After almost forty years, I can confirm that the methods put forward by VDW do work.It took me a long long time of painstaking research, but last year I finally solved ALL the puzzle,and the benefits accrued since have made the needless frustration worthwhile.
I looked at the Van der Wheil stuff for a long, long time and liked a lot of it. Might take another look - was a bit different back then.
So, as I say, good luck, and don't forget to pm me to pass it on after you've made a mint and retired!
I looked at the Van der Wheilstuff for a long, long time and liked a lot of it.Might take another look - was a bit different back then.So, as I say, good luck, and don't forget to pm me to pass it on after you'vemade a mint and retired!
the last time i looked into the VDW method some years ago,myself and some others on Gummy racing debated about the VDW method for months. what was discussed then was that one of the persons on the group had been able to locate the individual who had wrote the letters about the VDW method all those years ago and that is was a fraud. not that i'm saying it was or not. perhaps if you have cracked the method GF you could post some selections up in advance and settles this debate once and for all?
the last time i looked into the VDW method some years ago,myself and some others on Gummy racing debated about the VDW method for months. what was discussed then was that one of the persons on the group had been able to locate the individual who had
Good luck to the OP if he can make it pay, but I remember what Sunset Cristo said.
It didn't seem that good in those days ( gummy) and, certainly, I, for one, had no luck with it.
Those who could get it to work, just said that I didn't do it right, and that I didn't identify the "winner in the race" etc. At one stage, somebody suggested that Hall or vdw must have been suggesting some sort of grand dutching system. This didn't seem right to me, as we were supposed to eliminate "conflict" or "confusion" in the race, if I remember correctly.
At present, I have stumbled on a fluky ridiculous selection method that consistently throws up four winners a meeting ( AW only). Sometimes the prices are good which is very important as I back two runners in each race. In fact, I badly need a sensible staking plan to eliminate waste, and so I'm opening a new thread on here, hoping to get a few sensible ideas and pointers. Btw, it's nothing to do with vdw; it's a thousand times easier.
Good luck to the OP if he can make it pay, butI remember what Sunset Cristo said.It didn't seem that good in those days ( gummy) and, certainly, I, for one, had no luck with it.Those who could get it to work, just said that I didn't do it right, and
55 bets, 19 winners - so strike rate is pretty good!
Worst priced winner 4/7 Best priced winner 9/1 Various prices in between.
Just over 30 points up to level stakes. So, have I cracked it?
Nope. This sort of thing happens quite often I find. But then it does peter out.
Still, I've made a few quid!
Trialled something for the last few weeks55 bets, 19 winners - so strike rate is pretty good!Worst priced winner 4/7Best priced winner 9/1Various prices in between.Just over 30 points up to level stakes. So, have I cracked it?Nope. This sort of thing
The thing is (imo), if you find something that you think "works", then get some money down asap!
Things tend to even out (or the edge you've found dissolves) and it's over - leading to more "tweaking", etc. So make a few bob while you can!
No. Not VDW-related, Sean.The thing is (imo), if you find something that you think "works", then get some money down asap!Things tend to even out (or the edge you've found dissolves) and it's over - leading to more "tweaking", etc. So make a few bob
'Tis a "get it while ye can" world for people like me.
Years ago, when I dabbled with the vdw stuff ( inexpertly), I think it would have been too long-term for me, even if I had understood it. I have more of a "smash and grab and run" mentality!
The "daft method" hit the buffers at Kempton yesterday , yielding only two winners. It just about scraped a profit on a "stop at a winner" basis ( much frowned upon by most "experts").
A bit like catching rabbits; I'd need to decide whether I want to set a lot of traps and then forget about them till later, or, whether I'm going to have to commit to being actually dealing with the situation race by race.
Totally agree, raspberry!'Tis a "get it while ye can" world for people like me.Years ago, when I dabbled with the vdw stuff ( inexpertly), I think it would have been too long-term for me, even if I had understood it.I have more of a "smash and grab a
It has been suggested that the guy who edited the forum in the handicap book at that time, and who sold a number of books on the subject, was the only one to make money on the VDW system.
It has been suggested that the guy who edited the forum in the handicap book at that time, and who sold a number of books on the subject, was the only one to make money on the VDW system.
Yes, I've heard that, Arklearkle. 'Tis ages since I was interested in the method, but I recall some guy called Hall seemed to feature.
What really put me off was when , though some pretended to have met a man "with a German (sic) accent" there was never any grave and, to top it all, somebody well up in it, stated that there actually never was a vdw.
No doubt, this will be refuted by somebody before long.
The thing seems to arouse great passion. All I can say is that my attempts to make my understanding of the method failed badly. Good luck to any who can make it pay!
Yes, I've heard that, Arklearkle.'Tis ages since I was interested in the method, but I recall some guy called Hall seemed to feature.What really put me off was when , though some pretended to have met a man "with a German (sic) accent" there was neve