Undern's rocky road to Â£100K > Betfair Community

Report freddiewilliams • February 26, 2014 12:23 PM GMT

im so excited

Report no moves • February 26, 2014 5:08 PM GMT

I personally think I might have wet myself.

Report casemoney • February 26, 2014 6:14 PM GMT

I have wet myself ..

Report undern • February 27, 2014 8:53 AM GMT

In all seriousness .... I have had some bad news involving a family member. Will start this challenge some other time.

Report undern • March 1, 2014 3:59 PM GMT

Back today after some family issues to deal with .... sadly relatives seem to be dropping like flies.

Still have a few things to attend to and need to spend time with my wife so will look to start this challenge once I am settled and ready to get back into it .... hope everyones betting is going well.

Report undern • March 26, 2014 11:43 AM GMT

After a difficult few weeks finally back .... ready to get this challenge going. Will start from scratch so the challenge outline is as follows:

Starting Bank: £1K
Target: £100K
Markets: Mainly horses and greyhounds
Withdrawals: Will withdraw £100 each day (will reflect this in the daily update).

Will try and be sensible and not bet on anything and everything but naturally I can't promise this

. I will be looking to spend less time on here though.

Official starting time: 11.15am 26th March 2014

Report undern • March 26, 2014 10:19 PM GMT

Tired and busy most of the day tomorrow .... will update fully sometime tomorrow. Wasted money on the tennis ... and could of had a nice win in the Liverpool match but not to be. At least it was a profitable day ...

Cricket: £19.38 | Greyhound Racing: £202.32 | Horse Racing: £10.51 | Soccer: £33.98 | Tennis: -£156.47 Total P&L: £109.72

Report SHAPESHIFTER • March 27, 2014 10:26 AM GMT

GL. rely on yourself and not your bot.

Do not contribute to the Australian economy and you should do fine.

Walk away on a good note even if you see an opportunity coming up.

Report SIR_Bond • March 27, 2014 11:27 AM GMT

Oh look guys another 1000 challenge that has never worked at the 1000th attempt

Report SabineIsGOAT • March 27, 2014 11:30 AM GMT

More like the 100k to 1k challenge.

Report undern • March 27, 2014 7:26 PM GMT

Challenge Update:
Well like I said last night .... a profitable day but again (like always) getting caught betting on certain markets I shouldn't be ... tennis in this case. Side note: Today's betting (27th March) ... also involved betting on things I shouldn't only to be kept alive by a big low odds lay in a US horse race ... someone loves me up there

Starting Bank: £1000
26/03/2014: £1110

Cricket: £19.38 | Greyhound Racing: £202.32 | Horse Racing: £10.51 | Soccer: £33.98 | Tennis: -£156.47 Total P&L: £109.72

Cricket Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Cricket / England (W) v India (W) : Match Odds
26-Mar-14 13:30 26-Mar-14 16:31 19.38

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 16 of 16 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Romfd 26th Mar : A1 400m
26-Mar-14 22:11 26-Mar-14 22:16 15.25
Greyhound Racing / PBoro 26th Mar : A1 420m
26-Mar-14 22:03 26-Mar-14 22:09 21.80
Greyhound Racing / PBoro 26th Mar : B5 435m
26-Mar-14 21:48 26-Mar-14 21:53 60.56
Greyhound Racing / PBoro 26th Mar : B6 435m
26-Mar-14 21:15 26-Mar-14 21:20 15.75
Greyhound Racing / PBoro 26th Mar : A8 420m
26-Mar-14 19:54 26-Mar-14 19:59 -152.00
Greyhound Racing / Romfd 26th Mar : A6 400m
26-Mar-14 19:46 26-Mar-14 19:52 28.10
Greyhound Racing / PBoro 26th Mar : A9 420m
26-Mar-14 19:39 26-Mar-14 19:44 29.99
Greyhound Racing / Hove 26th Mar : A3 515m
26-Mar-14 18:11 26-Mar-14 18:14 11.30
Greyhound Racing / Hove 26th Mar : A5 515m
26-Mar-14 17:07 26-Mar-14 17:11 20.62
Greyhound Racing / BVue 26th Mar : A4 470m
26-Mar-14 16:37 26-Mar-14 16:39 44.82
Greyhound Racing / BVue 26th Mar : A3 470m
26-Mar-14 15:17 26-Mar-14 15:19 67.09
Greyhound Racing / HGrn 26th Mar : A2 480m
26-Mar-14 13:04 26-Mar-14 13:06 -98.45
Greyhound Racing / Newc 26th Mar : HC 640m
26-Mar-14 12:58 26-Mar-14 13:00 12.11
Greyhound Racing / Newc 26th Mar : A5 480m
26-Mar-14 11:42 26-Mar-14 11:46 49.13
Greyhound Racing / HGrn 26th Mar : A6 480m
26-Mar-14 11:34 26-Mar-14 11:37 9.44
Greyhound Racing / HGrn 26th Mar : A8 480m
26-Mar-14 11:19 26-Mar-14 11:21 66.81

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 15 of 15 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Hawth (US) 26th Mar : R7 1m Allw
26-Mar-14 21:48 26-Mar-14 21:59 12.11
Horse Racing / Kemp 26th Mar : 1m2f Hcap
26-Mar-14 18:00 26-Mar-14 18:07 67.83
Horse Racing / Kemp 26th Mar : 1m2f Hcap
26-Mar-14 17:30 26-Mar-14 17:34 12.11
Horse Racing / Sthl 26th Mar : 1m6f Hcap
26-Mar-14 17:20 26-Mar-14 17:24 21.32
Horse Racing / Extr 26th Mar : 2m3f Hunt Chs
26-Mar-14 17:10 26-Mar-14 17:15 12.11
Horse Racing / Ling 26th Mar : 7f Hcap
26-Mar-14 17:00 26-Mar-14 17:04 133.23
Horse Racing / Ling 26th Mar : 5f Hcap
26-Mar-14 16:30 26-Mar-14 16:33 -105.99
Horse Racing / Sthl 26th Mar : 6f Hcap
26-Mar-14 16:20 26-Mar-14 16:22 -130.00
Horse Racing / Extr 26th Mar : 2m7f Hcap Hrd
26-Mar-14 16:10 26-Mar-14 16:17 -82.45
Horse Racing / Extr 26th Mar : 3m Hcap Chs
26-Mar-14 15:40 26-Mar-14 15:54 9.69
Horse Racing / Extr 26th Mar : 2m3f Hcap Hrd
26-Mar-14 14:40 26-Mar-14 14:50 12.11
Horse Racing / Ling 26th Mar : 1m Hcap
26-Mar-14 14:30 26-Mar-14 14:39 12.11
Horse Racing / Extr 26th Mar : 2m3f Nov Hrd
26-Mar-14 14:10 26-Mar-14 14:15 12.11
Horse Racing / Ling 26th Mar : 6f Sell Stks
26-Mar-14 14:00 26-Mar-14 14:05 12.11
Horse Racing / Kenil (RSA) 26th Mar : R6 1400m Plt
26-Mar-14 13:25 26-Mar-14 13:47 12.11

Soccer Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Soccer / Liverpool v Sunderland : Over/Under 3.5 Goals
26-Mar-14 20:00 26-Mar-14 21:50 -39.20
Soccer / Liverpool v Sunderland : Over/Under 2.5 Goals
26-Mar-14 20:00 26-Mar-14 21:33 73.18

Tennis Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Tennis / Cibulkova v A Radwanska : Match Odds
26-Mar-14 17:08 26-Mar-14 19:52 -156.47

Report undern • March 27, 2014 7:48 PM GMT

Challenge Update:
Played a bit this morning but on the whole was gone for most of the morning ... got back and played and played some more ... all going quite well until I got caught thinking Ned was going beat SA in the T20 inrunning (I did have green up bets set but not triggered)not to mention my lay of England

and then had this notion that Sharapova was going to run away with the match in the tennis .... yep lost again. Played some more and all hope was lost until I layed heavily a low odds fav in the USA horses (if it had lost I would the bank would have been £700) ... but thankfully it lost and hence I am back to a profitable day. Time for Arrow and recorded Revolution me thinks

.... anything to keep me away from the greyhound TV racing which I love ...

The bots still exist ... if I had left them alone I would be around £87 in profit today.

Starting Bank: £1000
26/03/2014: £1110
27/03/2014: £1329

Aussie: Greyhound Racing: £45.17 | Horse Racing: £12.00 Total P&L: £57.17

UK: Cricket: -£316.00 | Greyhound Racing: -£39.25 | Horse Racing: £586.47 | Tennis: -£68.97 Total P&L: £162.25

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / APrk (AUS) 27th Mar : R1 520m Nvce
27-Mar-14 08:43 27-Mar-14 08:45 23.99
Greyhound Racing / Wgul (AUS) 27th Mar : R11 400m Gr5
27-Mar-14 08:04 27-Mar-14 08:05 21.18

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Alba (AUS) 27th Mar : R5 1100m Hcap
27-Mar-14 08:00 27-Mar-14 08:02 12.00

Cricket Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Cricket / England v Sri Lanka : Match Odds
27-Mar-14 13:30 27-Mar-14 17:18 -150.00
Cricket / Netherlands v South Africa : Match Odds
27-Mar-14 09:30 27-Mar-14 12:44 -166.00

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 6 of 6 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Hove 27th Mar : OR 285m
27-Mar-14 19:31 27-Mar-14 19:36 37.70
Greyhound Racing / Sittb 27th Mar : A8 480m
27-Mar-14 18:44 27-Mar-14 18:46 -182.00
Greyhound Racing / Monm 27th Mar : A4 480m
27-Mar-14 18:33 27-Mar-14 18:37 14.34
Greyhound Racing / Romfd 27th Mar : A8 400m
27-Mar-14 16:27 27-Mar-14 16:29 35.23
Greyhound Racing / Romfd 27th Mar : A5 400m
27-Mar-14 15:48 27-Mar-14 15:50 31.26
Greyhound Racing / Sheff 27th Mar : A2 500m
27-Mar-14 13:27 27-Mar-14 13:30 24.22

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 11 of 11 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Aque (US) 27th Mar : R5 1m Allw
27-Mar-14 19:16 27-Mar-14 19:22 409.19
Horse Racing / Kemp 27th Mar : 1m Hcap
27-Mar-14 19:05 27-Mar-14 19:07 16.47
Horse Racing / Aque (US) 27th Mar : R4 7f Mdn Claim
27-Mar-14 18:47 27-Mar-14 18:55 15.58
Horse Racing / Kemp 27th Mar : 1m3f Hcap
27-Mar-14 18:35 27-Mar-14 18:42 -84.79
Horse Racing / Kemp 27th Mar : 1m3f Mdn Stks
27-Mar-14 17:35 27-Mar-14 17:51 43.60
Horse Racing / Wolv 27th Mar : 1m Hcap
27-Mar-14 17:25 27-Mar-14 17:33 67.83
Horse Racing / Sthl 27th Mar : 1m3f Hcap
27-Mar-14 16:10 27-Mar-14 16:13 16.85
Horse Racing / Wolv 27th Mar : 1m1f Hcap
27-Mar-14 15:50 27-Mar-14 15:53 12.11
Horse Racing / Sthl 27th Mar : 1m3f Hcap
27-Mar-14 15:40 27-Mar-14 15:43 48.45
Horse Racing / FfosL 27th Mar : 3m Hcap Hrd
27-Mar-14 14:20 27-Mar-14 14:28 16.96
Horse Racing / FfosL 27th Mar : 2m4f Mdn Hrd
27-Mar-14 13:50 27-Mar-14 13:57 24.22

Tennis Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Tennis / Ser Williams v Sharapova : Match Odds
27-Mar-14 17:00 27-Mar-14 18:53 -68.97

Report undern • March 27, 2014 7:51 PM GMT

Here is that nice (chasing) lay bet I had .....

USA / Aque (US) 27th Mar / 19:16 R5 1m Allw 2. U. S. S. Obrien Lay 35670659504 27-Mar-14
19:16 SP C 422.28 422.28 1.43 422.28

Report DFCIRONMAN • March 27, 2014 10:37 PM GMT

Allowance Optional Claiming .......A race type with same age horses on DIRT in USA .....and you risk major chunk of bank on it......Does not auger well UD.

Report undern • March 27, 2014 11:02 PM GMT

Played a bit more tonight .... one darts and three greyhound lays (one done via the bot) ... good start to 28th March ..... hopefully I will take it easy tomorrow and not be in a position to have to take on a low odds fav in the USA racing

Darts: £33.91 | Greyhound Racing: £154.46 Total P&L: £188.37

Report SIR_Bond • March 28, 2014 10:48 AM GMT

walofs

Report undern • March 28, 2014 9:08 PM GMT

Challenge Update:
To say it was a tough day ... would be spot on. Keep betting on markets I shouldn't be like the cricket (and not greening up quickly enough). Simply have to keep pushing when I know I shouldn't ... thank god for some greyhound TV racing and a low odds ir lay tonight to get me in profit .... NCIS I think would be the best option .... Busy tomorrow so going to try and not get involved in much at all.

Starting Bank: £1000
26/03/2014: £1110
27/03/2014: £1329
28/03/2014: £1477

Aussie: Greyhound Racing: -£303.59 | Horse Racing: £71.52 Total P&L: -£232.07

UK: Cricket: -£218.80 | Darts: £33.91 | Greyhound Racing: £579.12 | Horse Racing: -£14.57 Total P&L: £379.66

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 4 of 4 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / WPrk (AUS) 28th Mar : R4 520m Gr4/5
28-Mar-14 09:19 28-Mar-14 09:20 8.72
Greyhound Racing / Geel (AUS) 28th Mar : R3 400m Gr5
28-Mar-14 08:49 28-Mar-14 08:50 16.69
Greyhound Racing / Geel (AUS) 28th Mar : R2 460m Gr5
28-Mar-14 08:27 28-Mar-14 08:29 -200.00
Greyhound Racing / WPrk (AUS) 28th Mar : R1 520m Gr5
28-Mar-14 08:19 28-Mar-14 08:20 -129.00

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 6 of 6 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Cran (AUS) 28th Mar : R5 1000m Hcap
28-Mar-14 09:45 28-Mar-14 09:48 11.52
Horse Racing / Ngin (AUS) 28th Mar : R8 1700m Hcap
28-Mar-14 09:30 28-Mar-14 09:35 12.00
Horse Racing / APrk (AUS) 28th Mar : R4 2138m Pace M
28-Mar-14 09:22 28-Mar-14 09:28 12.00
Horse Racing / Bank (AUS) 28th Mar : R4 1740m Pace M
28-Mar-14 09:00 28-Mar-14 09:10 12.00
Horse Racing / Ngin (AUS) 28th Mar : R6 1100m CL1
28-Mar-14 08:30 28-Mar-14 08:33 12.00
Horse Racing / Ngin (AUS) 28th Mar : R4 1700m Mdn
28-Mar-14 07:30 28-Mar-14 07:34 12.00

Cricket Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Cricket / Australia v West Indies : Match Odds
28-Mar-14 09:30 28-Mar-14 12:56 -218.80

Darts Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Darts / Lewis v Chisnall : Match Odds
27-Mar-14 20:00 27-Mar-14 20:15 33.91

