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toberaheena
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In a year where we have had some amazing twists and turns so far, we finally come to the first major of the year. As usual the course is in pristine condition. Hopefully the man above will
send some really nice weather to crown a brilliant sporting occasion. In the Shell Heuston Open, we have seen strong indications that the big players may be coming right for this. There will be a side competition between the Americans and the Rest of the World. And the Ryder Cup captains will be watching every move from players they feel may be in the running for their respective teams.

Picking a winner is never easy but it looks more open than ever this year. New names have emerged as weekly contenders on tour since this time last year and sadly there are about 10 participants in the field who are maybe past their best golfing days. Nature takes it's course and for every older player there are many waiting to take their place. Equipment technology has given average and short hitters a chance now against the power players.

So, in my search for the winner this year, I am going to look for the players who have a good game from 100 yards out. Wedges, chipping and putting will be the qualities I will be looking at. Phil is a master at this art so must be considered. Bowdich gave an exhibition 2 weeks ago in winning for the 1st time on tour and must be respected. Rory is probably my idea of the winner if he can keep playing to his present level, he could turn this into a rout. 12.00 on Betfair looks a solid offer.
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Report Ski-Wiz April 7, 2014 8:14 PM BST
Agree with you regarding Rory @12....been waiting for my dosh @12 to get matched for months and finally matched today.....didn't think it ever would when Tiger withdrew but i am happy to get 12 without Tiger in the field.....it's bargain.
Report bannahan April 7, 2014 8:48 PM BST
Are you not concerned about his 6ft within putting ski?
Report Kjeldsen April 7, 2014 9:16 PM BST
Incredibly open looking Masters this year, don't think any result would surprise me tbh.

Good luck everyone, not long now till the best four golfing days of the year Grin

Taken from my Blog...


Few sporting spectacles can match the beauty and drama of Augusta National and as the world’s finest golfers make their way to Georgia they will all be dreaming of one thing- donning The Green Jacket and taking their place amongst the immortals. While the absence of Tiger Woods is a minor distraction it will surely not detract too much from the four most highly anticipated days in the golfing calendar.

When trying to locate the winner from the field of elite invitees there are several key factors to bear in mind. Firstly, experience is key. Famously no golfer has won on his Masters debut since Fozzy Zoeller in 1979. Masters winners have triumphed on average on their sixth appearance which gives a perfect illustration of just how treacherous a challenge these slick, sloping greens are and how long it takes to “master” them. The fairways are generous but that is because the potential champion will have to display some or all of the following qualities:  laser accurate iron play along with nerves of steel putting and scrambling. Repeat winners are many: Nick Faldo, Jose Maria Olazabal, Phil Mickelson and Bernhard Langer to name but a few.

Bearing all this in mind, and taking into account current and recent form, three names shot to the top of the shortlist. 2007 Champion Zach Johnson may well be playing the best and most consistent golf of his career at the age of 38. He has made all ten cuts this season including two wins and three Top 10s. He ranks 12th in Greens In Regulation on the official PGA Tour Stats and 11th in Scrambling. In short, everything looks in place for a repeat bid and 33/1 is a perfectly fair price.

South African Charl Schwartzel followed in the hallowed footsteps of legendary compatriot Gary Player when triumphing in 2011 and he has made the cut in all four appearances at Augusta. He’s had two Top 10s from four appearances on the PGA Tour this year as well as a victory in the Alfred Dunhill Championship on The European Tour where he leads the stats in Putts Per Greens In Regulation. With a Top 20 finish in The Shell Houston Open this week-end he will fancy his chances of a second Green Jacket. At 40/1 he is well worth an investment.

There are several excellent candidates who stand out as potential winners of their first Masters title but at the top of my list is Graeme McDowell who is available at a massive 66/1. The 2010 US Open Champion should arguably already have added to his sole Major triumph but this week may represent the ideal opportunity. This is his seventh visit to Augusta and he has already claimed 17th and 12th placed finishes. He has been in tremendous form this season with Top 10s in Pebble Beach, WGC Matchplay, WGC Cadillac and The Arnold Palmer Invitational. Always an outstanding ballstriker, he has found an extra level with the flat stick this season and ranks 1st in Strokes Gained-Putting on The PGA Tour. This last stat could be the key and he can pip compatriot Rory McIlroy to become the first Northern Ireland player to wear The Green Jacket.

