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Report xmoneyx March 28, 2016 10:42 AM BST
fowler shot a 67 last round 2015,but first two rounds 73,72 put him ooc,still top 12 thou

hes vastly improved his driving/putting this year

lively contender
Report lewisham ranger March 28, 2016 10:49 AM BST
I always thought Fowlers finish at the players last year, the way he played the last few holes, that was without doubt major winning form

he wouldn't have been able to do that in the past but now he's proved he can get it done under pressure

I take the point about day, how do you stop him. I just get the feeling with him that he's very intense and it's very hard work, rory more talent but who will end their career with more majors? rory for me cus he can go through the gears, (well the fact that he's younger and has four to Jason's one is also a bonus) jason just one gear that's flat out all the way

just that it's a very good gear Excited
Report xmoneyx March 28, 2016 10:50 AM BST
39 last week on exchange--now 20sSad
Report xmoneyx March 28, 2016 10:52 AM BST
I do 6 outsiders 200+

a single

then a hail mary bet sunday if all are ooc
Report lewisham ranger March 28, 2016 10:59 AM BST
who's your outsiders? seems sensible

fowler gone off form slightly of late but just got a feeling he will peak form the masters

also jimmy walker worth a mention- usually wins all the mickey mouse tournaments then collapses like a damp squib in the majors, but I think this year he intends to peak for the big ones
Report xmoneyx March 28, 2016 11:05 AM BST
my list(waiting for better price)just 3 so far

lingmerth 300+
Jamie Donaldson 300 +
sang moon bae 650 +
Report xmoneyx March 28, 2016 11:06 AM BST
hate it when run away winner,unless your on
Report donny osmond March 28, 2016 11:30 AM BST
if day plays well then you'll need a good week to beat him, probably
4 good rounds, 16-20 under, and bottle to close it out

certainly narrows down the field of likely suspects if that were to happen
Report lewisham ranger March 28, 2016 12:52 PM BST
16-20 under though is unusual for the masters

I'm sure if he reaches that he will win, normally the winning score is around nine or ten under
Report donny osmond March 28, 2016 12:57 PM BST
they can toughen it up again but birdies are popular with the patrons
Report Mighty Whites 2008 March 28, 2016 1:07 PM BST
Reed (poor course record)

he has only played 6 competitive rounds! Finished 22nd last year
Report Mighty Whites 2008 March 28, 2016 1:08 PM BST
sang moon bae isnt playing xmoneyx
Report Mighty Whites 2008 March 28, 2016 1:10 PM BST
the winning score will depend on the condition of the course. If it is soft then 16 - 20 under possible if it is firm and fast then id take around -10
Report lewisham ranger March 28, 2016 1:19 PM BST
in the last 40 years I think there have only been 5 winning scores that have been 16 under or better

so if you get 16 under you win, basically

or very unlucky not toScared
Report lewisham ranger March 28, 2016 1:21 PM BST
I think they'll toughen it up this year, maybe make the pins very difficult for example, organizers will fear these big bombers tearing the course apart, they've already changed one of the par fives that bubba reached with a hit over the trees and a simple wedge.
Report Mighty Whites 2008 March 28, 2016 1:30 PM BST
they have bought some land but havent changed anything yet on 13.

If the course is soft i think the 16 - 20 under is very possible. Hopefully it will be firm and fast with a winning score around -10
Report therhino March 28, 2016 1:30 PM BST
Don't think the 13th has been lengthened yet lewisham, I've read they are buying land in order to have that option, but don't think that will be for this year. Hopefully they don't touch it. Pin positions rarely change from year to year, doubt they will tinker, especially the back 9 on Sunday pin positions. They won't lengthen the rough because there is no rough. Mighty is correct, all about hard or soft. It's up to the man upstairs how the course will play.
Report therhino March 28, 2016 1:32 PM BST
Great minds think alike Mighty, simultaneously too it seems Scared
Report therhino March 28, 2016 1:34 PM BST
Would be a travesty if they changed 13. Best par 5 in the world and they want to tinker because someone hit the best tee shot I've ever seen on it Crazy
Report Mighty Whites 2008 March 28, 2016 1:41 PM BST
they are considering changing it off the back of bubba's drive 2 years ago where he carried all the trees on the left and only had a wedge in!

