brazil 1.6 on sunday?

just took the 1.65

Fancy England to get something, oddly. Brazil have done poorly under Scholari, and England know how to park the bus. England AH + 1 is close to evens.

i think with it being a showpiece match, new stadium etc, brazil will be up for it and fielding their strongest..still its one of the rare occassions when i wouldnt mind losing a bet if we manage to pull it off

Moderator salary is not enough, invent some characters to commit fraud & boost income.

SCOM
1 bet, 0 wins, -100% ROI, avg price 1.6

Scom
Well done IQMC with the 6% ROI after 175 bets, but 6% is not enough of a return for me

Good luck with beating 6% with bets at 1.6 fraudy

Fred 57' 
   
1 - 0
   
   
1 - 1
   
68' A. Oxlade-Chamberlain
(assist by W. Rooney)
   
1 - 2
   
79' W. Rooney
(assist by J. Milner)
Paulinho 83'
(assist by Lucas)
   
2 - 2
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If SCOM is a "Trader" ....then 1-0 BRAZIL would be enough for he/she to go all green IQMC.

So don't really see why you consider this a LOSS for SCOM ????

DFC the word IF has never been so prevalent

I would replace the word 'trader' with guesser or fraudster

Personally, I don't count that above scenario as trading. It's betting that England will be ahead at one point. Trading to me is trying to profit from market movements when nothing prima facie changes.

"Trader" might be wrong word......but nevertheless BRAZIL took the lead and if he backed 1.65 as  VALUE back initially, then ,when goes 1-0 ,lays some of profit on BRAZIL off to go all green in match market .......leads to profit.

BRAZIl should have been a few goals ahead at HT.......so SCOM's view that BRAZIL were value at 1.65 was a reasonable view on the odds.

ENGLAND did well to hang in 1st half....and took goals well.....The game probably was more important to E before WCQ matches, whereas BRAZIL already have qualified by right.....and their sharpness was not there in this match. So mentally a good result for E.....before next match.

GL with your "guesses" IQMC.....

  sweetchildofmine
     30 May 13 09:28   
seems a fairly decent price, brazil are reportedly going to field a strong side and england are..well

Brazil 2 England 2

Easy game backing odds on chances.
That's 2 from 2 (BHA)

why would a trader lay off at 1-0, when they didnt red out at half time

backing a 1.6 shot and laying off if it hits the front seems a weak strategy

if its a good 1.6 shot and it gets beat its still a good 1.6 shot, and constant
identification of value bets is the best way forward

who said i was trading? it was a moderate bet on at decent odds imo, its amusing to see the aftertiming kenilworth and iquit lining up to snipe, what sad lives you must lead..as i said in the thread its a bet i wouldnt even mind losing bearing in mind its my country playing in brazil

oh and kenilworth ''thats two from two''  yeah, ive been on here for years but ok thats ''two from two''

I've been on the exchanges since flutter (1999 I think) so don't tell
me about how long you have been on here please.

Darlo is, of course. Sweetchildofmine backed Brazil because he
thought it was a good price, simple as that, nor is there anything
wrong with backing a loser, except of course, if your name is
Kenilworth. The backer should remember though, that people in
glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Losers at 2/7 and 4/6 means that
backing odds on shots now requires the OP to back 6 winners to get level!

darlo is, ofcourse correct

Darlo is, of course. Sweetchildofmine backed Brazil because he
thought it was a good price, simple as that, nor is there anything
wrong with backing a loser, except of course, if your name is
Kenilworth. The backer should remember though, that people in
glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Losers at 2/7 and 4/6 means that
backing odds on shots now requires the OP to back 6 winners to get level!


i guess the 36.0, 45.0, and 75.0 winners on the golf recently (as posted pre event on golf forum) would help the balance sheet then dont you think? now just concentrate on your own affairs, theres a good chap 

Post them up, and leave the footie odds on shots
to others, there's a good boy.

