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Classic for me please.
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beta is good. that said, i dont understand how long they keep a product as beta. almost every page of the website has some crappy link to a beta or a classic version. it is unprofessional.
Has to be classic by a country mile. Where is the 'my markets' tab on beta? It's too fussy and discourages market-making. Plus the only thing I play--the horses--aren't even on it yet.
put the beta homepage on the classic, then I might stand half a chance of reaching a market in under 5 minutes and having a bet without a migraine
so to wee on your fireworks but we had a vote.
resounding "We hate beta" was the result ( I dont like it either - sorry Betfair.)
But guess what ? they aint listening.
resounding "We hate beta" was the result ( I dont like it either - sorry Betfair.)
But guess what ? they aint listening.
or in English
sorry to urinate on your fireworks but we had a vote.
Several threads have been started about this btw.
sorry to urinate on your fireworks but we had a vote.
Several threads have been started about this btw.
prefer classic by a distance - can't really get used to Beta and i have tried to give it benefit of the doubt , BF should continue with both imo - there are those who may like the new site .
Prefer BF not to keep shoving Beta down our throat all the time though
Prefer BF not to keep shoving Beta down our throat all the time though
The new betfair is coming. All you can do is send them feedback. So far, several points I have made have been incorporated (though some were obvious and were probably supported by others).
All I can do is encourage you to send feedback while it is in beta since once they roll over, changes will be harder to implement.
All I can do is encourage you to send feedback while it is in beta since once they roll over, changes will be harder to implement.
Classic. Beta is terrible, a massive backwards step and just something else to add to Betfairs 'how to drive more customers away' list.
The person responsible for Beta must secretly have a large shareholding in the purple site. I cannot think of any other reasonable explanation.
The person responsible for Beta must secretly have a large shareholding in the purple site. I cannot think of any other reasonable explanation.
This beta is fkin useless , some markets don't show up in it and takes forever to load.
God knows how many floating punters drop by and disappear never to come back. Everyday I have to opt out of this **** because I don't store cookies and the sites too badly coded to remember my preferences once I eventually manage to log in.
God knows how many floating punters drop by and disappear never to come back. Everyday I have to opt out of this **** because I don't store cookies and the sites too badly coded to remember my preferences once I eventually manage to log in.
Classic at the moment. Excuse me but I think it has been sh!t all the time since at least ten years back in time.
Classic. No contest.
Can't even get gruss betfair refresh to work on the beta.
I'm all for improving a site but Beta is a backward step.
Can't even get gruss betfair refresh to work on the beta.
I'm all for improving a site but Beta is a backward step.
It's like Betfair and Microsoft are managed by the same mindset. The internet is full of reviewers saying Windows 8 is fine for the desktop but complete dogs eggs for the Desktop, and leaks saying people WITIHN microsoft are saying they know this, but the "vision" is to push for tablet market, so everyone who is getting a downgrade pushed on them will just have to suffer it. (Basically MS are pushing a tablet friendly interface to get people used to it cross platform and companies to make products for it, but for desktop users it's like tying an arm behind your back, and drives them mad).
Not exactly "the customer is always right". More like "you'll like what we tell you to like, or you're wrong".
Not exactly "the customer is always right". More like "you'll like what we tell you to like, or you're wrong".
I have seen this sort of scenario before. A company spends a colossal sum on a new beta website. The directive comes from very high up in the food chain.
To back down now, scrapping the beta version, would mean loss of face and reputation, plus resignations, at the very top for those who started this beta initiative.
Chances are the beta will be railroaded through regardless of the poor feedback. No turning back. Classic phased out.
When classic goes, a lot of people will be looking for alternatives.
With a 'real money' site; clean, clear and simple is the way to go - which is exactly what classic offers.
At the very least we should be given the option to opt out PERMANENTLY in our personal settings.
To back down now, scrapping the beta version, would mean loss of face and reputation, plus resignations, at the very top for those who started this beta initiative.
Chances are the beta will be railroaded through regardless of the poor feedback. No turning back. Classic phased out.
