It really is a silly system....in two parts, the first part are those with odds that should be 8/1 or under and the second part are those that will go off 17/2 or higher, impossible to tell early doors of course as the odds will change through the day but I will stick to the two categories once posted. The system, a bit complicated but is based around horses that were unplaced last time out. In the win markets Section one has an average strike rate of around 17% and section two the strike rate is obviously lower and around 4.5%. In the place markets Section One has a strike rate of 44% and section two just 18%..its a silly system so will end in tears of course!
I've got on Seaport in the 7:15 w/p at 22/4.7 way to early as it's now 26/5.7
GL
P.S. I really wanna do a forcast with Seaborn but there's no market
Well done again TigerI've got on Seaport in the 7:15 w/p at 22/4.7 way to early as it's now 26/5.7GLP.S. I really wanna do a forcast with Seaborn but there's no market
Section 1.....just the three all borderline between either section
I Will Walk (IRE) 2.20 Navan 13/2 Union (IRE) 5.05 Newbury 8/1 Youre Cool 7.15 Wolverhampton 8/1
In between for now ........
Today 7.15 Youre Cool Wolverhampton (LH) 9 Morris, Luke 17/2 Shaw, D
Section 2..........
Today 1.45 Dont Let Go (IRE) Navan (LH) 15 Doyle, R A (3) 11/1 ODwyer, Conor Today 2.30 I Am A Dreamer Ayr (Str) 24 Heard, Tyler (7) 33/1 Midgley, P T Today 3.40 Bungee Jump (IRE) Ayr (Str) 24 Kingscote, Richard 50/1 Harris, Miss G Today 3.45 Danis Boy (IRE) Gowran Park (RH) 14 Foley, Shane 12/1 Fahy, P A Today 4.05 Touch Of Oscar (IRE) Navan (LH) 9 Slevin, J J 9/1 OBrien, Joseph Patrick Today 4.20 Is Fantastic (IRE) Gowran Park (RH) 14 Lee, W J 11/1 McLoughlin, Hilary Today 4.30 Lyndon B (IRE) Newbury (Str) 17 Kirby, Adam 40/1 Flint, J L Today 5.15 Crosse Fire Wolverhampton (LH) 10 Fisher, Jonathan (5) 33/1 Dixon, Scott Today 5.35 Make Haste Slowly Newmarket (Rowley) (Str) 12 Smith, Sophie 22/1 Elsworth, D R C Today 7.15 Teepee Time Wolverhampton (LH) 9 Rooke, George (5) 33/1 Mullineaux, M Today 8.15 Glutnforpunishment Wolverhampton (LH) 10 Shepherd, Callum 16/1 Littmoden, N P
Saturday....Section 1.....just the three all borderline between either sectionI Will Walk (IRE) 2.20 Navan 13/2Union (IRE) 5.05 Newbury 8/1Youre Cool 7.15 Wolverhampton 8/1In between for now ........Today 7.15 Youre Cool Wolve
Union (IRE) Form 262456 Not in top form of late, making effort over 2f out but never dangerous when finishing sixth of 7 at Leicester (11.8f) 12 days ago. Handicapper is slowly relinquishing his grip at least.
Well Done AGAIN! TigerUnion (IRE) Form 262456Not in top form of late, making effort over 2f out but never dangerous when finishing sixth of 7 at Leicester (11.8f) 12 days ago. Handicapper is slowly relinquishing his grip at least.
