Tiger 2 shot penalty?

Take it you are a layer KR

Just noticed that. Confirmed??

No, a concerned backer!!

showing  he had a penalty for shot 3 and nothing for shot 4.

They didnt call any penalty on the radio although he may have broke a rule

This must be a mistake.  It doesn't happen that quickly when tigers involved and, its went under the radar....  Strange.

His ball moved while in the trees on the first they are saying

Where are they say that.. I've just watched PGA video of 1st hole.  He shot a 6.....

I think they are going to show it on the golf channel when they finish with Furyk, Slugger told Tiger after the round that a viewer had called in saying the ball moved on  one shot, Tiger said it did not, Slugger said it was very clear that it did, Tiger went off in a huff apparently.

tiger,Sergio paired tomorrow

Woods third penalty this year after Abu Dhabi and Augusta. Frustrating.

Video of the incident

http://www.pgatour.com/content/pgatour/tourreport/2013/09/13/woods-penalized-two-strokes.html

thanks for the video davygfc - yes the ball sinks down a little bit. it's very difficult to see at first but hard to believe tiger didn't know, the one thing it didn't do is oscillate, imo.

That is very dodgy. He knew it moved. There is a pause after it moves and he just carries on, but he knew

he pauses after the first effort to move the twig, just in case. Then he goes on to remove it and basically fks up

Damn straight he knew, that's why he bails out on moving the thick twig his ball was resting against.

hope he hurt his hand when he punched the wall. from the greatest sportsman of my generation to a complete twatt...what a shame

Hardly a hanging offence. He was docked a Two shot penalty and moved on.....as we should !

so he would have admitted it had the camera not been there? not the first time he thought he'd get away with one.

not a hanging offence, of course not, but is cheating

Why does he even think he can get away with this nowadays considering the amount of cameras on him?

I'm gutted because I backed him but he's an idiot.

Jack or Tiger ?  No contest.

THEY NEVER PROSPER

HeinzG - imo it is a pretty serious offence because i agree with the other posts that he knew the ball had moved thus, it is possible to argue he cheated because he didn't call a penalty on himself. cheating at golf by a pro is bad, by Tiger it is very bad.

serial cheater...just ask his ex-wife

he's known on tour as the cornflake

i would have thought cocopop

only by sergio

the only way he would have not known that it moved is if he wasn't looking.

very poor.

The ball moved. He may, or may not have seen it........only he knows.
He was docked Two shots for it, and a total of Four for the hole.
Get over it. (Livingstone is still creaming his panties)
Move on.
He, and I have.

He moved a twig.
The ball moved.
He didn't declare it.
The referee did.
Tiger pleaded ignorance.
Damage done.

Sep 14, 2013 -- 8:41PM, Mr.Angry wrote:

He moved a twig.The ball moved.He didn't declare it.The referee did.Tiger pleaded ignorance.Damage done.

The twig remained uninjured......

he may or may not have seen it???????????????

have you ever played golf?

e may or may not have seen it???????????????

He may, or may not, have had his eyes/dignity closed at the time.

Tiger.

The Twig, and The Woods lived to fight another day !

HeinzG - Tiger has not moved on due to this incident, quite the opposite, I'd say he has regressed, as his reputation has been done further harm and this time, unlike the dropping incident at the Masters, he is wholly and solely culpable and stands exposed.

I usually defend Tiger because he gets an unfair level of abuse, but I agree with Mexicano.  If you have ever played golf (which I assume most on here have) then it is quite common to move twigs etc from around the ball.  You are watching it LIKE A HAWK.  You will almost certainly know whether the ball has moved.  The key point is you do not HAVE to move the twig, you choose to do so knowing the risk that if the ball moves it costs you a stroke (two strokes obviously in Tiger's case because he didn't replace it).

This is probably something that players do on a regular basis and nobody sees, but when you're Tiger Woods there are always cameras about and I'm surprised he thought he could get away with it.

maybe he genuinely thought it did not move sufficiently to incur a penalty, we all saw it fron a ground level camera and saw the ball move down slightly whereas he viewed it from a more vertical position. I would be prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt but a little unfortunate for his backers (including me)as he would be -11 and the hot fav going into tonight....if he wins however, it will be all forgotten tomorrow.

Did anybody pay attention to a ball driven by Tiger intothe left gallery and suddenly come out perfectly at a 45 degree angle onto the fairway. The Lord works in mysterious ways.

Not certain what hole it was.

I am a huge Tiger fan but its fairly clear to me he knew it moved but thought he would try to get away with it

puggy.

would say to you is that if you are moving debris from around the ball you are watching it like a hawk.

you don't need anyone to tell you whether it's moved or not.

YOU KNOW.

he pauses after it moves as if to listen for any tutting, and quickly goes to the caddy, picks the club and gets the ball the hell out of there

It's incidents like this that dispel the notion that one should draw a line between sporting talent and the type of person possessing that talent. This is a guy with 20/40 vision crouching within a foot of the ball, the movement of which was obvious. He attempted to cheat and was called on it for once by someone with a large enough pair to do so. Any suggestion on the player's part that he didn't see the ball move further underlines a character flaw that, fortunately, most of his fellow professionals don't share.