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 16 of 16 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Romfd 28th Mar : OR 400M
28-Mar-14 20:50 28-Mar-14 20:54 116.08
Greyhound Racing / Romfd 28th Mar : OR 575m
28-Mar-14 20:18 28-Mar-14 20:21 72.67
Greyhound Racing / Romfd 28th Mar : OR 225M
28-Mar-14 19:31 28-Mar-14 19:40 48.45
Greyhound Racing / Sheff 28th Mar : HC 280m
28-Mar-14 19:11 28-Mar-14 19:15 14.48
Greyhound Racing / Sheff 28th Mar : HC 500m
28-Mar-14 18:38 28-Mar-14 18:43 81.49
Greyhound Racing / Monm 28th Mar : A8 480m
28-Mar-14 18:18 28-Mar-14 18:30 20.48
Greyhound Racing / Monm 28th Mar : A6 480m
28-Mar-14 18:04 28-Mar-14 18:09 102.96
Greyhound Racing / Swin 28th Mar : A8 480m
28-Mar-14 17:22 28-Mar-14 17:26 47.12
Greyhound Racing / Swin 28th Mar : A2 480m
28-Mar-14 16:47 28-Mar-14 16:50 34.00
Greyhound Racing / Monm 28th Mar : A5 480m
28-Mar-14 15:17 28-Mar-14 15:20 25.50
Greyhound Racing / Hove 28th Mar : A9 515m
28-Mar-14 13:12 28-Mar-14 13:17 -180.00
Greyhound Racing / Hove 28th Mar : A7 515m
28-Mar-14 12:58 28-Mar-14 13:02 18.89
Greyhound Racing / Kinsl 28th Mar : A5 462m
28-Mar-14 12:47 28-Mar-14 12:50 22.54
Greyhound Racing / Hove 27th Mar : A4 515m
27-Mar-14 22:26 27-Mar-14 22:32 48.45
Greyhound Racing / Henl 27th Mar : A6 460M
27-Mar-14 21:32 27-Mar-14 21:37 90.97
Greyhound Racing / Hove 27th Mar : OR 515m
27-Mar-14 21:06 27-Mar-14 21:11 15.04

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 17 of 17 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Wolv 28th Mar : 1m1f Mdn Stks
28-Mar-14 21:00 28-Mar-14 21:03 12.11
Horse Racing / Wolv 28th Mar : 7f Hcap
28-Mar-14 20:30 28-Mar-14 20:32 133.72
Horse Racing / Dund 28th Mar : 7f Hcap
28-Mar-14 19:45 28-Mar-14 19:48 69.77
Horse Racing / Dund 28th Mar : 7f Mdn
28-Mar-14 19:15 28-Mar-14 19:25 17.33
Horse Racing / Dund 28th Mar : 2m Hcap
28-Mar-14 18:45 28-Mar-14 18:52 12.11
Horse Racing / Tampa (US) 28th Mar : R5 7f Mdn Claim
28-Mar-14 18:25 28-Mar-14 18:32 12.11
Horse Racing / Newc 28th Mar : 3m Nov Hcap Hrd
28-Mar-14 17:25 28-Mar-14 17:31 14.53
Horse Racing / Ling 28th Mar : 6f Hcap
28-Mar-14 17:15 28-Mar-14 17:18 -157.06
Horse Racing / Tampa (US) 28th Mar : R1 7f Claim
28-Mar-14 16:25 28-Mar-14 16:33 12.11
Horse Racing / Newc 28th Mar : 2m Hcap Hrd
28-Mar-14 16:15 28-Mar-14 16:20 12.11
Horse Racing / Ling 28th Mar : 6f Hcap
28-Mar-14 16:05 28-Mar-14 16:06 -217.00
Horse Racing / Weth 28th Mar : 2m6f Hcap Chs
28-Mar-14 15:55 28-Mar-14 16:01 -122.50
Horse Racing / Newc 28th Mar : 2m4f Hcap Chs
28-Mar-14 15:40 28-Mar-14 15:46 -75.01
Horse Racing / Ling 28th Mar : 1m Hcap
28-Mar-14 15:00 28-Mar-14 15:02 172.92
Horse Racing / Newc 28th Mar : 2m Hcap Chs
28-Mar-14 14:40 28-Mar-14 14:45 22.29
Horse Racing / Ling 28th Mar : 1m Hcap
28-Mar-14 14:30 28-Mar-14 14:35 9.69
Horse Racing / Ling 28th Mar : 1m5f Claim Stks
28-Mar-14 14:00 28-Mar-14 14:03 56.20

Report undern • March 29, 2014 7:03 AM GMT

Well woke up ... grabbed a coffee, checked my emails and then (as I should have learnt by now) .... come Saturday's lots more favs lose in the horse racing. Layed (ir I did dare) a fav ir (2yrs old won LTO) to win £100 (layed around 1.72) .... now I could keep playing or spend time setting up some bots for later. Come on Undern do the right thing ...

Report undern • March 29, 2014 2:14 PM GMT

So far been a good day ... haven't played (too) much and TBH haven't felt like it either ... either tiredness or me being sensible. Who knows

... got a bet on the England T20 match ... won a bit of a couple of horse races with one being a very nice low odds ip win. Got a couple more horse race bot bets to go ... winning a small amount in the MU football game while still weighing up whether to get involved in the Cardiff City game ....

Report undern • March 29, 2014 6:42 PM GMT

Challenge Update:
Been a good solid day .... nearly got everything right ... and a good increase to the challenge bank. One important thing is that I didn't feel the need to play anything and everything. Busy again tomorrow so will set up the bots (had 3 of them running today although most greyhound selections were filtered out) and see how it plays out.

Starting Bank: £1000
26/03/2014: £1110
27/03/2014: £1329
28/03/2014: £1477
29/03/2014: £2402

Aussie: Horse Racing: £70.97 | Soccer: £180.50 Total P&L: £251.47

UK: Cricket: -£165.19 | Greyhound Racing: £85.69 | Horse Racing: £540.95 | Soccer: £212.05 Total P&L: £673.50

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Asct (AUS) 29th Mar : R5 2400m Grp3
29-Mar-14 07:05 29-Mar-14 07:08 -25.00
Horse Racing / Toow (AUS) 29th Mar : R1 1000m 2yo
29-Mar-14 06:55 29-Mar-14 06:59 95.97

Soccer Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Soccer / Central Coast v Western Sydney : Over/Under 2.5 Goals
29-Mar-14 06:30 29-Mar-14 08:25 180.50

Cricket Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Cricket / England v South Africa : Match Odds
29-Mar-14 13:30 29-Mar-14 17:33 -165.19

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Crayfd 29th Mar : S7 540m
29-Mar-14 13:11 29-Mar-14 13:18 57.52
Greyhound Racing / Crayfd 29th Mar : S4 540m
29-Mar-14 11:07 29-Mar-14 11:12 28.17

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 10 of 10 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Kemp 29th Mar : 1m3f Hcap
29-Mar-14 17:15 29-Mar-14 17:25 22.03
Horse Racing / Uttox 29th Mar : 2m NHF
29-Mar-14 17:05 29-Mar-14 17:09 24.23
Horse Racing / Donc 29th Mar : 1m2f Hcap
29-Mar-14 17:00 29-Mar-14 17:03 8.78
Horse Racing / Strat 29th Mar : 2m7f Hcap Chs
29-Mar-14 16:15 29-Mar-14 16:45 124.49
Horse Racing / Kemp 29th Mar : 6f Hcap
29-Mar-14 15:30 29-Mar-14 15:33 24.22
Horse Racing / Meydan (UAE) 29th Mar : 5f Grp 1
29-Mar-14 15:03 29-Mar-14 15:09 96.90
Horse Racing / Uttox 29th Mar : 2m Nov Chs
29-Mar-14 14:45 29-Mar-14 14:50 24.22
Horse Racing / Strat 29th Mar : 2m Nov Hrd
29-Mar-14 13:55 29-Mar-14 14:00 143.41
Horse Racing / Uttox 29th Mar : 2m4f Mdn Hrd
29-Mar-14 13:40 29-Mar-14 13:49 48.45
Horse Racing / Dund 28th Mar : 1m2f Mdn
28-Mar-14 21:15 28-Mar-14 21:20 24.22

Soccer Showing 1 - 3 of 3 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Soccer / West Brom v Cardiff : Match Odds
29-Mar-14 15:00 29-Mar-14 16:56 155.09
Soccer / West Brom v Cardiff : Over/Under 2.5 Goals
29-Mar-14 15:00 29-Mar-14 15:32 38.03
Soccer / Man Utd v Aston Villa : Match Odds
29-Mar-14 12:45 29-Mar-14 14:37 18.93

Report gleeman • March 29, 2014 7:21 PM GMT

The place just isn't the same without an Undern challenge.

Good luck -how long will this one last?

Report undern • March 30, 2014 3:22 AM BST

Nothing like coming home having drunk too much ... and wreck yesterday's profits in fell swoop .... ****.

Report SHAPESHIFTER • March 30, 2014 11:54 AM BST

Sober or not, why play every day?

If I knew I had a 100K pay packet coming, would I rush?

Infact, do you realize with a starting bank of £1,000 and increase 6% a day, you'll be done in 80 days? So what is the rush?

When you hit 2,400, you were way ahead of schedule and can slow down.

So why not stay sane? Set the gain and stop losses.

If you hit 8% gains, you are done.

If at any time the bank rolls back 5%, you stop.

For Stop Loss, it is in 'real time'. Thus, if you have 2,000 at the start of your day and gain 7% to 2,140, if you go back to 2040, you LOST 5% and it is time to walk away. It does not mean if you go to 1,900 at that point.

Translated, it means you will never loose more than 5% and all that does is add an additional day to your target.

It means you have to tinker with your exposure on your betting and bots rather than betting more events.

But ask yourself, what is the rush?

Roll on the marathon versus a sprint analogy.....

Report gawdalmighty • March 30, 2014 6:34 PM BST

Good solid advice there SHAPESHIFTER....are you listening undern?

Report Schalke 04 • March 30, 2014 10:48 PM BST

No rush in betting, my plan is to get to £100k as well, 5 years time will do me ...

Report Northbouy • March 31, 2014 4:01 AM BST

Report undern • April 1, 2014 1:54 PM BST

Challenge Update:
About time I updated the challenge .... not pleasant reading at all. Everytime I do something stupid I decide the quickest way to get back quickly is to take on any short priced runner/team I can ... which made it even worse. What a terrible mess .... the only saving grace is that I did very well yesterday (will update next) .... if only I could get it into my head slow and steady rather than up and down like a sine wave is the better option ....

Starting Bank: £1000
26/03/2014: £1110
27/03/2014: £1329
28/03/2014: £1477
29/03/2014: £2402
30/03/2014: £ 331

Aussie: Greyhound Racing: -£163.00 | Horse Racing: -£563.03 Total P&L: -£726.03

UK: Cricket: £265.98 | Greyhound Racing: £111.53 | Horse Racing: -£814.21 | Motor Sport: -£475.00 | Soccer: -£451.51 | Tennis: £18.21 Total P&L: -£1,345.00

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Shep (AUS) 30th Mar : R12 450m Gr5
30-Mar-14 11:27 30-Mar-14 11:29 -175.00
Greyhound Racing / Sale (AUS) 30th Mar : R10 440m Gr5
30-Mar-14 10:40 30-Mar-14 10:41 12.00

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 4 of 4 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Laun (AUS) 30th Mar : R12 1680m Pace M
30-Mar-14 11:15 30-Mar-14 11:24 18.48
Horse Racing / Dubb (AUS) 30th Mar : R1 1100m 3yo
30-Mar-14 03:25 30-Mar-14 03:29 14.40
Horse Racing / Gawl (AUS) 30th Mar : R1 3340m Hrd
30-Mar-14 03:15 30-Mar-14 03:20 -318.00
Horse Racing / Seym (AUS) 30th Mar : R1 1600m 3yo
30-Mar-14 03:00 30-Mar-14 03:02 -277.91

Cricket Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Cricket / Australia v India : Match Odds
30-Mar-14 14:30 30-Mar-14 17:20 242.72
Cricket / Bangladesh v Pakistan : Match Odds
30-Mar-14 10:30 30-Mar-14 13:47 23.26

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 8 of 8 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Henl 30th Mar : OR 550m
30-Mar-14 20:45 30-Mar-14 20:49 26.65
Greyhound Racing / Henl 30th Mar : OR 550m
30-Mar-14 20:30 30-Mar-14 20:33 38.76
Greyhound Racing / Henl 30th Mar : OR 550m
30-Mar-14 20:00 30-Mar-14 20:04 96.90
Greyhound Racing / Henl 30th Mar : A3 460m
30-Mar-14 19:00 30-Mar-14 19:03 72.67
Greyhound Racing / Henl 30th Mar : OR 460m
30-Mar-14 18:45 30-Mar-14 18:50 -232.46
Greyhound Racing / Hove 30th Mar : A5 515m
30-Mar-14 13:44 30-Mar-14 13:47 23.63
Greyhound Racing / BVue 30th Mar : A6 470m
30-Mar-14 11:48 30-Mar-14 11:51 42.35
Greyhound Racing / Shawf 29th Mar : HC 480m
29-Mar-14 19:31 29-Mar-14 19:34 43.03

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 7 of 7 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Hawth (US) 30th Mar : R1 6f Claim
30-Mar-14 19:50 30-Mar-14 20:16 -300.00
Horse Racing / Aque (US) 30th Mar : R3 1m Mdn
30-Mar-14 19:18 30-Mar-14 19:24 -101.00
Horse Racing / Turfway (US) 30th Mar : R3 1m Claim
30-Mar-14 19:06 30-Mar-14 19:16 16.96
Horse Racing / Tampa (US) 30th Mar : R3 7f Claim
30-Mar-14 18:54 30-Mar-14 19:05 12.11
Horse Racing / Ascot 30th Mar : 2m3f Mdn Hrd
30-Mar-14 14:00 30-Mar-14 14:08 20.40
Horse Racing / Scots (RSA) 30th Mar : R1 1200m Plt
30-Mar-14 11:40 30-Mar-14 11:51 -228.68
Horse Racing / CharlT (US) 29th Mar : R7 7f Allw
30-Mar-14 02:44 30-Mar-14 02:41 -234.00

Motor Sport Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Motor Sport / Malaysian GP : Winner
30-Mar-14 09:00 30-Mar-14 10:52 -475.00

Soccer Showing 1 - 7 of 7 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Soccer / Napoli v Juventus : Over/Under 1.5 Goals
30-Mar-14 19:45 30-Mar-14 21:31 49.42
Soccer / Villarreal v Elche : Over/Under 2.5 Goals
30-Mar-14 18:00 30-Mar-14 19:52 -500.00
Soccer / Liverpool v Tottenham : Over/Under 5.5 Goals
30-Mar-14 16:00 30-Mar-14 17:52 35.41
Soccer / Hearts v Hibernian : Over/Under 1.5 Goals
30-Mar-14 12:45 30-Mar-14 14:37 61.77
Soccer / Valladolid v Almeria : Correct Score
30-Mar-14 11:00 30-Mar-14 12:50 11.63
Soccer / Arsenal v Man City : Match Odds
29-Mar-14 17:30 29-Mar-14 19:23 58.14
Soccer / Arsenal v Man City : Over/Under 2.5 Goals
29-Mar-14 17:30 29-Mar-14 19:23 -167.88

Tennis Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Tennis / Nadal v N Djokovic : Set Betting
30-Mar-14 19:35 30-Mar-14 21:07 18.21

Report undern • April 1, 2014 2:06 PM BST

Challenge Update:
Nothing like coming back from a deep deep hole .... woke up after a solid sleep and set about focusing on getting in a good days betting to keep this challenge alive. The Aussie markets went well .... and while I had a blip or two later on still was able to pull the challenge bank back up to a respectable level. Big thanks to West Ham for the big win .... but NZ in the cricket didn't help ....

