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siwaadupa
07 Jan 14 12:50
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For the last week i made:
1315,28 Net
On PC portal I see:
Gross PL: 2108,14
Commission Generated: 662,13
Which gives 1446,01
Why my net on PL page for this period is: 1315,25 then?
Why I earned 1315,28 and on PC portal my net is 1446,01 am i calculating right?
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Report siwaadupa • January 7, 2014 12:54 PM GMT
I want to add that I have deducted primera division from this calculations- didnt do rugby.
Report siwaadupa • January 7, 2014 12:56 PM GMT
just dont know where 131 evaporated ?- dont understand those PC portal calculations.
Report Llamedos • January 7, 2014 1:04 PM GMT
Caught in the NET of the fictitious 3% commission generated figure
Report maas • January 7, 2014 1:05 PM GMT
Com Generated is not the same as commission paid
Report siwaadupa • January 7, 2014 1:24 PM GMT

Jan 7, 2014 -- 1:05PM, maas wrote:


Com Generated is not the same as commission paid


Can you point me a lecture where can I find out more about that?

Report maas • January 7, 2014 1:29 PM GMT
http://www.betfair.com/aboutUs/Betfair.Charges/
Report siwaadupa • January 7, 2014 1:34 PM GMT
When Im loosing for example 1000 do I generate a commission?
Report siwaadupa • January 7, 2014 1:37 PM GMT
P.S it so complicated for Francesca from customer service as well. Cant get an answer for more than 5 minutes now.
Report siwaadupa • January 7, 2014 1:38 PM GMT
" I will escalate this with the relevant department and they will get in touch with you via email with all the information required " she doesnt know.
Report Eddie the eagle • January 8, 2014 8:54 AM GMT
Betfair use commission generated when calculating Premium Charge, not commission paid.

  In order to get your commission generated you need to add your commission paid together with implied commission which is 3% on all your losses.
  Then you will have to divide this number by 2 in order to get your commission generated figure.
Report PittsburghPhil • January 8, 2014 4:24 PM GMT
Then you have to take away the number you first thought of Crazy
Report viva el presidente! • January 8, 2014 6:15 PM GMT
Basically, the higher above 3% you are and the higher your win to loss ratio, the bigger the discrepancy.
Report siwaadupa • January 8, 2014 6:20 PM GMT
How do I know implied commission?
Report viva el presidente! • January 8, 2014 7:13 PM GMT
well, you can either go through your your statement and work it out market by market, or you can just accept the fact that it's right. which it probably is.
Report siwaadupa • January 8, 2014 8:24 PM GMT
I love to being betfairian. I have to accept everything because its just "right"
Report viva el presidente! • January 8, 2014 11:02 PM GMT
you don't have to - you can check the figures yourself. but I wouldn't bother in this case because they look about right.

gross losses x 0.015 + (actual commission paid/2) is the quickest way to figure it out (I think - can anyone confirm that?)
Report siwaadupa • January 9, 2014 12:17 AM GMT
Thank you for contacting betfair

In response to your enquiry about the commission generated figure

Commission generated by the customer's activity - this is equal to half of the commission paid on market winnings plus half of the commission implied on market losses

Implied market losses is set at 3%

So for example assuming you are on 5% commission  if you won £3000 and lost £2000 making your Profit and loss £1000

Commission generated =0.5 *  (0.05 *£3000)  +  0.5 * (0.03 *£2000)

=  £75 + £30

= £105

Mail from customer service
Report fixed • January 11, 2014 3:24 AM GMT
in other words: half your taxes are calculated by looking at the income of somebody else
Report 0%profit • January 12, 2014 3:12 PM GMT
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