all are there for the taking with straight hitting.
And three short par fours – the eighth, 15th and 18th – are also great birdie opportunities. The 505-yard par-four first hole is the most challenging, while the third and the 11th are par threes which will not yield many birdies.
My goodness... Jon on the Rahmpage in Spain again.
...Better than Seve was too
...Better than Seve was too
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