31 year old American Bill Haas has long looked a likely type to become the next American Major Champion and he simply must be backed at the 80/1 generally available. Unlike the majority of competitors he has taken to Augusta like a duck to water making all four cuts with a debut finish of 26th and a fine 24th place last year. He has been a model of consistency this season making all ten cuts and has the sort of strong all round game that can thrive in the high pressure environment of a Major Championship. He has won five tournaments on the PGA Tour and a first Major looks like the natural next step.

For our final selection we turn to another young American. Ryan Moore has never truely fulfilled the potential of his outstanding Amateur Career but over the past year that has started to change. He has a win and three Top 10s already this Season and ranks 10th in Greens In Regulation. His Masters record is impressive, with an outstanding 13th place finish as an Amateur in 2005, as well as an excellent 14th place in 2010. Take the 100/1 with Paddy Power who are paying six places each way.


Happy punting Happy

Cuyahoga


Z Johnson 33/1
C Schwartzel 40/1
G McDowell 66/1
B Haas 80/1
R Moore 100/1
Report toberaheena April 7, 2014 9:17 PM BST

Apr 7, 2014 -- 8:48PM, bannahan wrote:


Are you not concerned about his 6ft within putting ski?


You make a valid point ....  I am certain he has been working on that important factor as it is something that should be very rare for a top pro to miss these ones. The only point I would make is that most of the top players tend to throw in a missed short one these days. His length will now be important as the fairways must come up soft now as there has been plenty of water falling from the Heavens today. 12,s is some bargain . If the big mouthed Irish bookie was going 12,s on his six places there would be a stampede in his direction. Another one to ponder. Could Kuch lead the field for a third week. Back to lay ?

Report Baller April 7, 2014 9:20 PM BST
Personally can't trust Rory to string 4 solid rounds together especially in Major conditions. He worryingly developed a big miss left under pressure in the Desert swing earlier in the year which showed up again in coming down the stretch at the Honda Classic. His driving seems back to his best though which is some cause for optimism but his iron play has been well off compared to when he was at his best.
Report Ski-Wiz April 7, 2014 9:57 PM BST

Apr 7, 2014 -- 8:48PM, bannahan wrote:


Are you not concerned about his 6ft within putting ski?


No. He can handle the course. With two Majors under his belt, he should be able to hold his nerves on Sunday and not fall apart like he did a couple of years ago.

The rain could be in his favour if it slows the green down.

Report the muppet moans April 7, 2014 10:13 PM BST
This week they tee off at Augusta National for the Masters and I have a feeling we are in for a bit of a cracker with many surprises on the way. Adam Scott and Rory McIlroy are vying for favouritism and I will stick to my guns of never backing defending champions especially the way he capitulated in Texas two weeks ago and Rory just doesn't look fully on song to me. Phil may or may not have a pulled oblique muscle, who knows how bad Jason Days' thumb is, Bubba may sneeze his way around the azaleas, and Rose doesn't seem fully fit. Matt Kuchar still manages to drop the trophy before getting a single hand on it and Sergio always seems convinced he can't win a Major.Even I can't back course specialist Angel Cabrera despite the fact he gave me a big payday last year as he still seems to be carrying a shoulder injury. As I said earlier I think we are in for some surprises so here goes with my five to maybe pull that off.
The first bet I struck in January antepost when he was doing me a few favours was Marc Leishman and the the way the Australians have done on tour in recent weeks I am pretty glad I have him onside. Each victory of late by a player from down under seems to have inspired another great performance - maybe it's a late kick on from last years Masters as we approach the anniversiary but I am sure they will all take heart from Scotts' win last year. Leishman was 4th last year and was bang in contention from the get go and learnt a lot. Having opened the season in fine style he went off the boil a bit but a return to Augusta and recet happenings can only be positive 0.25 ew 150/1
My only other antepost bet has been on Patrick Reed - despite the fact he has to break the debutants hoodoo but if there was ever a player to do so it would be Reed. The man is brim full with self confidence and is it any wonder with three wins in his last fifteen events and I can visualise him off the first tee on Sunday dressed like Tiger and ready to go about his business. It is not as if he isn't au fait with Augusta National as he studied at nearby Augusta State and hence was allowed to play the course three times. Most debutants are overawed and shoot themselves out of things on day one - I don't think Reed will 0.4 ew 66/1
I was surprised to be able to back Jason Dufner at 50/55 this morning as people seem to be concentrating on his poor finishing in events BUT he won twice in 2012 and won his first Major last year. To me he has to be a bet at the price based on his performance in US Majors - in his last eleven he has that PGA win and four other top fives. He has improved with every start at Augusta and indeed led at the half way point last year and he has been in consistent if not spectacular form this year. If you want a player who will be relaxed in the pressure cooker atmosphere on the back nine on a Sunday then Dufner is your man 0.5 ew 55/1
Now time for a couple of complete rags who could pull off a huge upset this weekend. Firstly a young South African who reminds me of other young compatriots Immleman, Schwartzel who won and even Oosthuizen who nearly won and that is Branden Grace. After a sensational 2012 he has been a little quiet since and I admit he hasn't been at his best in the States of late but I don't think that is much different to his fellow South Africans and they did OK! He admitted to being overawed on his debut last year shooting a 78 but he found his feet and shot three rounds under par to climb to a tie for 18th. I admit it is a bit of a hunch given recent performances but some people just take to Augusta National 0.15 ew 350/1
Lastly a player who is simply written off most weeks despite three PGA wins in the last three years - Scott Stallings - as an unfashionable player he is available at a simply remarkable price. Admittedly the trends say a player had to make the cut last year - well he didn't play but he did in 2012 and finished 27th which was pretty impressive as at the time he was carrying a severe injury and could barely swing a club. The only reason he played seems to be down to a personal obsession with Augusta and when he won earlier this year and booked his ticket for a second time this week was at the forefront of his mind. There does seem a strong tie between Torrey Pines winners and players who do well at the Masters - we all know about Woods and Mickelson but O'Meara, Olazabal and recently Watson enter the equation and even famous debutant Zoeller won there in 1979 which got him into his debut Masters when he won. I know its an IF but if he is in contention come Sunday you know you have a player who knows how to win 0.4 ew 300/1
Report Ski-Wiz April 7, 2014 11:29 PM BST
Most people seemed to be concerned about Jason's thumb......yet......on offer for 18????

