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the muppet moans
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I could only really study the last four winners of the Farmers Insurance event because before that a certain Mr Woods won from 2005-2008 then won the US Open at Torrey Pines in the “Battle of Wounded Knee” and only returned in 2011 when 44th. I think Woods is easily opposable at the price on the evidence on how he played last week in Abu Dhabi.
Decent course form is a must with the last four winners all having posted a top ten finish in the last two years. It seems to be a course you have to get to know well (or two really - North and South) as Snedeker, Watson and Crane had played the event five times before winning and Watney four times. They have all been what I would call quality winners and all aged from 27 to 33 and all of them had wins under their belts. With these facts in mind I came up with a shortlist of just four players but have ruled out Bill Haas and Hunter Mahan on the basis that they have already had eight and nine attempts respectively to win the title.
At the prices I really like the chances of Marc Leishman this week. The 29 year old Australian won his maiden title last year and has a solid bank of course form at Torrey - in his four attempts he has been 26/2/9/52. His one poor start last year came when this event was his season opener - he has played here better in the past having already got some tournament golf under his belt. He was 23rd at Kapalua but was then 9th at the Sony - his best ever finish there - this could be partly due to a better attitude
“Drank a little bit less beer and ate a little bit less food, I’m not carrying the extra pounds that I normally am this time of year. I’m still carrying a little bit extra. I was just a bit more careful with what I ate and what I drank and just preparing better. I normally like the West Coast but generally don’t get started up until about Texas playing good, so hopefully this year I can change that.”
As he fits all the criteria of the last four winners, has great course form and a good attitude he is worthy of a decent bet - 0.6 ew 75/1 (66/1 OK)
I rarely back favourites but Dustin Johnson has to go in the book this week as he fit’s the mould perfectly. He has had five event starts and was 3rd two years ago. He has a great Californian coastal record with two of his wins coming at Pebble Beach and he now has a total of seven tour wins including the season opener a few weeks ago. He withdrew from the Sony after one round with a “cold” and should be fit and ready to go. I will go win only at 16/1 as the 4/1 for a place isn’t overly generous as he has a 5.4% win rate and 15.4% top five.
The final small pick for the week is based on some “hidden course form” although in reality it probably isn’t that well hidden! Michael Thompson was 29th here in 2008 in the US Open and what we must remember is that he was an amateur at the time albeit the best in the world. He could well be relishing a return to a US Open venue in California having been runner up at last years Major held at the Olympic Club.0.1 ew 250/1 (200/1 OK)
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Report Puggy4 January 25, 2013 7:43 PM GMT
Morse..you are a legend.
Report toberaheena January 25, 2013 11:00 PM GMT

Jan 25, 2013 -- 12:35PM, toberaheena wrote:


Just laid €95 @ 5.03 Tiger.


Tiger has me spooked. I hate saying it but I think he now might win. So I have hedged 100%. I now stand at

Tiger €44.57 profit.

The Field €386.34 loss.

Report therhino January 25, 2013 11:06 PM GMT
Good luck tobe, looks like a stressful weekend ahead. Hope you get out of jail, and haven't forgotten Woods struggled badly last year on Saturdays when in the lead.
Report golfnut January 25, 2013 11:32 PM GMT
Glad thats over...cant suffer any more of watching Billy Mayfair...
Report pokeron January 26, 2013 12:00 AM GMT
good luck tobe. remember when you layed ogilvy @ 11's for $100 in the aus open/pga?
after two rounds many thought he would run away with on on moving day but didn't. you didn't switch doors which was wise there.
i would have done the manouvre you just did on tiger on ogilvy that tourney and lost money. lol.

so, this time you have switched doors. let's see what fate has in store for you. good luck Cool
Report toberaheena January 26, 2013 7:42 AM GMT
Thanks guys. Azarenka and Sprintre Sacre double will  hopefully help.
Report toberaheena January 26, 2013 7:44 AM GMT
The main reason I changed over to Tiger is the lack of quality of the chasing pack ( in general ).
Report toberaheena January 26, 2013 7:51 AM GMT
@therhino.....remembering last year I laid Tiger and didn't lay off a cent. Tiger has a different demeaner about him this year. He just looks the part for me.
Report miss anomaly January 26, 2013 8:35 AM GMT
Tiger looks short at 1.81 with two rounds to play and fourteen other guys within four shots with two days to play. Looking at the market it wouldn't surprise me if he gets shorter before the start of day three because no-one else really jumps out at me.
Report miss anomaly January 26, 2013 8:36 AM GMT
Did I mention there are two rounds/days still to play? Tongue Out
Report padlock January 26, 2013 10:13 AM GMT
exactly only halfway,been a while since tiger put 4decent rds together in a row,looks good but all it takes is a d bogey and the attitude to arrive, 16-18 under will win so not over yet imo
Report pattayaboy January 26, 2013 11:23 AM GMT
sleeping in the same bed as his x wife again.. told you before tourney started that he is again content and the hunger is back.. will win everything this year
Report Merlin7 January 26, 2013 1:56 PM GMT
50% Chance of rain Wind 10km/hr today.Breeze due to increase to 20km/hr Sunday afternoon but i am sure they will play early again tommorrow to accommodate a Woods victory.

