Hero World Challenge

It's a brave (or foolish) man that will put money on Knox, Matsuyama, Fowler or Walker this week, after their exploits in Australia.

Jet lag may be an issue although the event in Australia was finished by midnight eastern time on Sunday morning so effectively they gain more than a day than if they were going the other way.

Not sure you have to be that brave with Matsuyama his last five starts are W W 2 W 5

2016 Watson makes his title defence in a field that includes 16 of the top 25 players in the Official World Golf Ranking,
three major championship winners from 2016,
the Rio Olympics’ gold, silver and bronze medallists
and 12 players who competed in last month’s Ryder Cup.

The field of 18 PGA TOUR players is invited as follows:
the current four major championships winners,
the top 11 players available from the Official World Golf Ranking as of Sept. 26, 2016 (following the TOUR Championship),
the defending champion
and two special-exemption players.

The 2016 Hero World Challenge field: Name (Official World Golf Ranking as of 10/23/2016), Country, Betting.
Dustin Johnson (#2 OWGR), USA 11/2
Jordan Spieth (#4), USA 13/2 - 4th 2015
Henrik Stenson (#5), Sweden 11/1
Patrick Reed (#7), USA 14/1 - 2nd 2015
Bubba Watson (#8), USA 18/1 - Champ 2015
Hideki Matsuyama (#10), Japan  8/1 - 17th of 18 last year - 75,73,70,66.
Rickie Fowler (#11), USA 16/1 - 3rd 2015
Justin Rose (#12), England 22/1
Jimmy Walker (#17), USA 35/1
Matt Kuchar (#19), USA 28/1
Russell Knox (#20), Scotland 25/1
Brandt Snedeker (#22), USA 33/1
Brooks Koepka (#23), USA 10/1
Louis Oosthuizen (#24), South Africa 33/1
J.B. Holmes (#25), USA 40/1
Emiliano Grillo (#26), Argentina 28/1
Tiger Woods (tournament host), USA 40/1
Zach Johnson (exemption), USA 40/1

tigger to stun us all with a comeback win

Lewis,
See Paddy Reed has the honour and privilege Thursday afternoon...

15:10pm	Bubba Watson (13/10)	Rickie Fowler (15/13)
15:20	Jimmy Walker (13/10)	Brandt Snedeker (11/10)
15:30	J B Holmes (11/10)	Zach Johnson (5/4)
15:40	Justin Rose (8/5)	Henrik Stenson (19/20)
15:50	Jordan Speith (4/5)	Matt Kuchar (19/10)
16:00	Patrick Reed (8/13)	tigger (9/4)
16:10	Dustin Johnson (19/20)	Brooks Koepka (16/11)
16:20	Hideki Matsuyama (7/10)	Louis Oosthuizen (19/10)
16:30	Emiliano Grillo (5/4)	Russell Knox (21/20)

Call me foolish if you want but cant resist Fowler e/w at 16/1 my other bet im on Rose at 20/1 e/w.

Good Luck All

European Tour can throw money at all the daft initiatives they like, but speaks volumes when this end-of-year muck about boasts more star power than they see in any event all year.

Tiger two eagles in the first 9 holes of the pro-am.  Waiting for the price to tumble.

is it stroke or matchplay?

thrown away a pony ew on rose at 20s

xmoney,
YOUR WEIGH IS OVER...

15:50	Jordan Speith (4/5)	Matt Kuchar (19/10)
16:00	Patrick Reed (8/13)	Tiger Woods (9/4)
16:10	Dustin Johnson (19/20)	Brooks Koepka (16/11)
16:20	Hideki Matsuyama (7/10)	Louis Oosthuizen (19/10)
16:30	Emiliano Grillo (5/4)	Russell Knox (11/10)

Jordan Spieth 11/2
Dustin Johnson 6
Hideki Matsuyama 8
Henrik Stenson 10
Brooks Koepka 10

day injured?

Here we go...