They did change the course after tigers win in 97.

Its a shame how technology advances make holes and courses obsolete but unless they reverse things in this area it will only get worse.
Report lewisham ranger March 28, 2016 1:44 PM BST
would like to see tony finau around this course, not playing this year but some of the shots he hit yesterday were outrageous

just have a feeling this guy is going to go to the very top of the game. reminds me of dusty bin, a good short game and absolutely bombs it off the tee

speaking of dusty he's another one who should be on the radar for the masters, problem is at this rate I'll back half the field Scared
Report lewisham ranger March 28, 2016 1:51 PM BST
You are right Mighty, I think what we are seeing now is a domination of the bombers, that's why I can see someone like Tony Finau being a top five player in a few years for example, will just be dominated by the big guys.

I think Golf is in a good spot right now, but if people started hitting it any further it would be ridiculous, it would turn people away from the game, sadly manufacturers are just obsessed with length and developing equipment that enables golfers to hit a ball even further still, until the powers that be take a stand and say enough is enough, it will only get worse
Report donny osmond March 28, 2016 2:51 PM BST
dusty already hits it too far !
Report Mighty Whites 2008 March 28, 2016 3:42 PM BST
yes but he evens it up by hitting his wedges like most hit a 5 iron
Report donny osmond March 28, 2016 3:53 PM BST
only at the weekend mw ! Crazy
Report Mr Eboue March 31, 2016 7:12 PM BST
Great stat this one lads - 12 of the last 15 winners Masters were won by players who had a win within 10 starts of arriving at Augusta.
Report tim6 March 31, 2016 9:21 PM BST
like Zach Johnston think its his time
Report kincsem April 2, 2016 3:46 AM BST
My main bets is Smylie Kaufman  416.5  €202.54
He can hit, and he can putt.  He is a rookie.
Report Asparagus Man April 2, 2016 12:52 PM BST
Ski going 8 places e/w now
Report unclepuncle April 2, 2016 9:12 PM BST
Justin Rose looks value to me @ 32 on here - been very consistent at the top level for a few seasons and excellent record at Augusta.
Report lewisham ranger April 2, 2016 9:30 PM BST
agreed! fancy rose to get a green jacket sometime in his career
Report sickoflayinwinners April 2, 2016 10:24 PM BST
12/1bubba ew 8 places!!!! i n ever back him but i  had to  join in on this terms  with skybet
Report sickoflayinwinners April 2, 2016 10:48 PM BST
trying to get abit of 75 garcia obviously with a view trade(possibly before a ball is struck) but during the tourney if that provides better chances to do so
Report charwell. April 2, 2016 10:57 PM BST
Day will be hard to beat. He has no weaknesses and after a week off will be (hopefully!) fighting fit.

Unoriginal but 7/1 is a fair price I think. Of the rest I like the following (all BF win prices):

Rose 31/1

Oosty 37/1

Zach Johnson 69/1

Kooepka 79/1

Branden Grace 84/1

Dubuisson 349/1
Report twizzle22 April 3, 2016 8:26 AM BST
Bubba has to be backed @ 12s with Sky and the ponce as well @ 11s..8
Report xmoneyx April 3, 2016 11:43 AM BST
I've picked 6 outsiders,but not my nap

edging on fowler

he's diff gravy this year,driving,putting
Report unclepuncle April 3, 2016 2:44 PM BST
My longshot picks are Ryan Moore @ 180 and Rafael Cabrera Bello @ 250
Report lfc1971 April 3, 2016 2:59 PM BST
Paul Casey and Fowler for me. Just think Casey is as good as anyone with no real weaknesses.
Report xmoneyx April 3, 2016 5:30 PM BST
my two naps

fowler@19.5 to win 1kCool
oost@40 to win 1kCool
Report xmoneyx April 3, 2016 5:31 PM BST
if none in with a chance sunday