69 will be a good score today and i cant really see any of the chasers being better than -12 by the finish of tournament. Looks like Woods to lose. No more bets this week for me and have no interest in watching a Woods victory. Roll on Scottsdale.
Report the stunning January 26, 2013 2:10 PM GMT
Don't give up on Bill yet merlinWink.
Report Eddie the eagle January 26, 2013 3:32 PM GMT
1 hour fog delay.
Report Eddie the eagle January 26, 2013 4:23 PM GMT
Another 30 minutes delay, at least.
Report Howdi January 26, 2013 7:08 PM GMT
did play start and then halt ...if so when are they vback on ta
Report adge January 26, 2013 7:28 PM GMT
as soon as the fog clears
Report Howdi January 26, 2013 7:35 PM GMT
helpful
Report Eddie the eagle January 26, 2013 8:05 PM GMT
Restart in 15 minutes, 8.20 UK time.
Report Howdi January 26, 2013 8:28 PM GMT
cheera pal
Report Eddie the eagle January 26, 2013 8:34 PM GMT
Fog is back again, more delay Cry
Report Carl January 26, 2013 8:49 PM GMT
is this likely to go on and on and any prospect of more play within the next hour or so?
Report matt106 January 26, 2013 9:04 PM GMT
54 holes?
Report par January 26, 2013 9:07 PM GMT
Tiger backers would take that.
Report padlock January 26, 2013 9:07 PM GMT
ffs this weather thing sucks,i could have went out lol
Report Howdi January 26, 2013 9:16 PM GMT
or stayed in to improve your grammar
Report toberaheena January 26, 2013 9:31 PM GMT
Is it 1.30pm there at Torry Pines now? Wonder if there is no play today, would they play a closing round on Monday. Or 54 holes only.
Report toberaheena January 26, 2013 9:33 PM GMT
The tour official gave a reply to the commentator, you would expect more from a 10 year old kid.
Report Del Potro in 2009 January 26, 2013 9:39 PM GMT
Is Casey Wiitenberg's price a little big? 60s 3 back?
Report Del Potro in 2009 January 26, 2013 9:48 PM GMT
any play today?
Report Gerbs January 26, 2013 10:09 PM GMT
talking about playing monday if they dont get out soon on CBS
Report golfnut January 26, 2013 10:12 PM GMT
Comms say its not fog its a "marine layer"...WTF is that!....will be monday finish if required...54 not going to happen....

Very foggy at the moment.....update was on Sky 3 mins ago....
Report golfnut January 26, 2013 10:12 PM GMT
Comms say its not fog its a "marine layer"...WTF is that!....will be monday finish if required...54 not going to happen....

Very foggy at the moment.....update was on Sky 3 mins ago....
Report megdog1 January 26, 2013 10:41 PM GMT
5:32 PM

More of the same weather expected



LA JOLLA, Calif. -- The forecast for the rest of Saturday and Sunday morning doesn't appear to be very condusive to playing golf. But so far on Saturday it's been a case of expect the unexpected so we'll see.

According to the on-site meterologist Stewart Williams, low level moisture will keep clouds and fog in the area through Sunday morning. Another low on Sunday will bring a cold front into the picture with scattered showers possible before noon.

The good news is that drier air and winds from the west-southwest should help break up the fog in the afternoon. Temperatures will remain in the upper 50s.