Rather strange as i wouldn't take less than 50.
Report Si-K April 7, 2014 11:33 PM BST
He's wearing a bandage but says theres no pain there Confused
Report ccmac1975 April 8, 2014 9:09 AM BST
i have every selection the muppet has mentioned there so hopefully great minds think alikeGrin,small bets on stallings and grace as the odds seem huge.id say the same for gallacher moon bae hanson bjorn and stadler all small nibbles.my 3 big bets are spieth reed and simpson who i think are over priced compared to the likes of scott and dustbin so hping at least 1 of they 3 and a couple of my outsiders can get into contention so i can trade out during the tournament as i stupidly waited to long to get my bets on and woods had withdrew and market changed.unlike the shrewdies on here who took advantage.good luck guys
Report toberaheena April 8, 2014 1:45 PM BST
There seems little doubt that some very big players are doing the rounds on the Masters betting outlets. Any bookie will now stand as much as he or she can take in if they check that they can lay off most of it on the exchanges and pocket the balance for no exposure. Used to be the way long ago with the smaller main street bookies on the telephone to their mate on the track. This looks like a real chance for the astute pro gambler. It matters not about ability or otherwise of golfers. Just information early, and a bit of software gives them instant pictures of their book standings and what they need to lay. We surely have the collective of knowledge and experience to be able to make profits on this marker, whether or not we come up with a winner. It is fair to say that regular forumites do not get the winners too often but have a well balanced book.
Report pantsonfire April 8, 2014 1:48 PM BST
Or so they say.
Report therhino April 8, 2014 1:50 PM BST
The punters have come for Woodland! Shocked
Report incaseof April 8, 2014 2:16 PM BST
Surprised by Rorys price, consider likely a wet course good for target golf with high ball flight, won both his majors in extremely wet conditions. No Tiger and decent form.
Report Baller April 8, 2014 3:08 PM BST
Snedeker for me. A lot being made of him not coming into this event in the same form as last year but while he did start last season well he hardly had the ideal prep for the Masters. He was diagnosed with "low bone turnover" when having to withdraw from the match-play and subsequently missed his last two cuts going into Augusta.

He's struggled with niggling injuries since but the main reason for his downturn in fortunes is that his putting has been woeful at times despite being the strong point of his game over the years. These comments Brandt made on the Sunday after recently recording his first top 10 of the season at Bay Hill offer plenty of cause for optimism. “Today is the best I’ve rolled it in a year, it felt like,” “I’ve been trying to find (my putting stroke) all year, and today is the best it’s felt under the gun,” “Hopefully I’ve figured something out.”

