Montgomerie

hes now talking ryder cr-A--p

tact was never this dope's strongpoint anyway
total moron

the tiger bashing by monty is unreal

To be fair, he's often full of praise for Tiger.

Shocking!!Terrible addition to the sky team....thank god for mute buttons!Why they have to keep going on about the RC...is a joke its over a month away..ffs.

monty lives in his own bubble

BITTER

All credit to the fella for nailing his bllx to the mast..

Your all total idiots, Monty is a fantastic addition to the Golf TV team and his quip about Tiger been tackled by Norman Hunter was a classic.   He says what everyone is thinking which on TV land is that a no no for some reason?

Golf commentators in this country are generally shocking

Maybe some exceptions but the US ones beat them in every respect

Couldn't agree less. Nantz class, but other than that Murray and Radar different class.

Not to mention John E Morgan

Murray is terrible.

The man makes me cringe.

Much prefer the yanks, Miller and Maltbie are a great listen.

As for Monty, he is so bad, that he is entertaining.

This week we have been told all about his ryder cup exploits at Kiawah, by the "great" man himself.

Mentioning "my comeback" against Calc was my particular favourite "monty moment" this week.

The Yank comms are too busy trying to be funny, cracking jokes every 5 seconds.

apparently monty was captain of europe when we won the last ryder cup....you wouldnt know because he hardly mentions it.
  I do vaguely recall that we had a much better squad of players to pick from but monty made a game of it by picking hopeless harrington instead of one of the worlds best match players...Casey.
   yeah well done monty you big useless lump of lard...hope and expect Olazabal picks the strongest team we have and doesnt perform any old pals acts like monty/harrington.

????   So much hatred of Monty on here.

One of the best ever from these isles.

Very strange behaviour, just as Rory is about to lift the Wanamaker.

good player but pompous scottish snob who is so far up his own back side its untrue. excellent knowledge of course management etc but as I said earlier...turned a relatively simple task into hard work by picking one of the worst match players we have instead of one of the best in the world....but still likes to make it sound like it was his captaincy that won the day ffs.

Still can't quite grasp why you choose a great moment in wee Rory's career to harp on like the Mother In Law (God rest her soul), to start moaning about an ex player...

Your choice, I guess.

because its boring watching the golf...it was over 2 hours ago....would still say the same things about monty tomorrow morning...good player...good knowledge...awful ryder cup captain...dont like him....well done rory...tigeresque type win.

Yeah.....

What a tit monty is..... i like his new line 'rory will be the hottest fav EVER going into the masters'

what a muppet to put it kindly

the us commentators have sir nick faldo, winner of 6 majors
we get mrs doubtfire, winner of 0 majors and a total bore

why or why do sky have to use their own commentary team for majors

They were playing for second!!  Rory won by 8 shots it was never close!!  Monty was right!!

yeah--i will concede that

Drove me mad this weekend. Added nothing imo.

Doesnt he undersatnd that most people watching have even a modicum of knowledge about golf?

The think I think he doesn't grasp is - we know he was a good Ryder cup player. We know he captained Europe in 2010.

He does not have to mention this every time a European player plays his shot.

His commentary style is almost patronising at times.

He needs to understand that Major championships are equally, if not more important, than the Ryder cup.

hes quite good if he dropped ryder cup mentions

if he won a couple of majors the ryder cup wouldnt be mentioned

the 4 majors are 100x better than ryder cup frolics

Monty got it 100% correct for the USPGA , for anyone prepared to listen and analyse what he was saying . Those who oppose anything Monty says got whupped , up their noses , you have to take people as you find them  , and variety is the spice of life .

Monty said early on Sunday morning that the course and conditions were set up for a player like Rory , and I guess Monty would know that .  Unlike most of the correspondents on here who would not have a fraction of Monty's insight into what goes on out there in a Major .

All may not like Monty , his background , his reflections , but he knows whats going on , he knows the game , he won a lot , captained a Ryder Cup winning side , plus had a tremendous record in it himself . Like him myself , but then I tend to listen and analyse what people are saying , and discount the irrelevant , bye ball etc . Could have produced a nice short priced stress free bet for anyone who did listen .  That cant be bad , and he said it more than once .

You had plenty on after Monty said ?

i used to think monty was alright but he is a total tool, his bias towards the euro players is just embarrassing , and he just loves to have a good dig at tiger , i also reckon he has a picture of rory in his wallet (NAP)

His bashing of Tiger is a disgrace frankly.

Tiger has done more for Golf than Monty could ever dream of. It's about time he recognised that.