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Report harter January 26, 2013 11:06 PM GMT
If it's reduced to 54 holes just hand Woods the trophy now.
Report adge January 26, 2013 11:21 PM GMT
no play today and could be the same tomorrow by the forecast although may get some play on sunday afternoon
Report DRAGON DANCER January 27, 2013 1:06 AM GMT
I for one think 54 holes is worse for Tiger
Report padlock January 27, 2013 10:12 AM GMT
monday finish expect to have 9-12 holes left for monday,hope fog not there today
Report callitasucit January 27, 2013 10:49 AM GMT
I would prefer 72 holes myself for Tiger. The longer an event goes on, the more the cream should distinguish itself. Ther is alot of players 3 and 4 back who could have miracle round today. They will have thinned out after third round, leaving only a few potential challengers. Tiger could conceivably be a shot behind say Horschel after rd 3, yet be a shorter price for victory. 4 rounds please.
Report Eddie the eagle January 27, 2013 1:43 PM GMT
Looking at the forecast, I think we can rule out the 54 hole scenario.
  Fair weather both today and tomorrow with some wind today to blow away any morning fog.
Report Merlin7 January 27, 2013 2:19 PM GMT
http://www.wunderground.com/weather-forecast/US/CA/La_Jolla.html

Cloud cover at 152m.

Dont know how high the course is but the cloud cover/fog was at 61m 1/2 an hour ago so appears to be lifting.
Report aberdonia January 27, 2013 2:28 PM GMT
Farmers Ins Open ‏@FarmersInsOpen
TODAY: 6a- Gates open to the public 7a- 3rd round begins on South (#1 & #10) After third round, final round begins- No cut & no repairs


We have golf.  Cool
Report lizardlouis January 27, 2013 7:18 PM GMT
Are they playing rounds 3 and 4 today, does anyone know please?
Report neilwarnocksfalseteeth January 27, 2013 7:21 PM GMT
starting round 4 today if possible,but a monday finish predicted!
Report mengmeng January 27, 2013 7:21 PM GMT
they are starting round 4 today and finishing tomorrow as far as i know
Report wowiezowiee January 27, 2013 7:26 PM GMT
should get the 4th round front 9 done for leaders ...hopefully steve M still involved :)
Report lizardlouis January 27, 2013 7:44 PM GMT
Thanks!
Report Mighty Whites 2008 January 27, 2013 9:03 PM GMT
a masterclass from the master
Report Ski-Wiz January 27, 2013 9:09 PM GMT
Looking at the score and the odds, being Sunday, you would think it's soon all over but hey ho, another round tomorrow.
Report the stunning January 27, 2013 9:49 PM GMT
It's over!!!
Distance control is amazing by tiger,has it on a string.
Report toberaheena January 27, 2013 9:55 PM GMT
@the stunning..............I am in need of a Tiger win and don't want to jinx him but I have to agree. Just looking at my golf comp. team. I have Snadeker, Watney, and guess who my reserve was. Yes. Tiger. The lame duck today is Dustin Johnson. Looking to try and remember when a player was trading at less than 1.09 with over a round to go. Boring to watch but hey, have to admit he is playing immaculate golf today.
Report therhino January 27, 2013 10:05 PM GMT
2013 is shaping up as a great year. I hope this isn't a flash in the pan, I would love to see him get back to where he was even for just a year or two.
Report Gerbs January 27, 2013 10:09 PM GMT
any idea how many holes tiger will get in on his 4th round
Report trebor January 27, 2013 10:14 PM GMT
They can play till around 1.15 am uk time
Report Gerbs January 27, 2013 10:16 PM GMT
thanks
Report lizardlouis January 27, 2013 10:19 PM GMT
What time (UK) do we think they will play till tonight?
Report lizardlouis January 27, 2013 10:20 PM GMT
Sorry, just read earlier post.
Report Mighty Whites 2008 January 27, 2013 10:34 PM GMT
the winner without market needs a reshuffle
Report Ski-Wiz January 27, 2013 11:26 PM GMT
Woody has never shot all four rounds in the 60s.........SurprisedSurprised

Suddenly makes 1.15 value for laying.Scared
Report Gerbs January 27, 2013 11:28 PM GMT
another shocker of a drive on 2 for tiger
Report therhino January 27, 2013 11:30 PM GMT
Started missing but both misses in decent places. Had a decent angle in on the 1st and where that last tee finished he should have a decent angle again. If ur gonna miss with the drive, miss by lots.
Report Gerbs January 27, 2013 11:31 PM GMT
he  always seems to get away with them
Report Puggy4 January 27, 2013 11:33 PM GMT
any mention how long sky are staying .kn air?
Report Gerbs January 27, 2013 11:47 PM GMT
schedule says 1am but they will prob stay untill the end of play
Report Puggy4 January 27, 2013 11:49 PM GMT
cheers Gerbs
Report therhino January 28, 2013 12:01 AM GMT
par 3 comes at the right time for Tiger
Report dylansdad January 28, 2013 12:12 AM GMT
nice chip in
Report lendmeurwheelbarrow January 28, 2013 12:14 AM GMT
-2 first 4 holes and nowhere near a fairway yet
Report dylansdad January 28, 2013 12:24 AM GMT
has brandt dropped or his is price jump cos tiger -2 ??????????
Report dylansdad January 28, 2013 12:24 AM GMT
for this round
Report dylansdad January 28, 2013 12:28 AM GMT
just had my answer 5mins after is price drifted to 200
Report mac 40 January 28, 2013 9:32 AM GMT
Hi guys,  they are starting again at 11.10am, what time in the uk ?