16:40	Justin Rose (5/4)	Henrik Stenson (4/5)
16:50	Jordan Speith (4/6)	Matt Kuchar (6/4)
17:00	Patrick Reed (8/13)	Tigger (9/4)
17:10	Dustin Johnson (19/20)	Brooks Koepka (16/11)
17:20	Hideki Matsuyama (7/10)	Louis Oosthuizen (19/10)
17:30	Emiliano Grillo (5/4)	Russell Knox (11/10)

33's Tiger

Catch Me ifyoucan 01 Dec 16 17:04 Joined: 09 Sep 03 | Topic/replies: 11,272 | Blogger: Catch Me ifyoucan's blog
33's Tiger

will be 1.01 by the end

Tiger gonna shoe these mugs how it's done

Early days but all-round game looks pretty good.  Taking his time seems to have worked, good to see.

missed 3 times from 10 ft as well could be 3 clear all aboard the TIGER EXPRESS CHOO CHOO

If you're not a wee bit excited by this you're not a golf fan.

unreal

Fun while it lasted.

tiger useless c@nt

will finish last now

awful from tiger after such a promising start.

the mental issues are there for all to see

Beat the Olympic Champ, so there's that.

bobweenit  • December 1, 2016 7:27 PM GMT 
TIGER EXPRESS CHOO CHOO...DE-RAILED on the back nine ffs with four 6's

JB 50's into 6's

tiger taking driver on 18 sums up why this will not work...........he just cannot play contained golf.

2 x bakers dozen

eldrick who?
nicklaus being totally PC saying tiger can equal or best his majors record
i doubt he'll ever win another 4 events let alone majors

FOR LATER...

16:12	Tigger (8/5)	Justin Rose (10/11)
16:23	Patrick Reed (11/8)	Brooks Koepka (1/1)
16:34	Brandt Snedeker (1/1)	Zach Johnson (5/4)
16:45	Emiliano Grillo (5/4)	Bubba Watson (11/10)
16:56	Russell Knox (1/1)	Jimmy Walker (11/8)
17:07	Rickie Fowler (7/4)	Jordan Speith (5/6)
17:18	Matt Kuchar (11/10)	Louis Oosthuizen (6/5)
17:29	Dustin Johnson (21/20)	Henrik Stenson (13/10)
17:40	J B Holmes (21/10)	Hideki Matsuyama (4/6)

Sweet of Justin to WD and make Tiger hack it round on his own.

Tiger's certainly putting like the guy who won all those majors.

unreal

I remember the days the forum would be in meltdown over all this.

woods gone backwards after promising start. When have we seen this before in recent years.

this type of course is pointless for modern pros. there should be rough everywhere except a narrow strip from tee to green.

has a Japanese golfer won any major?

xmoneyx 04 Dec 16 10:32 Joined: 12 Jul 11 | Topic/replies: 42,045 | Blogger: xmoneyx's blog
has a Japanese golfer won any major?

No. Only Asian player who has won a major I believe is Yang.

Hideki would be the first and he's currently gone right to the top of the list of the best players yet to win a major.

Clearly working his butt off if reports are to be believed. Obviously much more pressure in majors and he has a huge following in japan which adds to the pressure but clearly playing very well indeed.

has been impressive of late
but to win a major
has to cut out the wayward shots
and sink the putts in the final round

all these wins will help with the latter

good luck to him !

i seem to remember aoki going head to head with jack in one
major, prob us open , but jack saw him off

it would be huge for a japanese to win a major and therefore
the pressure mounts

Cracking little player i backed him last year in each major e/w for 2016 & i have done the same this year for next year for me he is a major winner in waiting.

charlie muddle 05 Dec 16 15:03 Joined: 05 Apr 07 | Topic/replies: 108 | Blogger: charlie muddle's blog
Cracking little player i backed him last year in each major e/w for 2016 & i have done the same this year for next year for me he is a major winner in waiting.
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Yes agreed and if he doesn't win one each way is a good call as he is bound to be up there in at least one

Also like the fact he has a female caddy on his bag- was reading the Nick Faldo autobiography and the first season he employed Fanny they won two majors together. Having a female presence on the bag will help to calm any nerves

WHO WINS IN 2017 ?

One of these HEROs:

D Johnson
R Fowler
Justin Thomas
Kevin Kisner
Henrik Stenson

tiger 3 birdies 1st five

looks like hes wearing chums

Presume TIGER will set the pin positions to suit him today

Could have moved the 10 feet from the Tee and he'd still miss !

brilliant round by fowler so far.