When classic goes, a lot of people will be looking for alternatives.
With a 'real money' site; clean, clear and simple is the way to go - which is exactly what classic offers.
At the very least we should be given the option to opt out PERMANENTLY in our personal settings.
Classic.
Beta is so bad I actually think I wouldnt bet on this site if that was the only option.
Beta is so bad I actually think I wouldnt bet on this site if that was the only option.
Sorry just re-read this, I meant to say "The internet is full of reviewers saying Windows 8 is fine for the TABLET but complete dogs eggs for the Desktop"
Doh! I remember as I typed that thinking "should I say desktop or something else like "normal PC"" and outfoxed myself :)
Oh and Emden, you're spot on. There's a point where things become internal politics.
It's not so much that they should stagnate, but that change for change's sake is not a good thing, and they should be focused on what the user wants in front of them to achieve their goals with the minimum of effort, obviously with the business side (some internal advertising etc) respected, but not what looks good in a colourful powerpoint presentation to people with MBA's and **** all common sense, and hell mend the user.
Doh! I remember as I typed that thinking "should I say desktop or something else like "normal PC"" and outfoxed myself :)
Oh and Emden, you're spot on. There's a point where things become internal politics.
It's not so much that they should stagnate, but that change for change's sake is not a good thing, and they should be focused on what the user wants in front of them to achieve their goals with the minimum of effort, obviously with the business side (some internal advertising etc) respected, but not what looks good in a colourful powerpoint presentation to people with MBA's and **** all common sense, and hell mend the user.
Classic of course is better for the punter, but I suppose they have to do something with all this PC revenue. Eventually we'll be stuck with Beta as the new classic because all the inconvenient negative feedback will be ignored.
At the moment it's a ruddy pain having to keep renaming my hosts file on a daily basis so I can complete the temporary opt-out process.
At the moment it's a ruddy pain having to keep renaming my hosts file on a daily basis so I can complete the temporary opt-out process.
I've had to amend my bookmarks to http://sports.betfair.com/?optout=true so it's doesn't load the beta crap when I come here. Things like the bookings index don't even show in the beta and if you can manage to navigate to them they don't do the6 odds increments correctly 
it needs reorganising -it's not that hard
how do so many people with IT degrees and Phd's fail to connnect and get things so wrong all the feckin time ?
They should be pushing trollies imo - that's where i'd shove them
how do so many people with IT degrees and Phd's fail to connnect and get things so wrong all the feckin time ?
They should be pushing trollies imo - that's where i'd shove them
I hate beta. Please stop trying to ram it down my throat!
Also hate the 'new' forum and spend far less time on it than I ever used to, but am now chatting in a far better place.
Improvements? Don't make me laugh!
Also hate the 'new' forum and spend far less time on it than I ever used to, but am now chatting in a far better place.
Improvements? Don't make me laugh!
we live in a society where YOU will take whats on offer ,and then in 10 years time (because of the huge costs ) we will improve it.
remember how awful digital TV was (and still is ) on a standard LCD TV ? - 20x worse than analogue - but 'they' made sure that analogue was dead before all the improvements were made
remember how awful digital TV was (and still is ) on a standard LCD TV ? - 20x worse than analogue - but 'they' made sure that analogue was dead before all the improvements were made
remember how awful digital TV was (and still is ) on a standard LCD TV ? - 20x worse than analogue - but 'they' made sure that analogue was dead before all the improvements were made
Digital has taken away the "being able to read the race/game/shot" as you are to far behind for it to matter on the whole.Bring back analogue
Digital has taken away the "being able to read the race/game/shot" as you are to far behind for it to matter on the whole.Bring back analogue
Did anyone else get the research email to compare new pages?
I suppose I will be waiting in vain for someone in I.T. to read this and make the necessary changes!
tinca, send the feedback when you are on pages. I made several comments and some have been incorporated (not to say I was the only one pointing things out).
Imo the site should open automatically in Classic mode, and give us the choice of opting into Beta
Not the other way around
Not the other way around
agreed. am getting fed up being diverted to beta all the time while I'm trying to bet despite continually opting out!
