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VardonVoo.
26 Aug 19 23:35
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I keep getting these Loyalty Award pop-ups but when I press the opt-in button nowt happens. I can only close the window. Usually the same offer comes by email too and I can accept it by opting in from there, but then I don't know what actually happens. No free bet arrives in my account, but I get repeat offers to opt-in again so I have no idea if my first opt-in ever registered, nor any subsequently. If I check back through my account days later I sometimes find a credited sum amongst hundreds of bets but it's by no means easy to spot. And the offers don't seem to appear on my promotions page. Does anyone else have issues like this? I had the same thing going on with the CashRace too - I was already earning rewards from it when it kept messaging me inviting me to opt in. Shoddy programming like this really irritates me.

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By:
ericster
When: 27 Aug 19 11:34
It IS a pity, I think, with all this talk of offers and special prizes/awards/whatever, that they can't just give a member a few quid without that person being made to jump through hoops. Concessions in football events that I have no intention of getting involved with aren't much use to me I'm afraid. The only way they could possibly give me something would be a free bet or double my stake to whatever in a mkt that I choose to play in, in the knowledge that I would be looking to green out at the earliest opportunity. Having said that, I'd be more than happy to let the freebie play out. Isn't going happen is it.
By:
VardonVoo.
When: 27 Aug 19 11:45
The best I got was in 2005 - Two tickets to the 5th Ashes Test at The Oval - I chose Day 4! An amazing day!

It's not the promotions themselves that are a problem, though I agree with your points - it's just that it's
hard to tell if the wretched thing is yet in operation after you think you've opted in, cos they keep offering you
the same promotion that you thought you'd already signed up to.
This latest one doesn't even tell you what the maximum free bet is worth.
By:
longbridge
When: 27 Aug 19 13:38
@ericster

"The only way they could possibly give me something would be a free bet or double my stake to whatever in a mkt that I choose to play in, in the knowledge that I would be looking to green out at the earliest opportunity"

And why would they do that?  Sorry, I am probably missing something.
By:
ericster
When: 27 Aug 19 14:19
"And why would they do that?"
My point exactly.
By:
peckerdunne
When: 27 Aug 19 20:43
I am being bombarded daily with that stupid insulting offer,reward for being a loyal customer, 'opt in't&c apply.

I wont accept it.I don't know and can't be clear on what i would be opting in too, certainly don't trust them.

It started with £5.00 offer, then £10.00 and now £15.00.

If they wish to reward me then do so, otherwise feck off and leave me alone.
By:
ericster
When: 28 Aug 19 10:02

Aug 27, 2019 -- 3:43PM, peckerdunne wrote:


I am being bombarded daily with that stupid insulting offer,reward for being a loyal customer, 'opt in't&c apply.I wont accept it.I don't know and can't be clear on what i would be opting in too, certainly don't trust them.It started with £5.00 offer, then £10.00 and now £15.00.If they wish to reward me then do so, otherwise feck off and leave me alone.


I know nothing those offers pd, obviously not such a valued customer as some of you guys.Yes I get little nuggets sent my way that I  disregard and promptly click on  delete. It's no trouble to get rid of that stuff really. I neither ask or expect anything from bf, I have the occasional bet, and all is good in my betting world.

The bottom line of your post really IS.... the bottom line.

By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 28 Aug 19 19:25
VV are you by any chance on 2% commission....if you are then you can't receive any other benefits.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 28 Aug 19 19:26

Aug 28, 2019 -- 2:25PM, Cardinal Scott wrote:


VV are you by any chance on 2% commission....if you are then you can't receive any other benefits.


?

By:
cruso
When: 29 Aug 19 21:38
Cardinal Scott • August 28, 2019 8:25 PM BST
VV are you by any chance on 2% commission....if you are then you can't receive any other benefits.

You can still get this one.

