Open De France.....

Playing the women tennis winner market for the first time......laid all my small green on Bart at 1.01 and now 1.18. Very comical. Does it happen often?
Perhaps i should get involved a bit more.....my time zone only.

Good lad Weisberger.

I told you it was good value, Ski.  My first move was to lay Bartoli at 1.31, then at 1.03, then backed at 1.12 and 1.19 for a profit.  One point against the serve and the prices move 20 per cent.  Having said that, I didn't play to well.  Lisicki was layable at 1.28 in the first set.

Lisicki was layable at 1.28 in the first set.

Missed that one......started after the 1st set was played.

You're right the prices movements are volatile.

Surprised you don't more often ski given your obsession with trading. Tennis/NFL/NBA right up your alley

One issue i had today. Yesterday men winner market had no delay in betting but the women did today............why?????

It looks like the French Open has gone t**s up for me.  Going to move some of my green on Sterne.  Either to Dyson or to lay McDowell and Bjorn @ about 4/5 coupled.  Then it's a pop at one out of Davis, Hoffman and Chappell in the Greenbrier.

Jul 6, 2013 -- 3:46PM, therhino wrote:

Surprised you don't more often ski given your obsession with trading. Tennis/NFL/NBA right up your alley

I like to stick to what i know best. Also don't want to spend my life indoors trading 24/7. Did tennis as it was on BBC and the same time as golf. If it was on Tuesday i wouldn't have bothered.

Certainly not getting involve with NFL/NBA, assuming USA rubbish, as know nothing about those sports.

No idea, Ski.  I would have thought that the Men's would have had the 5 second in-play delay yesterday.

Disappointed with Zano today....biggest green and he goes into meltdown.

Just need Storm to get a birdie or 2 and the book will be ok.....would be 10 times better if Zano played properly.

Jul 6, 2013 -- 3:52PM, Quincy wrote:

No idea, Ski.

No idea, Ski.  I would have thought that the Men's would have had the 5 second in-play delay yesterday.

Maybe in match market but not winner market. Got a horrible feeling tomorrows winner market will delayed.

Laid the front two.

I like to stick to what i know best. Also don't want to spend my life indoors trading 24/7.

Fair point about sticking to what you know, but from a time perspective, a basketball game is 2 hours and an NFL game 3 and a half. Golf is 4 days... with far less liquidity. Educate yourself, won't go broke laying low in either sport just like Tennis. As I said, right up your alley as a trader. Could spend more time playing golf instead of watching it.

the way sky has been talking you would think it was last round

Men doubles.....any tips there?

Jul 6, 2013 -- 3:47PM, Ski-Wiz wrote:

One issue i had today. Yesterday men winner market had no delay in betting but the women did today............why?????

Because the winner market IS the final when the final is in play. Winner market not in play at any point until the final. Will 100% be the same tomorrow.

I see......

Winner market not in play at any point until the final.

It was in the semi-final....

McDowell and Bjorn are bring the others back in.....

it was the womens final today ? so thats why delay in the betting on outright market surely

Let's try again... Semi final and everything beforehand, winner market has no delay. Once the final starts though, as there is only two runners and the winner is decided by the outcome of that match, the winner market is turned in-play and basically becomes a second match odds market. If the winner market had no delay in the final the match odds market would be redundant, which it could be anyway really.

True rhino.....winner market and match market seems very daft.

but people might have existing liabilities on the outright market due to trading during the tournie so there needs to be 2 separate markets to cover this

Would all be settled though meng aside from any positions taken on the finalists which are still relevant to in play moves in the final. Doesn't matter as it doesn't adversely effect anyone just a little oddity having two markets running that are identical.

Very open tomorrow....anyone from -2 to -5 can win this.

The Bjorn interview just went 1000.

true, i know it sounds strange and probably just in my mind but in the outright market you got guys who would have the finalists at massive odds,so psychologically i would feel at a disadvantage trading in that market at the final odds against people who probably already have massive greens on eachside built up throughout the tournament, so feel on a more level playing field betting on a new market for it.

sounds crazy i know but i like having the 2 markets up as they have been built up in different ways.

In some tourny, like football, have match and winner market because football has a draw element in it meng....tennis don't.

New system.  Give your neck, do something and let it come your way.

In tennis if the first set is not completed all bets are void , the outright market bets will stand so you need both markets.

well done frames, glad you are here. thats that then lol

Fast approching the point where there are more posts on markets, tennis and general chit-chat on here than there are on the golf.

Just keeping it fresh Quincy. Anyone seen world war Z? Sweet movie.

we could post horseracing tips if you prefer quincy lol

I could more or less guarantee you a profit on that, mengmeng.

i like to stick to what i know....which isn't a lot to be fair but it seems to work.

Gmac to shorten then go in the drink tmrw and get in a strop, thats my prediction!

And why do the commentators love him so much? A total mystery...

Jul 6, 2013 -- 5:35PM, mengmeng wrote:

i like to stick to what i know....which isn't a lot to be fair but it seems to work.

That's my philosophy.

The problem with horses is getting on at the prices you want.  7.30 Nottingham, starting backing My Time @ 11.5 this morning.  Took 4 hours to get matched and there's only £23k matched in total and you have to halve that.  7pts @ 11.5, lay 8pts in running @ 9.
9 pts profit for the win, 1 pt for the loss.  It works because I lay 87 per cent of them in running, but I struggle to find one a day.

hope you are right doorman...

Got chances in the Greenbrier now.

Not sure that I've ever seen GMac in that much of a strop....

doorman, you seem to have a worrying problem with the media.

