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Lost0070
08 Jan 17 16:33
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Well i've not been on here for a good while but it's always a good place for some info.

Is there a Bet Broker or similar to place bets on UK High Street Bookies? If not does anyone have any stories or tips re: Multi Accounting or 'gnoming' as I now cannot get a reasonable size bet on with ANY bookie now .... and neither can my 'wife'.

I have read much on the internet regarding the frustration of gubbing successful punters but are we still in the dark ages with this?

Thanks in advance for all suggestions.
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Report lewisham ranger January 9, 2017 9:36 AM GMT
is this the thinly veiled, "look at me, I'm so good at gambling" thread? Excited
Report OliasOfSunhillow January 9, 2017 3:15 PM GMT
My advice is learn how to bet on here
Report porter January 10, 2017 5:16 PM GMT
yes i think most
Report porter January 10, 2017 5:19 PM GMT
i think most successful punters are banned by most bookies under the sun,,,you have to learn to trade om betfair ,,,start with small stakes till you hit the right notes ,,,then you can have as much as you like on ,,good luck
Report PeteTheBloke January 12, 2017 7:41 PM GMT
Post yer bets on here - I might be able to lay some of them for you.
Report moisok January 31, 2017 12:25 PM GMT
remember the old days putting bets on in bookies and betfair same day!!!
Report kevin7654 February 3, 2017 8:31 AM GMT
If you bet in reasonable size and are mainly betting "win only" why dont you try opening an account with a racecourse bookie?.The prices will be mainly Betfair minus about 2% i guess mostly but sometimes will be better.They wont close your account and will take a reasonable bet without having to "refer".
Report xtrader February 3, 2017 1:31 PM GMT
If you're that good you wouldn't be asking that question.
Report ZEALOT February 4, 2017 9:59 PM GMT
BACK football teams at 1.5 for £500 AND LAY ON HERE for small loss REGULARLY
Report iprefertolay February 19, 2017 1:35 AM GMT
im barred with most online bookies try using aliases n different ip addresseses sometimes get round it but not always
Report ZEALOT February 19, 2017 4:10 PM GMT
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Report henryluca February 19, 2017 10:52 PM GMT
Such a misunderstood topic--on line bookmakers have sophisticated software/algorithms which alert them to constant losing clients--there is an obligation on them -licence conditions- to act responsibly ----as part of that responsibility/responsible conduct- they will refuse bets from punters who are losing constantly - otherwise amongst other things they may be held responsible--been some casino court cases on point -

The solution is fairly simple--fill out an assets and liability form they provide---let them see you have income assets-over and above rent/food money etc etc and they will oblige....

Punters constantly losing over say 600 hundred per week are not clients they want unless they can show they can afford those loses...-not sure of the threshold but number mentioned is example.

Unfortunately for the egos of those banned --its not always about being too clever----
Report iprefertolay February 20, 2017 6:45 PM GMT
the reason they ban me is "my account is uneconomical for them to sustain"    basically im winning. Bookies dont want winners they want losers nor do they want arbers. ive read the book been there n bought the t shirt.
Report Angela Rebecchi February 20, 2017 9:24 PM GMT
They close down anyone with any sense, they want mug punters or casino junkies. Sad as they should allow all punters, within reason, especially when making £80m a year.
Report iprefertolay February 21, 2017 2:03 AM GMT
angela i couldnt agree more.. ionce tried to put a fiver on big brother contestant i was limited to 0.06p coz they new i was winning or arbing.... simple.....i was taking them for mugs......bookies dont like being taking for a ride.....they want mugs


they will do anything to maintain there profits i will try anything to take some of it
Report ROBBIE BOX February 21, 2017 3:51 PM GMT
I've rarely won over £1000 but I'm banned from Best Price Guarantee and special offers, IE free bet if horse finishes second, by three different bookies. They will all let me bet at SP and take a price that's not BOG but I won't use them at all on principle.
Luckily there are plenty of new online bookies opening up all the time and you can always use this exchange (not the sportsbook)
Report iprefertolay February 21, 2017 6:21 PM GMT
robbie i agree that you can always create new accounts with new online bookies also all bookiew will let me back spo nly but thats for mug punters. to win you need an edge!!
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH February 21, 2017 7:10 PM GMT