He's not everyone's cup of tea, but he got it spot on and deserves some credit for saying so - he calls it as he sees it which is no bad thing.

Tiger was back to his spitting antics and was a bit of a drama queen when he got a thistle in his leg - so he deserved the comments he got from the pundits.

at least monty is entertaining - the complete opposite of bruce critchley

just comes off as bitter
and who cares about the ryder cup major week ffs

So Kelly, anyone who doesnt like Monty doesnt understand the game?

You sound almost as patronising as him! Regardless of what he has achieved, he is a pompous, self absorbed oaf.

Didn't he stop some embarrassing pictures being made public at about the time of the Ryder Cup?. Or am I thinking of someone else- all seems forgotten now?

Cant catch me , if you cant accept honest comments re Monty guess there is not much point talking to you .

Just dont understand those who are so anti Monty  , unless they have personal experience to back it up .  His media appearances have always looked OK to me overall .

Tiger to me was "acting up " last night in that incident , particularly as I suspect he knew he was not going to win .  Thought more of him . Monty just verbalised my thoughts .

I don't have an issue with monty on the box, in fact I like to play Monty Bingo, but I can totally understand why he rubs people up the wrong way.

For all of Tiger's 'antics' on the course, Monty was an absolute horror on the fairways.

i think overall he's a good addition to the sky team, entertaining even if he sounds a bit pompous at times. but like so many others are finding he categorises everything in ryder cup times, banging on about "our players", not realising alot of us don't give a toss about the ryder cup

Sky's golf commentary team (and the Beeb's for that matter) badly needs some new blood. Could do worse than starting from scratch in fact. Currently it's just a gravy train with the same tired old cliches every big tournament

Exactly RF.... he was probably the surliest, rudest, most up his own @rse golfer I have ever had the displeasure to watch live. Several times.

Yes he can put a smile on for the cameras, who cant?

I despised Gary Neville as a player, but am willing to accept he is an excellent pundit Kelly. Its not an 'anti Monty' thing, just because I didnt like him as a golfer. I just dont rate him as a pundit. He isnt particularly insightful, considering he has made it to the top and played against most of these. And is self obsessed.

Cannot understand why anyone did not like Monty as a golfer .  For about 10 years he WAS the European tour , played all the time , won hugely , always gave the punters a run for their money ,I made a lot of money on him throughout that period . Monty's ball control in his good years was sublime , always pin high and sometimes close , and he was a good putter before Father Time caught up with him .

He got tetchy with the crowds in USA in particular , but from what I glean a fair percentage of those who go to watch golf in USA do not know the game .  That would be foreign to Monty with his background and I can understand any resentment that generated .

Regarding punditry , if its tipping winners his latest effort was 100% .  His comments about Tiger were also spot on from the occasions I heard , Tiger ( for him ) played slipshod golf on Saturday and Sunday . Thursday and Friday Tiger was all smiles , putting like God , but things changed on the last two days and Monty duly noted that . Monty was bigging up Ian Poulter in the run , you could criticise his judgement there , but its part of a commentators job to keep the audience awake , and they were worried that Rory was getting into a position to put the tournament to bed and thats not good for ratings .

Incidentally Tiger has never come from off the pace to win a Major . Statistically does that indicate anything ?

Kelly. you dont seem to be getting this. I have nothing but respect for him as a golfer. Whats that got to do with what Im saying here? Its completely besides the point.

I have been in his company a few times... and followed him live about a dozen times (only in the UK). The way he spoke to his caddy, the marshalls, the crowd, was absolutely disgusting at times. I have met several sports stars and Monty is without any shadow of doubt the biggest c*nt I've ever come across. Maybe I caught him on a bad day. Every time.

I would be willing to let him off all of that if I felt he was a really good pundit. I just dont think he is. Maybe I'm so set against him, he cant ever win me over, but I am not small minded and petty enough to criticise the bloke just because I dont like him. Its not even a case of me criticising his judgement.... Thats a separate issue imo. I had to mute him over the weekend, something I seldom do.

We're all entitled to our opinion.

I have Sky Sports golf coverage on constant mute when they have their own commentary team in the states. I wish they would give us a red button option to listen to the US commentary team

Sorry , Cant catch me , re your post of 21.14 when you said "just because I didn't like him as a golfer "-- seems at odds with your subsequent latest post of 21.47 . I took that as read  , that you didn't like Monty as a golfer .

Regarding what Monty is like as a person , few will get the opportunity to judge that particularly if he goes the commentator route where everyone watches their p's and q's . On TV he comes across as OK , to me , and he knows the game unlike some of the other sporting pundits/ celebrities  who pop up on our screens at various times .