The worst ever up(down)grade to the Betfair interface since it's inception. What on earth are these people thinking of when designing this cr@p?
It's funny, Mrs Shapeshifter works at a law firm that is handling several of the new tech companies emerging in London and Europe.
She has introduced me to several of these companies and their platforms are incredible and innovative. I'm learning every day on how to make an interface user friendly.
I am working right now with my Canadian based brother on a sports-related site that will 'revolutionize' the way punters research sports.
I'm really proud on how people I have tested it with, both here and Canada, can sit down and within minutes feel comfortable with it and, within thirty minutes, are sailing through the site using its potential.
The engineering has been difficult but the platform presentation was really, really easy.
I can't figure out betfair's thinking. They would have a team that would have more tools and abilities than me at my MDF desk and my brother in his flat in Vancouver.
And Muqbil, I hope you are well and happy in your world.
She has introduced me to several of these companies and their platforms are incredible and innovative. I'm learning every day on how to make an interface user friendly.
I am working right now with my Canadian based brother on a sports-related site that will 'revolutionize' the way punters research sports.
I'm really proud on how people I have tested it with, both here and Canada, can sit down and within minutes feel comfortable with it and, within thirty minutes, are sailing through the site using its potential.
The engineering has been difficult but the platform presentation was really, really easy.
I can't figure out betfair's thinking. They would have a team that would have more tools and abilities than me at my MDF desk and my brother in his flat in Vancouver.
And Muqbil, I hope you are well and happy in your world.
Unfortunately SHAPESHIFTER this is why Betfair will never again be the great site it once was.The future is bright the future is Purple.
I am fine thanks, SHAPESHIFTER. Hope you are too? Not enough hours in the day for posting, other than the occasional moan!
Muqbil, I remain a 'survivor' in the world of the exchanges. But other ventures make my grey matter move more positively than the world of pixels that BF offers.
Right now working on producing some products that will help punters in their quest for positive results. Not as challenging as we think since the information is there. Just a matter of offering the depth required to research a play.
Right now working on producing some products that will help punters in their quest for positive results. Not as challenging as we think since the information is there. Just a matter of offering the depth required to research a play.
Betfair please listen to us. WE ALL WANT F*CKING CLASSIC
Beta is worse than a virus! It's really starting to wind me up now! I keep opting out and it keeps forcing itself back! How can I get rid of it?! Looks like I'll be emigrating to Purple at this rate!
My pal who hardly ever bets, left some money in his account and Betfair charged him a fiver for not using it.
So he bet all that was left on England to win on Sunday.
When he told me about it he remarked what an awkward site to use Betfair had become.
He said it used to be so straightforward and now it’s just a mess
Classic, but I preferred the one before that.
So he bet all that was left on England to win on Sunday.
When he told me about it he remarked what an awkward site to use Betfair had become.
He said it used to be so straightforward and now it’s just a mess
Classic, but I preferred the one before that.
I have just given it a fair try. The scrolling is insane. Someone must have been on crack when they thought that was an improvement. In markets with many runners I now can't see the runners at the bottom of the list and my bets at the same time. And I can't believe they think listing matched bets in a different order than the runner list is an improvement? And I don't have order by date ticked, which won't tick anyway. I really defies belief they could come up with something so unusable.
I must admit Beta is not for me either. Classic is much more user friendly. However I have noticed one advantage for some people that Beta presents. When new markets are created from scratch, that appear on Beta version first before they appear on Classic.
'someone must have been on crack when they thought that was an improvement.'
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It`s a no-brainer. In fact, you can feck right off with all of your `Beta` boll0x.
It`s a no-brainer. In fact, you can feck right off with all of your `Beta` boll0x.
Beta is so bad, it suggests that the decision makers at bf haven't got the faintest idea how their exchange is used. Or that they really don't care.
Emden quote:
At the very least we should be given the option to opt out PERMANENTLY in our personal settings."
Well spoken
At the very least we should be given the option to opt out PERMANENTLY in our personal settings."