a hail mary bet for stake money backWink
Report Total Bosman April 3, 2016 7:24 PM BST
Can there ever have been a Masters with so many great players going in with such great form?
Report ellis April 3, 2016 10:28 PM BST
Report kincsem April 3, 2016 11:10 PM BST
I've kept it in single figure this year, only backed nine players. Blush
Report alfee April 3, 2016 11:32 PM BST
Spieth .
Report Back High Lay Low April 4, 2016 3:12 AM BST
45 year-old Mike Weir available at 5000-1 Blush
Report therhino April 4, 2016 8:16 AM BST
Watching the final round of 87. Geez the Shark copped one hell of a bad beat Cry
Report therhino April 4, 2016 8:54 AM BST
Get stuffed Larry.
Report rommel April 4, 2016 9:39 AM BST
what a bloated piece of awful americana its become-the crows nest,the par 3, the green jacket,-all of it,bet most players fckn dread it but theyve no choice really,some things just get too big
Report lewisham ranger April 4, 2016 10:27 AM BST
sergio might be underestimated here, 75-1, played very well a couple of tournaments back just lost out to scott who is far shorter in the betting tremendous ball striker obviously there's a doubt that he can get it done under pressure but surely he could turn out to be a very good back to lay in running.
Report rommel April 4, 2016 10:30 AM BST
didnt he do q well the other week sergio?but has just lost that sheen of a winner-you know not a contender in any real sense and this test really does test them
Report rommel April 4, 2016 10:48 AM BST
see rory mincer swerved the par 3 this year and i dont blame him-for the front runners/favs must be a bit wearing
Report unclepuncle April 4, 2016 10:51 AM BST
Sergio will be up there but he's the biggest choker around.
Report rommel April 4, 2016 10:53 AM BST
noooooooooooooooooooo sg will sink from the off imo
Report rommel April 4, 2016 10:53 AM BST
ha,fancy any biggies uncle?
Report therhino April 4, 2016 12:06 PM BST
Early money coming strong for Bubba. Jason has been sick again since the matchplay:
Report tim6 April 4, 2016 1:09 PM BST
Zach Johnston has to be thereabouts playing very well and can take the pressure also well done to Jim Herman last night did very well to hold his nerve
Report Fallen Angel April 4, 2016 3:39 PM BST
slybet offer of 8 places is phenomenal, especially when the field contains a lot of deadwood! backed Bubba at 12s with them when they first offered it up very fair
Report Can't Catch Me April 4, 2016 4:16 PM BST
Agree Fallen, unbelievable value. When you compare some of their odds with the top ten betting its massive value. Zach Johnson is the perfect example. Top priced 9/2 and generally shorter in the top ten market, yet 55/1 and quarter the odds top 8... Fantastic price imo.

My main bet is Adam Scott, decent saver on Day. Then ZJ as above and Charley Hoffman at 125/1, also 8 places.

Like the look of Rose top Englishman at 13/8 and top GB&Ire at 7/2 as well.
Report johnnythebull April 4, 2016 5:20 PM BST
if Spieth,Day or wee rors win i'll retire (dis)gracefullyGrin
wide open..can Adam S become the 1st tp prevail with the broomhandle and regulation putter?
won't be far away if the flat stick works..tends to throw in one bad round tho'
Charl fluked his win somewhat imho but has found some form and if HE gets the putter going has a real chance
DJ putted well this week..can he cut out the brainfades and nick a major?
Henrik..can he man up and do it?
Ben An got some talent..if he could cut down the dropped shots
Daniel Berger..guy's talented
as ever should be the b0llocks with some snatching defeat etc.
Report jedi sophie April 4, 2016 5:26 PM BST
What kind of stakes can you have with skybet chaps?would they happily accomodate you for 200 eway Scott for example?or more like 25 eway?
Report johnnythebull April 4, 2016 5:29 PM BST
imho they are total c*nts
yeah,their odds are egregiously good but when ur restricted to £0.1p on a 1/10 shot..well
Report jedi sophie April 4, 2016 5:31 PM BST
No point praisin them up givin them publicity if wont take a decent bet..farcical in my opinion.Just dont want to bother depositing then find out can get a tenth of what want to stake.£ days to get fukin cash back oot!
Report jedi sophie April 4, 2016 5:32 PM BST
3 days!
Report jedi sophie April 4, 2016 5:41 PM BST
Cannot believe Rory shorter than Spiffy! Bonkers. Availed myself,keep pushin im out chaps...
Report rommel April 4, 2016 5:59 PM BST
think spiffys gawwwn at the game
Report Si-K April 4, 2016 6:18 PM BST
I dont see anyone outside the top 6 or 7 winning it.