Starting Bank: £1000
26/03/2014: £1110
27/03/2014: £1329
28/03/2014: £1477
29/03/2014: £2402
30/03/2014: £ 331
31/03/2014: £1232

Aussie: Greyhound Racing: £307.60 | Horse Racing: £35.99 Total P&L: £343.59

UK: Cricket: -£66.28 | Greyhound Racing: £47.99 | Horse Racing: £251.01 | Soccer: £325.10 Total P&L: £557.82

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 20 of 24 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Graf (AUS) 31st Mar : R7 480m Rest
31-Mar-14 11:10 31-Mar-14 11:11 10.24
Greyhound Racing / Shep (AUS) 31st Mar : R7 390m Gr4/5
31-Mar-14 11:06 31-Mar-14 11:07 18.93
Greyhound Racing / APrk (AUS) 31st Mar : R5 520m Gr5
31-Mar-14 11:02 31-Mar-14 11:04 15.19
Greyhound Racing / Laun (AUS) 31st Mar : R5 515m Gr5
31-Mar-14 10:58 31-Mar-14 10:59 12.00
Greyhound Racing / Shep (AUS) 31st Mar : To Be Placed
31-Mar-14 10:46 31-Mar-14 10:47 17.89
Greyhound Racing / APrk (AUS) 31st Mar : R4 520m Nvce
31-Mar-14 10:42 31-Mar-14 10:44 -53.40
Greyhound Racing / Laun (AUS) 31st Mar : R4 600m Gr5
31-Mar-14 10:38 31-Mar-14 10:39 12.00
Greyhound Racing / AnPk (AUS) 31st Mar : R7 515m Final
31-Mar-14 10:34 31-Mar-14 10:35 12.00
Greyhound Racing / Shep (AUS) 31st Mar : R5 450m Gr5
31-Mar-14 10:26 31-Mar-14 10:27 20.08
Greyhound Racing / APrk (AUS) 31st Mar : R3 520m Nvce
31-Mar-14 10:22 31-Mar-14 10:23 9.33
Greyhound Racing / Laun (AUS) 31st Mar : To Be Placed
31-Mar-14 10:18 31-Mar-14 10:20 -26.38
Greyhound Racing / AnPk (AUS) 31st Mar : R6 515m Final
31-Mar-14 10:14 31-Mar-14 10:15 12.15
Greyhound Racing / Graf (AUS) 31st Mar : R4 305m Mdn
31-Mar-14 10:10 31-Mar-14 10:11 19.74
Greyhound Racing / Laun (AUS) 31st Mar : R2 515m Juv
31-Mar-14 09:59 31-Mar-14 10:01 46.20
Greyhound Racing / AnPk (AUS) 31st Mar : R5 600m Gr5
31-Mar-14 09:56 31-Mar-14 09:57 8.01
Greyhound Racing / Graf (AUS) 31st Mar : R3 407m Gr4/5
31-Mar-14 09:48 31-Mar-14 09:49 17.19
Greyhound Racing / Shep (AUS) 31st Mar : R3 390m Heat
31-Mar-14 09:45 31-Mar-14 09:47 17.70
Greyhound Racing / Shep (AUS) 31st Mar : R2 390m Heat
31-Mar-14 09:26 31-Mar-14 09:27 25.22
Greyhound Racing / Geel (AUS) 31st Mar : R12 400m Gr5
31-Mar-14 09:22 31-Mar-14 09:23 23.99
Greyhound Racing / Shep (AUS) 31st Mar : R1 390m Heat
31-Mar-14 09:08 31-Mar-14 09:09 23.99

Greyhound Racing Showing 21 - 24 of 24 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Bath (AUS) 31st Mar : R10 307m Heat
31-Mar-14 09:04 31-Mar-14 09:06 10.00
Greyhound Racing / AnPk (AUS) 31st Mar : R1 515m Gr5
31-Mar-14 08:34 31-Mar-14 08:35 15.67
Greyhound Racing / Bath (AUS) 31st Mar : R8 520m Heat
31-Mar-14 08:28 31-Mar-14 08:29 20.17
Greyhound Racing / Bath (AUS) 31st Mar : R7 618m Gr5
31-Mar-14 08:12 31-Mar-14 08:14 19.69

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Pinj (AUS) 31st Mar : R8 2185m Pace M
31-Mar-14 09:51 31-Mar-14 09:58 12.00
Horse Racing / Pinj (AUS) 31st Mar : R5 2185m Pace M
31-Mar-14 08:16 31-Mar-14 08:23 23.99

Cricket Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Cricket / New Zealand v Sri Lanka : Match Odds
31-Mar-14 14:30 31-Mar-14 17:24 -161.25
Cricket / England v Netherlands : Match Odds
31-Mar-14 10:30 31-Mar-14 13:34 94.97

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 10 of 10 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Romfd 31st Mar : S2 575m
31-Mar-14 19:58 31-Mar-14 20:03 108.96
Greyhound Racing / Nott 31st Mar : OR 480m
31-Mar-14 19:32 31-Mar-14 19:48 -236.33
Greyhound Racing / Yarm 31st Mar : A4 462m
31-Mar-14 19:22 31-Mar-14 19:25 11.61
Greyhound Racing / Nott 31st Mar : A2 500m
31-Mar-14 19:16 31-Mar-14 19:20 87.31
Greyhound Racing / Romfd 31st Mar : A7 400m
31-Mar-14 18:56 31-Mar-14 18:59 134.49
Greyhound Racing / Yarm 31st Mar : A7 462m
31-Mar-14 18:49 31-Mar-14 18:53 -187.00
Greyhound Racing / Swin 31st Mar : A6 480m
31-Mar-14 18:04 31-Mar-14 18:06 67.61
Greyhound Racing / Swin 31st Mar : A4 480m
31-Mar-14 17:47 31-Mar-14 17:50 21.72
Greyhound Racing / Swin 31st Mar : A4 480m
31-Mar-14 15:38 31-Mar-14 15:40 23.63
Greyhound Racing / HGrn 31st Mar : A4 480m
31-Mar-14 12:18 31-Mar-14 12:19 15.99

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 9 of 9 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Kemp 31st Mar : 1m Hcap
31-Mar-14 17:30 31-Mar-14 17:35 19.17
Horse Racing / Plump 31st Mar : 2m2f Hcap Hrd
31-Mar-14 17:20 31-Mar-14 17:31 33.91
Horse Racing / Hex 31st Mar : 2m NHF
31-Mar-14 17:10 31-Mar-14 17:26 -195.00
Horse Racing / Kemp 31st Mar : 2m Cond Stks
31-Mar-14 17:00 31-Mar-14 17:09 16.85
Horse Racing / Plump 31st Mar : 2m5f Hcap Hrd
31-Mar-14 15:20 31-Mar-14 15:25 23.07
Horse Racing / Plump 31st Mar : 2m4f Hcap Chs
31-Mar-14 14:50 31-Mar-14 14:56 26.16
Horse Racing / Hex 31st Mar : 3m Nov Hrd
31-Mar-14 14:40 31-Mar-14 14:48 216.09
Horse Racing / Kemp 31st Mar : 1m2f Mdn Stks
31-Mar-14 14:30 31-Mar-14 14:34 -161.51
Horse Racing / Hex 31st Mar : 2m Nov Hrd
31-Mar-14 14:10 31-Mar-14 14:16 272.27

Soccer Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Soccer / Sunderland v West Ham : Match Odds
31-Mar-14 20:00 31-Mar-14 21:52 325.10

Report undern • April 1, 2014 2:11 PM BST

Today's betting is currently as follows ....

Aussie: Greyhound Racing: -£277.70 | Horse Racing: £217.07 | Soccer: £157.56 Total P&L: £96.93

UK: Cricket: £133.90 | Horse Racing: £96.90 Total P&L: £230.80

.... Hopefully I can move forward rather than give it all back ...

Report undern • April 1, 2014 6:56 PM BST

I seriously have to stay away from the cricket betting ... done my nuts again ....

Report SHAPESHIFTER • April 1, 2014 9:49 PM BST

....Australian dogs is not in profit, either.

undern, you were up £320.00. You need to create a plan rather than 'just bet'. You need an EXIT on the day when you are up.

Walk away early a winner on the day. Enjoy the fresh air and rest your eyes from the pixels.

you wrote
.... Hopefully I can move forward rather than give it all back ...

Why not quit for the day £300 up? I got dinged in-running today (horse went to 1000, I didn't close the lay, three fallers and it won!) and rather than attack the loss, continued and made back 20% of it over the afternoon AND tonight on football.

Report undern • April 1, 2014 11:11 PM BST

Funny enough Shapeshifter .... I layed the exact same horse .... had to rush out somewhere. Watched it until it hit high odds ... saw that it was coming 4th and falling back so took off out of the house only to return not realising what had happened ....

Report undern • April 1, 2014 11:48 PM BST

Challenge Update:
A profitable day with a few downs along the way - been out tonight ... nice win on over 1.5 goals ip on the MU footy game. Will play a bit tomorrow morning but I have some work to get on with and also out most of afternoon ....

Starting Bank: £1000
26/03/2014: £1110
27/03/2014: £1329
28/03/2014: £1477
29/03/2014: £2402
30/03/2014: £ 331
31/03/2014: £1232
01/04/2014: £1721

Aussie: Greyhound Racing: -£277.70 | Horse Racing: £217.07 | Soccer: £157.56 Total P&L: £96.93

UK: Cricket: -£204.91 | Greyhound Racing: £192.63 | Horse Racing: £137.34 | Soccer: £266.51 Total P&L: £391.57

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 20 of 20 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Lism (AUS) 1st Apr : R7 520m FFA
01-Apr-14 10:42 01-Apr-14 10:44 74.64
Greyhound Racing / Town (AUS) 1st Apr : R4 498m Gr5
01-Apr-14 10:35 01-Apr-14 10:36 44.78
Greyhound Racing / Wgul (AUS) 1st Apr : R6 460m Final
01-Apr-14 10:27 01-Apr-14 10:28 251.17
Greyhound Racing / Lism (AUS) 1st Apr : R6 420m FFA
01-Apr-14 10:23 01-Apr-14 10:24 -224.00
Greyhound Racing / Gosf (AUS) 1st Apr : R5 515m Gr4/5
01-Apr-14 10:20 01-Apr-14 10:22 13.58
Greyhound Racing / Town (AUS) 1st Apr : R3 380m Heat
01-Apr-14 10:12 01-Apr-14 10:13 -256.00
Greyhound Racing / Lism (AUS) 1st Apr : R5 635m Gr5
01-Apr-14 10:05 01-Apr-14 10:07 12.09
Greyhound Racing / Town (AUS) 1st Apr : R2 380m Nvce
01-Apr-14 09:53 01-Apr-14 09:54 52.19
Greyhound Racing / Lism (AUS) 1st Apr : R4 420m Mdn
01-Apr-14 09:41 01-Apr-14 09:42 139.17
Greyhound Racing / Town (AUS) 1st Apr : R1 380m Mdn
01-Apr-14 09:35 01-Apr-14 09:36 28.23
Greyhound Racing / Wgul (AUS) 1st Apr : To Be Placed
01-Apr-14 09:27 01-Apr-14 09:28 10.09
Greyhound Racing / Lism (AUS) 1st Apr : R3 420m Gr5
01-Apr-14 09:23 01-Apr-14 09:24 64.43
Greyhound Racing / Gosf (AUS) 1st Apr : R2 400m Gr5
01-Apr-14 09:20 01-Apr-14 09:21 28.41
Greyhound Racing / Hshm (AUS) 1st Apr : R12 410m Gr5
01-Apr-14 09:12 01-Apr-14 09:14 21.49
Greyhound Racing / Wgul (AUS) 1st Apr : To Be Placed
01-Apr-14 09:09 01-Apr-14 09:10 -100.00
Greyhound Racing / Lism (AUS) 1st Apr : R1 420m Mdn
01-Apr-14 08:42 01-Apr-14 08:44 -244.00
Greyhound Racing / Hshm (AUS) 1st Apr : R10 410m Gr4/5
01-Apr-14 08:38 01-Apr-14 08:39 18.77
Greyhound Racing / Ipsw (AUS) 1st Apr : R9 431m Gr3/4
01-Apr-14 08:32 01-Apr-14 08:33 25.91
Greyhound Racing / Hshm (AUS) 1st Apr : R9 480m Heat
01-Apr-14 08:22 01-Apr-14 08:23 -252.00
Greyhound Racing / Ipsw (AUS) 1st Apr : R8 431m FFA
01-Apr-14 08:13 01-Apr-14 08:14 13.35

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 3 of 3 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / GlPk (AUS) 1st Apr : R3 1730m Pace M
01-Apr-14 10:15 01-Apr-14 10:19 10.68
Horse Racing / Bend (AUS) 1st Apr : R1 2150m Pace M
01-Apr-14 08:26 01-Apr-14 08:31 199.19
Horse Racing / Town (AUS) 1st Apr : R7 1400m Hcap
01-Apr-14 08:03 01-Apr-14 08:08 7.20

Soccer Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Soccer / Central Coast v Beijing Guoan : Over/Under 0.5 Goals
01-Apr-14 09:30 01-Apr-14 11:03 157.56

Cricket Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Cricket / Pakistan v West Indies : Match Odds
01-Apr-14 14:30 01-Apr-14 17:26 -338.81
Cricket / Bangladesh v Australia : Match Odds
01-Apr-14 10:30 01-Apr-14 13:31 133.90

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Newc 1st Apr : A5 480m
01-Apr-14 19:01 01-Apr-14 19:06 170.20
Greyhound Racing / Sund 1st Apr : A7 450m
01-Apr-14 14:37 01-Apr-14 14:40 22.43

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 11 of 11 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / SunP (US) 1st Apr : R9 1m Claim
01-Apr-14 23:18 01-Apr-14 23:26 20.49
Horse Racing / Kemp 1st Apr : 6f Hcap
01-Apr-14 17:20 01-Apr-14 17:24 19.59
Horse Racing / Newt 1st Apr : 2m5f Nov Chs
01-Apr-14 17:10 01-Apr-14 17:16 31.81
Horse Racing / Sthl 1st Apr : 1m Hcap
01-Apr-14 17:00 01-Apr-14 17:04 19.14
Horse Racing / Kemp 1st Apr : 1m3f Hcap
01-Apr-14 16:50 01-Apr-14 16:54 27.13
Horse Racing / Newt 1st Apr : 3m3f Hcap Hrd
01-Apr-14 16:40 01-Apr-14 16:48 33.91
Horse Racing / Sthl 1st Apr : 7f Hcap
01-Apr-14 16:30 01-Apr-14 16:33 31.98
Horse Racing / Newt 1st Apr : 2m5f Hcap Chs
01-Apr-14 16:10 01-Apr-14 16:16 -143.76
Horse Racing / Kemp 1st Apr : 1m Hcap
01-Apr-14 14:20 01-Apr-14 14:26 -2.00
Horse Racing / Newt 1st Apr : 2m1f Mdn Hrd
01-Apr-14 14:10 01-Apr-14 14:15 2.15
Horse Racing / Sthl 1st Apr : 1m3f Hcap
01-Apr-14 14:00 01-Apr-14 14:03 96.90

Soccer Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Soccer / Man Utd v B Munich : Over/Under 4.5 Goals
01-Apr-14 19:45 01-Apr-14 21:37 24.26
Soccer / Man Utd v B Munich : Over/Under 1.5 Goals
01-Apr-14 19:45 01-Apr-14 21:10 242.25

Report SHAPESHIFTER • April 2, 2014 11:38 AM BST

Based on 1700, you are now 3 days ahead of completing this in 80 days (based on 6% a day)

To achieve this, you could have done this by doing the following;

day 1 - 60
2 - 63
3 - 68
4 - 72
5 - 75
6 - 80
7 - 85
8 - 90
9 - 95
10 - 100

If you made just 110 today, you are still on target for 77 days.

