Starting to use "system" to rate races again, after personal circumstances have kicked me sideways last 3 years.
STAKING has always been a main "problem" for me and recording some of thoughts on each day might lead to some valuable contributions from other posters on thread.
Won't post RATINGS til I have placed bets.
Only doing 3 races today ...the 3.00 , 3.10 and 3.40 ones.
Only using a small bank of £500 , as I have not been keeping up to date re how races have been going and am a bit "ring rusty" .....but need to get system up and running and I am cracking on.
Avoiding LAY bets initially, as the "system" was mainly devised to find VALUE on BACK bets.
Trying to keep amount "risked"/staked on each race to no more than 15% of bank.
Already put bets on 3.00 race.....so will post ratings now.
SOUTHWELL
15:00 NH HURDLE RACE
1 Bold Tara 2 Taradrewe 3 Cleve Cottage 4 Gilanto 5 The Happy Warrior 6 Peqeno Diablo =============================================== 7 Agesilas 8 Supercilliary 9 Song of Pride 10 Snowed in
I may well have under rated THE HAPPY WARRIOR.....
I fancied CLEVE COTTAGE as EW bet ...and this is main bet for me.....
Have STAKED £74 on race.......bad start as already included some cover bets (£4 RFCS) and a bit extra put on the EW CLEVE COTTAGE ( £4 WIN and £6 PLACE).
At end of racing will post P & L to record results of bets.
I will later on post some thoughts on the days ratings and bets.
Put a bit more on TARADREWE to win and BOLD TARA.....
With going being "in between" this makes race harder to figure!
Up to £82 on STAKES....so stopping there on 3.00.Put a bit more on TARADREWE to win and BOLD TARA.....With going being "in between" this makes race harder to figure!
1 Berkeley Street 2 Minstrel Lad 3 Taxiformissbyron 4 Auden 5 Outlaw Torn 6 Eco Warrior ============================================================== 7 Scamperdale 8 Final Delivery 9 Shirazz 10 Derfenna Art 11 Time Square
I definitely under rated SHIRAZ..........so am wary of that one and included in some bets.
BERKELEY STREET appears to be a VALUE bet....and ECO WARRIOR and SCAMPERDALE may well get into places...so at the odds have covered them to figure with small BETS!
TOP 3 rated are main bets though...
WOLVERHAMPTON 15:10 AW RACE 1 Berkeley Street2 Minstrel Lad3 Taxiformissbyron4 Auden5 Outlaw Torn6 Eco Warrior============================================================== 7 Scamperdale8 Final Delivery9 Shi
3.00 once again the "system" gets it "right re horse that ran well .....and won....and I of course get it "wrong" re CLEVE COTTAGE.......I REALLY NEED TO TRUST THE "SYSTEM" !!!!!!!
Ignoring my own "fancies" would be a good idea
RESULT 15:00 Southwell Full result 1st 7 Bold Tara 8/1 2nd 8 The Happy Warrior 7/4 f 3rd 3 Superciliary 9/2
3.00 once again the "system" gets it "right re horse that ran well .....and won....and I of course get it "wrong" re CLEVE COTTAGE.......I REALLY NEED TO TRUST THE "SYSTEM" !!!!!!!Ignoring my own "fancies" would be a good ideaRESULT 15:00 SouthwellFu
Had a small cover win bet on OUTLAW TORN....so no real damage done there....but PLACE BETS again hammered in 3.10
RATINGS pretty BAD for 3.10 RESULT
15:10 Wolverhampton Full result 1st 6 Outlaw Torn (IRE) 7/1 2nd 10 Shirazz 9/2 j 3rd 4 Derfenna Art (IRE) 8/1
Had a small cover win bet on OUTLAW TORN....so no real damage done there....but PLACE BETS again hammered in 3.10RATINGS pretty BAD for 3.10RESULT 15:10 WolverhamptonFull result1st 6 Outlaw Torn (IRE) 7/12nd 10 Shirazz 9/2 j3rd 4
15:40 Wolverhampton Full result 1st 5 Primacy (IRE) 16/1 2nd 2 Ice Tres 7/1 3rd 6 The Yank 4/1
had PRIMACY EW ....but not as a MAIN BET!
So won in WIN market ...and lost in PLACE market ...AGAIN!
RESULT 15:40 WolverhamptonFull result1st 5 Primacy (IRE) 16/12nd 2 Ice Tres 7/13rd 6 The Yank 4/1had PRIMACY EW ....but not as a MAIN BET!So won in WIN market ...and lost in PLACE market ...AGAIN!
3 winners all above the line....but only 1 top rated. This is at least a reasonable result for ratings.
SUPERCILLIARY , SHIRAZZ and THE YANK were the LAYS that could have been done today ....but initially opting NOT to LAY .
Too many short odds ones getting into places today......that's racing.....this leads to loss on VALUE PLACE backs...
Will try again tomorrow...and will post P & L re 3 races shortly.
PLACE BETTING gave rise to a loss on day....3 winners all above the line....but only 1 top rated. This is at least a reasonable result for ratings.SUPERCILLIARY , SHIRAZZ and THE YANK were the LAYS that could have been done today ....but initially op
Horse Racing Showing 1 - 7 of 7 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£) Horse Racing / Wolv 6th Jan : To Be Placed 06-Jan-14 15:40 06-Jan-14 15:44 -16.50 Horse Racing / Wolv 6th Jan : 1m4f Hcap 06-Jan-14 15:40 06-Jan-14 15:43 22.83 Horse Racing / Wolv 6th Jan : To Be Placed 06-Jan-14 15:10 06-Jan-14 15:13 -45.00 Horse Racing / Wolv 6th Jan : 1m1f Hcap 06-Jan-14 15:10 06-Jan-14 15:12 -2.00 Horse Racing / Sthl (RFC) 6th Jan : Reverse FC 06-Jan-14 15:00 06-Jan-14 15:09 -7.00 Horse Racing / Sthl 6th Jan : To Be Placed 06-Jan-14 15:00 06-Jan-14 15:09 -14.49 Horse Racing / Sthl 6th Jan : 2m4f Hcap Hrd 06-Jan-14 15:00 06-Jan-14 15:06 13.92 =================================================
PLACE BETTING costly today.......might change tomorrow on PLACE BETTING.....