I really fancy Mickelson and Rory with phat Phil beating him
Report rommel April 4, 2016 6:22 PM BST
mcmincer will choke his way to missing the cut
Report jedi sophie April 4, 2016 6:26 PM BST
Gone at the game aye!Top 20 there in Houston and played terribly for HIM..Gone!Surprised
Report kincsem April 4, 2016 6:33 PM BST
Looking at the weather reports there was about two inches of rain on the 1st April (not joking), and maximum temp since is low 70s mid afternoons.
The course might be slow and favour Bubba Watson and other big hitters.
Although it was said the course was soft in 2015 shorter hitters like Spieth and Zach did well, so I'm guessing the course wasn't playing long.
Has anyone got any hard info on conditions?
Report kincsem April 4, 2016 6:44 PM BST
I've invested in Smylie Kaufman.
He is one of the long drivers in the field.  Check the driver stats on PGA Tour - distance to apex - and see the company he keeps.
Check Youtube for his eagle at a 295 par 4 using a 3 wood, and hitting into the back bunker at a 340 yard par 4 at Doral.
This year (his only year) .....  He closed with a 61 to win.  He tops the stats for consecutive birdies on par 3s - five !!!
My only worry is the occasion might get to him.
I'm fully invested so I'm no longer worried about losing the price.
Smylie, Smylie, Smylie, CoolHappyLove
Report Si-K April 4, 2016 7:00 PM BST
Taking up sky on their 8 places gone for 4 players longer odds tipples

200/1 Kirk
200/1 Donaldson
200/1 Cabrera
66/1 Kuchar

Kuchar has a very good Masters record and is playing well
Report lewisham ranger April 4, 2016 7:34 PM BST
if smylie kaufman wins the masters I will give up the game! Laugh

I know he's been in terrible form but if you want someone at that sort of price then you can do worse than kaymer, double major champion and 200-1 Scared

he's the sort of guy who can bounce back from nowhere

kuchar showed some decent stuff at the matchplay, problem is he hasn't yet shown that he has the nerve to get over the line in a major. putting goes under pressure.
Report rommel April 4, 2016 7:48 PM BST

Apr 4, 2016 -- 12:26PM, jedi sophie wrote:

Gone at the game aye!Top 20 there in Houston and played terribly for HIM..Gone!

till we see him capture that form over 4 days js,think hes worth laying

Report kincsem April 4, 2016 9:05 PM BST
lewisham ranger
if smylie kaufman wins the masters I will give up the game! Laugh

Sorry to see you go. Happy
Smylie has good recent form last month.  06/03/16 WGC Cadillac 8th; 20/03/16 Arnold Palmer Invitational 12th

In contrast Kaymer's 2016 form is lukewarm.   He did ok in the matchplay although lost 8 & 6 to Zach Johnson.
If Kaymer wins the Masters it will be the greatest comeback since Lazarus.
Martin Kaymer is a proven dud at Augusta.  Five missed cuts and 41st, 35th, 31st in eight attempts.  He plays Augusta like an 18 handicapper.
Report ifeellikemoney April 4, 2016 9:43 PM BST
Quality over quantity-