Well spoken
If Beta died overnight not many would attend the funeral
It doesn't deserve a proper burial. It should be stuck on a raised platform on some godforesaken mountain top to be picked clean by buzzards.
The whole site is a mess now, there are too many options which slow everything down.
I can't see why anyone would refer the new site, I soon changed back to classic.
Don’t Betfair understand that people come on here to bet, not pee about trying to understand what everything is for and find their way around.
Why don’t they just leave it alone?
They can reduce the commission if they've got money to throw away.
I can't see why anyone would refer the new site, I soon changed back to classic.
Don’t Betfair understand that people come on here to bet, not pee about trying to understand what everything is for and find their way around.
Why don’t they just leave it alone?
They can reduce the commission if they've got money to throw away.
Well it seems the general concensus is Beta is cr@p.Don't suppose anyone at Betfair is listening though!
I'm Sick of opting out.
Either go with Beta and watch the migration to purple.
Or swallow your pride and scrap the Beta farce NOW!!
Either go with Beta and watch the migration to purple.
Or swallow your pride and scrap the Beta farce NOW!!
More options very useful on classic.....where is it on beta.
Rules very useful on classic..........where is it on beta.
Scroll down "hides" vital info.
My bets confused when switching between markets.ie shows 3 1/2 market bets as well as my 4 1/2 on same page.Please keep them separate.
Sometimes red figs AND green figs don't show at all but reappear when you switch to a different market and then switch back again.
Logging in for offers,competitions etc.....OK.....BUT,BUT,BUT, sometimes have to log out again and then log in to reach the site main page.
Don,t think it is anything to do with my equipment.......ALL NEW and top spec.
Prefer classic but i am still trying to cope with beta.Speed is vital BUT not able to do so on beta.
Rules very useful on classic..........where is it on beta.
Scroll down "hides" vital info.
My bets confused when switching between markets.ie shows 3 1/2 market bets as well as my 4 1/2 on same page.Please keep them separate.
Sometimes red figs AND green figs don't show at all but reappear when you switch to a different market and then switch back again.
Logging in for offers,competitions etc.....OK.....BUT,BUT,BUT, sometimes have to log out again and then log in to reach the site main page.
Don,t think it is anything to do with my equipment.......ALL NEW and top spec.
Prefer classic but i am still trying to cope with beta.Speed is vital BUT not able to do so on beta.
Classic, although I would ideally like Betfair circa 2001.
For the last 10 years it has become gradually more cluttered and siginificantly slower.
For the last 10 years it has become gradually more cluttered and siginificantly slower.
I agree with winningmoney there, it's certainly not as good as it was when I first joined.
http://corporate.betfair.com/about-us/board-profiles.aspx
sack them all
sack them all
The BBC recently changed their homepage to a beta version which was a massive step in the wrong direction. they opened a similar thread for comments which were even more resoundingly against the changes than those on here. After a few months with thousands of negative comments guess what..... the beta version went live a few months ago with absolutely no regard for the consensus. I wonder what's going to happen on here.
The difference here though is that the BBC's revenues did not depend on beta being rejected.
The difference here though is that the BBC's revenues did not depend on beta being rejected.
Is there any way of opting out of Beta for good, so my user name knows that I don't want the Beta version?
Beta is another modern blight on society - a little bit like automated nuisance phone calls
I popped over to beta today for a short trip....my god it is dreadful.
I didn't hang about for long in there but the main thing I noticed was the size of the text......am I alone in finding the price-boxes barely legible on a laptop? No doubt it looks smashing on a 30'' widescreen monitor that the IT boffins were obviously using when they developed it, but on a standard laptop it's bl00dy awful.
I didn't hang about for long in there but the main thing I noticed was the size of the text......am I alone in finding the price-boxes barely legible on a laptop? No doubt it looks smashing on a 30'' widescreen monitor that the IT boffins were obviously using when they developed it, but on a standard laptop it's bl00dy awful.
classic for me. I rarely go anywhere near the beta nonsense.
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