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Was having a few pints watching the golf last night with a couple of mates and this came up. I am a competent single figure player. Playing it for the first time, no caddy, back tees, I reckon I would score around 130. If I played it 4-5 times I think I may be able to break 100, on a good day.
My mate who is also a single figure player reckons he could break 100 comfortably. Any thoughts ?
My mate who is also a single figure player reckons he could break 100 comfortably. Any thoughts ?
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I play off of 13 and I'd be over the moon with 120!
Regular 4 putts I reckon |
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back in the day they used to have a usa press v british press match on the monday[ i don't know if they still do ] and the journos went into a ballot to see who got to play.
i know a guy who played in it a few times,[he was off 4 at the time]. he told me he never broke 100. |
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I am quite sure that I could not complete the course. My caddy would need to carry two bags. One with clubs the other with balls.
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i play off 12 and imo there is no way i could break 100 even on a good day
would probably be delighted with 120 |
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Course set-up requires professional ball striking capability to hold the greens, a scratch player would have a chance of breaking 90 but other than that it would be crazy golf for your average hacker..NR for 99%..
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I think you all overrate the course difficulties here.
Not much trouble around here apart from the very difficult green areas. I would be very surpriesed if a 5 handicapper didn't break 100 easily. He would be on or close to most greens in regulation and could have 3 putts or a chip and 2 putts on every green and still break 100 with ease. |
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And just to add, there are big differences on how 5 handicappers play. You have the short straight exstremely consistant players and you have the longer more erratic hitters.
The latter would performe better here. |
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Having walked the course a few times, the one thing nobody considers is fatique - it is a very tiring course physically and would be mentally.
The TV does not do the course justice, the 19th for instance is about a 60 foot elevation from tee to green. They have really tightened the course up, its not just about bombing it, you have to be really accurate from the tee on a number of holes notably, 7, 9, 11, 17 and 28 - the greens are absolutely ridiculous, not so much the speed, the sheer size and contours. I know of a few very low digit handicappers who have played there and shot in the 80's from the members tees and NR'd from the Masters tee's. I myself play of 5, if I broke 100, I would be made up. |
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18th*
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28*
 Again should read 18- no wonder I failed maths in school  |
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Fatigue
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Having walked round also ,,the sheer elevation changes are incredible ,remember a member telling us that even if a single figure golfer dropped his ball 10 yards short of every green and played from there the pro would still out score him from the tee :)
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Good god I would hate to think what I would score. I play off 14 and I am not a huge hitter and average 230-260 off the tee.
So quite a few of the Par 4's become unreachable in 2 for me so that's a big issue. Then we get to the greens which are like hitting to and putting on a table!!! My putting stats are not great which is why I play off 14 and not single fingers so I think a lot of 3 putts and maybe even 4 putts would take place. 84 to play off 14 but I would be happy breaking 110 if I am honest. Would love to play the course though :-) |
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"single fingers" lol - oops
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How it was yesterday I would guess low 90's (3 handicap), but then I would be playing it not to score crazy high rather than playing to score, e.g. pitching to the parts of the green I could 2 putt from rather than trying to get it closer to pin.
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Some old slapper on a coach trip from Grimsby knowing my luck.
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Good god I would hate to think what I would score. I play off 14 and I am not a huge hitter and average 230-260 off the tee.
That's actually pretty long for someone with your handicap Most hobby golfers overestimate their distance from the tee with at least 10 % |
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I was referring to my distance in relation to pro's. My distance is good for 14 handicap (my coach says I should average 225yds to play to 10 handicap)
My FIR and GIR are equiv to single figure handicap but my Up&Down % and total putts are not good at all - hence why I am off 13.5 |
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makes the 14 year old scores incredible
having to try an shape a lot of tee shots and have a sh^t hot short game--all I would see on my scorecard is snowballs |
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One word re the 14yr old - astonishing!!!!
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I don't know when it comes to this guy, but it's a well known fact that the Chinese are cheating on ages for young athletes..
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well he ain't 16
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The thing with Guan is he looks like a 14 year old. He just looks an amazing talent. It will be interesting to see how he develops.
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The new Tiger.......hopefully he doesn't disappear.......
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I played off 2 for nearly 20 years until 8 years ago before a car crash made me give up the game full time.
I played Muirfield in the wind and with the greens at Competition pace and played absolutely fantastic in both morning and afternoon and shot 90-96 = 186. My best game at my peak and I reckon I would score around about 100! |
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Reckon one of the caddies would save us all alot of shots
I'm off 9 and wouldn't have a chance of beating 100, but with a caddy telling me where to go, I reckon I would have a squeak |
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Caddy would help but only if the shots went as advised!....tbf that's going to be rare even for a single figure player..
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fair dues wizard
muirfield is a serious test will see open this year |
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xmoneyx, it was fantastic playing there. The wind was so strong and in to down the first I hit a driver and just made the fairway, and I was considered a long hitter.
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Muirfield in a gentle breeze would be playable for the average handicapper, Augusta has it's own defence..
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imagine scoring six on each hole 18x6 = 108
i play off 8,one of he par 3,s is 230 yrds i cant drive that far |
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Brilliant thread and confirms that golf is truly an elite sport.
Elite to such an extent that highly gifted amateurs could not compete on a course like this. In some sports a very gifted amateur could bridge the gap up to a point. I'm thinking football, rugby and cricket. |
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i played Victoria in Portugal last year where
they play the masters.hit driver,3 wood,sand wedge onto green all decent hits,and thats a par 4. it was off front tees as well |
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*18th hole
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Had a similar discussion a few years back , playing of 20ish ( as I do )
If I only had a putter , and dropped the ball on the edge of the green what would I shoot around the 18 holes of Augusta at Masters conditions , would I shoot low enough to win a green jacket , I think it would be tight ??? |
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in tennis gifted amateur would possibly score no game against top 50 player,possibly would struggle with handful of single points
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I play off 18 and am a short hitter. I'd say I could steer it round the 18 holes in 130-150. At least I'd be getting value for the green fee.
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You would either break 100 or be around it David - I reckon I would score 88-99 kinda score - I play off 6 over hereand have played Atlanta Athletic club and teh place they play the tour championship... Scored 89 and 92 (with an 8 at 9 to go out in 43......)
The course has no rough so its just the putting that will kill you... (same idea as the tour champ course) |