Jan 10, 2017 -- 11:19AM, porter wrote:


i think most successful punters are banned by most bookies under the sun,,,you have to learn to trade om betfair ,,,start with small stakes till you hit the right notes ,,,then you can have as much as you like on ,,good luck


then you pay premium charge if you win, it is very hard to get on with the high street bookies unless you are a mug / punter, exchanges hit the winners harder, winners are not welcome anywhere nowadays !!

Report iprefertolay February 21, 2017 10:02 PM GMT
please tell the truth..... you can avoid the premium charge by actually winning little on fair or even losing on fair yet winning overall....... but where your winning bets land the bookies in question wont be impressed,  hence closed accounts, believe me ive been there!! then reinvent your self asi have previously pointed out to outwit the bookies.... be one step ahead...the only way  yes n u must be able to trade on fair
Report henryluca February 22, 2017 3:19 AM GMT
Banks dont shouldnt  lend money to those who cant afford the loan---for the good of the would be borrower

Bookmakers wont/shouldnt  take bets from those that they believe cant afford to lose----for the good of the punter

Tell yourselves otherwise---it is a better feeling  Laugh
Report iprefertolay February 22, 2017 11:29 PM GMT
mmmmm henry do you really believe bookies put the punter welfare before thier huge profits??

get real...thet are in to win and anyone who hits thier profits gets banned

why do bookies flood the high street with FOBT machines for punters wellbeing??  or perhaps to swell thier profits??

get real henry
Report iprefertolay February 22, 2017 11:35 PM GMT
as for banks henry yes banks give loans to customers who cant repay.....have you ever heard of the sub prime housing market in the USA  tens of thousands lost thier homes and it caused the financial crisis!!
Banks are rogues and will take your house n charge u rip off interest rates before they do!!
Report henryluca February 23, 2017 1:40 AM GMT
The world has changed since the sub prime days and even casinos have a 'duty of care'.

There is a lot of consumer protectionism policies. Gamblers need protection against themselves---just show a corporate bookmaker an assets and liability statement and if it shows you can afford to lose then you wont have a problem---

Nonsense about 'I am so smart they wont let me lose more than one dollar' talk is just really really really misguided ego...Laugh

But its good anal gossip
Report henryluca February 23, 2017 1:43 AM GMT
Banks are rogues and will take your house n charge u rip off interest rates before they do!!

Banks do and charge what you agreed to under your loan agreement----why blame the banks for enforcing their rights...Confused

I dont get it-----the borrower cant pay--and the banks are the rogues Confused[:confused:
Report Angela Rebecchi February 23, 2017 3:17 AM GMT
henry must be fishing. All bookies close down any sort of shrewd gambler and let the bad gamblers continue. That's just a fact.
Report iprefertolay February 23, 2017 6:41 PM GMT
you hit the nail right on the head angela well said ps     henry is a knob
Report henryluca February 24, 2017 5:26 AM GMT
lewisham ranger 09 Jan 17 09:36 Joined: 08 Aug 02 | Topic/replies: 1,399 | Blogger: lewisham ranger's blog

is this the thinly veiled, "look at me, I'm so good at gambling" thread?