Or, you could make slightly less, bank it and still be on schedule for 80.

Best analogy....tortoise and the hare

Report undern • April 2, 2014 12:07 PM BST

I understand where you are coming from however the problem is when the staking gets higher and higher (which I don't tend to handle too well) and things like the greyhound markets for my bot (seems to be filtering lots of selections out recently) don't have the volume for me to put much more on ... anyway lets see how I get on ....

currently today is as follows:

Aussie: Greyhound Racing: £81.57 | Horse Racing: -£9.32 Total P&L: £72.25

UK: Horse Racing: £110.82 Total P&L: £110.82

Played a bit last night on the USA racing ... so easy sometimes and other times so bloody hard. Out soon for early arvo. Bots set up but doubt there will be many bets due to filtering.

Report SHAPESHIFTER • April 2, 2014 12:25 PM BST

U.S. horse racing a mindfield for bots. Those who use exchanges are aware of them and take advantage. Will push in prices with very little money to push out markets on others. Real money is coast to coast and what is 12/1 on betfair will be pushed to 19/1 with small bets when they know the money is going to come to offices and push it to 5/1 while the odds react slowly.

They laugh with cigars in hand, their gold chains jiggling.

The only way to make money on U.S. is to look for value in form.

All the above told to me by a pro in the states.

Report undern • April 2, 2014 12:39 PM BST

Well the bad news or is it good news

... a phone call a second ago completely wiped out what I was supposed to be doing this afternoon ... so guess I will stick around in the office and play on the computer all day .... I will be sensible and be patient with my betting ....

The bots I use are one for greyhound (UK), two for horses (UK) .... all the other betting is done without a bot simply by me. Some markets I use common-sense, other markets I use certain "trigger" points be it odds movements and/or specific patterns in a runners times/LTO results and how I think the race will pan out. Other markets are pure "intelligent" guess work

.... hey I even think something will happen and deliberately bet on the opposite happening

Report undern • April 2, 2014 2:24 PM BST

Yipppeee ... I have gotten over the first hurdle of Reged's Lay Comp which started today .... hopefully I will remember to post something up on the thread tomorrow

Report undern • April 2, 2014 3:31 PM BST

I tell you what I can be so wasteful with my betting ... too easy to give it back thinking I can simply it back again if things don't go my way .... some wasteful betting this arvo especially when I was expecting to be at a meeting all arvo.

Report undern • April 2, 2014 6:11 PM BST

Challenge Update:
Been playing with a bit too heavy stakes this arvo ... and thought best to update now. May set up the greyhound bot for some of the TV racing or perhaps not bother .... feel a bit "loose" with my betting so best to not push it .... so close to getting a nice trade profit on the Melbourne footy game earlier but ended up with a loss. Think that miss in turning a profit threw my thought patterns out a bit today ....

Starting Bank: £1000
26/03/2014: £1110
27/03/2014: £1329
28/03/2014: £1477
29/03/2014: £2402
30/03/2014: £ 331
31/03/2014: £1232
01/04/2014: £1721
02/04/2014: £2094

Aussie: Greyhound Racing: £81.57 | Horse Racing: -£9.32 Total P&L: £72.25

UK: Greyhound Racing: £46.60 | Horse Racing: £349.33 | Soccer: -£95.64 Total P&L: £300.29

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Bend (AUS) 2nd Apr : R12 425m Gr5
02-Apr-14 09:15 02-Apr-14 09:16 81.57

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 4 of 4 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Redc (AUS) 2nd Apr : R3 1780m Pace M
02-Apr-14 09:20 02-Apr-14 09:27 23.99
Horse Racing / Pinj (AUS) 2nd Apr : R7 1200m Hcap
02-Apr-14 09:05 02-Apr-14 09:08 35.10
Horse Racing / Shep (AUS) 2nd Apr : R3 2190m Pace M
02-Apr-14 09:00 02-Apr-14 09:05 -92.40
Horse Racing / Pinj (AUS) 2nd Apr : R6 1600m Hcap
02-Apr-14 08:30 02-Apr-14 08:34 23.99

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 4 of 4 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / BVue 2nd Apr : A8 470m
02-Apr-14 15:38 02-Apr-14 15:40 -117.55
Greyhound Racing / Newc 2nd Apr : To Be Placed
02-Apr-14 13:44 02-Apr-14 13:46 26.51
Greyhound Racing / HGrn 2nd Apr : A2 480m
02-Apr-14 13:33 02-Apr-14 13:36 111.87
Greyhound Racing / Newc 2nd Apr : HC 480m
02-Apr-14 13:27 02-Apr-14 13:32 25.77

Soccer Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Soccer / Yokohama FM v Melbourne : Over/Under 3.5 Goals
02-Apr-14 11:30 02-Apr-14 13:17 -95.64

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 20 of 25 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Kemp 2nd Apr : 6f Mdn Stks
02-Apr-14 17:55 02-Apr-14 17:57 -10.02
Horse Racing / Winc 2nd Apr : 3m1f Hunt Chs
02-Apr-14 17:45 02-Apr-14 17:52 223.34
Horse Racing / Ling 2nd Apr : 2m Hcap
02-Apr-14 17:25 02-Apr-14 17:36 216.09
Horse Racing / Winc 2nd Apr : 2m NHF
02-Apr-14 17:15 02-Apr-14 17:21 -186.66
Horse Racing / Sthl 2nd Apr : 1m6f Hcap
02-Apr-14 17:05 02-Apr-14 17:09 51.69
Horse Racing / Ling 2nd Apr : 1m2f Hcap
02-Apr-14 16:55 02-Apr-14 16:59 29.54
Horse Racing / Winc 2nd Apr : 3m1f Hcap Chs
02-Apr-14 16:45 02-Apr-14 16:53 -237.87
Horse Racing / Leop 2nd Apr : 1m Listed
02-Apr-14 16:40 02-Apr-14 16:48 188.95
Horse Racing / Sthl 2nd Apr : To Be Placed
02-Apr-14 16:35 02-Apr-14 16:38 68.24
Horse Racing / Ling 2nd Apr : 1m2f Hcap
02-Apr-14 16:25 02-Apr-14 16:28 48.45
Horse Racing / Winc 2nd Apr : 2m6f Hcap Hrd
02-Apr-14 16:15 02-Apr-14 16:23 70.74
Horse Racing / Leop 2nd Apr : 1m Mdn
02-Apr-14 16:10 02-Apr-14 16:15 40.40
Horse Racing / Winc 2nd Apr : 3m1f Chs
02-Apr-14 15:45 02-Apr-14 16:08 117.06
Horse Racing / Leop 2nd Apr : 1m Mdn
02-Apr-14 15:40 02-Apr-14 15:47 67.83
Horse Racing / Sthl 2nd Apr : 1m Hcap
02-Apr-14 15:35 02-Apr-14 15:38 124.63
Horse Racing / Ling 2nd Apr : 5f Hcap
02-Apr-14 15:25 02-Apr-14 15:27 -366.56
Horse Racing / Winc 2nd Apr : 2m5f Hcap Chs
02-Apr-14 15:15 02-Apr-14 15:22 67.83
Horse Racing / Sthl 2nd Apr : 5f Hcap
02-Apr-14 15:05 02-Apr-14 15:07 -74.00
Horse Racing / Ling 2nd Apr : 7f Mdn Stks
02-Apr-14 14:55 02-Apr-14 14:58 -129.01
Horse Racing / Sthl 2nd Apr : 5f Mdn Stks
02-Apr-14 14:35 02-Apr-14 14:38 -132.72

Horse Racing Showing 21 - 25 of 25 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Winc 2nd Apr : 2m6f Nov Hrd
02-Apr-14 14:15 02-Apr-14 14:21 60.56
Horse Racing / MountP (US) 1st Apr : R3 6f Claim
02-Apr-14 00:46 02-Apr-14 00:51 17.28
Horse Racing / TPara (US) 1st Apr : R8 7f Allw
02-Apr-14 00:21 02-Apr-14 00:31 12.58
Horse Racing / SunP (US) 1st Apr : R11 6f Mdn
02-Apr-14 00:10 02-Apr-14 00:20 29.28
Horse Racing / SunP (US) 1st Apr : R10 7f Allow
01-Apr-14 23:44 01-Apr-14 23:53 51.68

Report undern • April 2, 2014 6:19 PM BST

so after all that ... still had a bet in the 6.10pm Leop race ... fortunately it was a very nice win. get off the computer Undern ...

Report undern • April 3, 2014 8:59 AM BST

Well there you go ... just had my biggest win on here for a while .... so I probably will take some sensible advice of Shapeshifter and not push it too hard.

Played last night on some greyhounds and footy .... nice profits. I have a lot of (other) stuff to get on with today so busy working and played a couple of Aussie mkts this morning won a nice amount on one bet then shortly after lost most of that and then layed a heavy greyhound fav (think it was 1.43) for £300 bet .... yep luckily got checked at the 1st corner and never recovered .... nice win and might simply set up bots to play later on ....

Report undern • April 3, 2014 9:05 AM BST

So after yesterday's update the betting p&l is as follows:

Aussie: Greyhound Racing: £673.71 | Horse Racing: £10.10 Total P&L: £683.81

UK: Greyhound Racing: £444.82 | Horse Racing: £32.19 | Soccer: £89.02 Total P&L: £566.03

Report undern • April 3, 2014 11:02 AM BST

Laying #5 in 11.03am greyhound race

Report undern • April 3, 2014 2:40 PM BST

just about to head out somewhere .... what a bloody good day ... feel like turning off the bots now and take the rest of the day off .... just won a nice bet on Argocat to place (3 places) .... to win a very very nice payout ..... posted it up on Knight Commanders's Anyone fancy a lay thread

Report undern • April 3, 2014 2:46 PM BST

currently p&l are as follows ...

Aussie: Greyhound Racing: £693.61 | Horse Racing: £10.10 Total P&L: £703.71

UK: Cricket: £58.14 | Greyhound Racing: £540.07 | Horse Racing: £643.50 | Soccer: £89.02 Total P&L: £1,330.73

Report undern • April 4, 2014 12:19 AM BST

Challenge Update:
Well there you go what an exciting day .... just got back in as I have been out most of later arvo/evening. Some very nice wins ... and probably good that I wasn't around later on to mess it all up. Got back and noticed one disappointment - one of my bot horse lays went down ... although probably lucky that I wasn't here to bet some more on it.

I do fully realise days like today aren't the norm .. and on some occasions I have been going in too heavy. I will be trying my hardest over the next day or two to say in control and not get carried away.

Starting Bank: £1000
26/03/2014: £1110
27/03/2014: £1329
28/03/2014: £1477
29/03/2014: £2402
30/03/2014: £ 331
31/03/2014: £1232
01/04/2014: £1721
02/04/2014: £2094
03/04/2014: £4201

Aussie: Greyhound Racing: £693.61 | Horse Racing: £10.10 Total P&L: £703.71

UK: Cricket: £175.39 | Greyhound Racing: £567.60 | Horse Racing: £550.88 | Soccer: £89.02 | Tennis: £20.35 Total P&L: £1,403.24

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 4 of 4 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / SPrk (AUS) 3rd Apr : R2 595m Heat
03-Apr-14 09:24 03-Apr-14 09:25 19.90
Greyhound Racing / Mait (AUS) 3rd Apr : R10 400m Gr5
03-Apr-14 08:53 03-Apr-14 08:54 634.68
Greyhound Racing / Warr (AUS) 3rd Apr : R1 390m Heat
03-Apr-14 08:45 03-Apr-14 08:47 -200.00
Greyhound Racing / Mait (AUS) 3rd Apr : R9 400m Heat
03-Apr-14 08:34 03-Apr-14 08:35 239.03

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Gera (AUS) 3rd Apr : R4 1400m Hcap
03-Apr-14 08:30 03-Apr-14 08:33 10.10

Cricket Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Cricket / Sri Lanka v West Indies : Match Odds
03-Apr-14 14:00 03-Apr-14 17:31 117.25
Cricket / Australia (W) v West Indies (W) : Match Odds
03-Apr-14 09:30 03-Apr-14 12:28 58.14

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 11 of 11 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Crayfd 3rd Apr : A3 380m
03-Apr-14 18:04 03-Apr-14 18:06 27.53
Greyhound Racing / Sheff 3rd Apr : A8 500M
03-Apr-14 12:58 03-Apr-14 13:00 33.64
Greyhound Racing / Sund 3rd Apr : A8 450m
03-Apr-14 11:03 03-Apr-14 11:05 61.61
Greyhound Racing / Pboro 2nd Apr : B2 435m
02-Apr-14 20:58 02-Apr-14 21:02 154.60
Greyhound Racing / Romfd 2nd Apr : S3 575m
02-Apr-14 20:50 02-Apr-14 20:59 179.92
Greyhound Racing / Pboro 2nd Apr : A8 420m
02-Apr-14 20:42 02-Apr-14 20:46 34.80
Greyhound Racing / Romfd 2nd Apr : A4 400m
02-Apr-14 20:34 02-Apr-14 20:37 -247.00
Greyhound Racing / Romfd 2nd Apr : A5 400m
02-Apr-14 20:18 02-Apr-14 20:21 61.04
Greyhound Racing / Pboro 2nd Apr : B9 435m
02-Apr-14 20:10 02-Apr-14 20:14 99.15
Greyhound Racing / Romfd 2nd Apr : A5 400m
02-Apr-14 20:02 02-Apr-14 20:05 16.96
Greyhound Racing / Pboro 2nd Apr : A9 420m
02-Apr-14 19:39 02-Apr-14 19:44 145.35

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 12 of 12 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Taun 3rd Apr : 2m3f Hcap Hrd
03-Apr-14 16:30 03-Apr-14 16:37 25.28
Horse Racing / Aint 3rd Apr : 2m5f Hunt Chs
03-Apr-14 15:40 03-Apr-14 15:48 -117.90
Horse Racing / Aint (3TBP) 3rd Apr : 3 TBP
03-Apr-14 14:30 03-Apr-14 14:42 331.97
Horse Racing / Taun 3rd Apr : 2m1f Hcap Hrd
03-Apr-14 14:10 03-Apr-14 14:15 230.62
Horse Racing / Aint 3rd Apr : 2m1f Juv Grd1 Hrd
03-Apr-14 14:00 03-Apr-14 14:05 -25.59
Horse Racing / Ling 3rd Apr : 1m2f Sell Stks
03-Apr-14 13:50 03-Apr-14 13:53 74.31
Horse Racing / Kemp 2nd Apr : 1m Hcap
02-Apr-14 20:25 02-Apr-14 20:27 -133.30
Horse Racing / Kemp 2nd Apr : 1m Mdn Stks
02-Apr-14 19:55 02-Apr-14 19:58 -136.29
Horse Racing / Kemp 2nd Apr : 1m3f Hcap
02-Apr-14 19:25 02-Apr-14 19:30 24.22
Horse Racing / Leop 2nd Apr : 1m6f Hcap
02-Apr-14 18:40 02-Apr-14 18:52 43.07
Horse Racing / Kemp 2nd Apr : 7f Hcap
02-Apr-14 18:25 02-Apr-14 18:27 137.59
Horse Racing / Leop 2nd Apr : 1m2f Hcap
02-Apr-14 18:10 02-Apr-14 18:16 96.90

Soccer Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Soccer / Real Madrid v Dortmund : Over/Under 4.5 Goals
02-Apr-14 19:45 02-Apr-14 21:38 89.02

Tennis Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Tennis / Tomljanovic v J Jankovic : Match Odds
03-Apr-14 21:27 03-Apr-14 23:55 20.35

Report Mike-lfc • April 4, 2014 12:35 AM BST

why don't you do this in a more popular forun mate

Report Mike-lfc • April 4, 2014 12:35 AM BST

h

Report Mike-lfc • April 4, 2014 12:36 AM BST

fff

Report undern • April 4, 2014 9:00 AM BST

Up late last night so bit tired this morning ... apart from a nice bet late last night before I went to bed haven't bet anything this morning. Looking back at some of the bets from yesterday ... well indeed lots of the larger wins (apart from a nice place bet win) is really down to taking on low odds favs or putting in a lay ir at low odds ... I know I can't "blindly" continue with taking on low odds favs ....

