It can be done

Has all the makings of a great thread.
Can't wait to hear more.
Not by any chance going to reveal exactly how perhaps ?
Didn't think so.
So once again we'll have to suffer from selected results being posted up to substantiate " supposed" super strike rates and earnings.
Same old.

Btw I wouldn't expect you or anybody to reveal how they achieve their successes.
So why post up claims that you cannot, by the nature of the beast, verify, without giving your edge away.
Totally pointless and to be frank, totally ****ish.

FAFH, I will be posting my bets before they run, so this is the verification.
The bets I make are a result of many years of experience and many hours of hard work put in on a daily basis (more than the average full-time job).  Posting them will not reveal my edge.
Although I will make more money taking advised prices, I will calculate profits based on BSP, to prove that this is a fair test.

350 Newbury
Hototo
1pt win

I'm on the edge of my seat.

FINE AS FROG HAIR     13 Jul 12 23:19 
Btw I wouldn't expect you or anybody to reveal how they achieve their successes.
So why post up claims that you cannot, by the nature of the beast, verify, without giving your edge away.
Totally pointless and to be frank, totally ****ish.

totally pointless , yet you nearly tripped over your keyboard to get the first two posts in.

Not really dlarssonf.
Just at the right place at the right time.
You have some sort of problem with that ?.
Btw I neither expect nor care if you or others share my views on this or anything else.
I just post what I feel when I feel.
And I agree I post far too much, and far too pointlessly.
But what the heck, nobody is getting killed by what I do.

First selection is in a 24-runner sprint on soft/heavy

Gotta like your style, Onlyfools!

Good luck with this.

you're in a no win situation Fools, you'll be mocked if you lose and dispised if you win

oh and gl I hope you win

To be fair this forum is all but dead so threads like this are needed if nothing more than to add some form of debate. That's if they carry on and not stop after a few losers.

Very true, buzzer.

Any forums alive and thriving buzz ?

giss a clue to one  - cheers

OnlyFoolsAndHorsesWork Can you say what your strike rate is?

OnlyFoolsAndHorsesWork.Can you say what money you place on each horse?

OnlyFoolsAndHorsesWork. If you are making eighty thousand pounds can i be your best friend please.

Max
If he is making approx 7 grand a month and that represents 7 points a mth, then he must be betting at 1000 pounds a point ?
Heavy hitting indeed for the average punter.
But of course you can obviously follow him putting on much lower amounts of money.
Best of luck.

Jul 14, 2012 -- 4:00AM, FINE AS FROG HAIR wrote:

Not really dlarssonf.Just at the right place at the right time.You have some sort of problem with that ?.Btw I neither expect nor care if you or others share my views on this or anything else.I just post what I feel when I feel.And I agree I post far too much, and far too pointlessly.But what the heck, nobody is getting killed by what I do.

Well, technically everytime you post you're using energy, so every pointless post is killing the planet, and probably your kids in the future, if you really wish to analyse it.

I disagree about the person that said anyone that posts up a successful system will be shot down. I think if somebody with a good attitude did that they'd be revered. Problem with the OP is he comes across as a bit of an arrogant c*ck: his user name, ''watch and learn, 80k,'' ect.

Ah, sorry, Fine. Thought the quote was from the OP. It's late and I should be tucked up in bed.

Yep JC my carbon footprint on here is far too large I agree.

JC1326 : Well, technically everytime you post you're using energy, so every pointless post is killing the planet, and probably your kids in the future, if you really wish to analyse it.

Sorry, as much as I don't want to comment on this, I have to. Yes please I would "really wish to analyse it".

You can start by stating exactly why posting on the internet has any possible chance of killing Earth and future generations. Please be precise.

I'll go second.

Frog : Yep JC my carbon footprint on here is far too large I agree.

How large is it Frog? Please be specific. If you are concerned about it why don't you reduce it, serious question that. What would the consequences of reducing it be?

I disagree about the person that said anyone that posts up a successful system will be shot down. I think if somebody with a good attitude did that they'd be revered. Problem with the OP is he comes across as a bit of an arrogant c*ck: his user name, ''watch and learn, 80k,'' ect.

And yes I agree with that bit of your post JC :)

Apologies, I do not mean to come across as arrogant, although yes my post may seem that way.
I bet £1k win on most bets, although I sometimes bet each way if the price/runners etc is right.


520 Stratford
Bobowen
1pt win

Another possible bet later on.  Will post early afternoon if there is.

OnlyFoolsAndHorsesWork. I have been told "catch the fire" is going to try again. After connections did their money last time it ran.and its in the 5.20 stratford.

Jul 14, 2012 -- 8:24PM, Trevh wrote:

JC1326 : Well, technically everytime you post you're using energy, so every pointless post is killing the planet, and probably your kids in the future, if you really wish to analyse it.Sorry, as much as I don't want to comment on this, I have to. Yes please I would "really wish to analyse it".You can start by stating exactly why posting on the internet has any possible chance of killing Earth and future generations. Please be precise.I'll go second.