Yes it is Lewis--yes it is

and of course bookies 'new'--iprefer was winning---

iprefertolay 21 Feb 17 02:03 Joined: 16 Sep 02 | Topic/replies: 1,108 | Blogger: iprefertolay's blog

angela i couldnt agree more.. ionce tried to put a fiver on big brother contestant i was limited to 0.06p coz they new i was winning or arbing.... simple.....i was taking them for mugs......bookies dont like being taking for a ride.....they want mugs



LaughLaugh
Report iprefertolay February 24, 2017 6:32 PM GMT
i simply state facts henry   ps the bookie in question was betbright
Report iprefertolay February 24, 2017 6:57 PM GMT
henry the bookies use a traffic light system on whether to accept bets limit refuse or refer to traders
if your account is winning with the bookies you will soon find your bets being either refused or limited
if your account is losing with the bookie your
bets are unlikely to be reffered and will be accepted
if you constantly place bets when the price is out of line n always best price you will also be refered
in essence they dont want winners simply losers.....they are protecting there profits.

as for this duty of care crap...bookies must be well pissed off making huge profits at the expense of punters along with some punters hooked on FOBTS machines losing everything.
what do the bookies do in light of this?.......open more shops in the high street with more brand spanking FOBT machines!!!!!
Report iprefertolay February 24, 2017 11:31 PM GMT
henry i didnt post the thread im not hear to self praise my self im telling you facts in the real world....walk down your high street for a start
Report henryluca February 25, 2017 2:21 AM GMT
Iprefertolay--all good-throw us a lay every now and then

GL
Report iprefertolay February 25, 2017 2:41 AM GMT
why should help knobs like hendry jesus is that the best you can offer/ I REST MY CASE
Report henryluca February 25, 2017 2:57 AM GMT
why should help knobs like hendry jesus is that the best you can offer/

Not sure what you want ---did you want me to change my opinion and agree with yours

Confused

I said ''all good''--in other words I respect your opinion ie. all the winning punters get banned --if your account is winning with the bookies you will soon find your bets being either refused or limited

I strongly doubt  if all winning punters agree but perhaps they're  not flagged as punters  gambling at self harm levels----
Report henryluca February 25, 2017 3:12 AM GMT
Curiously iprefer---you're the one spruiking how smart you are


but where your winning bets land the bookies in question wont be impressed,  hence closed accounts, believe me ive been there!

i was taking them for mugs......bookies dont like being taking for a ride.....they want mugs


and you say Henry is the 'knob'

LaughLaugh

Laughing at you --not with you
---

Now go away---your annoying fluff on my shoulder
Report iprefertolay February 25, 2017 7:21 PM GMT
surprisigly henry i DONT gamble my bets are risk free (no self harm there lol) BUT YOU EITHER CANT OR WONT UNDERSTAND

PS APPROX TWENTY BOOKIES HAVE CLOSED MY ACCOUNTS OVER THE YEARS

AT LEAST YOU APPEAR TO HAVE CONCEDED DEFEAT WITH THAT DUTY OF CARE CRAP WHAT UTTER BULLSHIT!
Report Angela Rebecchi February 26, 2017 1:32 AM GMT
henry is trolling. Anyone who is seen is shrewd is closed as a punter. I've been banned from 20 bookies and I know of people who have had duplicate accounts who have been banned from the same bookie several times over. If you don't play the casino or bet on poor value selections they don't want you, simple as that.
Report henryluca February 26, 2017 2:06 AM GMT
APPROX TWENTY BOOKIES HAVE CLOSED MY ACCOUNTS OVER THE YEARS

Anyone who is seen is shrewd is closed as a punter. I've been banned from 20 bookies and I know of people who have had duplicate accounts who have been banned from the same bookie several times over.


WD to Angela and iprefer----

I cant argue with facts --if you've been banned --then you've been banned ----our point of difference is the reason punters are banned----banned punters say -as you would expect--I win too often ---fair enough--not not for me to burst anyone's bubble----

If you want any early bet on a market a few rolls of the board price above the anticipated --let me know----all in good fun

GL
Report iprefertolay February 26, 2017 2:18 AM GMT
angela i agree totally we have both been there we sing from the same song sheet i dont know why i have to justistify  myself with henry who is clearly is dissalussioned.
get the tablets henry if you dont want to believe  the truth i cant help you ps i wont give you a free lay that wins when u fished knobhead !!
Report iprefertolay February 26, 2017 2:30 AM GMT
henry stick to the facts why do bookies close my an angelas accounts down?    duty of care?? crap, or not profitable account? as previuosly stated " the reason is uneconomical to sustain"   we dont want winners we want effing  mugs    will the penny drop???? they have share holders that want a return on investment they are not in the charity duty care busisness for god sake
Report henryluca February 26, 2017 3:14 AM GMT
why do bookies close my an angelas accounts down?