Report undern • April 4, 2014 10:02 AM BST

Nothing like say I am going to do something and then turn around and bet a bit too wildly ... actually took on a tipsters Aussie selections and duely lost (I don't normally do it but just discovered the selections and thought why not) .... only to break yesterday's biggest win on a lay of a Aussie horse race ... in total would have been around £1000 down this morning but the bet came in ... fortunately the horse missed the start and I ended up winning.

... and yes I know I can't go on doing this.

Report SHAPESHIFTER • April 4, 2014 10:45 AM BST

undern • April 2, 2014 12:07 PM BST
I understand where you are coming from however the problem is when the staking gets higher and higher (which I don't tend to handle too well) and things like the greyhound markets for my bot (seems to be filtering lots of selections out recently) don't have the volume for me to put much more on ... anyway lets see how I get on ....

I took this on board and looked at my approach that uses betfair and other sources to hit my targets during the month. I aim to make so much per 'session' here and elsewhere. The math then targets the number of times I have to focus to hit my mark for the month. Right now, I need 17 (today could be two, afternoon and evening, weekends I try to avoid).

So when I ponder the 'bigger targets'., like yourself, I know what you are talking about - the mounting numbers.

So, my brain looked at taking it in the opposite direction and we'll have to see how it evolves but the basis would be to have a target of 8% in the begining that is REDUCED every 10/12 targets.

So by the time you get to around 80 targets/sessions, your target for the next 20 is around a 1% increase.

More importantly, a stop loss of 5% that is live (i.e. gain 3%, loose 5% you stop, NOT 5% of the start of the day) will keep one sane.

Report undern • April 4, 2014 11:27 AM BST

Laying the #4 in the 11.28 greyhound race (UK)

Report undern • April 4, 2014 11:32 AM BST

BAGS Cards / Hove 4th Apr / 11:28 A6 515m 4. Dubai Fantasy Lay 35888814120 04-Apr-14
11:27 C 3.7 46.30 3.7 46.30
BAGS Cards / Hove 4th Apr / 11:28 A6 515m 4. Dubai Fantasy Lay 35888814017 04-Apr-14
11:27 SP C 38.10 38.10 3.62 38.10

... always put on some extra if I am around for the bot lays ... well tbh not always but nearly always

Report undern • April 4, 2014 8:25 PM BST

Been another good day .... especially watching recorded Arrow just then

Laying #5 in 8.26pm Greyhound race

Report undern • April 4, 2014 8:59 PM BST

Nothing like taking on a heavy fav in the greyhound TV and losing only to go "****" or bust and lay a heavier fav in the US horse racing to make it a very very profitable day .... yep I think it is indicator to stop for the night. Will be spending more time with my wife over the weekend so won't be going playing too heavily over weekend.

Report undern • April 4, 2014 9:25 PM BST

Challenge Update:
To be honest I am a bit tired ... another great day ... perhaps spoilt by a few losses (cricket springs to mind) and made a bad mistake in laying the wrong Aussie greyhound which cost me a couple of hundred. Still can't complain .... need to settle a bit and not keep pushing too hard.

Starting Bank: £1000
26/03/2014: £1110
27/03/2014: £1329
28/03/2014: £1477
29/03/2014: £2402
30/03/2014: £ 331
31/03/2014: £1232
01/04/2014: £1721
02/04/2014: £2094
03/04/2014: £4201
04/04/2014: £5238

Aussie: Greyhound Racing: -£580.99 | Horse Racing: £478.14 Total P&L: -£102.85

UK: Cricket: -£344.06 | Greyhound Racing: £77.24 | Horse Racing: £1,406.22 Total P&L: £1,139.40

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 9 of 9 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Geel (AUS) 4th Apr : R12 460m Gr5
04-Apr-14 12:47 04-Apr-14 12:48 30.24
Greyhound Racing / Mand (AUS) 4th Apr : R4 405m Gr4
04-Apr-14 12:37 04-Apr-14 12:38 74.15
Greyhound Racing / Geel (AUS) 4th Apr : R11 400m Gr5
04-Apr-14 12:30 04-Apr-14 12:31 34.31
Greyhound Racing / Geel (AUS) 4th Apr : R10 460m Gr5
04-Apr-14 12:06 04-Apr-14 12:07 -275.00
Greyhound Racing / Mand (AUS) 4th Apr : R2 405m Juv
04-Apr-14 12:02 04-Apr-14 12:03 36.93
Greyhound Racing / Geel (AUS) 4th Apr : R5 460m Gr5
04-Apr-14 10:27 04-Apr-14 10:28 39.93
Greyhound Racing / WPrk (AUS) 4th Apr : R3 520m Heat
04-Apr-14 09:57 04-Apr-14 09:58 14.63
Greyhound Racing / WPrk (AUS) 4th Apr : R2 520m Gr4/5
04-Apr-14 09:36 04-Apr-14 09:37 -272.18
Greyhound Racing / Geel (AUS) 4th Apr : R2 596m Heat
04-Apr-14 09:27 04-Apr-14 09:28 -264.00

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 7 of 7 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Cran (AUS) 4th Apr : R6 1200m Hcap
04-Apr-14 11:15 04-Apr-14 11:18 12.62
Horse Racing / Cran (AUS) 4th Apr : R4 1500m Mdn
04-Apr-14 10:15 04-Apr-14 10:17 10.24
Horse Racing / Cran (AUS) 4th Apr : R3 1200m 3yo
04-Apr-14 09:45 04-Apr-14 10:00 628.79
Horse Racing / Darw (AUS) 4th Apr : R5 1600m Hcap
04-Apr-14 09:37 04-Apr-14 09:41 32.63
Horse Racing / Newc (AUS) 4th Apr : R3 1609m Pace M
04-Apr-14 09:30 04-Apr-14 09:33 19.41
Horse Racing / Cran (AUS) 4th Apr : R2 1300m Mdn
04-Apr-14 09:15 04-Apr-14 09:16 16.45
Horse Racing / Melt (AUS) 4th Apr : R4 2240m Trot M
04-Apr-14 09:09 04-Apr-14 09:13 -242.00

Cricket Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Cricket / India v South Africa : Match Odds
04-Apr-14 14:00 04-Apr-14 17:06 -344.06

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 5 of 5 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Romfd 4th Apr : OR 400M
04-Apr-14 20:50 04-Apr-14 20:54 -213.11
Greyhound Racing / Sund 4th Apr : A3 450m
04-Apr-14 20:26 04-Apr-14 20:30 48.45
Greyhound Racing / Romfd 4th Apr : OR 575m
04-Apr-14 20:18 04-Apr-14 20:26 44.71
Greyhound Racing / Monm 4th Apr : A6 480m
04-Apr-14 16:57 04-Apr-14 17:00 115.41
Greyhound Racing / Hove 4th Apr : A6 515m
04-Apr-14 11:28 04-Apr-14 11:30 81.78

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 19 of 19 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Aque (US) 4th Apr : R6 7f Allw
04-Apr-14 20:55 04-Apr-14 21:04 536.62
Horse Racing / Wolv 4th Apr : 6f Hcap
04-Apr-14 17:50 04-Apr-14 17:56 119.37
Horse Racing / Tampa (US) 4th Apr : R1 6f Mdn Claim
04-Apr-14 17:42 04-Apr-14 17:50 -270.00
Horse Racing / Sedge 4th Apr : 2m1f NHF
04-Apr-14 17:35 04-Apr-14 17:40 218.02
Horse Racing / Aint 4th Apr : 2m1f NHF
04-Apr-14 17:25 04-Apr-14 17:30 24.22
Horse Racing / Sedge 4th Apr : 2m4f Nov Chs
04-Apr-14 17:05 04-Apr-14 17:12 96.90
Horse Racing / Aint 4th Apr : 2m4f Hcap Hrd
04-Apr-14 16:50 04-Apr-14 16:56 48.45
Horse Racing / Sedge 4th Apr : 3m3f Hunt Chs
04-Apr-14 16:30 04-Apr-14 16:41 72.67
Horse Racing / Aint 4th Apr : 3m Grd1 Nov Hrd
04-Apr-14 16:15 04-Apr-14 16:21 21.32
Horse Racing / Leic 4th Apr : 1m2f Hcap
04-Apr-14 16:05 04-Apr-14 16:08 272.03
Horse Racing / Sedge 4th Apr : 2m1f Hcap Hrd
04-Apr-14 15:55 04-Apr-14 16:00 -185.00
Horse Racing / Aint 4th Apr : 2m4f Grd1 Chs
04-Apr-14 15:05 04-Apr-14 15:12 72.67
Horse Racing / Sedge 4th Apr : To Be Placed
04-Apr-14 14:45 04-Apr-14 14:57 209.43
Horse Racing / Aint 4th Apr : 3m1f Grd1 Nov Chs
04-Apr-14 14:30 04-Apr-14 14:36 48.45
Horse Racing / Leic 4th Apr : 5f Mdn Stks
04-Apr-14 14:20 04-Apr-14 14:27 62.82
Horse Racing / Sedge 4th Apr : 2m1f Nov Hrd
04-Apr-14 14:10 04-Apr-14 14:15 -278.93
Horse Racing / Aint 4th Apr : 2m Grd2 Nov Hrd
04-Apr-14 14:00 04-Apr-14 14:05 36.34
Horse Racing / Leic 4th Apr : 7f Hcap
04-Apr-14 13:50 04-Apr-14 13:52 58.59
Horse Racing / Penn (US) 3rd Apr : R5 6f Claim
04-Apr-14 00:49 04-Apr-14 00:54 242.25

Report undern • April 5, 2014 7:54 AM BST

Don't really have much time to do a lot of betting today .... will set up the bots (which takes a while to do) .... and see how the day pans out.

Report undern • April 5, 2014 12:40 PM BST

Back from swimming .... don't fully appreciate how tiring swimming (and paddling around) for a couple of hours can be.

Report undern • April 5, 2014 1:45 PM BST

So in a losing position in the MC footy (on under 4.5 goals) .... not planning on playing too much in the horse racing .... but just lumped a lay ir (1.5 ish) on the fav in the 1.40pm race only to win a nice amount ..... gotta a laugh sometimes.

Report undern • April 5, 2014 8:07 PM BST

Challenge Update:
Well despite a few hicks up along the way (especially in the footy => poor Cardiff City

) .... had another great day. Perhaps lumping on a bit too much occasionally (not all the time though) and must admit I am at two minds as to keep going with some lumps here and there or settle write back down to very sensible betting. One thing is for sure ... starting to be comfortable with not playing every market every chance I get ...

Starting Bank: £1000
26/03/2014: £1110
27/03/2014: £1329
28/03/2014: £1477
29/03/2014: £2402
30/03/2014: £ 331
31/03/2014: £1232
01/04/2014: £1721
02/04/2014: £2094
03/04/2014: £4201
04/04/2014: £5238
05/04/2014: £6707

Aussie: Horse Racing: £259.34 | Soccer: £154.07 Total P&L: £413.41

UK: Greyhound Racing: £89.46 | Horse Racing: £1,191.77 | Motor Sport: £408.74 | Soccer: -£633.98 Total P&L: £1,055.99

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Asct (AUS) 5th Apr : R4 1200m Hcap
05-Apr-14 07:05 05-Apr-14 08:09 182.34
Horse Racing / ASpr (AUS) 5th Apr : R4 1000m 2yo
05-Apr-14 08:55 05-Apr-14 07:56 77.00

Soccer Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Soccer / Newcastle v Melbourne Victory : Over/Under 3.5 Goals
05-Apr-14 07:30 05-Apr-14 09:21 154.07

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Crayfd 5th Apr : A5 380m
05-Apr-14 12:24 05-Apr-14 12:25 35.62
Greyhound Racing / Crayfd 5th Apr : A8 380m
05-Apr-14 11:51 05-Apr-14 11:56 53.84

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 15 of 15 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Newc 5th Apr : 7f Hcap
05-Apr-14 17:35 05-Apr-14 17:40 176.41
Horse Racing / Chep 5th Apr : 3m Hcap Chs
05-Apr-14 17:25 05-Apr-14 17:31 -150.00
Horse Racing / Ling 5th Apr : 1m2f Hcap
05-Apr-14 17:20 05-Apr-14 17:24 179.26
Horse Racing / Aint (TEN TBP) 5th Apr : 10 TBP
05-Apr-14 16:15 05-Apr-14 16:48 -55.09
Horse Racing / Newc 5th Apr : 1m4f Hcap
05-Apr-14 15:55 05-Apr-14 15:58 72.67
Horse Racing / Chep 5th Apr : 3m Hcap Chs
05-Apr-14 15:45 05-Apr-14 15:52 -26.85
Horse Racing / Aint 5th Apr : 3m1f Listed Hcap
05-Apr-14 15:25 05-Apr-14 15:32 48.45
Horse Racing / Newc 5th Apr : 1m2f Hcap
05-Apr-14 15:15 05-Apr-14 15:17 72.67
Horse Racing / Ling 5th Apr : 1m4f Hcap
05-Apr-14 15:00 05-Apr-14 15:05 -206.17
Horse Racing / Aint 5th Apr : 3m Grd1 Hrd
05-Apr-14 14:50 05-Apr-14 14:56 193.80
Horse Racing / Chep 5th Apr : 2m3f Hcap Chs
05-Apr-14 14:30 05-Apr-14 14:36 227.71
Horse Racing / Aint 5th Apr : 2m Grd 1 Nov Chs
05-Apr-14 14:05 05-Apr-14 14:09 48.45
Horse Racing / Chep 5th Apr : 2m Nov Hrd
05-Apr-14 13:55 05-Apr-14 13:59 24.22
Horse Racing / Ling 5th Apr : 7f Hcap
05-Apr-14 13:50 05-Apr-14 13:52 145.35
Horse Racing / Newc 5th Apr : 1m Mdn Stks
05-Apr-14 13:40 05-Apr-14 13:43 440.89

Motor Sport Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Motor Sport / Bahrain GP : Overall Qual. Winner
06-Apr-14 16:00 05-Apr-14 17:05 408.74

Soccer Showing 1 - 3 of 3 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Soccer / Chelsea v Stoke : Over/Under 1.5 Goals
05-Apr-14 17:30 05-Apr-14 18:49 85.56
Soccer / Cardiff v C Palace : Match Odds
05-Apr-14 15:00 05-Apr-14 16:53 -465.24
Soccer / Man City v Southampton : Over/Under 4.5 Goals
05-Apr-14 12:45 05-Apr-14 14:27 -254.30

Report undern • April 5, 2014 8:33 PM BST

It's the first race of the 2014 ITU triathlon series early morning (New Zealand) .... would love to have some betting markets up on here ..... anyone know where there is any betting markets ??