DAY 1 BETTING RESULTS ON 3 RATED RACESHorse Racing: -£48.24 Total P&L: -£48.24 LOSS Horse Racing Showing 1 - 7 of 7 marketsMarket Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)Horse Racing / Wolv 6th Jan : To Be Placed 06-Jan-14 1
Full Result Pos Dist Horse Trainer Age Weight Jockey SP 1st (9) 6 Outlaw Torn (IRE) R C Guest 5 9-5 e R Fitzpatrick 7/1 Raced keenly, led early, chased leader 3f, remained handy, effort on inside under pressure over 1f out, ridden to lead 1f out, edged right inside final furlong, eased close home opened 8/1 2nd (8) 1½ 10 Shirazz S Durack 5 9-2 t G Baker 9/2j Behind, headway over 3f out, chased leaders 2f out, ridden and every chance when edged left over 1f out, chased winner and stayed on same pace final furlong opened 4/1 3rd (11) 3¾ 4 Derfenna Art (IRE) S Durack 5 9-6 t Martin Harley 8/1 Rearing in stalls, soon led, pushed along 3f out, ridden and pressed over 1f out, headed 1f out, lost 2nd soon after and stayed on same pace 4th (2) ¾ 7 Minstrel Lad Mrs L Pearce 6 9-4 P Aspell 9/2j Hewld up, headway to chase leaders over 6f out, ridden and every chance over 1f out, kept on same pace inside final furlong 5th (4) hd 2 Time Square (FR) A W Carroll 7 9-7 L Morris 33/1 Took keen hold, tracked leading pair, went 2nd over 6f out, ridden and every chance over 1f out, kept on same pace inside final furlong 6th (7) 3¼ 1 Auden (USA) J R Jenkins 6 9-13 v Freddie Tylicki 6/1 Chased leaders, pushed along 3f out, ridden over 1f out, weakened final furlong 7th (3) hd 3 Taxiformissbyron M Herrington 4 9-6 G Lee 10/1 Chased leaders, pushed along 4f out, ridden over 1f out, weakened final furlong opened 8/1 8th (6) 2¼ 11 Scamperdale B P J Baugh 12 9-2 b1 T P Queally 12/1 Slowly into stride, held up and behind, never on terms opened 16/1 9th (1) 1 8 Berkeley Street (USA) Jane Chapple-Hyam 4 9-3 v A Kirby 7/1 Slowly into stride and early reminder, held up in mid-division, ridden over 2f out, weakened soon after, eased when no chance inside final furlong 10th (5) 13 5 Eco Warrior J W Hills 4 9-5 Martin Lane 14/1 Slowly into stride, pushed along over 3f out, never on terms opened 16/1 11th (10) 26 9 Final Delivery J R Boyle 5 9-3 v Stephen Craine 8/1 Held up in mid-division, headway to chase leaders over 6f out, pushed along 3f out, soon lost place, eased over 1f out, tailed off opened 16/1 Betting Breakdown
FULL RESULT ON 3.10 RACEFull ResultPos Dist Horse Trainer Age Weight Jockey SP1st (9) 6 Outlaw Torn (IRE) R C Guest 5 9-5 e R Fitzpatrick 7/1Raced keenly, led early, chased leader 3f, remained h
Pos Dist Horse Trainer Age Weight Jockey SP 1st (4) 5 Primacy (IRE) N P Mulholland 5 9-3 L P Keniry 16/1 opened 14/1 2nd (5) nk 2 Ice Tres B R Millman 5 9-6 Martin Lane 7/1 opened 6/1 3rd (3) 4 6 The Yank A W Carroll 5 9-3 L Morris 4/1 opened 6/1 4th (8) ½ 8 Azabitmour (FR) J R Best 4 9-2 G Lee 20/1 5th (6) hd 7 Excellent News (IRE) A L Forbes 5 9-3 Jack Duern (5) 25/1 6th (7) nk 10 Fair Breeze R T Phillips 7 9-1 b1 Joe Doyle (7) 25/1 7th (2) 7 3 Lord Golan Miss A Stokell 6 9-6 b William Carson 20/1 8th (11) 7 9 Agapanthus (GER) N P Mulholland 9 9-1 p T P Queally 7/2 opened 3/1 touched 11/4 9th (9) 3¼ 11 Impeccability J Mackie 4 8-11 J Quinn 7/1 10th (1) 3 4 Midnight Bahia (IRE) D K Ivory 5 9-4 R Winston 14/1 opened 10/1 11th (10) 38 1 Layla's Boy S G West 7 9-7 bt A Kirby 3/1f opened 4/1 Betting Breakdown
4th and 5th again ....so missed out on PLACE RETURN!
Just one of those days re PLACE bets.
Full Result 3.40 racePos Dist Horse Trainer Age Weight Jockey SP1st (4) 5 Primacy (IRE) N P Mulholland 5 9-3 L P Keniry 16/1opened 14/12nd (5) nk 2 Ice Tres B R Millman 5 9-6
DFC - Is the bank an absolute total bank, daily bank??
Betting 15% of any bank on one race is suicide. Seems you are trying cover all bases with your bets which to me means you have very little confidence in your ratings. Doing fc bets is the road to the poor house as the margins on them are huge. I do them whenever I have a b365 account to keep the account looking like a mug account and because I know I will get massive value on the fixed odds fc because normally both selections will be backed.
Anyway, GL with your betting but you are making the classic mistake of trying to win too much with a nominal bank. Always leads to bust on any bad swing.
DFC - Is the bank an absolute total bank, daily bank??Betting 15% of any bank on one race is suicide. Seems you are trying cover all bases with your bets which to me means you have very little confidence in your ratings. Doing fc bets is the road to
RG - just using £500 for getting myself back into watching and keeping abreast of how races are being run for JANUARY.
I know I made a few errors in ratings yesterday.............due to not being watching enough races recently. Also a bit rusty ( IRONMAN etc ) on using "system", and these factors combined with knowing each STRATEGY should work long term at certain times in year led me to attempt to use parts of them.......