Snedeker has proven himself to be a consistent winner on TOUR with 5 wins in the past 3 years, most importantly his win at the 2012 TOUR Championship where he dispelled the notion that he has to come from behind to win taking the 54 hole lead and being the only man in the final 5 groups on Sunday to shoot under par. With 4 top 20 finishes in his 6 starts here, 4 top 20's in his last 5 US Open's and recent vastly improved efforts at the Open Championship, 'Sneds' recent major form is up there with the best. Having faced the steep major learning curve that most players must face (see Rory, Bubba and Scott in recent years) when not being able to capitalise on a 36 hole lead at the Open in 2012 and the 54 hole lead here last year, his time is now.
Report sheppy123 April 8, 2014 3:33 PM BST
I could never bring myself to bet on Fred Couples but he's got a good record at Augusta.

2013 - T13
2012 - T12
2011 - T15
2010 - 6

Also won in 1992.

What do you think??? Is he worth a punt???
Report bustino April 8, 2014 3:36 PM BST
probably top 20 7/2 or top senior 2/1 where it would seem he only has jimenez to beat...........hard to see him win outright..............but slight injury of back reported worth finding out more before placing wager
Report sheppy123 April 8, 2014 4:35 PM BST
Thanks bustino.

Like you say top 20 might be a good idea, but a bad back at his age wouldn't be a good betting strategy.
Report HeinzGuderian April 8, 2014 5:54 PM BST
Well, that's the kiss of death on Wee British Rory then !
Even the woman above can't save him now.
Apart from my original selection of gawd boy Zach, I shall, of course, be sticking to those Augusta stalwarts Laird and Blixt, the Burke and Hare of Magnolia Way ! Excited
Report toberaheena April 8, 2014 6:04 PM BST
It is very hard to keep personal likes or dislikes away in the back of your head when punting golf. People associate very often with a handful of golfers and it remains that way. Then some of us tend to dislike certain mannerisms and attitudes of other players.And the most stupid reason of all is having something against the openly very religious guys. We should put all these normal but useless thoughts into a file destined to stay in a little file back deep in the brain. Some of us like to rely a lot on statistics. For me the Yanks have gone way over the top with numbers. It is a game played by human beings, with human frailties and human gifts. No computer can guarantee you the winner. So, I have been looking intently at facial expressions, under pressure and attitudes when not under pressure. Looking for guys who listen to a caddy (as Jones did on Sunday) and a moderate lifestyle. And remembering the guys who can call on a bit of magic when necessary. Only the great players can constantly go to the well down the back nine. 

Understanding the paragraph above is known in medical speak ( Psychology ) and yes I have a few exams passed to know a little ), as ''soft'' diagnoses. Results, stats, temperatures , trends, graphs etc used to make a judgement call to pick the winner would be known as ''hard'' diagnostics.

As the song title says... the answer, my friends, is blowing in the wind.
Report pandora1963 April 8, 2014 6:16 PM BST
sergio garcia
Report JonnnyTruant April 8, 2014 6:34 PM BST
"I could never bring myself to bet on Fred Couples but he's got a good record at Augusta.

2013 - T13
2012 - T12
2011 - T15
2010 - 6

Also won in 1992.

What do you think??? Is he worth a punt???"

Always - man is a Masters cut making machine so you always get a full run - Top 20 at 4.3 a good shout.
Report sheppy123 April 8, 2014 6:49 PM BST
Thanks Jonnny, I'll consider it??? It's just his age that puts me off.
Report incaseof April 8, 2014 6:51 PM BST
Boom Boom always seems to be traded around 20ish on Saturday to later fall apart
Report Ski-Wiz April 8, 2014 7:01 PM BST
Tee Times