Report undern • April 5, 2014 8:41 PM BST

Well I have found some markets on PaddyPower .... if only I could lay some of them

Report undern • April 5, 2014 9:18 PM BST

Mmmm ... played a bit more and just got done in by a nose on a big lay bet ... time to let it go and watch Casualty me thinks.

Report undern • April 6, 2014 12:11 AM BST

Nothing like staying up late at night waiting for the Triathlon races to start (Women's @ 1am) .... played some more on the greyhounds and a couple of recently run USA races .... back in positive territory ... so might be the right time to grab a coffee, set up the bots for racing later today (as I think I will be sleeping in a bit) and after that watch recorded show Revolution before watching the Triathlon on BBC Red Button or BT Sports.

Report undern • April 6, 2014 2:06 AM BST

Since the last update .... the p&l looks like this ...

Greyhound Racing: -£716.81 | Horse Racing: £463.62 | Soccer: £582.66 Total P&L: £329.47

You will see when I update fully much later today ... you will see I went in too heavy on two greyhound races and came out with big losses .... played a bit since then but now that I am back in profit won't be looking to give it away .... love watching the triathlon racing

Report undern • April 6, 2014 5:59 AM BST

Gee the Women's race was exciting however this Men's triathlon race is just as good ...

Report SHAPESHIFTER • April 6, 2014 10:47 AM BST

What is your total P & L on greyhounds since you started?

Report undern • April 6, 2014 11:00 AM BST

Hey Shapeshifter ... just had two hours sleep and am soooo tired ... just traded the Women's T20 cricket game to make a nice profit (well to cover some of my ups and downs from last night ... while watching the triathlon racing) ..... will have a look in a second.

Report undern • April 6, 2014 11:06 AM BST

Hey Shapeshifter .... The following is the P&L breakdown since the challenge started till the last update I did last night ....

Aussie: Greyhound Racing: -£197.33 | Horse Racing: £582.78 | Soccer: £492.13 Total P&L: £877.58

UK: Cricket: -£854.49 | Darts: £33.91 | Greyhound Racing: £1,960.93 | Horse Racing: £4,195.70 | Motor Sport: -£66.26 | Soccer: -£254.47 | Tennis: -£186.88 Total P&L: £4,828.44

Report SHAPESHIFTER • April 6, 2014 6:00 PM BST

So I remember on your last challenge, Greyhounds in Australia were your undoing

So far, no profit or loss. So why continue? Not worth the investment.

Cricket, as well, you can't grip onto so pass on that.

Report undern • April 7, 2014 9:47 AM BST

Challenge Update:
Next time I get two hours sleep ... remind myself that I shouldn't do too much betting. Some very loose betting. Might need to stop all this "big" betting and go back to trying to win much smaller amounts otherwise I will quickly find myself heading further backwards .... oh well it was fun while it lasted.

Starting Bank: £1000
26/03/2014: £1110
27/03/2014: £1329
28/03/2014: £1477
29/03/2014: £2402
30/03/2014: £ 331
31/03/2014: £1232
01/04/2014: £1721
02/04/2014: £2094
03/04/2014: £4201
04/04/2014: £5238
05/04/2014: £6707
06/04/2014: £4457

Aussie: Greyhound Racing: £90.38 | Horse Racing: -£76.63 Total P&L: £13.75

UK: Cricket: £766.12 | Greyhound Racing: -£1,599.58 | Horse Racing: £265.28 | Motor Sport: -£261.18 | Soccer: -£1,652.10 | Tennis: £218.03 Total P&L: -£2,263.43

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 4 of 4 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / AnPk (AUS) 7th Apr : R1 515m Gr5
07-Apr-14 09:33 07-Apr-14 09:34 16.50
Greyhound Racing / Geel (AUS) 7th Apr : R8 460m Gr5
07-Apr-14 08:37 07-Apr-14 08:38 23.06
Greyhound Racing / Bath (AUS) 7th Apr : R5 307m Gr4/5
07-Apr-14 08:28 07-Apr-14 08:30 38.42
Greyhound Racing / Nowr (AUS) 7th Apr : R5 630m Gr5
07-Apr-14 07:22 07-Apr-14 07:24 12.40

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 11 of 11 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Arar (AUS) 7th Apr : R8 1608m Hcap
07-Apr-14 08:20 07-Apr-14 08:23 11.53
Horse Racing / Armi (AUS) 7th Apr : R7 1300m Hcap
07-Apr-14 08:05 07-Apr-14 08:07 45.03
Horse Racing / Armi (AUS) 7th Apr : R6 1100m Hcap
07-Apr-14 07:25 07-Apr-14 07:29 35.71
Horse Racing / Mary (AUS) 7th Apr : R6 1690m Pace M
07-Apr-14 07:13 07-Apr-14 07:16 72.07
Horse Racing / Gosf (AUS) 6th Apr : R3 1100m Mdn
06-Apr-14 05:00 06-Apr-14 05:02 58.75
Horse Racing / Sale (AUS) 6th Apr : R2 1200m Mdn
06-Apr-14 04:42 06-Apr-14 04:46 37.24
Horse Racing / SCst (AUS) 6th Apr : R2 1000m CL2
06-Apr-14 04:33 06-Apr-14 04:35 18.90
Horse Racing / Gosf (AUS) 6th Apr : R2 1100m Mdn
06-Apr-14 04:24 06-Apr-14 04:26 23.62
Horse Racing / Sale (AUS) 6th Apr : R1 1100m 2yo
06-Apr-14 04:06 06-Apr-14 04:08 51.93
Horse Racing / SCst (AUS) 6th Apr : R1 1000m Mdn
06-Apr-14 03:57 06-Apr-14 04:03 68.59
Horse Racing / Gosf (AUS) 6th Apr : R1 2600m CL2
06-Apr-14 03:48 06-Apr-14 03:54 -500.00

Cricket Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Cricket / Sri Lanka v India : Match Odds
06-Apr-14 14:00 06-Apr-14 17:26 359.14
Cricket / Australia (W) v England (W) : Match Odds
06-Apr-14 09:30 06-Apr-14 11:54 406.98

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 15 of 15 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Sittb 6th Apr : OR 480m
06-Apr-14 19:04 06-Apr-14 19:06 -250.00
Greyhound Racing / Henl 6th Apr : S1 550m
06-Apr-14 19:00 06-Apr-14 19:04 -633.00
Greyhound Racing / Henl 6th Apr : A4 460m
06-Apr-14 18:45 06-Apr-14 18:50 48.45
Greyhound Racing / Henl 6th Apr : A5 460m
06-Apr-14 18:30 06-Apr-14 18:34 28.93
Greyhound Racing / Pbarr 6th Apr : A6 480m
06-Apr-14 16:33 06-Apr-14 16:38 -120.41
Greyhound Racing / BVue 6th Apr : A8 470m
06-Apr-14 12:33 06-Apr-14 12:35 43.26
Greyhound Racing / Newc 5th Apr : A2 480m
05-Apr-14 22:18 05-Apr-14 22:20 285.54
Greyhound Racing / Newc 5th Apr : A1 480m
05-Apr-14 21:48 05-Apr-14 21:50 -186.00
Greyhound Racing / Shawf 5th Apr : OR 500m
05-Apr-14 21:40 05-Apr-14 21:45 189.67
Greyhound Racing / Shawf 5th Apr : OR 480m
05-Apr-14 21:24 05-Apr-14 21:29 -500.00
Greyhound Racing / Newc 5th Apr : A3 480m
05-Apr-14 21:15 05-Apr-14 21:17 -603.63
Greyhound Racing / Shawf 5th Apr : OR 480m
05-Apr-14 21:06 05-Apr-14 21:10 220.55
Greyhound Racing / Newc 5th Apr : P1 480m
05-Apr-14 20:58 05-Apr-14 21:01 53.13
Greyhound Racing / Shawf 5th Apr : OR 480m
05-Apr-14 20:50 05-Apr-14 20:56 -202.49
Greyhound Racing / Shawf 5th Apr : A2 480m
05-Apr-14 20:18 05-Apr-14 20:22 26.42

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 14 of 14 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Keenl (US) 6th Apr : R3 6f Claim
06-Apr-14 19:07 06-Apr-14 19:16 132.14
Horse Racing / Cork 6th Apr : 7f Hcap
06-Apr-14 15:30 06-Apr-14 15:34 47.53
Horse Racing / Fairy 6th Apr : 2m4f Nov Hrd
06-Apr-14 15:15 06-Apr-14 15:23 16.01
Horse Racing / Cork 6th Apr : 6f Listed
06-Apr-14 14:55 06-Apr-14 15:00 -236.54
Horse Racing / FfosL 6th Apr : 3m Sell Hrd
06-Apr-14 14:30 06-Apr-14 14:38 29.07
Horse Racing / Cork 6th Apr : 5f Hcap
06-Apr-14 14:25 06-Apr-14 14:28 -10.92
Horse Racing / MrktR 6th Apr : 2m1f Nov Hrd
06-Apr-14 14:15 06-Apr-14 14:22 67.83
Horse Racing / Fairy 6th Apr : 2m1f Grd2 Chs
06-Apr-14 14:10 06-Apr-14 14:15 -255.00
Horse Racing / Cork 6th Apr : 5f Mdn
06-Apr-14 13:55 06-Apr-14 14:00 -36.91
Horse Racing / MrktR 6th Apr : 2m1f Hcap Hrd
06-Apr-14 13:45 06-Apr-14 13:51 48.45
Horse Racing / Penn (US) 5th Apr : R7 6f Claim
06-Apr-14 01:43 06-Apr-14 01:56 114.15
Horse Racing / CharlT (US) 5th Apr : R3 7f Claim
06-Apr-14 00:59 06-Apr-14 01:05 69.66
Horse Racing / SunP (US) 5th Apr : R10 6f Stks
05-Apr-14 23:44 06-Apr-14 00:09 211.98
Horse Racing / Penn (US) 5th Apr : R2 6f Claim
05-Apr-14 23:27 05-Apr-14 23:34 67.83

Motor Sport Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Motor Sport / Bahrain GP : Winner
06-Apr-14 16:00 06-Apr-14 17:52 -261.18

Soccer Showing 1 - 6 of 6 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Soccer / Parma v Napoli : Match Odds
06-Apr-14 19:45 06-Apr-14 21:38 -880.95
Soccer / West Ham v Liverpool : Match Odds
06-Apr-14 16:00 06-Apr-14 17:53 55.14
Soccer / Everton v Arsenal : Over/Under 3.5 Goals
06-Apr-14 13:30 06-Apr-14 15:23 -763.46
Soccer / Everton v Arsenal : Match Odds
06-Apr-14 13:30 06-Apr-14 15:23 -310.00
Soccer / Kansas City v Real Salt Lake : Over/Under 0.5 Goals
06-Apr-14 01:30 06-Apr-14 03:30 -249.93
Soccer / Inter v Bologna : Over/Under 4.5 Goals
05-Apr-14 19:45 05-Apr-14 21:40 497.10

Tennis Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Tennis / 4. Fognini v Murray : Match Odds
06-Apr-14 10:30 06-Apr-14 13:05 218.03

Report SHAPESHIFTER • April 7, 2014 1:02 PM BST

Mate, see all your threads. Turn off the greyhounds. It is poison.

Even if you spend more time researching sports, do it. But get rid of the dogs.

Report undern • April 7, 2014 1:51 PM BST

... but I love the Dogs

...

Report SabineIsGOAT • April 7, 2014 3:17 PM BST

you can watch something that you like without betting on it

Report undern • April 7, 2014 3:52 PM BST

Been doing quite nicely today ... around £300 up ... and then I did a fatal mistake which I only saw inrunning on a horse race ... yep you guessed it left it thinking it would green up ir only but it didn't and me losing 10x what I thought I had bet ....for **** sake

Report undern • April 7, 2014 4:50 PM BST

Nothing like reacting from a mistake and pushing too hard and simply end up going backwards at a big rate .... what a ****g stupid day.

Report undern • April 7, 2014 7:39 PM BST

Challenge Update:
A tough day ... need to go back to being sensible and a lot more focused on my betting and reasons for placing a bet ...

Starting Bank: £1000
26/03/2014: £1110
27/03/2014: £1329
28/03/2014: £1477
29/03/2014: £2402
30/03/2014: £ 331
31/03/2014: £1232
01/04/2014: £1721
02/04/2014: £2094
03/04/2014: £4201
04/04/2014: £5238
05/04/2014: £6707
06/04/2014: £4457
07/04/2014: £3551

Aussie: Greyhound Racing: £129.72 Total P&L: £129.72

UK: Greyhound Racing: £331.34 | Horse Racing: -£1,539.70 | Soccer: £172.82 Total P&L: -£1,035.54

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 3 of 3 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Shep (AUS) 7th Apr : R1 390m Gr5
07-Apr-14 10:11 07-Apr-14 10:12 33.83
Greyhound Racing / Bath (AUS) 7th Apr : R10 307m Gr5
07-Apr-14 10:05 07-Apr-14 10:07 75.77
Greyhound Racing / APrk (AUS) 7th Apr : R1 520m Heat
07-Apr-14 09:43 07-Apr-14 09:45 20.12

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 9 of 9 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Nott 7th Apr : A2 500m
07-Apr-14 19:16 07-Apr-14 19:18 46.93
Greyhound Racing / Romfd 7th Apr : A5 400m
07-Apr-14 19:11 07-Apr-14 19:13 34.64
Greyhound Racing / Yarm 7th Apr : A4 462m
07-Apr-14 19:06 07-Apr-14 19:09 43.61
Greyhound Racing / Swin 7th Apr : A3 480m
07-Apr-14 18:04 07-Apr-14 18:08 202.31
Greyhound Racing / Swin 7th Apr : A4 480m
07-Apr-14 15:38 07-Apr-14 15:40 66.04
Greyhound Racing / Swin 7th Apr : A5 480m
07-Apr-14 14:18 07-Apr-14 14:20 60.55
Greyhound Racing / Monm 7th Apr : A7 480m
07-Apr-14 14:08 07-Apr-14 14:11 -244.93
Greyhound Racing / HGrn 7th Apr : A6 480m
07-Apr-14 13:04 07-Apr-14 13:07 52.72
Greyhound Racing / Sheff 7th Apr : A3 500m
07-Apr-14 11:11 07-Apr-14 11:15 69.47

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 19 of 19 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / WillRD (US) 7th Apr : R2 6f Mdn Clm
07-Apr-14 18:58 07-Apr-14 19:12 12.93
Horse Racing / Kelso 7th Apr : 2m2f Hcap Hrd
07-Apr-14 17:30 07-Apr-14 17:35 218.29
Horse Racing / Redc 7th Apr : 1m2f Hcap
07-Apr-14 17:20 07-Apr-14 17:24 95.32
Horse Racing / Wind 7th Apr : 1m3f Hcap
07-Apr-14 17:10 07-Apr-14 17:15 -531.05
Horse Racing / Kelso 7th Apr : 2m5f Hcap Chs
07-Apr-14 17:00 07-Apr-14 17:07 -118.87
Horse Racing / Redc 7th Apr : 6f Mdn Stks
07-Apr-14 16:50 07-Apr-14 16:54 97.00
Horse Racing / Wind 7th Apr : 1m2f Hcap
07-Apr-14 16:40 07-Apr-14 16:49 -367.50
Horse Racing / Kelso 7th Apr : 2m7f Hcap Chs
07-Apr-14 16:30 07-Apr-14 16:36 48.50
Horse Racing / Wind 7th Apr : 1m2f Mdn Stks
07-Apr-14 16:10 07-Apr-14 16:18 -671.79
Horse Racing / Kelso 7th Apr : 3m2f Mdn Chs
07-Apr-14 16:00 07-Apr-14 16:09 48.50
Horse Racing / Redc 7th Apr : 1m Hcap
07-Apr-14 15:50 07-Apr-14 15:53 121.67
Horse Racing / Wind 7th Apr : 1m Hcap
07-Apr-14 15:40 07-Apr-14 15:50 58.46
Horse Racing / Kelso 7th Apr : 2m6f Hcap Hrd
07-Apr-14 15:30 07-Apr-14 15:37 -736.35
Horse Racing / Wind 7th Apr : 1m Hcap
07-Apr-14 15:10 07-Apr-14 15:13 48.50
Horse Racing / Kelso 7th Apr : 2m1f Hcap Chs
07-Apr-14 15:00 07-Apr-14 15:08 55.32
Horse Racing / Wind 7th Apr : 6f Hcap
07-Apr-14 14:40 07-Apr-14 14:43 35.68
Horse Racing / Kelso 7th Apr : 2m2f Nov Hrd
07-Apr-14 14:30 07-Apr-14 14:36 9.70
Horse Racing / Redc 7th Apr : 5f Mdn Stks
07-Apr-14 14:20 07-Apr-14 14:24 12.46
Horse Racing / Kelso 7th Apr : 2m2f Nov Hrd
07-Apr-14 14:00 07-Apr-14 14:06 23.53

Soccer Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Soccer / England U19 (W) v Serbia (W) U19 : Over/Under 0.5 Goals
07-Apr-14 09:00 07-Apr-14 10:26 172.82

Report SHAPESHIFTER • April 7, 2014 9:19 PM BST

Stop loss of 5% on horses would have saved you £900.