Small e/w on Zach
Report jedi sophie April 4, 2016 9:58 PM BST
Difference between Gone at Game and just being a lay!Presumably youd be happy to admit he isnt gone at game if finished a gallant second and you collect!GrinWouldnt lay him myself,not till SundayWink
Report lewisham ranger April 4, 2016 10:04 PM BST
rocket rors in sizzling form:
Report Can't Catch Me April 4, 2016 10:09 PM BST
Jedi. They let me have £50ew on Zach Johnson and Charley Hoffman which I was surprised at. But I never really bet with them so not restricted.
Report jedi sophie April 4, 2016 10:16 PM BST
Interesting CCM.May as well have couple of pops there and see what allowed.Only opened for Chelts.Like Zach bit myself but couldnt have Charley,actually on in Shell**** himself.Game disintegrated completely Saturday!
Bigger prices liked Kisner to go OK.three times price was six week ago!
Interesing see pairings too. Quite like to pile on all in a group where one of my main fancies Tees up, and get watch them a good bit if goin ok!
Report Rob_The_Bantam April 5, 2016 1:21 AM BST
I was allowed 3p e/w on Kuchar at 66/1.
Report Si-K April 5, 2016 1:36 AM BST
Blubba spent today in bed battling sinus infection. Rut Roh :p
Report kincsem April 5, 2016 1:50 AM BST
Thread title needs a 2016 in it.
Report kincsem April 5, 2016 3:32 AM BST
Report polab April 5, 2016 10:46 AM BST
I think Danny Willett is a cracking bet at 14/1 to be top European this week. He is playing some great golf and as long as the new arrival isn't a distraction I can see him being up there. As for the winner its Day, Fowler and Oosthuizen that carry my money.
Report therhino April 5, 2016 11:01 AM BST

Apr 4, 2016 -- 7:36PM, Si-K wrote:

Blubba spent today in bed battling sinus infection. Rut Roh :p

Source? Can't find a mention of this.

Report lewisham ranger April 5, 2016 12:49 PM BST
interesting thoughts expressed in this article and perhaps sobering for those for fancy reed to go well:
Report therhino April 5, 2016 12:52 PM BST
The punters want Fowler today
Report rommel April 5, 2016 1:16 PM BST

Apr 5, 2016 -- 5:01AM, therhino wrote:

Apr  5, 2016 --  1:36AM, Si-K wrote:Blubba spent today in bed battling sinus infection. Rut Roh :pSource? Can't find a mention of this.

sinus truoble mentioned on whill podcast rhino

Report alfee April 5, 2016 2:24 PM BST
When is the tee times due out ?
Report xmoneyx April 5, 2016 2:32 PM BST
Philip Reid ‏@philreidgolf  · 14m14 minutes ago 