Perhaps cause Angela joined the forum  on the 15 Sep 02   and  iprefer joined the forum on 16 Sep 02 --the day latter.

You must think we are all stupid---

LaughLaugh

OK --all done with you and the voices in your head
Report iprefertolay February 26, 2017 7:24 PM GMT
what on earth has the date I joined the forum and the date of someone I dont know, when they joined the forum (who shares my view) got to do with anything? Henry why not answe my original question......Why do bookies close our accounts?
Report henryluca February 27, 2017 12:56 AM GMT
Thats a weird request iprefer because my original reply and subsequent replies have informed you of my opinion and then you proceeded to 'name call' me -----

But if you really want bookmaker prices ---just see an on course bookmaker----become an account holder --you may need some funds in credit depending on your A and L's and then you wont get banned...

Just a thought to help you.

Cheers
Report iprefertolay February 27, 2017 5:32 AM GMT
i dont bet with on course bookies i bet on line n win regardless of the outcome when prices r prefferereable. ps i dont need your help. as bookies close my accounts... not through duty of care lol i add  accounts    ... i reinvent my self the wife for  example...... its to complex for a knob
Report Angela Rebecchi February 27, 2017 11:48 AM GMT
http://www.attheraces.com/article/556131
Report iprefertolay February 27, 2017 8:05 PM GMT
angela....thanks....This has been a substantial help to them in identifying the type of customer that they want to do business with, the consistent loser with little discipline or skill, and the type of customer they don’t want to deal with - the skilled, informed and price sensitive punter/trader.    take note henry
Report iprefertolay February 27, 2017 8:08 PM GMT
read henry...Anyone that wins consistently or even just beats the starting price consistently is going to have problems of one extent or another with stake restrictions and account closures. That has just become a reality of betting on horse racing.
Report henryluca February 27, 2017 10:56 PM GMT
i dont know why i have to justistify  myself with henry who is clearly is dissalussioned.

iprefer--you dont have to justify anything to Henry---

.Anyone that wins consistently or even just beats the starting price consistently is going to have problems

Yes that is you iprefer----as you have well and truely documented that you have been banned by --let me see --oh yes twenty - 20- internet bookmakers because you are a successful gambler

This has been a substantial help to them in identifying the type of customer that they want to do business with


yes Angela--you have been once again a help----no no --a substantial help to whatshisname--oh yes --fluff--no no iprefer
Report clacherholiday2 March 3, 2017 3:10 PM GMT
my bwin account was closed after 2 bets, both were for 20 quid and both lost.  2 WTA matches were they held the prices of 7/2 and 2/1 too long when the rest were 6/4 and 4/5.

they dont give a sh1t if you win, they care if you beat their prices.

theres enough opportunities on here and with the in-shop books to compensate, i dont begrudge the bookies closing an account even if its not in profit, i'd do the same if i were them.
Report iprefertolay March 3, 2017 8:12 PM GMT
clatcher it is true bookies will close your account even if its losing if they identify you as an arber or someone who always gets best price in the market
Report MOGAMBO March 4, 2017 12:17 AM GMT
...so  what  about  an  account  with  the  tote...
Report mr singh March 18, 2017 9:12 PM GMT
I tried to back charli parcs at 4-1 thursday evening with pp online. i have had my stakes restricted for a long time with them but i thought as it was  cheltenham it would be accepted, but they would only offer me about 25% of the stake i wanted. I declined and went to one of their shops and the bet was accepted without any problems, they didn't even phone up. Online is a waste of time use their shops. They can't tell winning punters from losing punters if you bet in the shops.
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