FIRST day ....so hopefully I will get ratings up to better standard, then get used to applying some strategies more in line with how they are supposed to be applied!!!!
15% on 1 race is too high.....mind you if the 15 % had been only applied to the WIN MARKET on the 3 races.....and ignoring the PLACE MARKETS ......today would have been a profit. WOULDA ....COULDA....SHOUDAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
You know what it is like re betting.......a loss will happen now and then ...and yesterday it was the PLACE MARKET where results led to a loss....due to RATINGS not being up to high enough standard . Hopefully such losses are not in the BLACK SWAN mold , where a RUN of LOSSES occurs.....and the GOOD DAYS produce higher PROFITS than the days when losses are made.
As for SFCs/RFCs, it was relatively small bets and I know I have to cut out such bets, as not a STRATEGY that "works" using RATINGS....so far!
Will try to curb the amount staked per race RG......until I get more used to using ratings again
G M the nooooooooooooooooooooo
RG - just using £500 for getting myself back into watching and keeping abreast of how races are being run for JANUARY. I know I made a few errors in ratings yesterday.............due to not being watching enough races recently. Also a bit rusty ( IR
Problems with computer and phone calls!!!! AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
SOUTHWELL
13:00
1 Pass The Time 2 Cape Safari 3 Shirls Son Sam 4 Miss Mohawk 5 Opus ================================================================ 6 Celebrian 7 Jawaab 8 Una Bella Cosa 9 Hartlebu
MAIN BET EW CAPE SAFARI .
STAKED altogether £85......well over limit of 15%......FAV might win ....so have a cover bet to reduce liability if it does.
GL with bets today.
Only doing this race and 2.10 and 3.45 SOUTHWELL as well as 2.25 LEICESTER.
All a bit hurried today ....not best way to do this !
Problems with computer and phone calls!!!! AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHSOUTHWELL 13:00 1 Pass The Time2 Cape Safari3 Shirls Son Sam4 Miss Mohawk5 Opus================================================================ 6
1 Kung Hei Fat Choy 2 Repetition 3 Arabian Flight 4 Strong Man 5 Barbados Bob =============================================================== 6 Piceno 7 Sam Spade 8 Marciano
EW on KUNG HEI FAT CHOY....big place bet......plus have win and small place bets on STRONG MAN and REPETITION.
£122 on this race ( £50 win on fav plus others and £60 PLACE on fav main reasons)
14:10 1 Kung Hei Fat Choy 2 Repetition 3 Arabian Flight 4 Strong Man 5 Barbados Bob =============================================================== 6 Piceno 7 Sam Spade 8 Marciano
1 Meirig's Dream 2 Carli King 3 Crescent Beach 4 Lord Landen 5 Phoenix Des Mottes ================================================================ 6 Thedreamstillalive 7 Kevin Fancy 8 Bringewood Belle 9 Thorncliffer
If HEAVY ...LORD LANDEN is favoured win bet ....if not then MEIRIG'S DREAM is the top rated therefore roughly same profit off that if wins.....break-even if CARLI wins.
Have a couple small PLACE BETS on THORNCLIFFER and BRINGEWOOD BELLE as the 2 bottom rated might grab a place if HEAVY!
Top 4 in market very closely matched.......so a difficult race to clearly see VALUE.....
LEICESTER 14:25 1 Meirig's Dream2 Carli King3 Crescent Beach4 Lord Landen5 Phoenix Des Mottes================================================================ 6 Thedreamstillalive7 Kevin Fancy8 Bringewood Belle
Have to reduce liability on MARCIANO in WIN market ....as market seems to fancy it ....and the BOTTOM RATED horse can win if I have got race wrong on ratings....
2.10Have to reduce liability on MARCIANO in WIN market ....as market seems to fancy it ....and the BOTTOM RATED horse can win if I have got race wrong on ratings....
13:00 Southwell Full result 1st 5 Pass The Time 5/1 2nd 3 Opus (IRE) 8/1 3rd 2 Jawaab (IRE) 7/4 f
14:10 Southwell Full result 1st 3 Kung Hei Fat Choy (USA) 6/4 f 2nd 5 Strong Man 20/1 3rd 4 Barbados Bob (USA) 4/1
STRONG MAN in 2.10 was a good return on PLACE bet...so now about £75 up on thread overall.
13:00 SouthwellFull result1st 5 Pass The Time 5/12nd 3 Opus (IRE) 8/13rd 2 Jawaab (IRE) 7/4 f 14:10 SouthwellFull result1st 3 Kung Hei Fat Choy (USA) 6/4 f2nd 5 Strong Man 20/13rd 4 Barbados Bob (USA) 4
MAIN BET EW BLADEWOOD GIRL......with win bets on TIJUCA and small win Mataajir....THE TROYSTER is also an EW bet.
GL with bets.
Last race rated ...15:45 1 Bladewood Girl2 The Troyster3 Botanist4 Tijuca5 Mataajir================================================================= 6 Amber Moon7 General Tufto8 HuzzahMAIN BET EW BLADEWOOD GIRL......
Have stuck on some cover bets in case HUZZAH wins.....on TOTE EXACTA....At the time of day the older horse might run a big race......though BOTTOM RATED!
Could not post this early....as might ruin returns....
TIJUCA may go well as very windy at SOUTHWELL.....but hoping my nap in comp wins ...BLADEWOOD BELLE
3.45Have stuck on some cover bets in case HUZZAH wins.....on TOTE EXACTA....At the time of day the older horse might run a big race......though BOTTOM RATED!Could not post this early....as might ruin returns....TIJUCA may go well as very windy at SOU
£40 lost on PLACE bets....and £18 on TOTE bets .....small profit off WIN market.....
PLACE bets still giving too many losses.......but still in profit on day and I think ahead overall on thread.
Soon find out!
£40 lost on PLACE bets....and £18 on TOTE bets .....small profit off WIN market.....PLACE bets still giving too many losses.......but still in profit on day and I think ahead overall on thread.Soon find out!
15:45 Southwell Full result 1st 4 Mataajir (USA) 5/2 f 2nd 6 Huzzah (IRE) 7/2 3rd 1 General Tufto 9/2
Lost £63 on last race.......at least HUZZAH and GEN T did not.....so ratings ok on that.