I think he was a very talented player mate, one of the best. I'd say thats beyond dispute. I just never liked how he acted on the course.

No thread on Monty should ever be allowed to pass without using the words "Valderrama" and "Jakarta".

Those two incidents say more about the man than even he does about himself.

Plus Jacks line of sight , Tigers ball in the soup , Nicks trampoline ball at Wentworth , Darrens overnight magic grass cut , Ernies invisible pile of rubbish , VJ , etc.

Golf is littered with incidents , most of the pros know how to take advantage .  Darren the only one with completely clean hands in that list . But part of the problem is that the rules are out of date , and depend too much on the letter of the law rather than the spirit of the game . The rules evolved more than a century ago , and need a bit of scrutiny , some of the situations we have seen bring golf close to being in disrepute when high profile players are involved .

If Monty had won a few majors he'd barely mention the Ryder Cup.He only goes on about it so much because his ego is being destroyed when he sees guys like G-Mac,Rory,Darren Clarke,Harrington all being major winners so Monty feels,maybe subconciously,that to be able to pass comment on these major winners,he has to beef up his own achievments.

He actually spoiled part of sun nights coverage for me by his obsession with the RC when we were watching Rory's march to another major.
He needs to be told that majors massively outweigh the RC in a golfer's career and it's typical of the mans ego that he can barely bring himself to mention other players success without mentioning the bloody Ryder Cup!!!

As for him having a go at Tiger's on course "antics",Monty's behaviour was an absolute disgrace on the Golf Course

good post clarkey

Murray's outburst was sparked by an incident at the London Club last Friday. Montgomerie, who had hit into water at the 13th, did his usual deliciously daft thing in picking on some unsuspecting person to share in the blame. In this instance, it was a Sky cameraman who was pointing a recorder in his direction.

Montgomerie asked: "Do you have a problem?" The cameraman said no and Montgomerie, after a bit of thought, said a condescending: "You're only here because of me. Remember that."

Murray called for Montgomerie to apologise and said he had let people down, including the European Tour.

Thats the best point of all, monty was a complete and utter misery on the course.

Plus dont agree with comment about he says what he sees. Never heard him mock westwood for example and said hes fcking hopeless with the short game.

Did he really say that Tiger was "making a drama" out of being stung by that cactus???!!!

The biggest drama queen of the lot,who'd have demanded the greenkeeper burn all cactus on the course immediately....."but Colin,it'll cause a massive bush fire and possibly ruin the course"........"i dont care,my ankle is itchy and mother's not around to rub cream on it.Burn it all now,im Monty the Ryder cup captain and you've only been greenkeeper here for 10 years because of me"

The above is,of course an exaggeration........Monty would never ask his mother to do such menial tasks

I played with my club pro yesterday, who knows monty well from his junior days when they played golf for scotland together, and they are still friends today. Apparently he is actually very shy, which you can see when he is on camera when he looks at the floor etc.. Also he gives up a lot of his time for charity events, for example he turned up unexpectedly to open a course for underprivileged people in Glasgow which my pro's father had created through charity work. Interestingly the pro said Monty hasnt done himself any favours on the course, and should have left the talking to the caddy while on course. My opinion of Monty was low before yesterday, thanks to the way he comes across on TV an all of the talk about the ryder cup, however I am willing to listen to someone who knows him well and has played with him ALOT rather than forming my own opinion of him just from watching TV.
As a side the pro said his 5 yard fade that he hit EVERY time was quite something to behold!

I have seen Monty a few times on the course and he has not come across very nice at all. I have seen him go out of his way to try and embarrass spectators and camera men in the middle of a round. He was a brilliant player but i have no respect for him whatsoever in terms of the way he conducts himself on a golf course.

one thing i would like to add to this, tiger on sunday when out of contention walked off the green and signed his ball and gave it to a lad/boy who was disabled at the side of the green a nice gesture i thought monty and ewan were in the comentry box and said nothing, those two always bang on about his behaviour on the course . blind sided only pick on his bad moments. we all have them.


tiger is a sporting legend , monty hates that . fact

If Monty has one shred and decency or dignity he should pass up on Ryder cup commentary duties for this time round imo

Rolling back the years and getting those moobs to wobble into contention.

Monty is and always will be my favourite player,he owes me a fortune though as I always had and still will have a tenner on when he plays a major.

Weall know why they call you Madvlad

Montgomerie on the ryder cup.

'' Winning as an individual is nice but winning as a team is so much better '.


Said by a man with no major wins!