FOWLER out in 28 - INCREDIBLE 9 under thru 10 - NO WAY HE CAN LOSE THIS @1/2

THREE TIMER IN THE BAG - PGA, MAURITIUS & HERO

TIGER IS certainly BACK !!!!!...no woman is safe

surely fowler bags a major in 2018. too good a player not to make that breakthrough soon.

Rickie starting 7 shots back in an end of season muck about is a very different player to Rickie contending on the final day of a major, though.

So has the tourney finished now that Tiger has stopped?

Crap coverage.

Total Bosman 03 Dec 17 19:51 Joined: 15 Dec 04 | Topic/replies: 4,031 | Blogger: Total Bosman's blog
Rickie starting 7 shots back in an end of season muck about is a very different player to Rickie contending on the final day of a major, though.

maybe but every win breeds confidence- and I think he's still improving unlike others.

Nice 'Wedding' cheque for TOMMY Fleetwood

Excellent coverage on The Golf Channel

-11under - a 61 for Tricky Ricky - Course and Tournament Record.

...cue HOFFMAN losers/backers complaining

The old Fox Chappers Tipped The 3 Winners

Henrik Stenson and Gary Woodland added to Tiger's Hero World Challenge field, along with Patrick Cantlay who replaces Webb Simpson. Woodland is lowest-ranked among 18 players at No. 31, with 7 of top 10.

lewisham ranger    03 Dec 17 19:29 
surely fowler bags a major in 2018. too good a player not to make that breakthrough soon.

Twelve months later and still waiting for another PGA tour win let alone a major!

lewisham ranger    03 Dec 17 19:29 
surely fowler bags a major in 2018. too good a player not to make that breakthrough soon.

Twelve months later and still waiting for another PGA tour win let alone a major!

So we're really doing the Rickie at single figures thing this week?

your never to sure in these end of season affairs who is at it and who is turning up for a jolly.

Rickie at single figures in a field of this quality isnt for me

your never to sure in these end of season affairs who is at it and who is turning up for a jolly.

Rickie at single figures in a field of this quality isnt for me

Shouldn't be for anyone Mighty...

Outright fave now. Got to be kidding. What do his backers have against money I wonder

The 2018 Hero World Challenge

The annual 18-man Invitational event in the Bahamas (hosted by Tiger, and given the nod by the PGA) - A no cut 72-hole event - the Albany course at 7,309 yards and with five par-5's, looks at a 20-under birdie fest depending on how strong the wind blows..... Where's Brooks ?... Brooks who ? 

AND with 8 making their debut...
Bryson Machine Dechambeau (won 3 of his last 5)
Jon Rahm
Jason Day
Tony Finau
Xander Schauffele (done 23's on 'ere, ok mate !)
Patrick Cantlay 22/1ew
Gary Woodland
Keegan Bradley

Only 4 Ryder Cuppers make the trip (Rory, Moli & Tommy not able to make it ???)

Shouldn't be for anyone Mighty...

Outright fave now. Got to be kidding. What do his backers have against money I wonder


Lewisham smashing the market

DeChambeau
Finau
Schauffele

My team of three.

Lewisham smashing the market

I've only backed one golfer in this tournament, and that's Patrick cantlay at 22-1, that's the gods honest truth. (so expect a cantlay blowout in round two.)

will be annoyed if fat boys wins, as he was the other one I thought about backing.

rickie I wouldn't touch with a bargepole at the moment. head seems to have gone. he's talking about winning a major next year but at the moment he'd struggle to get over the line in a web.com event.

tiger and some others looks like they have got the deckchairs out. and who can blame them?

Tiger got sore ankles

Schauffele - two dbl bogeys won't help our cause

Hope he had a few strong margaritas in Rose's pad last nite

BUBBA 20's & Noran 25's from here tia

People slagging off Rickie but he won from 7 back last year and he's already positioned himself there.  Master strategist.

Know the rules are complicated, but how on earth was that a golf shot from Tiger?

He knows he double hit it, I knew he had double hit it without a replay,  Fehrety  and the 2 in the studio new he had double hit it, yet the new rule means he gets away with it legally now?? you just cant make a 2 inch back swing and hit it that far, no replay needed.