Round 1
* indicates a 10th tee start; all others are 1st tee start

GROUP 1, 7:45 AM ET
S. Cink T. Clark
GROUP 2, 7:56 AM ET
I. Woosnam J. Huh K. Stadler
GROUP 3, 8:07 AM ET
B. Crenshaw Y. Yang J. Blixt
GROUP 4, 8:18 AM ET
M. O'Meara S. Bowditch J. Niebrugge
GROUP 5, 8:29 AM ET
J. Senden B. Weekley D. Lynn
GROUP 6, 8:40 AM ET
C. Stadler S. Stallings M. Kaymer
GROUP 7, 8:51 AM ET
T. Watson B. Horschel B. de Jonge
GROUP 8, 9:02 AM ET
M. Weir M. Every R. Castro
GROUP 9, 9:13 AM ET
A. Cabrera G. Woodland I. Poulter
GROUP 10, 9:24 AM ET
F. Couples W. Simpson C. Lee
GROUP 11, 9:35 AM ET
G. McDowell R. Fowler J. Walker
GROUP 12, 9:57 AM ET
Z. Johnson K. Choi S. Stricker
GROUP 13, 10:08 AM ET
M. Jimenez B. Haas M. Manassero
GROUP 14, 10:19 AM ET
H. Matsuyama B. Snedeker J. Donaldson
GROUP 15, 10:30 AM ET
C. Schwartzel J. Furyk T. Olesen
GROUP 16, 10:41 AM ET
A. Scott J. Dufner M. Fitzpatrick
GROUP 17, 10:52 AM ET
J. Spieth P. Reed R. McIlroy
GROUP 18, 11:03 AM ET
K. Streelman D. Points
GROUP 19, 11:14 AM ET
L. Mize B. Grace M. McCoy
GROUP 20, 11:25 AM ET
S. Lyle M. Jones K. Duke
GROUP 21, 11:36 AM ET
J. Olazabal L. Glover G. Porteous
GROUP 22, 11:47 AM ET
N. Watney S. Gallacher D. Clarke
GROUP 23, 12:09 PM ET
V. Singh T. Bjorn R. Moore
GROUP 24, 12:20 PM ET
M. Kuchar L. Oosthuizen T. Jaidee
GROUP 25, 12:31 PM ET
T. Immelman G. DeLaet O. Goss
GROUP 26, 12:42 PM ET
G. Fernandez-Castano D. Ernst S. Bae
GROUP 27, 12:53 PM ET
B. Langer F. Molinari C. Kirk
GROUP 28, 1:04 PM ET
J. Day D. Johnson H. Stenson
GROUP 29, 1:15 PM ET
B. Watson L. Donald S. Garcia
GROUP 30, 1:26 PM ET
J. Luiten M. Leishman H. Mahan
GROUP 31, 1:37 PM ET
K. Bradley V. Dubuisson P. Hanson
GROUP 32, 1:48 PM ET
P. Mickelson E. Els J. Rose
GROUP 33, 1:59 PM ET
H. English L. Westwood R. Henley
Report Ski-Wiz April 8, 2014 7:04 PM BST
The two favourites Scotty and Boy Rory will be teeing off before the other 'big guns'. A few birdies from them two will force the others odds to drift.....
Report toberaheena April 8, 2014 7:40 PM BST
Rolling back the years   1986.

Jack Nicklaus was 46 years of age.He had not won a tournament in two years, and was being written off as a spent force. He had not won a Major in 6 years. But The Golden Bear produced one more back nine performance in his charge to trey and win the 50th Masters.A 30 back nine and a 65 proved just the tonic to beat Tom Kite and The Great White, Greg Norman by the minimum margin. The Golden Bear went eagle-birdie -birdie on the 15th, 16th and 17th respectively and the immortal walk of Nicklaus with his putter pointing Heavenwards as his birdie putt travelled that journey to the hole will live with all who witnessed it. Truly one of the proudest moments of the greatest player ever to have lifted a club in my lifetime.
Report laystheway April 8, 2014 10:22 PM BST
Just for a bit of interest because I will watch it, don't know much about golf, clicked on back on selections and randomly backed the following-

2225246468   US Masters 2014 : Outright - Win Market   BACK  Jim Furyk 84     
2225246467   US Masters 2014 : Outright - Win Market   BACK  Harris English 78     
2225246466   US Masters 2014 : Outright - Win Market   BACK  Rickie Fowler 94     
2225246464   US Masters 2014 : Outright - Win Market   BACK  Webb Simpson  81.55     
2225246463   US Masters 2014 : Outright - Win Market   BACK  Jimmy Walker  74     
2225246462   US Masters 2014 : Outright - Win Market   BACK  Patrick Reed  70     
2225246461   US Masters 2014 : Outright - Win Market   BACK  Graeme McDowell 68
Report Merlin7 April 8, 2014 10:22 PM BST
Best bets this week Jonas Blixt 200/1 EW. His hit it, find it,hit it again and hole the putt game has been a staple for the likes of Phil,Bubba and Day all of whom tend to do well here.Has been in poor form but worth a chance at big odds.

Russell Henley 150/1 EW. Has never impressed me tee to green but is such a good putter he cant be ruled out. T7 last week,on a course that is meant to resemble conditions at Augusta and has WON this year.
Report a bitofinterest April 8, 2014 10:53 PM BST
cheers laystheway,i could do with the money Cool
Report ShannonSpray April 9, 2014 12:06 AM BST
I did some research on the top 20 finishers for the past three years, just to get a feel for players who adapt to the course.

Adam Scott, Lee Westwood and Freddy Couples appeared in all three lists. Rory appeared once, around 19th or so in 2011 after his well documented self-implosion. I just get the impression that he doesn't like the place. Garcia and Kuchar each appear twice. I think Phil only appeared once, which really surprised me.