Everything we do on the Internet uses energy, like sending an email or doing a Google search, so I just assume posting a message on here does as well.

More energy used results in environment suffering, the full effects of which will surely be felt by today's children.

GL with thread.

5.20 Stratford is a CONDITIONAL J's H/C HURDLE race.......on GOOD going, something we have not had much of recently.

So 2 reasons why this race is a tricky one.

BOBOWEN won a CHASE race on SOFT........and today is a totally different race type and conditions. So has to be a doubt re this one winning.

Would not be surprised if a high odds winner comes in.

KUSADASI win and FEEL THE FORCE EW , WITH  rank outsider MARASSED EW as well would be the ones I woukd guess at ! 1 pt/ 0.50 pt ew/ 0.50 pt EW.

Some interesting views there on the 520. 
Max, sounds like connections are just chasing on Catch The Fire
DFC, I hope you get some e/w money :)


Further bet:

235 Fairyhouse
Parliament Square
1pt win

An odds on shot in a maiden.  I'm sure I'll be getting a bit of abuse if that one loses.

OnlyFoolsAndHorsesWork. I dont follow other peoples tips as a rule, the girl friend tipped me this last time it ran a week before the race. i told her it does not look as though it stands any kind of chance.But on the day remembering the trainer is a canny welshman, horse running on a welsh track money going on i decided it could be on the job so i placed a small win and place bet.

OnlyFoolsAndHorsesWork. Anyway i hope your horse comes in first. And good on you for sticking your neck out.

Max

Looking at the market on here it looks like connections are laying it.

JC1326 : Everything we do on the Internet uses energy, like sending an email or doing a Google search, so I just assume posting a message on here does as well.

More energy used results in environment suffering, the full effects of which will surely be felt by today's children.

You haven't been precise JC. Please explain how using energy results in the environment suffering exactly - this will probably involve MMGW theory. I'll debunk the myths after. Presumably you think we would all be better off if all energy production was ceased for the sake of the children?

WD on a very good winner....won well....I lost£47 on race....but still ahead

Onlyfoolsandhorseswork

Well done - i imagine i work along similar lines to yourself.Will you be doing any laying??

Onlyfoolsandhorseswork well done, I did catch the fire for a place.

Well done max - looks like the info was correct

Jul 15, 2012 -- 10:33AM, Trevh wrote:

JC1326 : Everything we do on the Internet uses energy, like sending an email or doing a Google search, so I just assume posting a message on here does as well.More energy used results in environment suffering, the full effects of which will surely be felt by today's children.You haven't been precise JC. Please explain how using energy results in the environment suffering exactly - this will probably involve MMGW theory. I'll debunk the myths after. Presumably you think we would all be better off if all energy production was ceased for the sake of the children?

Have a read on the Internet, Trevh. I'm not a scholar on the subject and can't be bothered doing the research for you.

I think less pointless posting on an Internet forum wouldn't be the worst way to save energy.

Hototo -1
Parliament Square +0.46
Bobowen +1.09

This challenge is calculated at BSP minus 5% com.  I took an early price on Bobowen and made over half a point extra, but for the sake of this challenge, the profit was +1.09.

Running total:  +0.55 points

Ok, mate. Fair enough !

Good luck !

Have a read on the Internet, Trevh. I'm not a scholar on the subject and can't be bothered doing the research for you.

I think less pointless posting on an Internet forum wouldn't be the worst way to save energy.

So in other words you don't know what you're talking about but have accepted that using energy is bad? I've done more research on the matter than you could imagine.

I'm trying to tell you that posting on the internet will not have any effect on the environment or childrens futures. Turning the energy sources off on the other hand would have drastic consequences. Hope you agree, not being clever, just trying to help people see through MMGW propaganda.

You probably have done more research, but I still think I'll err on the side of caution and switch my lights off when I'm not in the room

Good, it's only sensible not to waste energy, but it sure won't have the slightest effect on the climate, or save the planet and the children. :)

Trev h

"I've done more research on the matter than you could imagine."

You sound like a right laugh !

Jul 16, 2012 -- 6:49AM, Trevh wrote:

Good, it's only sensible not to waste energy, but it sure won't have the slightest effect on the climate, or save the planet and the children. :)

how doesnt that have effect o the climate? surely more energy means more co2 emission. which reasults in the green house emission. the fact that global warming doesnt negate the mechanism of global warming due to green house gases.

^which reasults in the green house effect

ops let me post it again
how doesnt that have effect o the climate? surely more energy means more co2 emission which reasults in green house effect. the fact that global warming isnt happening quickly doesnt negate the mechanism of global warming due to green house gases.

Henok, rather than hijacking this thread (sorry OP) please take a look at the solar panel thread.