Bubba Watson had sinus problems earlier in the week but is now on the practice range #alliswell #masters #bubba
Report jedi sophie April 5, 2016 6:07 PM BST
Wouldnt think Rory to happy ith that for a first round draw....Plum last!!deary me..
Report kincsem April 5, 2016 6:11 PM BST
8:05 AM Arnold Palmer (Honorary Starter) Gary Player (Honorary Starter) Jack Nicklaus (Honorary Starter)
8:20 AM 1 Jim Herman Steven Bowditch (Australia) 11:16 AM
8:31 AM 2 Trevor Immelman (South Africa) Robert Streb *Derek Bard 11:27 AM
8:42 AM 3 Larry Mize Victor Dubuisson (France) Kevin Streelman 11:38 AM
8:53 AM 4 Sandy Lyle (Scotland) Bernd Wiesberger (Austria) Vaughn Taylor 11:49 AM
9:04 AM 5 Webb Simpson Chris Wood (England) Thongchai Jaidee (Thailand) 12:00 PM
9:15 AM 6 Tom Watson Charley Hoffman Lee Westwood (England) 12:22 PM
9:26 AM 7 Zach Johnson Rickie Fowler *Cheng Jin (China) 12:33 PM
9:37 AM 8 Louis Oosthuizen (South Africa) Jason Dufner Patrick Reed 12:44 PM
9:48 AM 9 Jordan Spieth Paul Casey (England) *Bryson DeChambeau 12:55 PM
9:59 AM 10 Justin Thomas Emiliano Grillo (Argentina) Dustin Johnson 1:06 PM
10:10 AM Open
10:21 AM 11 Vijay Singh (Fiji) Hideki Matsuyama (Japan) Chris Kirk 1:17 PM
10:32 AM 12 Harris English Andy Sullivan (England) Kevin Na 1:28 PM
10:43 AM 13 Phil Mickelson Marc Leishman (Australia) Henrik Stenson (Sweden) 1:39 PM
10:54 AM 14 Justin Rose (England) Jamie Donaldson (Wales) Daniel Berger 1:50 PM
11:05 AM 15 Adam Scott (Australia) Kevin Kisner Brooks Koepka 2:01 PM
11:16 AM 16 Mike Weir (Canada) Cameron Smith (Australia) *Sammy Schmitz 8:20 AM
11:27 AM 17 Ian Woosnam (Wales) Troy Merritt Byeong-Hun An (Korea) 8:31 AM
11:38 AM 18 Darren Clarke (Northern Ireland) Billy Horschel Matthew Fitzpatrick (England) 8:42 AM
11:49 AM 19 Mark O'Meara David Lingmerth (Sweden) *Paul Chaplet (Costa Rica) 8:53 AM
12:00 PM 20 Keegan Bradley Brandt Snedeker Kiradech Aphibarnrat (Thailand) 9:04 AM
12:11 PM Open
12:22 PM 21 Charl Schwartzel (South Africa) Davis Love III Rafael Cabrera-Bello (Spain) 9:15 AM
12:33 PM 22 Danny Lee (New Zealand) Russell Knox (Scotland) Smylie Kaufman 9:26 AM
12:44 PM 23 Bubba Watson Branden Grace (South Africa) Ian Poulter (England) 9:37 AM
12:55 PM 24 Bernhard Langer (Germany) Hunter Mahan *Romain Langasque (France) 9:48 AM
1:06 PM 25 Jason Day (Australia) Matt Kuchar Ernie Els (South Africa) 9:59 AM
1:17 PM 26 Graeme McDowell (Northern Ireland) Fabian Gomez (Argentina) Scott Piercy 10:21 AM
1:28 PM 27 Jimmy Walker Soren Kjeldsen (Denmark) Anirban Lahiri (India) 10:32 AM
1:39 PM 28 Danny Willett (England) Sergio Garcia (Spain) Ryan Moore 10:43 AM
1:50 PM 29 Angel Cabrera (Argentina) Shane Lowry (Ireland) J. B. Holmes 10:54 AM
2:01 PM 30 Martin Kaymer (Germany) Bill Haas Rory McIlroy (Northern Ireland) 11:05 AM
Report kincsem April 5, 2016 6:12 PM BST
Time on the right of each line is the Friday start time.
Report therhino April 6, 2016 1:00 PM BST
They are expecting a downpour Wednesday night. Early starters should have the benefit of soft greens but will still be dealing with the wind. Think this strengthens Fowler's claims, good wind player and putting very well these days. Going cool on Bubba as well, for all the talk of Rory in the wind I can't remember Bubba mastering breezy conditions, likes it still so he bend it all over the place. Had traded a nice position on Bubba, would prefer the Ponce given the weather.
Report kincsem April 6, 2016 3:49 PM BST
I love American reporting.  You learn something new every day Laugh
"Which club a golfer will use, along with their shot selection, can become even more critical with blowing winds possibly altering the distance and trajectory of their shots"
Report kincsem April 6, 2016 3:56 PM BST
I see on  there was 70.87mm rain on Friday 01/04/16
Report jedi sophie April 6, 2016 4:59 PM BST
Rory last out first day,Adam out last second day really putting me off there chance.Mentally could be very tough. Spiffy goes out shoots 67 it must affect Rory.did last year for sure.Same Adam if nice total up on day 2.
Always try balance some of bets in case of draw bias but hopefully fairly even breaks for them in terms of draw/weather.
Still hard to believe dont alow full coverage until 7pm.SadSpieth n co be done almost.Defo be done by time they stop wittering and fawning over Jack or whoever theyve roped in to studio.
Report rommel April 6, 2016 6:44 PM BST
just cant see anything positive for spiff having to do this extra stuff cos he won last year-picked the menu for the dinner,the par 3.....
Report xmoneyx April 6, 2016 8:00 PM BST
par 3 contest is so shateExcited
Report EUGENE KRABS April 6, 2016 8:56 PM BST
Can't imagine Spieth spent much time on the Menu. They seem to have Burger and Ice Cream every year ! Don't know why they don't just hire out the local McDonalds and save a load of aggro !
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