Arcavallo (IRE) 2.05 Hamilton 9/2 Honorable (FR) 3.20 Plumpton 9/2 Skylanna Breeze (IRE) 3.20 Plumpton 7/1 Sandy Steve 4.00 Chelmsford City 11/2
Section 2........two of them might end up in Section 1
Today 2.05 Lara Silvia Hamilton (Str) 12 Watts, Shannon (7) 9/1 Today 2.05 Laoise (USA) Hamilton (Str) 12 Eaves, Tom 28/1 Today 3.15 **** Encore (IRE) Listowel (LH) 16 Hayes, Brian 9/1
Sunday.Section 1..........Arcavallo (IRE) 2.05 Hamilton 9/2Honorable (FR) 3.20 Plumpton 9/2Skylanna Breeze (IRE) 3.20 Plumpton 7/1Sandy Steve 4.00 Chelmsford City 11/2Section 2........two of them might end up in Section 1Today
You got 3 selections in the 2:05, all of them fairly hard to back against the inform Favourite, except Lara Silvia might represent value at 12/3.6 (IMHO) as it's back below its winning mark last year
Think I'm going to back the Favourite Hard Solution @ 4.2
GL
You got 3 selections in the 2:05, all of them fairly hard to back against the inform Favourite,except Lara Silvia might represent value at 12/3.6 (IMHO) as it's back below its winning mark last yearThink I'm going to back the Favourite Hard Solution
Laoise has only placed once in it's previous 16 races, and that was back in 2018
gawd knows how you manage to select it and get it to make the frame
Well done
Laoise has only placed once in it's previous 16 races, and that was back in 2018gawd knows how you manage to select it and get it to make the frameWell done
Sunday 7 went to post, no winners but the one big priced placed horse at 50/1 that returned at a Bfsp of 33.5 in the 2 place market and 16.5 in the normal place market.
Sunday 7 went to post, no winners but the one big priced placed horse at 50/1 that returned at a Bfsp of 33.5 in the 2 place market and 16.5 in the normal place market.
Section 1........73 selections giving 15 winners and a return at Bfsp of 105.6 points
Section 2........208 selections giving 13 winners and a return at Bfsp of 213.4 points
Not including some huge priced paced ones in Section 2 but includes all those had drifted to hopeless prices of up to 505 on Betfair.
Scores update....Section 1........73 selections giving 15 winners and a return at Bfsp of 105.6 pointsSection 2........208 selections giving 13 winners and a return at Bfsp of 213.4 pointsNot including some huge priced paced ones in Section 2 but inc
Section 1........73 selections giving 15 winners and a return at Bfsp of 105.6 points
Section 2........208 selections giving 13 winners and a return at Bfsp of 213.4 points
outstanding.... round of applause.
Section 1........73 selections giving 15 winners and a return at Bfsp of 105.6 pointsSection 2........208 selections giving 13 winners and a return at Bfsp of 213.4 pointsoutstanding.... round of applause.
If all of those that went off at a Bfsp of 50 or higher that would eliminate quite a few losers in Section 2 and make the figures look better, but of course it only takes one of them to oblige to make a difference so I'm loathe to do so.
If all of those that went off at a Bfsp of 50 or higher that would eliminate quite a few losers in Section 2 and make the figures look better, but of course it only takes one of them to oblige to make a difference so I'm loathe to do so.
Comporta 2.40 Listowel 15/2 Stonific (IRE) 3.55 Hamilton 5/1 Talk Now (IRE) 4.30 Hamilton 13/2 Hlaitan 5.05 Hamilton 100/30 Bay Of Skaill 5.55 Fairyhouse 7/1
Today 2.45 Western Miller (IRE) Warwick (LH) 10 Obrien, P V (3) 10/1 Longsdon, C E Today 3.40 Finding Joy (IRE) Listowel (LH) 14 Ryan, Trevor (5) 22/1 Hourigan, Michael Today 3.50 War Hero (IRE) Fairyhouse (RH) 16 Ryan, Gavin 17/2 McGuinness, Adrian Today 3.55 Dance King Hamilton (RH) 10 Muir, Paula (3) 17/2 Easterby, T D Today 4.10 Agent Of Fortune Leicester (RH) 10 Crouch, Hector 10/1 Moore, G L Today 4.15 Automatic (IRE) Listowel (LH) 5 OKeeffe, Darragh 20/1 Burke, W J Today 4.25 Vape Wolverhampton (LH) 9 Doyle, Brett 22/1 Carroll, A W Today 5.05 Festival Day Hamilton (RH) 8 Fanning, Joe 12/1 Johnston, M Today 5.35 Windsor Cross (IRE) Hamilton (RH) 9 Murtagh, Connor (3) 11/1 Fahey, R A Today 6.25 Too Hard To Hold (IRE) Fairyhouse (RH) 11 Whelan, R P 12/1 Davison, Jack W Today 8.30 Monaadhil (IRE) Wolverhampton (LH) 11 Sullivan, James P 22/1 Carr, Mrs R A