It sounds like you believe essential CO2 is harmful, evil, and causing man made warming. It isn't and it doesn't. There is no signal in global climate data with established causality to human carbon dioxide.

You sound like a right laugh ! yep, I could just lie down and have my belly tickled whilst being shafted by CO2 tax, but I'd rather not :D

You sound like a right laugh ! yep, I could just lie down and have my belly tickled whilst being shafted by CO2 tax, but I'd rather not

Carbon taxation is just the tip of the iceberg with this global scam

230 Lingfield
Niger
1pt win

OnlyFoolsAndHorsesWork.Hi whats your score to date?

Nice one OFAHW....good call.

well done.

Thank you!

3 from 4:

Hototo -1
Parliament Square +0.46
Bobowen +1.09
Niger +1.74

This challenge is calculated at BSP minus 5% com.  I took an early price on Bobowen and made over half a point extra, but for the sake of this challenge, the profit was +1.09.

Running total:  +2.29 points

OnlyFoolsAndHorsesWork. Is there no selection today?

Max, there were no selections yesterday.

There is one today, small possibility of another later on.

505 Ascot
Fluctuate
1pt win

OnlyFoolsAndHorsesWork. Good luck today. Do you think you could let us know when you have no selection please.

cant win them all as you well know

Max, yes, I'll try and post if there are no selections.

3 from 5:

Hototo -1
Parliament Square +0.46
Bobowen +1.09
Niger +1.74
Fluctuate -1


This challenge is calculated at BSP minus 5% com.  I took an early price on Bobowen and made over half a point extra, but for the sake of this challenge, the profit was +1.09.

Running total:  +1.29 points

730 Haydock
Dawn Gale
1pt win

300
Caravel
1pt win

Another possible bet later on.  Will post early afternoon.

I am going to comment on your selection today. His jumping is a bit dodgy over hurdles, and he is going over fences for the first time today. Its a no no for me. But good luck to you anyway.

3 from 7:

Hototo -1
Parliament Square +0.46
Bobowen +1.09
Niger +1.74
Fluctuate -1
Dawn Gale -1
Caravel -1



This challenge is calculated at BSP minus 5% com.  I took an early price on Bobowen and made over half a point extra, but for the sake of this challenge, the profit was +1.09.

Running total:  -0.71 points

1 more today:

550 Tipperary
Pique Sous
1pt win

Max, you did well to steer clear.

Over a week in and posting a slight loss.  No need to panic, It's all about the long-run!

Good luck.

nothing today

Thanks

nothing today

Thanks.

I would like to correct an inaccuracy.  Nothing we can do can hurt or destroy the planet. It is quite possible that we can change the environment to the extent that we, and many other species become extinct. But we can do so in the safe knowledge that the planet will be just fine and there will soon be a fine raft of new species to fill the gaps.

Tell me am i missing something here, i thought this was supposed to be a betting forum.

It's a forum for Betfair users.

Then why does it have the heading generalk betting ideot.

Then why does it have the heading general betting ideot.

Yes the forums are betfair users i agree you ar making your comments in the wrong category. I suggest chit chat is the one for you.

Hi there,OnlyFoolsAndHorsesWork How are you today?

max, I am responding to a previous post on this thread.  Putting it on chit chat would be ideotic.

Hello there Catflaqpo. I think it depends on your definition of planet when you say "Nothing we can do can hurt or destroy the planet." certainly in respect of the hurt part.

If you perceive the planet as a big ball of rock with a liquidy centre (like a lindt ball) then I suppose there is some validity to the claim that you can't hurt it, but if you perceive the planet (in earth's case) as an entity that encompasses all living organisms then I believe there is plenty we can do to hurt it.

500 Bath
Taroum
1pt win

U.A., I mean the latter but the planet, in geological timescales, sees species come and go all the time.  When we say harm the planet we actually mean make it less suitable for us but in fact the planet will remain teeming with life even if we disrupt things to the extent that we die out.

Life doesn't have to completely die out though for something to experience "hurt". If I fall over and bang my knee i may well  hurt myself even though the accident will make no difference to my overall longevity.

Point taken, I think the term "hurt" is too vague here

Some russians at one point had a plan to let off a collosal nuke basically filling a cargo ship designed to put so much nasty stuff into the atmosphere (never mind the immediate local effect) that it'd kill off pretty much all complex life. Apparenly if communism fell it would be such a disaster that the planet should not go on without it ... nutters. Thankfully the idea was shelved.

Was a worse idea than "beta" THAT bad.

Ascot 440
Hajras
1pt win

Won well

This thread has been running for nearly 3 weeks now,
so how is it going up to now ?

just what i was thinking tbh

Not showing a profit at the moment.

Just wondered.

OnlyFoolsAndHorsesWork.Im watching but not learning much from you.Though i can say i have a very high strike rate for my selections, you have encouraged me to increase my stakes.Even though I believe you now to be a bumster