Report SHAPESHIFTER • April 7, 2014 9:20 PM BST

Greyhounds wouldn't have hit the stop loss so you would have kept going after the loss of 244 into profit.

Report SabineIsGOAT • April 7, 2014 9:55 PM BST

halved the bank in 2 days, it's just an endless circle

Report SHAPESHIFTER • April 8, 2014 8:51 AM BST

Apr 7, 2014 -- 3:55PM, SabineIsGOAT wrote:

halved the bank in 2 days, it's just an endless circle

SavineIsGOAT is saying something that should be obvious if you look at your old threads.

There are factors that causing you to swim in circles.

The dogs: I can only go by what I see and that is you have never made money on dogs. It gives you a 'fix' of a good day then goes nasty on you. "But I love the dogs". Well, I love NHL hockey but rarely bet on a sport that involves a 3 inch rubber disc that is played on ice by men on skates.

No stop loss: You are aloud to have a losing day. But 30%????? or more????? You need to value your gains. You need to say 'well done' and then focus on keeping that money.

Now, look at the positives:

After 13 days, you have averaged a gain of 11% a day.

You won't be able to sustain that. So don't try.

Try the live stop loss. From bet to bet, whether it be five in on the day or fifteen, if the live stop loss (start + gains) times 5%) goes below 5%, walk away from THAT sport. Clear your head then take on the next (i.e. horses in the afternoon, football in the evening).

Try it for ten days - No dogs and stop loss. Do the horses, do the football, enjoy life in between.

If you can't walk away with a loss on the day, you certainly won't be able to walk away with a profit.

Report undern • April 8, 2014 11:42 AM BST

Thanks for the comments and advice. I'm afraid right or wrong I like to do these challenges in my own way .... however I do hope to alter my mind-set to ensure I at least give this challenge a good shake. I think what you mention in the last line bears true ....

I have changed recently what I look at for the Aussie greyhound racing .... and this effectively has nearly wiped out this challenge (certainly this morning has been horrendous) ..... one thing I do do wrong (one of many) is using certain factors to filter out (mainly) lay selections so what I do occasionally is select other lays to bet on when I should be leaving them alone ....

Another car-wreck start to the day ..... might have to go back to my original aim which was to win £100 per day ....

Report SHAPESHIFTER • April 8, 2014 12:23 PM BST

"No bet" is often the best bet in a race.

i.e. today:
330 Honoured I have ranked by 4 lengths over the fave and clear of the 2F. At an EW price *BUT* two years since it has run 2 miles. So no bet because of the question mark and not switching to the fave who I think will get beaten.

-----

Fair enough on wanting to do it your own way. But, as mentioned, your bot and dogs are not working for you. They are working against you, essentially causing you to swim against the current.

Your sub-challenge is to try to make your bots work on greyhounds rather than focusing on where you are doing well.

Whether it be this challenge or any aspect of life, time to refocus your energy.

Best of luck.

Report DFCIRONMAN • April 8, 2014 1:37 PM BST

undern- Your "way" will not "work".

You are still doing so many things "wrong" that how can you expect your way to "work"?

It was clear to me when I posted -

DFCIRONMAN 27 Mar 14 23:37
Allowance Optional Claiming .......A race type with same age horses on DIRT in USA .....and you risk major chunk of bank on it......Does not auger well UD.

and from posts on the thread to date, as well as all the other threads, you appear not to have learned much from your ups and downs.

As soon as your bank fluctuates down to just over £300 from larger amount, or jumps with huge increases, it is again clear that you are still not operating with enough control.

I think you do have ability in certain sports areas ....but you cannot be spending enough time analysing an event, especially HORSE RACING where there are so many factors relevant from race to race and you must know what races you have an edge in.

I just get the feeling you take on a favourite without much analysis on that race, and your STAKING tends to increase after a HIT.

Football betting appears you increase STAKING hugely after a HIT.......and FOOTBALL is a more volatile area of betting where many believe they have an edge....but in reality they don't. It is a dangerous area to bet the way you do after a HIT...............especially after a long day spent on betting.

I used to take on EVERY RACE type in BRITAIN with horse racing.......to learn from so doing......I believe , based on thorough analysis of ratings and results, that I would find betting strategies that "work" . It has taken me years to do this and there is no doubt that I have proved my "system" of ratings combined with various strategies "worked" in past ......and should still "work". Unfortunately personal circumstances, bereavement, ill health and current circumstances( carer), have stopped me proceeding the way I need to proceed...........Energy levels not enough to operate to level I need to operate to.

Horse racing is a sport where "skill"/ "edges" do exist...............greyhound racing ( far fewer runners) is more of a lottery....but never had ANY interest in such sport and no little about it.

Do you know where you truly have "edges" that you know how to exploit with betting strategies? The number of sports areas you are taking on indicates you are operating like an addict...........triathlon etc You really need to concentrate on your definite edges and only bet when you have VALUE.

CHASING IS THERE EVERY DAY ALMOST... so you will have ups and downs with such bets......and until you start exercising proper control... cut down on events taken on ...and structure you betting day.......there is no way you will avoid losing your bank.

Your way just will not "work" undern..................Hoping you stop and rethink what you are doing....as so many things done badly for you to succeed.

GL

Report undern • April 8, 2014 2:58 PM BST

Well I have certainly done enough damage this morning to effectively start again

... while I had fun this morning yep agree with all that with the little things I do do well I certainly stuff up in many ways .....

While I "see" what I need to do .... controlled staking, stop/loss limits, keep to what I think are my "edges" .... avoid too much betting, certain markets, chasing etc ... accept losses and appreciate that it is a long term challenge.

I need to stop having "fun" taking on some low odds favs (it is not part of my perceived edges just like doing it

) and one big thing is if I do have a losing run stop thinking about how big the challenge bank was a few days back etc .... and focus on the day at hand.

I actually "like" betting to win £12.50 ... don't ask me why .... and if you check out all my challenge threads you will see lots of these in there. These smaller bets can quickly add up so I do fail to understand why I can't keep to these. I guess the "rush" of winning/losing and the unknown is why I go a bit wild.

DFC - I think my greyhound bot is worth sticking with - it is simply my added betting which is wrecking it all.

Quick stat - the greyhound bot since the start of this challenge has the following:

The bet is £125 lay bet.
Selections: 28
Avg. Odds: 4.8
Profit: £462
Profit per selection: £16.30

.... I hope I am able to stick around for another day with this challenge.

Report undern • April 8, 2014 3:05 PM BST

DFC/Shapeshifter - sorry for those greyhound bot stats the first say 12 bets were outlays of £100 not £125 ... that is playing morning and arvo only.

Report SHAPESHIFTER • April 8, 2014 5:49 PM BST

2010/2011 tax year, one of my businesses beat all trends in the sector.
2011/2012, a lot investment and time put in to ramp it up.
The books showed little profit for the investment of both money and time.

I shut it down in November 2012 after eight years.

If I had shut it down eight months earlier, I would have saved thousands.

Rereading all my notes, all the numbers, all the clues were there. I was just too focused on keeping the team together, keeping relationships going with clients.

Sometimes simply reading what you type gives the clues. But what you do with the clues is another thing.

Report undern • April 9, 2014 8:16 AM BST

Challenge Update:
The figures say it all ... nothing like a "rocky road" challenge. Things are going to change as while I enjoy betting on anything and everything clearly there is too many ups and downs .... which ultimately means a final down and silence until I start another challenge

Starting Bank: £1000
26/03/2014: £1110
27/03/2014: £1329
28/03/2014: £1477
29/03/2014: £2402
30/03/2014: £ 331
31/03/2014: £1232
01/04/2014: £1721
02/04/2014: £2094
03/04/2014: £4201
04/04/2014: £5238
05/04/2014: £6707
06/04/2014: £4457
07/04/2014: £3551
08/04/2014: £1401

Aussie: Greyhound Racing: £661.98 | Horse Racing: -£1,320.20 Total P&L: -£658.22

UK: Greyhound Racing: -£1,687.19 | Horse Racing: -£304.56 | Soccer: £499.53 Total P&L: -£1,492.22

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 20 of 33 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Wgul (AUS) 8th Apr : R11 400m Gr5
08-Apr-14 13:09 08-Apr-14 13:10 -258.19
Greyhound Racing / Town (AUS) 8th Apr : R9 380m Gr5
08-Apr-14 12:55 08-Apr-14 12:56 47.09
Greyhound Racing / Lism (AUS) 8th Apr : R10 420m Gr5
08-Apr-14 12:45 08-Apr-14 12:46 35.46
Greyhound Racing / Gosf (AUS) 8th Apr : R9 400m Heat
08-Apr-14 12:38 08-Apr-14 12:39 80.14
Greyhound Racing / Town (AUS) 8th Apr : R8 498m Gr5
08-Apr-14 12:35 08-Apr-14 12:36 273.51
Greyhound Racing / Wgul (AUS) 8th Apr : R9 400m FFA
08-Apr-14 12:28 08-Apr-14 12:29 52.25
Greyhound Racing / Town (AUS) 8th Apr : R7 380m Final
08-Apr-14 12:15 08-Apr-14 12:16 266.94
Greyhound Racing / Mand (AUS) 8th Apr : R4 405m Mdn
08-Apr-14 12:12 08-Apr-14 12:13 -120.00
Greyhound Racing / Lism (AUS) 8th Apr : R7 520m Gr5
08-Apr-14 11:45 08-Apr-14 11:47 -179.00
Greyhound Racing / Gosf (AUS) 8th Apr : R6 400m Gr4/5
08-Apr-14 11:40 08-Apr-14 11:41 529.02
Greyhound Racing / Lism (AUS) 8th Apr : R6 420m FFA
08-Apr-14 11:25 08-Apr-14 11:26 527.59
Greyhound Racing / Gosf (AUS) 8th Apr : R5 515m Gr5
08-Apr-14 11:18 08-Apr-14 11:19 38.01
Greyhound Racing / Lism (AUS) 8th Apr : R5 635m FFA
08-Apr-14 11:05 08-Apr-14 11:06 -500.00
Greyhound Racing / Town (AUS) 8th Apr : R3 380m Gr4
08-Apr-14 10:55 08-Apr-14 10:57 225.49
Greyhound Racing / Lism (AUS) 8th Apr : R4 520m Mdn
08-Apr-14 10:45 08-Apr-14 10:46 -360.00
Greyhound Racing / Gosf (AUS) 8th Apr : R3 515m Mdn
08-Apr-14 10:40 08-Apr-14 10:41 276.93
Greyhound Racing / Town (AUS) 8th Apr : R2 380m Nvce
08-Apr-14 10:35 08-Apr-14 10:36 -109.18
Greyhound Racing / Wgul (AUS) 8th Apr : R3 460m Gr5
08-Apr-14 10:28 08-Apr-14 10:29 -232.00
Greyhound Racing / Lism (AUS) 8th Apr : R3 420m Gr5
08-Apr-14 10:25 08-Apr-14 10:26 55.24
Greyhound Racing / Gosf (AUS) 8th Apr : R2 400m Mdn
08-Apr-14 10:18 08-Apr-14 10:19 38.44

Greyhound Racing Showing 21 - 33 of 33 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Town (AUS) 8th Apr : R1 380m Mdn
08-Apr-14 10:15 08-Apr-14 10:16 -348.00
Greyhound Racing / Wgul (AUS) 8th Apr : R2 400m Mdn
08-Apr-14 10:10 08-Apr-14 10:11 395.49
Greyhound Racing / Lism (AUS) 8th Apr : R2 420m Gr5
08-Apr-14 10:05 08-Apr-14 10:07 47.09
Greyhound Racing / Gosf (AUS) 8th Apr : R1 600m Gr4/5
08-Apr-14 09:57 08-Apr-14 09:58 86.29
Greyhound Racing / Wgul (AUS) 8th Apr : R1 400m Mdn
08-Apr-14 09:46 08-Apr-14 09:54 41.38
Greyhound Racing / Ipsw (AUS) 8th Apr : R10 431m Gr5
08-Apr-14 09:50 08-Apr-14 09:53 -100.00
Greyhound Racing / Lism (AUS) 8th Apr : R1 420m Mdn
08-Apr-14 09:42 08-Apr-14 09:43 192.25
Greyhound Racing / Hshm (AUS) 8th Apr : R11 410m Gr5
08-Apr-14 09:36 08-Apr-14 09:37 -400.00
Greyhound Racing / Ipsw (AUS) 8th Apr : R9 431m Gr5
08-Apr-14 09:25 08-Apr-14 09:27 35.40
Greyhound Racing / Hshm (AUS) 8th Apr : R7 480m Gr5
08-Apr-14 08:24 08-Apr-14 08:25 24.02
Greyhound Racing / Ipsw (AUS) 8th Apr : R5 431m Gr4/5
08-Apr-14 08:17 08-Apr-14 08:18 19.48
Greyhound Racing / Hshm (AUS) 8th Apr : To Be Placed
08-Apr-14 08:09 08-Apr-14 08:11 -56.02
Greyhound Racing / Hshm (AUS) 8th Apr : R5 480m Gr5
08-Apr-14 07:49 08-Apr-14 07:53 36.86