Will post P & L shortly
15:45 SouthwellFull result1st 4 Mataajir (USA) 5/2 f2nd 6 Huzzah (IRE) 7/23rd 1 General Tufto 9/2Lost £63 on last race.......at least HUZZAH and GEN T did not.....so ratings ok on that.Will post P & L shortly
Horse Racing: £69.43 Total P&L: £69.43 PROFIT LESS £18 ON TOTE BETS.
Horse Racing Showing 1 - 10 of 10 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£) Horse Racing / Sthl (RFC) 7th Jan : Reverse FC 07-Jan-14 15:45 07-Jan-14 15:52 -5.00 Horse Racing / Sthl 7th Jan : To Be Placed 07-Jan-14 15:45 07-Jan-14 15:52 -40.00 Horse Racing / Sthl 7th Jan : 1m Hcap 07-Jan-14 15:45 07-Jan-14 15:51 10.86 Horse Racing / Leic (RFC) 7th Jan : Reverse FC 07-Jan-14 14:25 07-Jan-14 14:32 -2.00 Horse Racing / Leic 7th Jan : To Be Placed 07-Jan-14 14:25 07-Jan-14 14:31 -9.00 Horse Racing / Leic 7th Jan : 2m4f Hcap Chs 07-Jan-14 14:25 07-Jan-14 14:31 -4.40 Horse Racing / Sthl 7th Jan : To Be Placed 07-Jan-14 14:10 07-Jan-14 14:17 58.24 Horse Racing / Sthl 7th Jan : 7f Hcap 07-Jan-14 14:10 07-Jan-14 14:11 75.51 Horse Racing / Sthl 7th Jan : To Be Placed 07-Jan-14 13:00 07-Jan-14 13:08 -34.48 Horse Racing / Sthl 7th Jan : 2m Hcap 07-Jan-14 13:00 07-Jan-14 13:06 21.30 Profit and Loss is shown net of commission. All times are UKT ? unless otherwise stated. ========================================================================================
PLACE BETING been very expensive over the 2 days....but will persist for a while yet.
I did one other race outside thread races....and got the 25-1 SP winner with small stakes on it so happy enough with overall day results.
Cheers the noooooooooooo
DAY 2 RESULTSHorse Racing: £69.43 Total P&L: £69.43 PROFIT LESS £18 ON TOTE BETS. Horse Racing Showing 1 - 10 of 10 marketsMarket Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)Horse Racing / Sthl (RFC) 7th Jan : Reverse FC 07-Jan
Horse Racing / Leic 7th Jan : To Be Placed 07-Jan-14 15:30 07-Jan-14 15:35 24.89 Horse Racing / Leic 7th Jan : 2m Hcap Hrd 07-Jan-14 15:30 07-Jan-14 15:34 28.09
RACE outside thread and system not used ..Horse Racing / Leic 7th Jan : To Be Placed 07-Jan-14 15:30 07-Jan-14 15:35 24.89Horse Racing / Leic 7th Jan : 2m Hcap Hrd 07-Jan-14 15:30 07-Jan-14 15:34 28.09
1ST 5-1 1 Pass The Time 2 Cape Safari 3 Shirls Son Sam 4 Miss Mohawk 2ND 8-1 5 Opus ================================================================ 6 Celebrian 3RD 1.75 F 7 Jawaab 8 Una Bella Cosa 9 Hartlebu
14:10
1ST 1.5 1 Kung Hei Fat Choy 2 Repetition 3 Arabian Flight 2ND 20-1 4 Strong Man 3RD 4-1 5 Barbados Bob =============================================================== 6 Piceno 7 Sam Spade 8 Marciano
So far over the 2 days no winners below the line on ratings ( 7 races only rated so far) with 3 winners being top rated at 5-1 , 1.5 and 8-1 out of the 7 races.. RATINGS doing reasonably well ....but my BET SELECTIONS in PLACE market have been extremely costly.
RATINGS RESULTS DAY 2 SOUTHWELL 13:00 1ST 5-1 1 Pass The Time 2 Cape Safari 3 Shirls Son Sam 4 Miss Mohawk2ND 8-1 5 Opus ================================================================
DAY 1 BETTING RESULTS ON 3 RATED RACES Horse Racing: -£48.24 Total P&L: -£48.24 LOSS DAY 2 RESULTS Horse Racing: £69.43 Total P&L: £69.43 PROFIT LESS £18 ON TOTE BETS.
CUMULATIVE PROFIT ON THREAD ............................£ 3.19
Substantial amounts lost on PLACE BETS over the 2 days ......but feel I am getting more in tune with how races are being run, so good to be back in profit, althoughbeit small amount.
Cheers the nooooooooooooo
TOTAL RESULTS ON THREAD SO FARDAY 1 BETTING RESULTS ON 3 RATED RACES Horse Racing: -£48.24 Total P&L: -£48.24 LOSSDAY 2 RESULTS Horse Racing: £69.43 Total P&L: £69.43 PROFIT LESS £18 ON TOTE BETS.CUMULATIVE PROFIT ON THREAD ......
Some people are in to "systems", so the thread might "interest" some....and as far as I'm concerned I might get some useful comments. Thus the thread is for my benefit mainly.
Last 2 days I'm about £174 up on bank through some bets without the "system" on horse racing and football. This reasonably good from my perspective operating with £500 bank, and whilst only £3.19 up on the "systems" thread, I'm happy enough with progress SO FAR re getting in tune with current racing.
The WIN MARKET results on thread are up to good standard.....just the PLACE BETTING has been costly .....but only 2 days into thread, and my betting selections will improve as days go by now Im using the "system".
Have not seen any enlightening posts from you on Forum.....so I suggest you just stay in cheap seats and suffer the thread. If you don't like it don't watch it!
GL with your bets though.
Well certainly not you NM.Some people are in to "systems", so the thread might "interest" some....and as far as I'm concerned I might get some useful comments. Thus the thread is for my benefit mainly. Last 2 days I'm about £174 up on bank through s
1 Mojolika 2 Phantom Prince 3 Nesterenko 4 Bohemian Rhapsody 5 Forced Family Fun 6 Hartside 7 Dark And Dangerous XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 8 Minsky Mine 9 Groomed 10 Great Value 11 Boston Blue 12 Stephen Hero
MAIN BET BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY.....
