The Holy Grail - 10% edge on English and European football matches

Oh dear, too much time Dave... thanks for the advice though

errr just clicking on your profile doesn't take much time and neither does a whois, Brian

As I said, no one would bother if you were honest about it.

I am honest, "I created a thread ages ago so I could post a link to a useful resource on my site." Big deal.

So, back under your bridge troll and only come out when you have some input on the actual topic please.

Sigh. Here we go again...

Nov 10, 2015 -- 4:54PM, scrooge_mcduck wrote:

Sigh. Here we go again...

Can I paraphrase? "F*cks sakes I've been rumbled*

Nov 10, 2015 -- 4:34PM, scrooge_mcduck wrote:

I am honest, "I created a thread ages ago so I could post a link to a useful resource on my site." Big deal.So, back under your bridge troll and only come out when you have some input on the actual topic please.

BIG DEAL ?  How can you say "I am honest" after getting caught being a BS'er ?

Way to go dave1357 and CJ70.  Keep holding the feet of guys like scrooge to the fire. The plot is always the same. They think they're so clever, then they get caught and go on the attack, trying to make their exposers go away.  Seems to me dave and CJ are saying 'not this time'.  Add me to the list.

"Damn, I can't pick holes in this system or the results posted online for all to see... I know I'll find a post from ages ago to show my cynicism instead."

It's tough for people who lose to believe that it's possible to win, I appreciate that.

Nov 10, 2015 -- 10:10PM, scrooge_mcduck wrote:

"Damn, I can't pick holes in this system or the results posted online for all to see... I know I'll find a post from ages ago to show my cynicism instead." It's tough for people who lose to believe that it's possible to win, I appreciate that.

Most people who lose tend to try scamming people by selling tips.

Sound familiar?

Nov 10, 2015 -- 10:10PM, scrooge_mcduck wrote:

"Damn, I can't pick holes in this system or the results posted online for all to see... I know I'll find a post from ages ago to show my cynicism instead." It's tough for people who lose to believe that it's possible to win, I appreciate that.

You're assuming a lot there scrooge.  Personally, I've been here almost since day one.  I spend about an hour and a half a day or less on here to make my very nice living.  As for picking holes in your statement, your attempted BS was only 2 years ago.  ages ago NOT.
I went to your site and looked for about 10 seconds.  It works or not, I really don't know or care.
Really, it's not your trying to sell your system that I take exception too, it's the way you did it.  You came here like many before posing as an innocent poster.  F. O.  You held everybody here in contempt because you are obviously so brilliant and everyone here is so daft.
Just some advice, don't try that trick on seasoned gamblers.  We aren't to be taken smugly by you as little mugs.  It's offensive and you deserve all the abuse you are getting and will continue to get.  I'm not going away.

I appreciate your comment SS and congratulations on your success too. However, the posting from 2 years ago where I cheekily attempted to link to my calculator has very little to do with this post about my system. Thanks to Dave for posting the url for that post again though and cheers for the brief visit too. Traffic is soaring!

Wow, a great and wonderful winning system and you're desperate for people to visit your site.  You cover up your failed attempt at lying to everyone who read your post as a cheeky attempt to link your kelly calculator.  More lies. You meant to go undetected until you were called out.  Another guy with a great system who has to depend on suckers buying said great system. Never ends.Keep posting Ducky.  I've got all day.  I just greened out on England/Pakistan. Nice little wage earner that was.  And you ?  How did your system do today , and more telling, how many suckers did you fleece today ?

Some people on here are so highly strung. Get.Over.It.
Nice trade by the way. You can make more money trading tbh so stick with that. There's the time cost to factor in though of course.

How did you go from  wondering if you should borrow on credit cards to support your gambling  to becoming a trading / betting expert ?  Teach us Obi-wan KenoBrian.  Teach us.

10% on EVERY match is impossible but by selecting those with the highest value, 10% is achievable. Using betfair, we sometimes have to settle for poorer prices than the best available odds and this along with commission brings the % down a bit too. 10% is achievable using other bookies but then there's a risk of being limited too.

Less the 10% on some means more then 10% on others to bring the average up.  PLEASE. Using other bookies to do it too ?  So, your sucker account holder must have multiple bookie accounts and move lightning quick to catch the price imperfections ?  PLEASE.  Go ahead, tell me there are multiple bookies that aren't in complete lockstep with each other.  SUCKers wanted !  SUCKERS over here and sign up please.  Good God man how do you sleep at night.

Ok you win, it's not possible. Believe what you want. My advice to you is to take a closer look at the facts before jumping to conclusions, you might actually learn something. All current subscribers have made a very nice profit so far and even if the system didn't end up in profit overall this season, I have ensured them their money back. They all received the tips for free for 2 years too so they know that it works. THAT sir, is how I sleep at night.

Nah, it's quite clear that this sort of thing is a little too high brow for most of the people on here these days (sad times), so it's not worth me trying to explain further. Some gamblers are told things or hold certain beliefs that they will attempt to reaffirm to themselves no matter what is presented in front of them. Face it, this has blown your mind. Good luck lads

Bless. See you in six months.

I'm too stupid to even know what your claim is.  10 % edge.  What exactly is that.  You must be getting 10% better on something.  What is that something.  Let us know what your benchmark is.  I just don't know Ducky.  Give me a constant 2% edge, I'd be a millionaire in a year.  Give me 10% and I'd bet my arrrse off for 6 months and you'd never hear from me again.  And you ?

Ah, finally something worth discussing, thanks SS. At present we have a bank of £30,000 (£15,000 profit approx). To make a million in 6 months we'd need to turn over £10,000,000 which over an estimated 1000 qualifying markets would be around £10,000 per match. I am interested to know how you go about getting the funds to do this?

You my man are describing R.O.I.  Oh boy.  I'm up late watching and betting on the NFL.  Using my edge to make some money.  My ROI will be about 15 % on the game.  Waiting for another opportunity in the game to jump in and use my edge again.  BTW, I said I'd be a millionaire in a year with a constant 2 % edge, not 6 months like you referenced.  Doesn't matter really though because your betting knowledge, like your comprehensive skills, are suspect.

Not another 'tipster' website riddled with affiliate marketing.

If what you were selling was any good there would be no need for the marketing  rubbish. Take a look at Betangel website to see how proper betting tool website should be run. No affiliate marketing just selling a useful product.

Btw alot of the links are dead. Also you might want to take down your 'latest interview' with BetButler given this on the GC website:

BetButler update: liquidator appointed

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Posted on 26 June 2015
Bet Butler Limited has now been placed into liquidation following a winding-up order.
The Order was made in the High Court of Justice (case number: No 00807 of 2015) on a creditor’s petition and Karen Jackson is the Official Receiver and Liquidator.

2% or 10%, 6 months or a year, the same problem applies.
Hope the 3am trading went well. I guess there's always South American Football to lump on if that goes pear shaped.

@frog

The site came before the system. We could create a new site focused on the product itself but thought it made sense to promote somewhere that already gets decent traffic and where there is already plenty of trust for our services. Perhaps a new website would be worth looking at in the long term though.

Not had time to do any interviews for a while and whilst out of date, that Bet Butler page still sees plenty of traffic strangely enough.

@scrooge_mcduck why all the affiliate stuff that is tracked and thus makes any tipster service worthless as the bookies know which devices are using the tips?

Good question. I don't know if the affiliate stuff is worth continuing to be honest with the services that we do charge for (only 2 so far) doing very well. There are plenty of tipsters who are 'having a go' of course and aren't any good but these are all free. We attract a lot of knowledgeable bettors and might be better off attempting to build on that instead of affiliation.