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 14 of 14 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / GlPk (AUS) 8th Apr : R5 2130m Pace M
08-Apr-14 12:20 08-Apr-14 12:25 66.19
Horse Racing / Mdra (AUS) 8th Apr : R7 2600m Pace M
08-Apr-14 12:00 08-Apr-14 12:07 -250.00
Horse Racing / GlPk (AUS) 8th Apr : R4 2130m Pace M
08-Apr-14 11:50 08-Apr-14 11:54 21.14
Horse Racing / GlPk (AUS) 8th Apr : R3 2130m Trot M
08-Apr-14 11:20 08-Apr-14 11:24 -313.63
Horse Racing / Mdra (AUS) 8th Apr : R5 2600m Pace M
08-Apr-14 11:00 08-Apr-14 11:07 24.02
Horse Racing / GlPk (AUS) 8th Apr : R2 2130m Pace M
08-Apr-14 10:50 08-Apr-14 10:54 -564.57
Horse Racing / Mdra (AUS) 8th Apr : R4 2190m Pace M
08-Apr-14 10:30 08-Apr-14 10:34 -443.34
Horse Racing / GlPk (AUS) 8th Apr : R1 1730m Pace M
08-Apr-14 10:20 08-Apr-14 10:24 38.44
Horse Racing / Mack (AUS) 8th Apr : R7 1200m Hcap
08-Apr-14 08:28 08-Apr-14 08:31 16.82
Horse Racing / APrk (AUS) 8th Apr : R6 1660m Pace M
08-Apr-14 08:12 08-Apr-14 08:16 26.91
Horse Racing / Kilm (AUS) 8th Apr : R8 1607m Hcap
08-Apr-14 08:05 08-Apr-14 08:08 26.43
Horse Racing / Penr (AUS) 8th Apr : R6 1720m Pace M
08-Apr-14 08:00 08-Apr-14 08:03 13.34
Horse Racing / Graf (AUS) 8th Apr : R9 1115m Hcap
08-Apr-14 07:45 08-Apr-14 07:56 8.39
Horse Racing / Mack (AUS) 8th Apr : R6 1050m CL2
08-Apr-14 07:53 08-Apr-14 07:54 9.66

Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 20 of 20 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Newc 8th Apr : HC 480m
08-Apr-14 19:16 08-Apr-14 19:18 -373.00
Greyhound Racing / Sheff 8th Apr : OR 500m
08-Apr-14 19:11 08-Apr-14 19:13 63.90
Greyhound Racing / Kinsl 8th Apr : A5 462m
08-Apr-14 19:06 08-Apr-14 19:08 59.64
Greyhound Racing / Sheff 8th Apr : A5 500m
08-Apr-14 18:56 08-Apr-14 18:59 -245.23
Greyhound Racing / Newc 8th Apr : HC 480m
08-Apr-14 18:44 08-Apr-14 18:47 60.83
Greyhound Racing / Sund 8th Apr : A7 450m
08-Apr-14 17:33 08-Apr-14 17:35 108.06
Greyhound Racing / Crayfd 8th Apr : S4 540m
08-Apr-14 16:47 08-Apr-14 16:51 42.94
Greyhound Racing / PBarr 8th Apr : A8 480m
08-Apr-14 13:44 08-Apr-14 13:45 95.33
Greyhound Racing / Nott 8th Apr : A4 500m
08-Apr-14 13:33 08-Apr-14 13:35 76.26
Greyhound Racing / PBarr 8th Apr : A7 480m
08-Apr-14 13:27 08-Apr-14 13:29 60.17
Greyhound Racing / Nott 8th Apr : A3 500m
08-Apr-14 13:19 08-Apr-14 13:21 -542.00
Greyhound Racing / Nott 8th Apr : A4 500m
08-Apr-14 13:04 08-Apr-14 13:06 -299.00
Greyhound Racing / PBarr 8th Apr : A4 480m
08-Apr-14 12:58 08-Apr-14 13:00 51.96
Greyhound Racing / Nott 8th Apr : A3 500m
08-Apr-14 12:47 08-Apr-14 12:49 -275.00
Greyhound Racing / PBarr 8th Apr : A5 480m
08-Apr-14 12:42 08-Apr-14 12:44 85.84
Greyhound Racing / Nott 8th Apr : A5 500m
08-Apr-14 12:32 08-Apr-14 12:35 -386.00
Greyhound Racing / Nott 8th Apr : A5 500m
08-Apr-14 11:34 08-Apr-14 11:39 -188.00
Greyhound Racing / PBarr 8th Apr : HC 480m
08-Apr-14 11:28 08-Apr-14 11:31 95.54
Greyhound Racing / PBarr 8th Apr : HC 480m
08-Apr-14 11:11 08-Apr-14 11:14 91.14
Greyhound Racing / Nott 7th Apr : OR 305m
07-Apr-14 20:19 07-Apr-14 20:21 -270.57

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 20 of 27 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / TPara (US) 8th Apr : R6 1m Claim
08-Apr-14 23:25 08-Apr-14 23:35 -329.00
Horse Racing / TPara (US) 8th Apr : R5 7f Claim
08-Apr-14 22:57 08-Apr-14 23:09 27.80
Horse Racing / SunP (US) 8th Apr : R6 6f Mdn
08-Apr-14 22:00 08-Apr-14 22:25 11.64
Horse Racing / SunP (US) 8th Apr : R5 1m Claim
08-Apr-14 21:35 08-Apr-14 21:52 29.46
Horse Racing / Parx (US) 8th Apr : R5 6f Allw
08-Apr-14 19:13 08-Apr-14 19:23 -423.00
Horse Racing / WillRD (US) 8th Apr : R2 6f Claim
08-Apr-14 18:58 08-Apr-14 19:07 -250.00
Horse Racing / Parx (US) 8th Apr : R2 6f Clm
08-Apr-14 17:52 08-Apr-14 17:59 97.84
Horse Racing / Carl 8th Apr : 2m1f NHF
08-Apr-14 17:25 08-Apr-14 17:31 -255.00
Horse Racing / Ponte 8th Apr : 1m2f Hcap
08-Apr-14 17:15 08-Apr-14 17:19 133.37
Horse Racing / Sthl 8th Apr : 6f Hcap
08-Apr-14 17:05 08-Apr-14 17:10 38.61
Horse Racing / Carl 8th Apr : 2m4f Hcap Chs
08-Apr-14 16:55 08-Apr-14 17:01 18.08
Horse Racing / Ponte 8th Apr : 6f Mdn Stks
08-Apr-14 16:45 08-Apr-14 16:49 -149.28
Horse Racing / Sthl 8th Apr : 6f Claim Stks
08-Apr-14 16:35 08-Apr-14 16:49 -139.09
Horse Racing / Carl 8th Apr : 2m3f Hcap Hrd
08-Apr-14 16:25 08-Apr-14 16:31 121.25
Horse Racing / Ponte 8th Apr : 1m2f Hcap
08-Apr-14 16:15 08-Apr-14 16:24 43.65
Horse Racing / Ponte 8th Apr : 6f Hcap
08-Apr-14 15:10 08-Apr-14 15:14 73.59
Horse Racing / Sthl 8th Apr : 7f Hcap
08-Apr-14 15:00 08-Apr-14 15:04 9.02
Horse Racing / Carl 8th Apr : 2m1f Nov Hcap Hrd
08-Apr-14 14:50 08-Apr-14 14:56 16.97
Horse Racing / Ponte 8th Apr : 1m2f Mdn Stks
08-Apr-14 14:40 08-Apr-14 14:46 38.80
Horse Racing / Sthl 8th Apr : 7f Mdn Stks
08-Apr-14 14:30 08-Apr-14 14:33 12.12

Horse Racing Showing 21 - 27 of 27 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Carl 8th Apr : 2m Nov Chs
08-Apr-14 14:20 08-Apr-14 14:24 436.50
Horse Racing / Ponte 8th Apr : 1m Hcap
08-Apr-14 14:10 08-Apr-14 14:15 20.16
Horse Racing / Sthl 8th Apr : 5f Mdn Stks
08-Apr-14 14:00 08-Apr-14 14:03 70.02
Horse Racing / Saint (FRA) 8th Apr : 1600m Grp3
08-Apr-14 13:50 08-Apr-14 13:54 14.55
Horse Racing / Clair (RSA) 8th Apr : R2 1000m Plt
08-Apr-14 12:30 08-Apr-14 12:43 -200.00
Horse Racing / Clair (RSA) 8th Apr : R1 1000m Plt
08-Apr-14 11:55 08-Apr-14 12:08 199.96
Horse Racing / WillRD (US) 7th Apr : R4 6f Clm
07-Apr-14 19:54 07-Apr-14 20:09 27.42

Soccer Showing 1 - 6 of 6 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Soccer / Chelsea v Paris St-G : Over/Under 3.5 Goals
08-Apr-14 19:45 08-Apr-14 21:38 -77.50
Soccer / Chelsea v Paris St-G : Match Odds
08-Apr-14 19:45 08-Apr-14 21:37 0.00
Soccer / Chelsea v Paris St-G : Over/Under 1.5 Goals
08-Apr-14 19:45 08-Apr-14 21:31 60.14
Soccer / Tottenham v Sunderland : Match Odds
07-Apr-14 20:00 07-Apr-14 21:53 12.01
Soccer / Tottenham v Sunderland : Over/Under 2.5 Goals
07-Apr-14 20:00 07-Apr-14 21:16 412.25
Soccer / Juventus v Livorno : Over/Under 2.5 Goals
07-Apr-14 18:00 07-Apr-14 19:52 92.63

Report undern • April 9, 2014 11:32 AM BST

I have lots of notes on spreadsheets (which I return to occasionally and re-write etc) which I use to establish the bots and pointers for some of the markets I bet on ..... well I mean the bets I sensibly place .....

Anyway .... so looking to start off with a controlled frame of mind. Played the Aussie markets this morning and have been doing quite well. I then switch over to the UK greyhound markets (and while setting up the bot) I played one greyhound race and lost and then turn back to Aussie race to win a bit back .... turned to next UK greyhound race and layed todays profit (around £150 at that stage) on a fav (which I thought would get beat) and duely lost the bet ....

Disgusted with myself for letting go of the £230 or profit I had built up from the Aussie racing ... I turned and layed a big Aussie greyhound fav (around 1.55) for £250 .... so will either win a lot or be down £250 for the day ....

.... yep it ended up losing so I won a lot ..... yep another merry go-round morning which I need to stop doing.

Report undern • April 9, 2014 12:37 PM BST

For **** sake ... the bot has layed 3 winners in a row (and yes I did put more on them as well) ..... the day after I mention how well the greyhound bot is going it turns around and bites on the back-side ..... must admit I am just about sick of betting full stop .....

Report DFCIRONMAN • April 9, 2014 1:18 PM BST

SHAPESHIFTER'S point re stopping dog betting seems sensible to me.

Small number of dogs in a race, but a less reliable sport IMO to bet on makes it a lottery.

As you will get returns more frequently, due to small number of runners in race, you will get a "high" often from wins. So you "feel" you are good at betting on this sport due to getting returns more frequently. Whether you have an "edge" or "edges" on sport will be down to the profit made.....and from SHAPESHIFTER'S observations it just is not worth doing.

As the dogs start early am UK time, if you take a big HIT early....then your CHASE mentality is more likely to kick in. It was the impression I got from just looking at your results now and then.

The expression....you are "going to the dogs"...........probably reflects how you are betting! Not trying to be mean.....just trying to be factual re how you have been betting on the challenges.
You took 5 HITS yesterday from first 9 races on dogs UK.....and the amounts lost were generally increasing. How can taking such HITS help your mentality , [b]before UK racing starts,when coming down to betting on HORSERACING?[/b]

Thorough rethink needed undern......I agree with S that dogs should be binned!( Of course you will get days where the HITS don't come so frequently......but that is more down to LUCK than any edge you believe you have with dogs IMO. The nature of dog races ( small fields) will appeal more to a "compulsive gambler" than a professional gambler .

I suspect the USA HORSE RACING fits close to DOG RACING re being more likely to appeal to "compulsive gamblers" due to frequency of races and many small field races......and you can see how you are getting numerous HITs when CHASE mentality kicks in.

Please stop and rethink what you are doing wrongly.

GL on stopping. May take 2/3 years analysing your bets before you know what really works for you and what does not!

Report undern • April 9, 2014 2:06 PM BST

Well I think I have just wrecked this challenge ... so all the good points raised by yourselves will be while appreciated .... won't be adhered to for this challenge ....

Report U.A. • April 9, 2014 8:14 PM BST

I posted this at the end of your last challenge.

"It was over on the 23rd when you lost £1300. Your mind completely went and you became a chaseaholic. Ironically if you had taken a step back and said hey look i've made 50% of my bank in 2 weeks you should have been pretty pleased with yourself, but you concentrated on what you had lost rather than the bigger overall picture.

All of your challenges seem to go the same way, you have a day where you have a big loss and then a few days later you've blown it all and challenge over. If you bet such volumes that you can make 50%+ of your bank in one day you have to be able to accept that you will have days where you can blow 50%+ of your bank. It's not bad discipline or bad betting is just chance. Until you can accept those losses and bet the next day exactly the same whether you've had a 50% loss or a 10% gain then it is less than likely that you will succeed."

Looks like exactly the same has happened again here. Ask yourself "would I have bet in exactly the same way from the 8th onwards if I had just made £250 each day from the 1st to the 7th April".

Report RioGrande • April 9, 2014 10:24 PM BST

so you sunning it up on the beach now or what??

Report RioGrande • April 9, 2014 10:24 PM BST

£100 a day is very good wage by the way. cant u win that a day or somthing

Report SHAPESHIFTER • April 10, 2014 10:21 AM BST

Apr 9, 2014 -- 4:24PM, RioGrande wrote:

£100 a day is very good wage by the way. cant u win that a day or somthing

It is, especially if you can do it in thre to four hours.

Not many 'small businesses' can start with a £1,000 and generate that sort of income after two to three weeks.

But no one seems to grasp that.

Undern even mentions that £12.50 gains can add up. You're right. 8 plays the entire day scores the 100.

But it is having the discipline of finding the 'right 8 plays' or having the awareness to ramp down until the right play comes.

Whether posted on here or on their own, people set out with 'goals' for their challenges. But no one follows any guidelines (perhaps myself included). And no one learns on the short term.

More importantly, money aside, one has to value their time which I personally believe is a valuable commodity, one that goes beyond wage and earnings.

One also has to learn that the strategies and approaches in business are different from when it goes from the opening with 1,000 to 5,000.

I also wonder if part of the problem is when one makes quick gains. And because the balance was larger, one does not see the problems (I went through this with my business). In this case, I sincerely believe the dogs not only ate the gains but distracted the focus on where abilities could have lead to a steady income stream.

Report undern • April 12, 2014 11:44 AM BST

Must admit I am still bit disappointed in myself for letting this one (like other challenges) get out of hand ...... especially when I do focus I could make £100 or so per day not easily but using a controlled manner ... which would be fine for doing this type of challenge ... I simply keep pushing and pushing ... rather than wait for betting opps to come to me.

Oh well like someone once told me ... "it is what it is" ... might start a mini-challenge say £300 to £3K ... to use as a practice on keeping tighter control. Not sure yet.

Report gawdalmighty • April 14, 2014 9:53 AM BST

Undern, just to echo what a few others have already said, 100 pounds/euro a day would be a nice little income

Plus if you could keep that steady amount coming in every day, which you have proven you can do quite easily, then you could always up the anti to 200 per day further down the road (if you so wished). Surely that must be better than trying for 1000+ sporadically and then a complete loss of whole bank roll?

Anyways Undern, unlucky on the latest challenge, would be great to see you back BUT aiming for smaller constant profits, rather than huge profits followed by a huge loss. GL mate.

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