Thanks Mac
Report Eddie the eagle January 28, 2013 9:48 AM GMT
7.10 pm UK time
Report mac 40 January 28, 2013 9:53 AM GMT
Thanks Eddie
Report miss anomaly January 28, 2013 10:17 AM GMT
11:10 local time, or 11:10 EST? There's a three-hour time difference...
Report miss anomaly January 28, 2013 10:20 AM GMT
Looking into it a bit more I think Eddie was spot on.
Report fringe up walk on January 28, 2013 6:49 PM GMT
Does anybody want to lay Snedeker in top 5 or top 10 markets???
Currently looking to back at 1.49 and 1.2 respectfully as i laid both early in the week .
Cheer
Report Ski-Wiz January 28, 2013 7:50 PM GMT
Why do people line up on the side so closed together of Tiger's shot?........do they have a death wish?
Report Sports Fan January 28, 2013 8:34 PM GMT
Just missed that 1.4!  Who got it?
Report Gerbs January 28, 2013 8:39 PM GMT
what a bunker shot from tiger
Report sandsave January 28, 2013 8:41 PM GMT
yes a great sandsave!
Report Back High Lay Low January 28, 2013 8:52 PM GMT
Tiger pretending to be interested in horshack's yarn.
Report NorwichRob January 28, 2013 8:56 PM GMT
Great effort from Fowler to be pushing for a place, shame for outright backers that tournament over after 1st round though..
Report Mighty Whites 2008 January 28, 2013 9:16 PM GMT
watney falling apart
Report fringe up walk on January 28, 2013 9:55 PM GMT
Has to be the worst coverage ever, no more PGA Tour for me, bar the majors. I feel like im ageing watching this stuff.
Report Mighty Whites 2008 January 28, 2013 10:21 PM GMT
has anyone every hit so many poor shots in a round and shot under par in a round. Amazing scoring by woods in rd4
Report The Bhoys January 28, 2013 10:30 PM GMT
wat happens if its a dead heat for 2nd w/o woods?
Report Deplasterer January 28, 2013 10:36 PM GMT
half the stake I believe.
Report The Bhoys January 28, 2013 10:38 PM GMT
only a cuple of quid but im 14.50 red on teater and 5.50 red on snedeker. so lose both half of those?
Report Deplasterer January 28, 2013 10:44 PM GMT
Yep, thats correct The bhoys.
Report The Bhoys January 28, 2013 10:47 PM GMT
horay lol. cheers mate
Report toberaheena January 28, 2013 11:10 PM GMT
That was a pure slog for everybody. Why was there no slow play warning for the 2nd last group? Anyway, Tiger wins deservedly and we move on. Rickie Fowler did impress. Can he put 4 rounds together in the near future. He has the talent. Maybe needs, as I suggested before, a motivator to work with him.
Report toberaheena January 28, 2013 11:13 PM GMT
When Tiger went into the headland of silage, he did not want to find the ball, funny one that, and the officials never batted an eyebrow.
Report Mighty Whites 2008 January 28, 2013 11:13 PM GMT
nearly 4 hours to play 11 holes!
Report Mighty Whites 2008 January 28, 2013 11:15 PM GMT
it was in a hazard toberheena
Report BCDoug January 29, 2013 5:07 AM GMT
Unable to watch the final round live but I was wondering if anyone has a record of the lowest price laid on Walker w/o Tiger? Missed birdie putt on 18 was very expensive..
Report toberaheena January 29, 2013 4:48 PM GMT
@themuppetmoans..... As far as I know, Tiger did not play a tournament recently in Asia because they would not match his appearance fee. Is this correct and if so, do you think Tiger can now ask and get those fees now after this performance. I think the man has some issues he has not addressed yet and he will not get back to where he wants to be unless he admits his demon. But he is a brilliant natural talent.
Report Mighty Whites 2008 January 29, 2013 7:13 PM GMT
Walker was around 3 when he tied the lead and stayed around this figure until he had his bogey. Didn't go that short on 18
Report BCDoug January 29, 2013 8:30 PM GMT
OK thanks MW. I left a lay on at 3 just in case which was taken so in that case don't feel too bad...
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