GL with bets today
DONCASTER NH12:40 1 Mojolika2 Phantom Prince3 Nesterenko4 Bohemian Rhapsody5 Forced Family Fun6 Hartside7 Dark And Dangerous XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX8 Minsky Mine9 Groomed10 Great Value11
LOSS on race......PLACE BETS a profit ...but did not back FFF......
Everything went wrong today re this race.....Computer problems ...and domestic chores etc etc etc....the bets were RUSHED.......but at least standard of RATINGS was ok with 1st 2nd and 3rd in top 5 rated.
12:40 Doncaster Full result 1st 14 Forced Family Fun 5/1 2nd 8 Mojolika 15/2 3rd 6 Bohemian Rhapsody (IRE) 4/1
LOSS on race......PLACE BETS a profit ...but did not back FFF......Everything went wrong today re this race.....Computer problems ...and domestic chores etc etc etc....the bets were RUSHED.......but at least standard of RATINGS was ok with 1st 2nd an
1 Miquel Grau 2 Munsarim 3 Karam Albaari 4 Franco is My Name 5 Chapter And Verse 6 Syncopate ========================================== 7 Modernism 8 Rakaan 9 Cayuga 10 Maria's Choice
MAIN BET to WIN is MIQUEL GRUA ( and place) and also have a reasonable stake on KARAM ALBAARI......with PLACE bets on MUNSARIM and FRANCO IS MY NAME & CHAPTER AND VERSE .
A difficult race to rate IMO......hopefully the ratings are up to reasonable standard.
Feeling very narky today......and state of mind is pretty bad!
As have rated 2.45, 3.10,3.50,4.10,5.10 and 6.10 races, then as manually having to input RACE CARD data fro each race rated, then this probably contributing to state of mind!
LINGFIELD 14:00 1 Miquel Grau2 Munsarim3 Karam Albaari4 Franco is My Name5 Chapter And Verse6 Syncopate========================================== 7 Modernism8 Rakaan9 Cayuga10 Maria's ChoiceMAIN BET to W
14:00 Lingfield Park Full result 1st 4 Cayuga 10/1 2nd 8 Miguel Grau (USA) 5/2 f 3rd 3 Chapter And Verse (IRE) 25/1
FAV came too late .....CHAPTER AND VERSE placing helped to almost break-even on race.....
14:00 Lingfield ParkFull result1st 4 Cayuga 10/12nd 8 Miguel Grau (USA) 5/2 f3rd 3 Chapter And Verse (IRE) 25/1FAV came too late .....CHAPTER AND VERSE placing helped to almost break-even on race.....
1 Bajan Bear 2 Alnoomaas 3 Rigolleto 4 Seek The Fair Land 5 Senator Bong 6 Panther Patrol ========================================== 7 Smokethatthunders 8 El Mirage 9 Valmina 10 Billy Red
Main bet TOP RATED EW.......BAJAN BEAR
Alnoomaas Rigolleto Seek The Fair Land All backed to win as well
Some PLACE bets as well.
15:10 1 Bajan Bear2 Alnoomaas3 Rigolleto4 Seek The Fair Land5 Senator Bong6 Panther Patrol========================================== 7 Smokethatthunders8 El Mirage9 Valmina10 Billy RedMain bet TOP RATED EW.....
Only a small PROFIT on 2.45 due to losses in PLACE market on main 2 bets....still at least a PROFIT!
14:45 Doncaster Full result 1st 6 Ifyousayso (IRE) 11/2 2nd 1 Triangular (USA) 4/1 f 3rd 10 Honest John 14/1
Only a small PROFIT on 2.45 due to losses in PLACE market on main 2 bets....still at least a PROFIT! 14:45 DoncasterFull result1st 6 Ifyousayso (IRE) 11/22nd 1 Triangular (USA) 4/1 f3rd 10 Honest John 14/1
1 Lucas Pitt 2 Top Billing 3 Mumbies Bay 4 Balinderry 5 Polo Springs 6 Thurnham 7 Wheelavher 8 Burnthill =========================================== 9 Another Dimension 10 Ravens Secret 11 Minden Marcg 12 Milan Of Hope 13 Blue Sea Of Ibrox 14 Oak Wood
Most of top 6 backed to win.....and BURNTHILL a small win too.
THURNHAM and some others are PLACE bets including TB
15:50 NH 1 Lucas Pitt2 Top Billing3 Mumbies Bay4 Balinderry5 Polo Springs6 Thurnham7 Wheelavher8 Burnthill=========================================== 9 Another Dimension10 Ravens Secret11 Minden Marcg12 Mi
15:10 Lingfield Park Full result 1st 3 Valmina 16/1 2nd 5 Seek The Fair Land 9/2 3rd 10 Rigolleto (IRE) 16/1
Thought I'd backed 2nd and 3rd to place...but just forgot to place bets !
Costly race due to high odds winner from below ratings line.......first nasty one in WIN market.....
Not a good day SO FAR....Can turn around yet ....so will continue.
15:10 Lingfield ParkFull result1st 3 Valmina 16/12nd 5 Seek The Fair Land 9/23rd 10 Rigolleto (IRE) 16/1Thought I'd backed 2nd and 3rd to place...but just forgot to place bets !Costly race due to high odds winner from below ra
1 Perfect Cracker 2 Mountain Range 3 Red Dragon 4 Song Light 5 King Olav 6 Poitin 7 Planetoid ============================================== 8 Understory 9 Travelling 10 Lady Lunchalot 11 Mr Red Clubs 12 Impersonator Augustus 13 Swehan
All top 5 backed to win....Have PLACE bets on a few including KING OLAV other top 4 rated ones.
KEMPTON 16:10 1 Perfect Cracker2 Mountain Range3 Red Dragon4 Song Light5 King Olav6 Poitin7 Planetoid============================================== 8 Understory9 Travelling10 Lady Lunchalot11 Mr Red C
Suspect the manual inputting of RACES......and the betting , is knackering me. The RATINGS have been up to reasonable standard, but my PLACE BETTING has not reaped anything other than LOSSES ...SO FAR!