post them up? why? youve never posted a bet in your life ffs..now heres a tip, just chill, enjoy betfair and dont let the forum consume you, its bad for the blood pressure

Why post them up? Because they never happened, that's why.
sweetchildofmine, you are a total fake. Don't let the forum
consume me? You post on 40 times a week, and you shouldn't   
have the nerve to say that to anyone. Yes a total fake.lol.

oh dear   really got to you havent i?

if england had won you wouldnt have posted on this thread..nap..you really are everything thats wrong with the forum these days

If England had won I would have posted in capitals, the fact
that you backed Brazil, would have enjoyed an England win, but
got double misery.lol. The best thing you can do now is walk
away from this thread, but you haven't got the common sense to
do that! lol.

why should i? ''man loses bet'' wow hold the back page, kenny youre making an utter fool of yourself as you normally do on every thread you ever post, which coincidentally happens to be every single thread im on, now please go away and stop stalking me, its disturbing

I'm giving you some of the sh!t you have been giving
me for a while. don't like it do you?

and hes back, i wonder if you can take out a betfair injunction for obsessive love sick stalkers?

That's good coming from someone who posts
nearly 30 times a day! Go on sweetchildofmine
(nice name)make an even bigger fool than you
already are. lol.

scom posts a lot ken , wheras the only 2 you posted last season were your nap of shef utd at 2/5 v hartlepool , now that really was a shocker ken and stoke to draw somewhere , which came in , but you forgot to put your bet on  - so your skill on bf is akin to your betting shops - non existant grandad

I'm not interested in you, green army. IQMC has exposed you
a liar and after timer. Go away.

lol 30 posts a day oooh...youve posted 10 times today on this thread alone...ive told you before kenny you just aint my type, failed bookies dont do it for me hth

he can hardly expose me old timer the thread is all about aftertiming - and if you hadn't heard halfwit iquit has admitted to being hejik so he wont be around much longer , shame as i know you had a crush on him before your cataracts turned to smithy - i think of you kenny whenever i see that old man in family guy - how accurate is that

and of course kenny followed hejik around like a lovesick poodle, right up to the point where he had his mental breakdown and surprise surprise hes also slavishly following his other username too

The only one having A breakdown is the op who can't take it that he/they have been exposed as fraudsters.

Of course there is nothing wrong with backing A loser but let the op have A taste of his own medicine.

An aptly named horse for scom;

2.30 ripon imaginary World

DUFC i would not Call backing at 1.6 and then greening up at the first opportunity 'trading'. I would call that giving away profit because the 'trader' feels uncomfortable with money in play. This style of betting will only hinder the roi and ultimately lose money.

Trading to me is making dozens of quick price movement bets every race/match.

Finally, I don't believe in luck and I accept it has no role in winning or losing (long-term)

you girls need to get a room

IQMC - In the BRAZIL game......it did look the type of match the way it was being played that BRAZIL would score.....but having put so much effort into keeping possession 1st half....that the opposition would get a chance to score and might take it.

So when BRAZIL took lead.....there was always a danger in that game that it would go to 1-1, and may well finish 2-2. Any team working so hard 1st half .....in such conditions .....may well falter 2nd half....and that is how E got their chances which they took very well.

So....you might view it as GIVING AWAY PROFIT laying home team at 1-0 to secure a profit.....but as it finished 2-2.....in this case such a lay decision would have been proven to be "correct" on that match.

On balance the initial BACK on BRAZIL at 1.65 odds was a very good decision by SCOM as an initial bet. IMO If he/she kept that bet , then IMO they were making a mistake on THAT GAME.........but in long run their initial bet was a good bet based on BRAZIL being likely to dominate from the start.

LUCK does exist IQMC.......and ENGLAND's LUCK held up 1st half.....otherwise they would have been hammered. You might say it was down to their "good" defence.....but IMO was down to poor execution on opportunities created by BRAZIL. Had they been playing ARGENTINA ......BRAZIL would not have missed such chances....but it was only ENGLAND....so they were careless on finishing.