Monday.Section 1........Comporta 2.40 Listowel 15/2Stonific (IRE) 3.55 Hamilton 5/1Talk Now (IRE) 4.30 Hamilton 13/2Hlaitan 5.05 Hamilton 100/30Bay Of Skaill 5.55 Fairyhouse 7/1Could be in either section...Today 2.15
Had a look at the official figures so far on Horseracebase.com since we started and they are quite a bit different to mine, with horses odds changing through the day, quite a lot exchange places from Section 1 to Section 2 and vice versa and with me copying and pasting them from there on to here and then putting them in different sections it appears that I've edited out at 40/1 winner returned at 47 point something such is life, at the end of the month I'll print them all up and put them all on here, and see where we go from there.
Had a look at the official figures so far on Horseracebase.com since we started and they are quite a bit different to mine, with horses odds changing through the day, quite a lot exchange places from Section 1 to Section 2 and vice versa and with me
WD Tiger - it probably would have been a considerably bigger price if she hadn't already won two races!
She then landed a Plaice at around 7/1 in the last race too!
WD Tiger - it probably would have been a considerably bigger price if she hadn't already won two races!She then landed a Plaice at around 7/1 in the last race too!
I haven't been paying a lot of attention (pre-race) - just looking in from time to time on results/progress - But I notice there were some pretty fancy prices for Mini Milk this morning!
I haven't been paying a lot of attention (pre-race) - just looking in from time to time on results/progress - But I notice there were some pretty fancy prices for Mini Milk this morning!
5.20 Orioninverness wins at a Bfsp of 18.0 6.30 Mini Milk wins at a Bfsp of 11.5
In the 8.00 Englishman was unlucky, second at a Bfsp of 11 in the 2 place market or 5.85 in the 3 place market.
Wednesdays results....5.20 Orioninverness wins at a Bfsp of 18.06.30 Mini Milk wins at a Bfsp of 11.5 In the 8.00 Englishman was unlucky, second at a Bfsp of 11 in the 2 place market or 5.85 in the 3 place market.
The Composeur (IRE) 1.10 Perth 7/2 Hawridge Flyer 4.10 Newmarket (Rowley) 5/1 Chez Hans (GER) 4.35 Perth4/1
Section 2......... Today 2.10 Take My Hand (IRE) Listowel (LH) 14 McDonogh, D P 12/1 Mulvany, Michael Today 3.20 Kokura Listowel (LH) 10 Kelly, S B (3) 14/1 Murtagh, J P Today 3.55 Guinevere (IRE) Listowel (LH) 12 Davis, Sean 40/1 Cody, Patrick Today 3.55 Baltic Song (IRE) Listowel (LH) 12 Crosse, Nathan (5) 66/1 Comer, Luke Today 4.45 Mujid (IRE) Newmarket (Rowley) (Str) 8 Cosgrave, Pat 22/1 Wigham, M Today 5.20 Caen Na Coille (USA) Newmarket (Rowley) (Str) 5 Donohoe, Stephen 17/2 Fellowes, Charlie Today 5.40 Celtic Crown (IRE) Listowel (LH) 8 Leonard, Killian 18/1 Murphy, John Joseph Today 5.45 Frame Rate Perth (RH) 10 OFarrell, C 9/1 Jardine, I Today 7.30 Maysong Kempton (RH) 14 Ghiani, Marco (5) 17/2 Dunlop, E A L
Thursday.Section 1.The Composeur (IRE) 1.10 Perth 7/2Hawridge Flyer 4.10 Newmarket (Rowley) 5/1Chez Hans (GER) 4.35 Perth4/1Section 2.........Today 2.10 Take My Hand (IRE) Listowel (LH) 14 McDonogh, D P 12/1 Mulvany,
Aughnacurra King (IRE) 1.35 Market Rasen 6/1 Jessica Rabbit 3.20 Market Rasen 4/1 Wadiyatink Now (IRE) 4.00 Listowel 6/1 Hyperfocus (IRE) 4.05 Ripon 9/2 Carlos Felix (IRE) 4.15 Haydock 3/1 Ghepardo 8.15 Chelmsford City 15/2
Section 2.......