As a result, I've gone for bets on Scott, Westwood, Garcia and Westwood.
Report callitasucit April 9, 2014 12:20 AM BST
Merlin, Blixt is 300-1 with SJ, or 250s with PP, both of whom are paying 6 places.
Report lizardlouis April 9, 2014 7:57 AM BST
If Lefty is within 5 shots on the final day he is going to take all the beating with his wealth of experience around Augusta, I'm plumping for Mickelson and hoping for a not terrible start from him............I can't see any of the Brits getting close this year, not even the wee man!
Report lizardlouis April 9, 2014 7:59 AM BST
The two favourites Scotty and Boy Rory will be teeing off before the other 'big guns'. A few birdies from them two will force the others odds to drift.....

.........on the other hand, a few bogeys................
Report Ski-Wiz April 9, 2014 11:04 AM BST
That the chance you take.
Report xmoneyx April 9, 2014 11:31 AM BST
is Rory worth doing e/w top 5 or just win@14/1
Report Knight Rider April 9, 2014 12:35 PM BST
I would say each way is slightly better value, xmoneyx
Report Pilky01 April 9, 2014 1:20 PM BST
I fancy Jonas Blixt as top first-timer. Also fancy Thorbjorn Olesen E/W, who if I remember correctly had a storming final 3 rounds last year after shooting an over par in the 1st.

I'm running a private pool for the Masters on www.stakesandladders.com if anyone fancies in, £20 buy in. Questions range from which will be the hardest hole over the 4 days to where will the defending champion Adam Scott finish. Points for getting the right predictions, whoever gets the most points scoops the pot! Message me your e-mail address if you fancy it.
Report incaseof April 9, 2014 1:37 PM BST
Rose seemed to be very confident in his press conference, with his track record, 40s Cool
Report Quincy April 9, 2014 2:05 PM BST
toberaheena, Have sent a text. First one in the 2.15. Each way in the yankee, and small win bet.
Report Quincy April 9, 2014 2:22 PM BST
That was painless. Winnings on Rory at 12.5, against my better judgement really, but I'll go with Ski and Toberaheena.
Report lfc1971 April 9, 2014 2:30 PM BST
If it stays wet Mcilroy and Couples and maybe even Westwood. Needs to be wet to hide Rorys
poor putting...he is miles ahead of the rest.
Report Mighty Whites 2008 April 9, 2014 2:36 PM BST
Needs to be wet to hide Rorys
poor putting...he is miles ahead of the rest.


Rory hasn't won in the US since August 2012.

One of the few who could blow the field away at his best but its been a while since we saw that. Personally I would be more concerned with his left tee shot under pressure than his putting.
Report lfc1971 April 9, 2014 3:51 PM BST
McIlroy drives the ball better than anyone in golf, even better than Couples, of course when
you are so talented little glitches can still appear....but he must not try and correct this
do not tamper with anything in Mcilroys game except maybe putting, and even there.
Report therhino April 9, 2014 4:00 PM BST
Adam Scott is the best driver these days. Far better than Rory. Rory hits it a mile but far too erratic to be labelled the best driver. Not sure what you could base that off.
Report lfc1971 April 9, 2014 4:01 PM BST
Scott is a very fine driver also, but his is a slightly manufactured swing...
Mcilroys is the finest since Sam Snead.
Report therhino April 9, 2014 4:04 PM BST
Manufactured swing? It is a work of art.
Best since Snead? Plain silly.
Report Ouspenski April 9, 2014 4:05 PM BST
Best driver in golf?  Oh , hang on, it's the day before a major so they have arrived from the football forum. Scott is the best driver in golf. Hope that helps!
Report lfc1971 April 9, 2014 4:06 PM BST
Scotts swing although one of the very best has flaws, McIlroys comes as close as possible to not having
any.
Report Ouspenski April 9, 2014 4:09 PM BST
What flaws does  Scott's swing have? This should be interesting!
Report lfc1971 April 9, 2014 4:10 PM BST
Starting with his set up to the ball, it is not correct.
Report therhino April 9, 2014 4:11 PM BST
Laugh

Elaborate please.
Report lfc1971 April 9, 2014 4:12 PM BST
Don`t misunderstand, i think Scott is a terrific player.
Report lfc1971 April 9, 2014 4:13 PM BST
His body is not the right shape, his stance and back is too straight.
Report therhino April 9, 2014 4:14 PM BST
OK Crazy