If it's not a double hit surely it's a scoop.  I just don't see how it's a legitimate shot.  Even if the TV rule means it's hard to impose the penalty, Tiger should take an easy PR win in a meaningless tournament and be honest enough to call it on himself.

He said the pics show he double hit it, and as Beem says that's enough for him to call the penalty on himself, as any honest person would do.

Yup, agreed.

nice of tiger to take up hockey halfway through his round.

Agree with TB here hard to understand why Tiger just didn't call it on himself. Would have been a positive pr spin for him in an event that he is highly unlikely to win and doesn't really mater in the grand scheme of things.

RAHMbo is HEREo

https://www.golf.org.au/newsdisplay/102372

The Bahamas event will fall in the same post-Thanksgiving slot next year – a week after the Australian PGA and a direct clash with the Australian Open in Sydney the week before the Presidents Cup in Melbourne.

Multiple sources in the American golf media anticipate a Wednesday-Saturday run for the 2019 event to ensure easier logistics for the trip to Australia to ensure players, caddies and families arrive in time. Woods’ entourage is expected to formally announce arrangements after this week’s trip Down Under.

Woods, on Presidents Cup captaincy debut, naturally has an interest in ensuring his squad arrives in Victoria ready to take on Ernie Els’ International team at the site of the hosts’ only victory, now way back in 1998.

The 14-time major winner said earlier this year that he wouldn’t mind if his team members opted to play in the Australian Open instead of in the Bahamas, insisting only that they’re match fit and not coming off a month’s rest, an issue he said was the main problem for his team 20 years ago.
But after interviews with Associated Press senior golf correspondent Doug Ferguson in the Bahamas today, you did not need forensic training to confirm a crime that’s about to be perpetrated on Australian golf.
In all likelihood, the Hero’s invitational field will comprise most, if not all, of the American team for the biennial Presidents Cup, supposedly the showpiece for all golfers ineligible to compete in the Ryder Cup between the USA and Europe in the opposite years.

USA Team Captain Tiger Woods has named his four Captain's picks for the Presidents Cup!

Paddy REED
Gary WOODLAND
Tony FINAU
Tiger WOODS

Surprise, surprise, all four picks 'get together' at this year’s (((((HERO WORLD CHALLENGE))))).

FINAL FIELD.....OWGR Rankings for this 18 man-field...

3 - DJ
4 - JT
5 - Rahm
6 - Cantlay
7 - Tiger
8 - Rose
9 - Xander
10 - Bryson
11 - Webb
14 - Woodland
15 - Reed
16 - Finau
21 - Rickie
22 - Kuch
35 - Kisner
38 - Bubba
40 - Stenson just added
43 - Spieth just added

11 on that flight to OZ - Woods, Finau, Kuchar, Reed, Woodland, Thomas, Simpson, Cantlay, Schauffele, DJ and DeChambeau... (yeah, Brooks makes his own way, or Tricky hops aboard)

Perhaps KISNER (30/1) wins this week ?...now that would be slightly embarrassing

6/1 Rahm
7/1 JT
8/1 Cantlay
10/1 Tiger
12/1 DJ, Xander
14/1 Webb, Rose, Rickie
16/1 Bryson
18/1 Finau
20/1 Woodland, Reed
25/1 Spieth
30/1 Stenson, Kuchar, Kisner
40/1 Bubba

Dustin OUT ("my recovery from knee surgery is complete, feel another wk of physio and practice will best prepare me for the Presidents Cup) - 36th ranked Chez Reavie makes his debut in his place - 8th at the TOUR Championship last August ($1.1 million bonus money - highligh was ace on 9th hole) while his season highlight was winning the Travelers Championship in June (his first win since 2008).