There's enough material in Woods' history to support a thesis by any student of reptilia.

according to a slightly apologetic article by ewan murray (not the one off the TV) in the guardian, that's the fourth incident involving Tiger this season.

not the one off the TV

There's two of them!?

yes one is a sports journo for the guardian, writing mainly about golf - unless i am mistaken

golf and scotish football i think


theres euan murray too, who is a scotish rugby player

this reminds me of the best (imo) football chant ever - "there are only two Andy Gorams" after he returned to play for the first time after a bout of schizophrenia.

How did we get from Tiger Woods to Andy Goram (good keeper that he was).

And fair play to him, the first time I heard this story was from Goram himself, telling it during a visit to Sha Tin racecourse in Hong Kong.

this is worsde than tigers last rules incident, he must have known the ball moved therefore hes a  CHEAT!!! most other golfers would have called it on themselves, hes just lowered  himslfi most peoples opinion

yes and yes to the most recent posts

I TOLD YOU THEY NEVER PROSPER

Now wants a review of TV evidence and whether it should be used. No doubt in my mind that he knew his ball had moved and he thought he would get away with it. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt over the Masters incident but remain convinced that every other player in the field would have been DQ'd.

The USGA and the R&A both backed the Masters committee decision.

They could do little else once the decision had been made public. Or did the Masters committee discuss the issue with the USGA and the R&A? Still feel a DQ though perhaps harsh was the correct action to take.

USGA and the R&A has nothing to do with the Masters committee. They weren't compelled to back them in any way. They cited a rule change a couple of years back brought in to protect players in this situation where a penalty is applied after a card has been signed. The rule is not common knowledge, I had never heard of it at the time so there was a widespread misconception he should definitely have been DQ'd.

to be fair if he had picked it up and dropped it two feet away he could have cited the Masters let off

Should change his name from Tiger to Cheetah, hope he never wins another major he is a disgrace to the game!!

Sep 20, 2013 -- 9:12PM, primed139 wrote:

Should change his name from Tiger to Cheetah, hope he never wins another major he is a disgrace to the game!!

Sounds like an empty wallet in The Tour Championship talking !

doesn't sound like that to me, sounds like a quick-witted guy talking

Tiger to Cheetah, that's one of the best quips i've heard in a long time. bravo primed.

Thanks Happy Valley, haven't had a bet in USA this week concentrated on the euro instead. I just think it would be the biggest tragedy ever if he went on to equal or better Nicklaus's record. Woods is a self obsessed cheat he continues to spit in full view of the cameras and has no time for the crowds that flock to see him, the other is a total gentleman and fantastic ambassador for the game off golf no comparison.

Sep 21, 2013 -- 12:34PM, Happy Valley wrote:

doesn't sound like that to me, sounds like a quick-witted guy talkingTiger to Cheetah, that's one of the best quips i've heard in a long time. bravo primed.

I'm sure Tigger is devastated about the opinion of this slow witted guy on the BF Golf Forum.....and his w
side kick.

heinz57 what you know about golf could be written on the back of a stamp so keep your silly little comments to yourself #windowlicker

HeinzG - when i took my brother's civil service exams for him, aged 14 1/2 and then 16 1/2, and he progressed through the High Flyers channel, my wits were anything but slow .

i'd like to enlighten you, this thread is not about what Cheetah thinks but what others think of him and his antics.

Sep 22, 2013 -- 2:58AM, Happy Valley wrote:

HeinzG - when i took my brother's civil service exams for him, aged 14 1/2 and then 16 1/2, and he progressed through the High Flyers channel, my wits were anything but slow .i'd like to enlighten you, this thread is not about what Cheetah thinks but what others think of him and his antics.

Slow wit/half wit......I, and far more to the point, Mr. Tiger, care little.

Sep 22, 2013 -- 2:00AM, primed139 wrote:

heinz57 what you know about golf could be written on the back of a stamp so keep your silly little comments to yourself #windowlicker

This is her idea of intelligent, adult debate.

i think tiger does care, else he wouldnt have done it

Sep 22, 2013 -- 11:08AM, donny osmond wrote:

i think tiger does care, else he wouldnt have done it

If he'd cared, he would have called in an official.
I tend to give the lad the benefit of the doubt.
Others choose not to.
Neither I, or Mr Tiger will be losing any sleep over the matter !

You tend not to call in an official when you decide to cheat.

I'm sure that he hasn't lost sleep over it. Cheats don't care.

no matter he was probably tired as he claimed last night

and emotional...

Sep 22, 2013 -- 11:46AM, maggot wrote:

You tend not to call in an official when you decide to cheat.I'm sure that he hasn't lost sleep over it. Cheats don't care.

Are you speaking from experience, old chum ?
Mr Phil Mickelson gave Tigger the benefit of the doubt.
That others cannot extend that opinion, speaks more about them.