Might get lucky with PLACE bets in 4.10...I hope
Suspect the manual inputting of RACES......and the betting , is knackering me. The RATINGS have been up to reasonable standard, but my PLACE BETTING has not reaped anything other than LOSSES ...SO FAR!Might get lucky with PLACE bets in 4.10...I hope
16:10 Kempton Park Full result 1st 2 Swehan (IRE) 7/2 2nd 4 Travelling 50/1 3rd 6 Red Dragon (IRE) 8/1
Lost on WIN market but 2nd and 3rd turned loss to profit...for once...
16:10 Kempton ParkFull result1st 2 Swehan (IRE) 7/22nd 4 Travelling 50/13rd 6 Red Dragon (IRE) 8/1Lost on WIN market but 2nd and 3rd turned loss to profit...for once...
1 Custom House 2 Blue Noodles 3 Chandrayaan 4 Surrey Dream 5 Seamster 6 Mill I Am 7 Wishformore ============================================ 8 Slip Of A Girl 9 Roxy Lane 10 Chilltern Secret 11 Choral Rhythm 12 Pastoral Dancer 13 Jjs Pride
MAIN WIN BETS Custom House Blue Noodles Chandrayaan Surrey Dream
Roxy Lane
MAIN PLACE BETS Custom House Blue Noodles Chandrayaan Surrey Dream
Roxy Lane Wishformore and Slip of a Girl
Ones in bold are ones I want!
17:10 AW 1 Custom House2 Blue Noodles3 Chandrayaan4 Surrey Dream5 Seamster6 Mill I Am7 Wishformore============================================ 8 Slip Of A Girl9 Roxy Lane10 Chilltern Secret11 Choral Rhythm12
1 Rutterkin 2 New Rich 3 Rose Garnet 4 Divine Call 5 Insolenceofoffice ============================================= 6 Indian Affair 7 Safwaan 8 Katy Spirit 9 Tingle Tangle
Really tricky race to rate..
Opted for RUTTERKIN as main EW bet ...but backed to WIN and PLACE is NEW RICH...plus some other bets.
18:10 AW 1 Rutterkin2 New Rich3 Rose Garnet4 Divine Call5 Insolenceofoffice============================================= 6 Indian Affair7 Safwaan8 Katy Spirit9 Tingle TangleReally tricky race to rate..Opted for RUT
5.10 lost in WIN market again....aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh MILL I AM was above the ratings line ....
PLACE bets about broke even...due to SURREY DREAM......only 1 placed so not good enough.
17:10 Kempton Park Full result 1st 3 Mill I Am (USA) 6/1 2nd 10 Pastoral Dancer 33/1 3rd 9 Surrey Dream (IRE) 10/1
5.10 lost in WIN market again....aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh MILL I AM was above the ratings line ....PLACE bets about broke even...due to SURREY DREAM......only 1 placed so not good enough. 17:10 Kempton ParkFull result1st 3 Mill I Am (USA) 6/12nd
Another BAD result ....even although winner was in top rated above line....
A BAD day generally with bets.....ratings were pretty average...
Mat take a rest on tomorrow racing...see how I feel.
Another BAD result ....even although winner was in top rated above line....A BAD day generally with bets.....ratings were pretty average...Mat take a rest on tomorrow racing...see how I feel.
2nd 2.5 f 1 Miquel Grau 2 Munsarim 3 Karam Albaari 4 Franco is My Name 3rd 25-1 5 Chapter And Verse 6 Syncopate ========================================== 7 Modernism 8 Rakaan 1st 10-1 9 Cayuga 10 Maria's Choice
14:45 NH
1 Danandy 2 Categorical 1ST 5.5 3 Ifyousayso 4 Mr Supreme 5 Tickatack 6 Global Warming xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 7 My Flora 8 Sail And Return 3RD 14-1 9 Honest John 10 Bruslini 11 Glens Boy 2ND 4-1 F 12 Triangular
15:10 AW
1 Bajan Bear 2 Alnoomaas 3RD 16-1 3 Rigolleto 2ND 4.5 4 Seek The Fair Land 5 Senator Bong 6 Panther Patrol ========================================== 7 Smokethatthunders 8 El Mirage 1ST 16-1 9 Valmina 10 Billy Red
15:50 NH
1 Lucas Pitt 1ST 4-1 F 2 Top Billing 3 Mumbies Bay 4 Balinderry 5 Polo Springs 6 Thurnham 7 Wheelavher 2ND 4.5 8 Burnthill =========================================== 9 Another Dimension 10 Ravens Secret 11 Minden Marcg 12 Milan Of Hope 3RD 12-1 13 Blue Sea Of Ibrox 14 Oak Wood
KEMPTON
16:10 AW
1 Perfect Cracker 2 Mountain Range 3RD 8-1 3 Red Dragon 4 Song Light 5 King Olav 6 Poitin 7 Planetoid ============================================== 8 Understory 2ND 50-1 9 Travelling 10 Lady Lunchalot 11 Mr Red Clubs 12 Impersonator Augustus 1ST 3.5 13 Swehan
17:10 AW
1 Custom House 2 Blue Noodles 3 Chandrayaan 3RD 10-1 4 Surrey Dream 5 Seamster 1ST 6-1 6 Mill I Am 7 Wishformore ============================================ 8 Slip Of A Girl 9 Roxy Lane 10 Chilltern Secret 11 Choral Rhythm 2ND 33-1 12 Pastoral Dancer 13 Jjs Pride
RESULTS ON RATINGS LINGFIELD 14:00 AW 2nd 2.5 f 1 Miquel Grau 2 Munsarim 3 Karam Albaari 4 Franco is My Name3rd 25-1 5 Chapter And Verse 6 Syncopate ==================================
2nd 7.5 1 Mojolika 2 Phantom Prince 3 Nesterenko 3rd 4-1 4 Bohemian Rhapsody 1st 5-1 5 Forced Family Fun 6 Hartside 7 Dark And Dangerous XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 8 Minsky Mine 9 Groomed 10 Great Value 11 Boston Blue 12 Stephen Hero
