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weekender
11 Apr 19 09:49
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I was just betting in a market which had a relatively low overround of around 10%. This means the prices offered for me to back are very competitive in relation to traditional bookmakers. However whenever I tried to back anything, the price disappeared! So the prices were not real just fake to lure me in.

In addition, all the unreal prices in the market would change simultaneously approximately every 10 seconds. Clearly there was some kind of 'fake bot' in play.

What is the point of Betfair offering prices that nobody can ever take as they are not real?

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By:
Barton Bank
When: 11 Apr 19 12:33
Welcome to the world of pathetic liquidity and betting against robots.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 11 Apr 19 14:24
im all for, more robots to kill off the IR playersWink
By:
weekender
When: 11 Apr 19 14:29
You'll have to excuse my ignorance. What is an IR player?

I still don't understand fake prices. The market was very quiet. It was hours before it went in-play. How can a fake price be posted? That is a price that is not really available for matching. Surely to do that would need the connivance of Betfair.
By:
kkkatt
When: 14 Apr 19 12:43
And that would never happen of course.......
By:
peckerdunne
When: 27 Apr 19 15:29
Remembering the days of the exchange...........

Long live the charges..
By:
dave1357
When: 27 Apr 19 17:55
next time this happens take a video, send it to betfair and ask them what is happening.  thing
By:
dave1357
When: 27 Apr 19 17:56
lol rogue "thing" in my post
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 28 Apr 19 00:45
dave nose
By:
peckerdunne
When: 29 Apr 19 14:41
shut the door
By:
VardonVoo.
When: 10 May 19 15:07
Maybe the prices appear and persist on screen until it refreshes but the bot that places them immediately cancels them. What happens after they disaappear? Do they reappear after a certain predictable time? Is it possible to submit a bet at the same price so that it appears just before the bot price is expected to and therefore matches it? Do you think the bot price is one single bet that quickly cancels or several tiny bets in quick succession so that if the first matches the bot can cancel the rest? I'm assuming bots can react without having to wait for any countdown to finish.
By:
Latalomne
When: 10 May 19 17:48
VardonVoo raises an interesting point.  How are you viewing the Exchange?  If it's via the website, it doesn't refresh automatically very regularly at all. 

I use an API product with a 1 second refresh and can't say as I have experienced what you described very often at all, certainly not often enough to make me think prices aren't real.
By:
peckerdunne
When: 10 May 19 22:34
Come on guys, ye can do better than that.

try submitting bets, cancel resubmit,different prices under the bot etc..

Its a programme and its designed to thieve you, pish you off and force you to take fixed odds or poor odds...

Look at the recent changes to graphs.

The horse info disappears now soon as they cross the line..

Its just one thing after another to make the exchange experience less than it was..

The winners are near gone, the layers too....

whats left..........follow this way for roulette and fixed odds..

The exchange is over in its original form..
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