Good luck with your bets.
Report Ouspenski April 9, 2014 4:14 PM BST
What's wrong with his swing then? You started telling us about his set up. What's wrong with it?
Report Ouspenski April 9, 2014 4:15 PM BST
Cheers lfc. Much appreciated. LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report lfc1971 April 9, 2014 4:18 PM BST
Look if you don`t set up correctly to the ball, and i don`t mean everyone is the same,
take say Trevino who was superb but also different. But it can be compared to different styles for a
footballer, they all look different but there are certain fundamentals that they must have.
Report Ouspenski April 9, 2014 4:21 PM BST
Could someone translate that please? Cheers.
Report lfc1971 April 9, 2014 4:22 PM BST
Its strange but if we can compare it again to football, take Ashley Cole, he has reached the
very top in football and yet he has never learned how to kick a football in the correct way..
not really.
Report mengmeng April 9, 2014 4:42 PM BST
it wouldnt be a major week without lfc on the wind up. What was it last time? putting isnt important?
Report Ouspenski April 9, 2014 4:44 PM BST
Haha Sorry lfc, thought you were being serious. You win. You got me!
Report Si-K April 9, 2014 4:45 PM BST
lfc is a troll ignore
Report sheppy123 April 9, 2014 5:07 PM BST
Haha I hope Rory & Scott are reading all this so they'll know what to do tomorrow.Laugh
Report kincsem April 9, 2014 6:01 PM BST
Just a bit of junk while waiting ... US top tens 2014,2013

Matt Kuchar: 6,8
Jordan Spieth: 4,9
Graham Delaet: 5,7
Zach Johnson: 4,8
Dustin Johnson: 5,6
Bill Haas: 2,9
Harris English: 6,4
Webb Simpson: 5,5
Sergio Garcia: 4,6
Brandt Snedeker: 1,9
Graeme McDowell: 5,4
Matt Every: 5,4
Hunter Mahan: 4,5
Jimmy Walker: 4,5
Adam Scott: 3,6
Jason Day: 2,7
Jim Furyk: 2,7
Justin Rose: 2,7
Keegan Bradley: 2,7
Billy Horschel: 1,8
Henrik Stenson: 1,8
Bubba Watson: 5,3
Jason Dufner: 3,5
Rory McIlroy: 3,5
Steve Stricker: 0,8
Ryan Moore: 4,3
Charl Schwartzel: 2,5
Luke Donald: 2,5
Patrick Reed: 2,5
Rickie Fowler: 2,5
Phil Mickelson: 0,7
Marc Leishman: 2,4
Matt Jones: 1,5
Lee Westwood: 0,6
Gary Woodland: 3,2
Kevin Stadler: 2,3
Russell Henley: 2,3
Ian Poulter: 1,4
Report DickTurpin April 9, 2014 6:53 PM BST
Big Phil = 355
Zachary = 500
The Rookie Spieth = 1k
Irish Yank = 630
B Ass = 780
M Eveready = 1.4k

Wee Rory = -200
Scott = -200

The Rest = -70

Lays placed on all green players, no back bets placed on top 2 - reassess after round 1.

Really fancy big Phil, think he primed again, can't believe he's not fav.
Report toberaheena April 9, 2014 10:16 PM BST
And they say there is a recession. I shudder to think of the total amount that will be wagered on this one competition. It must be so wonderful to play in the Masters but I can imagine it may be a sleepless night for the 1st timers. I myself, in anticipation , am really looking forward to a great competition. And the more I look at the field, the more open it appears to be. Will it be a stalwart with a load of experience or maybe, as G. Mac Dowell , one of the newer players on tour. Prices should be really double checked by anyone having a bet. There are so many offers and even a bookie or 2 taking a little chance. But remember. The bookies computer software only needs enough turnover to realise a profit and turnover is aplenty this week.
Report marychain1 April 9, 2014 10:21 PM BST
About time we had a local winner so I am all in on Kirk, Castro, Cink & Henley. None of this each way stuff. Win only.
Report toberaheena April 9, 2014 10:24 PM BST
should have typed ''reckons'' after G MacDowell , back there. Pre tournament nerves.
Report marychain1 April 9, 2014 10:34 PM BST
you need to reduce your comma quotient by about 70%
Report ccmac1975 April 9, 2014 10:36 PM BST
Speiths price has moved out over the last few days never seen that coming (.hope a few of the knew young guns adapt quickly and contend .reed played at college there so im hoping that helps
Report Ski-Wiz April 10, 2014 12:34 AM BST
Good.LaughLaugh
Report Quincy April 10, 2014 11:46 AM BST
I know I'm struggling when I'm contemplating backing Sergio.Cool
Report toberaheena April 10, 2014 1:50 PM BST
@Quincy... he did you no harm last week.
Report toberaheena April 10, 2014 1:56 PM BST
Speith, Reed and Rory in their 3 ball. Rory smiling to himself in the interview on PGA website. He is the experienced one of the 3 at his ripe young age. Did you see the putt the Mrs. sunk in Augusta yesterday ( it must have been 40 feet and no fluke). on greens that were probably 14 on S metre. She may have a golf career ahead when she realises that she is is not playing top tennis anymore. Between the 2 of them, they are raking in the dough from marketing etc.
Report toberaheena April 10, 2014 1:59 PM BST
Anyway, as the tournament is now underway for real, I wish everybody the best of Irish luck and bring home the bacon.
Report bannahan April 10, 2014 1:59 PM BST
PRE NUP not needed Laugh
Report toberaheena April 10, 2014 2:02 PM BST
That is a certainty Bannaghan. Best of luck with yours. Who are your big 3 ?
Report Kelly April 10, 2014 3:44 PM BST
Huh just took about 10 minutes to play a straightforward "recovery" shot . What sort of example and spectacle is that ?  And called a rules official , who hopefully just told him to get on with it .
Report HeinzGuderian April 10, 2014 3:48 PM BST