Some huge priced ones in amongst them, and a couple that, if well backed, would end up in Section 1.....
Today 2.00 Ablah (USA) Curragh (Str) 15 Keane, C T 10/1 McGuinness, Adrian Today 2.05 Crownthorpe Haydock (LH) 9 Murtagh, Connor (3) 16/1 Fahey, R A Today 3.25 Western Doyen (IRE) Listowel (LH) 10 OKeeffe, Sean F (3) 9/1 OBrien, V T Today 3.25 Padraic O Conaire (IRE) Listowel (LH) 10 Donoghue, K M 14/1 Dunleavy, Mrs Y Today 3.25 Dualla Time (IRE) Listowel (LH) 10 Brett, Tommy N (7) 25/1 Ryan, John Patrick Today 3.35 Good Birthday (IRE) Newmarket (Rowley) (Str) 27 Dwyer, Martin 18/1 Balding, A M Today 3.45 Hochfeld (IRE) Haydock (LH) 6 Fanning, Joe 12/1 Johnston, M Today 4.10 Ocean Eyes (IRE) Newmarket (Rowley) (Str) 16 Egan, David 50/1 Spencer, Richard Today 4.10 The Flying Ginger (IRE) Newmarket (Rowley) (Str) 16 Fallon, Cieren 50/1 Fell, Roger Today 4.20 Custers Mistake (IRE) Curragh (RH) 18 OGorman, Jessica (7) 10/1 Prendergast, Kevin Today 4.30 Pound A Stroke (IRE) Listowel (LH) 8 Brouder, Gearoid (7) 16/1 McCarthy, Eoin Christopher Today 5.00 Father Jed (IRE) Listowel (LH) 10 Maguire, Mr F 14/1 Ryan, John Patrick Today 5.15 Star Of St Louis (FR) Chelmsford City (LH) 16 Carson, William 40/1 Quinn, Denis P Today 5.40 Restless Endeavour (IRE) Ripon (Str) 10 Hutchinson, Callum (7) 14/1 Tuer, Grant
Saturday.Section 1.......Aughnacurra King (IRE) 1.35 Market Rasen 6/1Jessica Rabbit 3.20 Market Rasen 4/1Wadiyatink Now (IRE) 4.00 Listowel 6/1Hyperfocus (IRE) 4.05 Ripon 9/2Carlos Felix (IRE) 4.15 Haydock 3/1Ghepardo
seems like you been getting an enormous amount of places from Section 2 over the last few days (I've been backing them win only )
I'm away for a week, Part of me wants to wish you good luck, part of me wants to say... Save All the winners in Section 2 till I get back
seems like you been getting an enormous amount of places from Section 2 over the last few days (I've been backing them win only )I'm away for a week, Part of me wants to wish you good luck, part of me wants to say... Save All the winners in Section 2
betting-masta, yes I keep running totals which are on the thread. Tomorrow is the last day so I will copy and past a print out from Horse Race Base to show the totals for both sections.
betting-masta, yes I keep running totals which are on the thread. Tomorrow is the last day so I will copy and past a print out from Horse Race Base to show the totals for both sections.
Final day of selections, one section. I will update the final scores tomorrow at some stage.