The fella's one of the very best golfers on the planet. He played a terrific round of golf today, and very much deserves the praise.

always open and honest in his interviews also, i quite like him

Each to their own, will be surprised if he repeats it tmrw.

he is by far the most likely winner, its not like he has had a round where he has shot the lights out, just nice and steady, same again tomorrow and it will be his to lose.

Power cut!!!!! Just back on,

oh zanotti wtf did you do lol. was starting to get my hopes up yesterday having backed him at over 900 oh well

First horse to go to 1000.

wiesberger to p**s away with this one lads

on this course a double bogey is around every corner, mc dowell a lay at 3.3 in my opinion.

Agree about Wiesberger - strong final round performer. Also like Kjeldsen at 28 on here.

agree with last two posts,wiesberger to win gmac to fade away.

Layed the top 3 at a little less than evens. Hopefully someone can get off to a fast start. Hopefully Hennie.

how do you work that evens bet out pants,ime a bit nieve,cheers

Some very fast starts out there this morning.

sonofshinner, All prices cab be expressed as a percentage.  The best way for a novice is a piece of paper, a pencil and a calculator.  Divide 100 by the price. McDowell is 3.25 to lay, 100 divided by 3.25 = 30.77%, Richard Sterne is 6.2 to lay, 100/6.2 = 16.13%, Wiesberger is 7.6 to lay, 100 divided by 7.6 = 13.16%.  The three added up come to just over 60%.

So if you lay the three, you are laying 4/6 the three coupled.  There used to be a table published in the Sporting Life giving the percentages for bookmakers prices, haven't seen one for years.

The other way is a simple Excel spreadsheet.  Three columns, 100 in the first (a), the price in the second (b), and the third is column a divided by column b.

Added Donaldon, Kjeldson and Warren to go with Bourdy and Ramsay.

GL all

Your lay of the top 3 might not be a bad move, pantsonfire. Looking at it myself, or at least a variation as I'm all green and Sterne is the best of the three for me.

Quincy
     07 Jul 13 10:01   

sonofshinner, All prices cab be expressed as a percentage.  The best way for a novice is a piece of paper, a pencil and a calculator.  Divide 100 by the price. McDowell is 3.25 to lay, 100 divided by 3.25 = 30.77%, Richard Sterne is 6.2 to lay, 100/6.2 = 16.13%, Wiesberger is 7.6 to lay, 100 divided by 7.6 = 13.16%.  The three added up come to just over 60%.

So if you lay the three, you are laying 4/6 the three coupled.  There used to be a table published in the Sporting Life giving the percentages for bookmakers prices, haven't seen one for years.

The other way is a simple Excel spreadsheet.  Three columns, 100 in the first (a), the price in the second (b), and the third is column a divided by column b.

Or you could just click the lay box of the three on here, fill in a stake(just don't click "Place bets) and tick the "Show % Book" box beneath and instantly see combined lay %.

Thanks Eddie, that's how I did it.

bjorn/sterne for me today

A bit on Otto and Campillo...both -2, 3 behind, at 110.....value to me and anything can happen.

Been that long since a used the Betfair site to place bet, Eddie, that I'd forgotten about that.

if anyone have found any stream working right now, pls send me pm

going for Sterne at the price

thanks for the info lads,much obliged.

eddie tried your variation pressed show percent nowt happened.put 3 stakes in

inspired build up for Howell lol

so as long as them three dont win you have a 4/6 shot.

It was 19/21 when I did it this morning. Not looking too wise now but a long way to go on a dangerous course.

how they both got pars out of that i don't know

haha Mcdowell lucky to get over the water on the 2nd, a foot from out of bounds on the 3rd, give him the trophy

Final group luck fest.

Looking at the leaderboard here, I notice that British and Irish players are doing ok. Just in time for the Scottish and the Open. Have had a bet on the match between Sterne and G. Mac. €100 @ 1.9ish. Hope it is not a tie. Hate that.

Who has got it wrong for Warren on the par 5.....euro tour or sky?

I know where my money is going...

Absolute morgage job that.....atleast he got it back on the 10th


Shocking stuff from eurotour scorers.......AGAIN

Hey guys...this has almost certainly turned into a match between G Mc and Sterne...... time to trade.

Between them two for the last hour or so.....both would need to choke for others to get in.

Damn good par from Sterne there.

Just got back from a Sunday lunch.  What's happening?

15th (is it?) is beyond difficult.....expect dropped shots late

Took 34 on Dyson but a nightmare 2nd shot to come

15th to 18th.
mcdowell no birdies.
sterne 1 birdie.

tight finish.

Jul 7, 2013 -- 3:40PM, Quincy wrote:

Just got back from a Sunday lunch.

Just got back from a Sunday lunch.  What's happening?

They are still playing golf

mcdowell been very solid so far

Lady Luck mcdowell

Last week they were on about luck of the Irish.I understand now.

wait till 18

fooook me some bounce mcdowell

looks over GMAC given it

Gmac 4 shot lead going down 18

Wait for ski to say

Howard does talk some sh1te.

reading thru thread,I think only maggot backed Gmac ,the rest layed

Wait for ski to say 'Bannahan a stalker'

A horrible afn

no good to me,but he was a worthy winner,even if he rode his luck at times.

Onlt asked because McDowell went from 1.26 to 1.49 as I walked through the door, Ski.

Well done and congratulations to G Mc. Super performance.   Some big winners this weekend in the Lions, Andy Murray and now G Mc. For more winners, we move on to the U.S. and the really nice course at the Greenbriar. Hope all the people in red after the French can get it back with more in America this evening. As usual, I am taking on the fav. Good luck of the Irish to everybody.

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