Apr 10, 2014 -- 3:44PM, Kelly wrote:


Huh just took about 10 minutes to play a straightforward "recovery" shot . What sort of example and spectacle is that ?

Report xmoneyx April 10, 2014 3:48 PM BST
his caddie even took a stance --wtf
Report The Kitten April 10, 2014 3:48 PM BST
I've got Freddie Mercury on the Red Button.
Report marychain1 April 10, 2014 4:30 PM BST
Is that a euphemism?
Report SillyPhil April 10, 2014 4:31 PM BST
what odds was this chap for day one lead?
Report marychain1 April 10, 2014 4:32 PM BST
150 on here
Report toberaheena April 10, 2014 4:44 PM BST
Blixt tipped up somewhere here on the forum. Think it may be a different thread. Good 1st nine anyway. Am trying to take my money out of Rory and leave an early green. Half the job completed.
Report bannahan April 10, 2014 5:01 PM BST
Tobe......I am/was £20k+ green on Blixt....traded small bits back....


Some with books e/w
Report Kelly April 10, 2014 5:22 PM BST
I traded out on Rory at 8.4 , tober .  Kept a bit , still think he might go lower .
Report toberaheena April 10, 2014 7:55 PM BST
Well done Bannahan my son. I have taken a rather neutral monetry stance. And Kelly does a good bit of accounting.Following is my early stance, and in the meanwhile was listening to Timeform Radio. It really is a great programme to listen to. Especially when you do not have to be listening to the Shy Sports panel. Pity Jack in there among those twats. Love listening to McGinley though. What you see is what you get from him.

Adam + €38.25
Rory  + €63.36
Jason Day + €76.27
Kuch  + €75.83
Sergio  + €69.11
Webb Simp + a lot from a bet done a few months ago.
Phil - €0.25
The Field - €15.25  ( have to work on reducing that )

I have a long standing bet on another and I am keeping it under wraps because he has a chance and I do not want to jinx the bet. Bookmaker bet.
Report Catch Me ifyoucan April 10, 2014 8:22 PM BST
GO SERGIO !!!

Viva Espana
Report xmoneyx April 10, 2014 8:23 PM BST
matt jones never in doubtExcitedExcited
Report toberaheena April 11, 2014 12:06 AM BST
Have managed to add a green of €250 on Bill Haas without changing much else since earlier post of 7.55pm.
Report toberaheena April 11, 2014 12:33 AM BST
For anybody without a bet yet, the best thing may be keep it in your pocket . But you probably are interested in having a punt if you are bothered reading this thread. I suggest calling to the big mouthed Irish bookie and having a few quid on Louis Oosthuizen (money back if you finish 2nd or 3rd) and an each way bet on him with the bookie who travels by train(6 places).
Report toberaheena April 11, 2014 12:34 AM BST
But do not forget that you cannot trade your position with either of them, as you can with any exchange.
Report toberaheena April 11, 2014 12:35 AM BST
Liquidity has been terrific towards what we have become accustomed to.
Report Catch Me ifyoucan April 13, 2014 5:35 PM BST
GO SERGIO !!!

Viva Espana..........YES, back to SPAIN asap
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