Its a genuine offer.
When you opt in you are directed to another page where you have to opt in ( again). this can be missed if you dont scroll down.
You just then bet as normal.
I`ve had a few of these and cant complain..
By:
peckerdunne
When: 30 Aug 19 16:37
I've had a new one today? would i like more rewards opt in, fcuk off...........
By:
VardonVoo.
When: 30 Aug 19 18:59
2% commission? How active do you think I am? I'm lucky if I get my commission reduced by a factor of 2% !
By:
Charlie
When: 30 Aug 19 19:34
The 2% commission was an offer made to some people by Betfair. You had to be 'invited' to take it you couldn't ask for it. It was discussed a few months ago.
By:
VardonVoo.
When: 30 Aug 19 19:45
What were the conditions? Did you guys work out why some were offered it and others weren't?
By:
Andriy
When: 30 Aug 19 21:09
It was open to everybody (in the promotions section), and started in October 2017, initially til the end of 2017, but has continued since. With the 2% comm option, there's no cash race, no BOG, no additional gimmicks of any kind. There were other promos offered with higher commission rates, i think it was 8% and 10%, but with lots of gimmicks, eg a %age of losses returned, free wheel spins etc. Once you made you choice, that was it, you couldn't change to another. Looking at the promos section now, i can't see it there, but if you contact them you may be able to still opt in if you never made a choice originally.
By:
VardonVoo.
When: 31 Aug 19 11:11
How did I miss something like that?

What happens if you end up paying Premium Charge?
Do you stay on the promotion?
If so it sounds like a God-send for PC churners.
Maybe that's the idea - to generate extra liquidity?
By:
ericster
When: 01 Sep 19 15:10
" Maybe that's the idea-to generate extra liquidity "

Jeez VardoVoo, that's precisely the idea.

Promo?
By:
ericster
When: 01 Sep 19 15:11
Apologies there mate for mis-spelling your name. No offence intended.
By:
Charlie
When: 01 Sep 19 17:27
I'm pretty sure it wasn't open to everyone. You had to be invited as I said above.
By:
The Management
When: 02 Sep 19 09:25
Hi Charlie - I'm only guessing but my guess would be that maybe the 2% offer was only made to people that are consistently winning but have not yet triggered the PC.
i.e. It looks like a great offer but actually the 2% may just accelerate the journey towards PC where they will get it all back and some more!

No idea really - just a guess - but do you fit that profile? Doing quite nicely but not yet paying PC?
By:
The Management
When: 02 Sep 19 09:52
^ Just realised my question is a bit presumptuous! - would understand if you didn't want to answer
By:
Charlie
When: 02 Sep 19 17:56
I'd rather not say. I have no clue as to how Betfair selected people for the offer. As Andrily said above there were various different offers which you could opt into.
By:
Charlie
When: 02 Sep 19 18:13
There were a few threads about it e.g.
https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31456027/anyone-else-been-offered-2-commission?post_id=555655633#flvWelcomeHeader
By:
charlatan
When: 06 Oct 19 12:02
Had a look to see how many betfair points I have at present (after noting to my surprise that I was charged 6% rather than 5% commission on some NRL winnings and trying to navigate various parts of the site which have changed since I last investigated the charging regime).

Now where points used to be the link in the my account > promotion and rewards drop-down is 'my betfair rewards (beta)'.

Points have disappeared. I'm offered the three options as per andriy's 30 aug post above. I have been paying premium charge since it was introduced.

2% seems a no brainer, but there is little in the way of details. Is there any reason not to select the 2% plan?

Meanwhile, Betfair's charges T&Cs seem to suggest Aus markets are excluded (and therefore Betfair points are still an issue in theory, but I can't see how many I have now).
By:
starship
When: 06 Oct 19 12:29
i just gone for the basic 2% and have saved my self £40 this week
By:
charlatan
When: 06 Oct 19 18:47
signed up. saving money already, although presumably half of it gets clawed back in additional premium charge
By:
nathanrh
When: 07 Oct 19 20:49
5% commission I've suggested in the past is a massive obstacle for most casual bettors to overcome so anyone given the option of 2% should really jump at it.

For me its a toss-up, my commission rate under the current discount system works out much less than the 5% fix and I manage to extract a fair amount from the Cash Race promos wbith that which I would need to factor in losing if I went to 2%.

Of course for BF its a nice easy way of identifying the sharps who I can't imagine would be very interested in a free £5 poor value multiple bet and a few spins on some very suspect games every month ;-)
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