DONCASTER NH 12:40 2nd 7.5 1 Mojolika 2 Phantom Prince 3 Nesterenko3rd 4-1 4 Bohemian Rhapsody1st 5-1 5 Forced Family Fun 6 Hartside 7 Dark And Dangerous XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Horse Racing Showing 1 - 18 of 18 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£) Horse Racing / Kemp (RFC) 8th Jan : Reverse FC 08-Jan-14 18:10 08-Jan-14 18:14 -2.00 Horse Racing / Kemp 8th Jan : To Be Placed 08-Jan-14 18:10 08-Jan-14 18:14 -19.78 Horse Racing / Kemp 8th Jan : 6f Hcap 08-Jan-14 18:10 08-Jan-14 18:14 -122.00 Horse Racing / Kemp 8th Jan : 6f Mdn Stks 08-Jan-14 17:40 08-Jan-14 17:44 -2.00 Horse Racing / Kemp 8th Jan : To Be Placed 08-Jan-14 17:10 08-Jan-14 17:13 4.28 Horse Racing / Kemp 8th Jan : 7f Hcap 08-Jan-14 17:10 08-Jan-14 17:13 -54.60 Horse Racing / Kemp 8th Jan : To Be Placed 08-Jan-14 16:10 08-Jan-14 16:16 41.94 Horse Racing / Kemp 8th Jan : 1m2f Hcap 08-Jan-14 16:10 08-Jan-14 16:14 -35.80 Horse Racing / Donc 8th Jan : To Be Placed 08-Jan-14 15:50 08-Jan-14 15:58 -24.76 Horse Racing / Donc 8th Jan : 3m Hcap Hrd 08-Jan-14 15:50 08-Jan-14 15:57 27.37 Horse Racing / Ling 8th Jan : 6f Hcap 08-Jan-14 15:10 08-Jan-14 15:12 -52.00 Horse Racing / Donc 8th Jan : To Be Placed 08-Jan-14 14:45 08-Jan-14 14:52 -20.70 Horse Racing / Donc 8th Jan : 3m Hcap Chs 08-Jan-14 14:45 08-Jan-14 14:52 34.51 Horse Racing / Ling (RFC) 8th Jan : Reverse FC 08-Jan-14 14:00 08-Jan-14 14:06 -3.00 Horse Racing / Ling 8th Jan : To Be Placed 08-Jan-14 14:00 08-Jan-14 14:06 22.49 Horse Racing / Ling 8th Jan : 1m2f Hcap 08-Jan-14 14:00 08-Jan-14 14:04 -23.10 Horse Racing / Donc 8th Jan : To Be Placed 08-Jan-14 12:40 08-Jan-14 12:46 9.47 Horse Racing / Donc 8th Jan : 2m Hcap Hrd 08-Jan-14 12:40 08-Jan-14 12:44 -47.00 Profit and Loss is shown net of commission. All times are UKT ? unless otherwise stated. =======================================================================================================
15 races over 3 days rated....have not counted individual bets RG.
Today my mood was effected by "domestic matters" and probably feeding in manually race data into "system" for 8 races took its toll on my energy levels today.
My judgment on bets placed was just pretty poor.......
The RATINGS generally have been above average probably, but yesterday the AW races in particular were just not good enough.
INSOLENCEOFOFFICE win was an annoying one, as it was above the line and I knew it had a fair chance to win......but just never cover it winning.
I also missed placing 3 PLACE bets in 3.10 race......."tiredness" / lack of energy probably the cause of me getting this wrong!
I have been doing "well" on FOOTBALL bets over the 3 days and this has at least kept my "test" bank above £500 ...
Horse Racing: -£196.95 | Soccer: £228.78 Total P&L: £31.83 LESS TOTE LOSSES £ 24.00 = NET £ 7.83 PROFIT
Soccer Showing 1 - 19 of 19 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£) Soccer / Nove Piracicaba U19 v Corinthians U19 : Match Odds 08-Jan-14 23:00 09-Jan-14 01:03 6.95 Soccer / Nove Piracicaba U19 v Corinthians U19 : Correct Score 08-Jan-14 23:00 09-Jan-14 01:03 49.00 Soccer / Nove Piracicaba U19 v Corinthians U19 : Half Time 08-Jan-14 23:00 08-Jan-14 23:58 -6.48 Soccer / Barcelona v Getafe : Correct Score 08-Jan-14 21:00 08-Jan-14 22:50 11.42 Soccer / Racing Santander v Almeria : Correct Score 08-Jan-14 21:00 08-Jan-14 22:49 -6.36 Soccer / Fiorentina v Chievo : Half Time/Full Time 08-Jan-14 20:00 08-Jan-14 21:57 19.99 Soccer / St Etienne v Evian TG : Half Time/Full Time 08-Jan-14 19:45 08-Jan-14 21:40 31.42 Soccer / Crawley Town v Bristol Rovers : Correct Score 08-Jan-14 19:45 08-Jan-14 21:38 24.75 Soccer / Fiorentina v Chievo : Half Time 08-Jan-14 20:00 08-Jan-14 20:52 -4.00 Soccer / Betis v Ath Bilbao : Correct Score 08-Jan-14 19:00 08-Jan-14 20:50 -11.52 Soccer / Alcorcon v Espanyol : Correct Score 08-Jan-14 19:00 08-Jan-14 20:49 -6.24 Soccer / St Etienne v Evian TG : Half Time 08-Jan-14 19:45 08-Jan-14 20:33 -5.00 Soccer / Valencia v Atl Madrid : Correct Score 07-Jan-14 21:00 07-Jan-14 22:50 22.82 Soccer / Shrewsbury v Leyton Orient : Half Time/Full Time 07-Jan-14 19:45 07-Jan-14 21:40 22.82 Soccer / Shrewsbury v Leyton Orient : Half Time 07-Jan-14 19:45 07-Jan-14 20:33 -4.00 Soccer / Rayo Vallecano v Villarreal : Half Time/Full Time 06-Jan-14 21:00 06-Jan-14 22:52 45.65 Soccer / Rayo Vallecano v Villarreal : Half Time 06-Jan-14 21:00 06-Jan-14 21:48 -2.00 Soccer / Lazio v Inter : Correct Score 06-Jan-14 17:30 06-Jan-14 19:24 171.56 Soccer / Lazio v Inter : Over/Under 1.5 Goals 06-Jan-14 17:30 06-Jan-14 19:23 -132.00 Profit and Loss is shown net of commission. All times are UKT ? unless otherwise stated.