GL with bets

what price were brazil at 1-0 ?

Our ken was going to but was quoted £24.50,....declined as he thought £24.38 was the correct price.

donny osmond 04 Jun 13 13:09 
what price were brazil at 1-0 ?


Around 1.16

DFC your last post is aftertiming of the highest order. I think I explained it perfectly - the downside to greening up at the earliest opportunity. I am not going to discuss it further but it is certainly not 'trading'.

England may have had what you call 'luck' in Brazil but there is no 'luck' in making a profit betting (long-term). Maybe I should have highlighted the long-term bit previously. Reading your post again, what has missing chances got to do with 'luck'? Part & parcel of the game and just one minor detail in a long list of bets to achieve a profit -- or in your case, loss.

'Luck' only comes into your thinking if you are overstaking or have no edge. Not having a dig but your inability or reluctance to learn is quite confusing. I can except it with SCOM & his alter egos as they are clearly never going to win, but you seem like you want to win. Regards

aggh Tommy you should have let the OP answer that one

hejik you're using the same old hackneyed phrases, smilies and acting just like when you had your original breakdown , and when you were banned with that other name which i forget, just calm down, i dont want to see my little jester disappear again

IQMC ....I already said that "trader" was wrong word for me to use....


See my post of

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"Trader" might be wrong word......but nevertheless BRAZIL took the lead and if he backed 1.65 as  VALUE back initially, then ,when goes 1-0 ,lays some of profit on BRAZIL off to go all green in match market .......leads to profit.
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If you check my thread re BRAZIL match.......you will see from my bets that I recognised that my initial lay on DRAW/DRAW may well be hit on watching 1st half....so I layed 0-0 and backed 1-1 / 2-2 and 3-3...... I believed a goal would come form BRAZIL , but recognised they had expended a great deal of energy 1st half.....and E could get back into match and so my bets reflected my HT opinion on match...

So i did not AFTERTIME the view that a 1-0 lead was a dodgy lead for BRAZIL....it was based on the action I took at HT on bets to address that distinct possibility. Those bets are shown on thread.



You can get some runs of what I would call BAD LUCK in football......as well as runs of GL........but sometimes the runs of BAD LUCK are long ones and I agree that OVER STAKING is when you can be severely punished for such staking when hit by a long run of BAD LUCK!

Having experienced both a long run of GL....getting to about £20,000 in profit from £2,000....then betting on European Championship matches and WC matches and GETTING IT WRONG on such game types, compounded by OVERSTAKING, I know I had only myself to blame. BAD LUCK never really came into the losing run.....However, BAD LUCK still exists IMO and it does not always even itself out......Some odd things can happen in matches....look at Liverpool player who scores a good goal in game....then goes doolally by hand balling in box to give a penalty....then BITES opponent later in match !!!! For one player to behave oddly in match is what can effect a bet and LUCK does come into it.

Anyway .....you seem to know enough about the game to go against the grain.....and make a profit ...so wd.....hope your run continues.

Cheers the noooooooooooooooooooo

DFC thankyou for the kind words, I'm not saying my way is the only way but at least you won't blow bank after bank betting level stakes, using sensible % of bank and being patient. I hope you turn it around but sorry to say, very unlikely due to your scatter gun approach and poor bank management. You have to forget the past (20k) and concentrate on how you can improve the future IMO. But who am I to give advice? I hope you find your way.

Back to the point of 'trading' the Brazil game. Backing Brazil at 1.6 & trading out at 1-0 @1.16 is the equivalent of backing a 1.36 shot. Why not just bet Brazil to score first at better odds and watch it down the pub?

no-ones taking you seriously halfwit , you admitted you made up the denmark story (as if) and that you are hejik - a word to the mods and you're banned stalky so zip it

SCOM you have had many words to the mods and I will always be here

Goodbye

paranoia will destroy ya

lies HAVE destroyed you

says multi banned user hejik