On WEDNESDAY to Saturday btw

Coverage of TIGER's every move on GolfTV, PGA TOUR and TGR Live

Monday - A Hero Shot thingy at the Baha Mar pool, the official host hotel, featuring host Tiger, DeChambeau, Rahmbo, Spieth, Stenson & Woodland.
Tuesday - Pro Am.....How much would you pay to caddie 18 holes for Tiger Woods? - One bidder at Tiger Jam pledged $75,000 for the right to carry Woods' bag during the pro-am at this year's Hero World Challenge in the Bahamas. https://heroworldchallenge.com/pairings/

Dave Gilbert, founder and CEO of National Funding, had the winning bid (surpassing the $50K paid last year by Jim Williams) at 'Tiger Jam' - his annual fundraising event in Las Vegas for his TGR Foundation. Other auction items included trips to Albany in the Bahamas and Diamante Cabo San Lucas, where Woods designed a golf course; each went for $20,000. A Virtual Green putting machine also auctioned for $22.5K. Over the years, the event has generated more than $21 million for his foundation, which focuses on educational programs and youth development.

Pro-Am, ONLY 30K to play in it...

https://www.mrsundaygolf.com/hero

PAST Results from the 4 Bahamas events...(only the players that matter included).

2019 (2018 SEASON)...
Jon Rahm    1    71    63    69    65    268    $1,000,000.00
Tony Finau    2    72    64    67    69    272    $400,000.00
Justin Rose    3    70    70    68    65    273    $250,000.00
Henrik Stenson    4    68    66    69    71    274    $175,000.00
Patrick Cantlay    T5    65    70    76    64    275    $147,500.00
Rickie Fowler    T5    72    67    67    69    275    $147,500.00
Dustin Johnson    7    68    67    72    69    276    $140,000.00
Xander Schauffele    T8    73    68    66    70    277    $126,666.67
Gary Woodland    T8    72    66    67    72    277    $126,666.66
Patrick Reed    11    65    77    66    70    278    $115,000.00
Bryson DeChambeau    T12    70    71    71    68    280    $109,000.00
Justin Thomas    T12    70    70    70    70    280    $109,000.00
Bubba Watson    T12    69    73    69    69    280    $109,000.00

2018
Rickie Fowler    1    67    70    72    61    270    $1,000,000.00   
Jordan Spieth    T3    68    67    72    69    276    $212,500.00   
Patrick Reed    T5    72    66    71    68    277    $145,000.00   
Justin Rose    T5    68    68    71    70    277    $145,000.00   
Matt Kuchar    T9    67    70    72    71    280    $122,500.00   
Tiger Woods    T9    69    68    75    68    280    $122,500.00   
Justin Thomas    11    69    70    74    68    281    $115,000.00   
Kevin Kisner    T12    70    72    75    70    287    $109,500.00
Dustin Johnson    T14    68    72    76    72    288    $107,000.00   
Henrik Stenson    17    70    71    77    71    289    $105,000.00   
Brooks Koepka    18    71    78    72    70    291    $100,000.00   

2017
Henrik Stenson    2    67    71    66    68    272    $400,000.00 (Matsu Won btw)   
Rickie Fowler    T3    68    70    68    69    275    $191,667.00   
Dustin Johnson    T3    66    66    72    71    275    $191,667.00   
Matt Kuchar    T3    67    67    71    70    275    $191,667.00   
Jordan Spieth    T6    68    69    70    70    277    $140,000.00   
Bubba Watson    T6    72    63    75    67    277    $140,000.00   
Patrick Reed    10    72    69    71    68    280    $120,000.00   
Brooks Koepka    T13    72    68    72    71    283    $108,500.00   
Tiger Woods    15    73    65    70    76    284    $107,000.00   
Justin Rose    W/D    74                74       

2016
Bubba Watson    1    67    67    63    66    263    $1,000,000.00   
Patrick Reed    2    69    65    66    66    266    $400,000.00   
Rickie Fowler    3    70    68    65    64    267    $250,000.00   
Jordan Spieth    4    67    66    68    67    268    $175,000.00   
Brooks Koepka    7    67    70    65    68    270    $140,000.00   
Justin Rose    13    71    72    70    62    275    $109,000.00   
Matt Kuchar    14    70    66    69    71    276    $108,000.00   
Dustin Johnson    15    68    69    72    71    280    $107,000.00

Simpson & Reavie make there debut here, while it's just the second-time-around for Rahmbo 1st (fast learner), Cantlay T5, Schauffele T8, DeChambeau T12, Woodland T8, Finau 2nd & Kisner T12