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18 Jan 14 17:06
Date Joined: 08 Mar 05
| Topic/replies: 72 | Blogger: ridiculously's blog
There is a betting syndicate arbing every single tennis match with Pinnacles odds here at bf since years.

For example todays Wawrika against Robredo match:
Robredo is 1.413 at Pinnacle with a maximum stake of 22737 Euro at the moment.
You will surely find a lay bet with 22797 Euro at 1.40 at betfair 
Robredo has 3.21 at Pinnacle with a maximum stake of 9198 Euro.
That means you will surely find a back bet at 1.47 with 20210 Euro stake at betfair

This appears at every single tennis match and it appears also at setbetting

Everything they have to do now is sitting in front of their computers and waiting.
Like the cat is waiting for the mouse.

Ok, thats nothing forbidden. Really annoying in this case in my opinion is:

a) This syndicate doesn´t have to pay any premium charge
b) The syndicate acting with a 2% commission. Most customers not located in the UK have to pay a minimum commission of 2,5 or 2,8%.

I would like to say thank you betfair for supporting betting syndicates instead of normal players.

Great work!
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Report YOMOMMA January 18, 2014 6:09 PM GMT
It's either
a) an arber with multiple accounts. or

b)betfair themselves as they have admitted betting in their own markets.

If you arb between pinnacle and betfair I guarantee you will win at betfair and lose at pinnacle as they have the much more sharper odds.

It's not just what you've spotted here which is odd but the chap with the bot on the football asian handicap market. How does he not pay  PC? Also I bet a lot on the football European handicaps -1, -2, -3 there's bots operating and winning lots and lots of money sometimes enough to be able to pay PC in one day. How can this be unless it's someone with multiple accounts or betfair themselves.

It doesn't add up to me.
Report JML January 18, 2014 6:11 PM GMT
One of the strangest posts I have read in a long time.

If they gan surely find a back bet of 1.47 and a lay bet of 1.40 on Betfair why bother with Pinnacle at all.

If it's so easy,what's stopping you doing the same?

If they are arbing Pinnacle odds with Betfair they quite possibly pay more than 40% in retained commission and are not liable for PC.
Report Do wah Diddy January 19, 2014 1:40 PM GMT
Report Do wah Diddy January 19, 2014 1:40 PM GMT
Report ridiculously August 29, 2014 3:14 PM BST
Good example are current US-Open.

If Pinnacle offering 1.40 odds for Player A with a maximum stake of 20.000 Euro, you will ALWAYS find a lay bet at 1.39 with a 20.431 stake at betfair without any doubt.
This applies for EVERY game and for EVERY player 100% sure.
Mostly this applies also for set-betting.

Check it out LaughLaugh
Report sun October 1, 2014 12:52 PM BST
Report logroller October 4, 2014 2:28 AM BST
do u seriously think the 3 biggest betting syndicates using Betfair are paying PC ?
Report puertabanus October 19, 2014 7:53 PM BST
Here´s the deal, getting bigger rebates is no problem, if you look at the website betting-analyst ,you will see they are introducing players to low fee master agents, however, premium charge can still be passed on if their is not enough in the pool to absorb (other players who lose using same agent), works well!!
Report ridiculously June 2, 2017 1:58 PM BST
Our friends are back now with an unlimited Pinnacle account - laying the complete French Open (Set betting as well) with Pinnacle odds.
Report River Me June 2, 2017 6:16 PM BST
Its me, please keep it quiet im on a winner here.  :)
Report ridiculously June 2, 2017 6:53 PM BST
Good to know Wink

Private question:
1. What keeps you awake 18 hours a day?
2. What did you do to have your previous 1200 Euro limit removed by Pinnacle?
Report pxb June 3, 2017 5:20 AM BST
If you hand money over to a third party to bet with, you might as well add a note saying 'Please scam me'.
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