Today 1.30 Moans Cross (USA) Huntingdon (RH) 9 Powell, Brendan 28/1 Bridgwater, D G Today 2.25 Cooldine Bog (IRE) Punchestown (RH) 13 Landers, Cathal A (5) 14/1 Slattery, Andrew Today 3.10 Move Closer (FR) Huntingdon (RH) 13 Bannister, Harry A A 11/1 Hales, A M Today 3.20 Geomatrician (FR) Bangor (LH) 9 Gregory, Fergus (3) 40/1 Murphy, Olly Today 3.45 Crystal Lad (FR) Huntingdon (RH) 6 Moore, Joshua 11/2 Moore, G L Today 4.30 Le Grand Fromage Bangor (LH) 11 Burke, Jonathan 8/1 Lacey, T Today 4.45 Fair Minded (IRE) Punchestown (RH) 18 9/1 McDonogh, Desmond - RESERVE Today 5.25 Purple Paddy Kempton (RH) 14 Crehan, Mark (5) 16/1 Fox, J C Today 5.25 Good Luck Charm Kempton (RH) 14 Clutterbuck, Rhys (7) 16/1 Moore, G L Today 6.30 Quick Breath Kempton (RH) 13 Saunders, Tyler (5) 20/1 Portman, J G Today 8.00 Quarry Beach Kempton (RH) 14 Probert, David 12/1 Candy, H Today 8.00 Sonnet Rose (IRE) Kempton (RH) 14 Dwyer, Martin 25/1 Allen, C N
Final day of selections, one section. I will update the final scores tomorrow at some stage.Today 1.30 Moans Cross (USA) Huntingdon (RH) 9 Powell, Brendan 28/1 Bridgwater, D GToday 2.25 Cooldine Bog (IRE) Punchestown (RH) 1
Section 1, those selections that went off up to a SP of 8/1.
127 bets produced 21 winners (16.54%) and a level stake loss of 4.9 points, but at Bfsp a profit of 11.65 points with a ROI of 9.17%
Section 2, those selections that were above 8/1 SP up to a Bfsp of 50.0...
331 bets produced 22 winners (6.65%)and a level stake profit of 24.5 points and a profit at Bfsp of a mammoth 110.95 points with a ROI of 33.53%
Overall that has to be a success - now the bad bit
As I was putting all these selections up before racing it meant that we missed a couple of big priced winners, ones that were backed in to a Bfsp of 50 or less but were much higher at the time of posting, therefore if you wish to be picky (where the thread selections are concerned) then the profit at Bfsp for the bigger priced selections would come down to 61.2 points instead of 110.95.
Overall a worthwhile success. Another project may be in the offing similar to this one.
Thanks to all looked in and made comments during the last month, appreciated.
After the month trial:Section 1, those selections that went off up to a SP of 8/1.127 bets produced 21 winners (16.54%) and a level stake loss of 4.9 points, but at Bfsp a profit of 11.65 points with a ROI of 9.17%Section 2, those selections that wer
Would have had a decent start for the new venture but I'll probably start another thread.
Today 12.10 Galice Macalo (FR) Warwick (LH) 11 Williams, Chester (5) 4/1 Williams, Mrs Jane Today 12.40 Castle Robin (IRE) Warwick (LH) 10 Obrien, P V (3) 100/30 Longsdon, C E Today 1.00 Gold Des Bois (FR) Clonmel (RH) 13 Power, R M 10/11F Elliott, Gordon Today 3.10 Aforementioned (FR) Clonmel (RH) 6 Kennedy, J W 11/4 Elliott, Gordon
Would have had a decent start for the new venture but I'll probably start another thread.Today 12.10 Galice Macalo (FR) Warwick (LH) 11 Williams, Chester (5) 4/1 Williams, Mrs JaneToday 12.40 Castle Robin (IRE) Warwick (LH)
Haven't been able to look in for the last couple of
days, Tiger but this was a cracking thread - right up my street!
Really good results so Good luck with the new one.
Haven't been able to look in for the last couple of days, Tiger but this was a cracking thread - right up my street!Really good results so Good luck with the new one.