One thing about FOOTBALL betting ( I have no edge) is that it does not need hardly any energy to work out bets.
I am having a break today........as still have those damn domestic chores to do. I still believe eventually I will get some very good days that will CLAW BACK the bad days, so will continue thread....not giving up yet!
G M the nooooooooooooo
DAY 3 RESULTSHorse Racing: -£266.68 LOSS Horse Racing Showing 1 - 18 of 18 marketsMarket Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)Horse Racing / Kemp (RFC) 8th Jan : Reverse FC 08-Jan-14 18:10 08-Jan-14 18:14 -2.00Horse R
DFC - Do you really believe you can spot significant value in some races games in 1 day? You are spreading yourself very thin and can not win the way you are going. It is simply impossible.
I cannot wish you best of luck as the way you are betting no amount of luck can help you. You need to step back and look at why you need to have so much "action" in day. The answer is very simple. You have a gambling problem.
Long term winning punters seek out situations where the odds are in their favour through deep analysis - you cannot physically put more than a cursory look given the number of bets you do - that is just a fact.
DFC - Do you really believe you can spot significant value in some races games in 1 day? You are spreading yourself very thin and can not win the way you are going. It is simply impossible.I cannot wish you best of luck as the way you are betting no
RG ......YES....VALUE bets are always there, but your energy levels have to be well up to cope with MANUAL inputting of all races rated, as well placing bets. I have failed SO FAR on the placing of bets.
I put this "failure" down to :-
1. Energy being burned up on inputting data manually for each race rated. 2. My energy levels are low as underwent a major operation in 2012, and still some side effects from it...though got the "all clear" last August, but still being monitored. 3. I am a full-time carer re mother who is 91 with various health related "problems".......this can lead to me being on call sometimes 3/4 times each morning at say 3.00 am, 4.00 am and 6.00 am etc...as well as doing domestic chores etc etc. My energy levels are effected by interruption of sleep virtually daily. 4. The "ring rusty" element re using the "system" and also not really up to speed on how races are being run YET!
I have not been LAYING any horses using RATINGS yet, as bank size for "test" too small IMO, but I trust you will see that it is relatively "easy" to spot VALUE on LAYS using RANK POSITION and the SP ODDS .......I've market ones that if SP ODDS are 9-1 or less and they are below the line, then they are lays in WIN MARKET....IN BOLD.
SP ODDS RESULT AT OFF SOUTHWELL
15:00 NH HURDLE RACE
1 Bold Tara 8 1ST8-1 2 Taradrewe 5 3 Cleve Cottage 8 4 Gilanto 20 5 The Happy Warrior 1.75 2ND7-4F 6 Peqeno Diablo 10 =============================================== 7 Agesilas 14 8 Supercilliary 4.5 3RD4.5 9 Song of Pride 50 10 Snowed in 14
SP ODDS AT OFF RESULT
WOLVERHAMPTON
15:10 AW RACE RESULT
1 Berkeley Street 7 2 Minstrel Lad 4.5 3 Taxiformissbyron 10 4 Auden 6 5 Outlaw Torn 7 1ST7-1 6 Eco Warrior 14 ============================================================== 7 Scamperdale 12 8 Final Delivery 8 9 Shirazz 4.5 2ND9-2 10 Derfenna Art 8 3RD8-1 11 Time Square 33
1 Pass The Time 5 1ST 5-1 2 Cape Safari 3.5 3 Shirls Son Sam 14 4 Miss Mohawk 25 (4TH) 5 Opus 8 2ND 8-1 ================================================================ 6 Celebrian 8 7 Jawaab 1.75 3RD 1.75 F 8 Una Bella Cosa 16 9 Hartlebu 20
SP ODDS RESULT
14:10
1 Kung Hei Fat Choy 1.5 1ST 1.5 2 Repetition 20 (4TH) 3 Arabian Flight 5 4 Strong Man 20 2ND 20-1 5 Barbados Bob 4 3RD 4-1 =============================================================== 6 Piceno 7 7 Sam Spade 50 8 Marciano 5
1 HIT on a LAY out of quite a few obvious LAYS in WIN market.
I trust you recognise this is VALUE.
It is far harder to get BACKING correct, but the "system" has been up to above average standard re WINNERS above the line, though yesterday I got KEMPTON "wrong" on RATINGS too often.........putting this down to my MOOD on the day.
So YES VALUE is there on every race.....and the races selected are the types of races where the "system" operates well on indicating VALUE. It is just me that is the "failure" so far ......IMO for reasons posted above.
Better go check how races are being run today ...as taking a day off RATING.
Thanks again for post RG.......Good to get feedback...especially constructive posts.
GL with bets today.
RG ......YES....VALUE bets are always there, but your energy levels have to be well up to cope with MANUAL inputting of all races rated, as well placing bets. I have failed SO FAR on the placing of bets.I put this "failure" down to :-1. Energy being
Couple errors on marking lays ( knackered as disturbed from sleep at 2.00 am , 3.00 am and 6.00 am and 7.30 am today roughly.....
MARCIANO would be a lay at 5-1 SP....and BRUSILINI at 150-1 was NOT a lay
Couple errors on marking lays ( knackered as disturbed from sleep at 2.00 am , 3.00 am and 6.00 am and 7.30 am today roughly.....MARCIANO would be a lay at 5-1 SP....and BRUSILINI at 150-1 was NOT a lay
Hi guys , here is something that might interest you .
Ok Lay short and Back back at SP .
If the SP Price looks like it is coming in Then Trade Out , If the Price looks like drifting SP .
Hi guys , here is something that might interest you .Ok Lay short and Back back at SP .If the SP Price looks like it is coming in Then Trade Out , If the Price looks like drifting SP .