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wanderer1
01 Feb 12 22:55
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If I am trading and after 34 trades with a £1 stake I have made £3.15 with commission deducted. That works out at an average of £9.26 profit every 100 trades.

If the average odds that I open at are 8.28 my maximum potential loss on each trade is £7.28.

What profit am I making?

I mean how many points or percentage am I up?
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Report kenilworth February 1, 2012 11:41 PM GMT
Why do you need to know ?
Report DFCIRONMAN February 1, 2012 11:42 PM GMT
100 intial risk - £1 x 7.28 x 100 = stakes risked £728

ROI = 9.26 divide by 726 = 0.0127548 %

Some may argue differently re the "RISK"........
Report DFCIRONMAN February 1, 2012 11:55 PM GMT
Sorry 1.27548 % ROI
Report tobermory February 1, 2012 11:56 PM GMT
Personally i would call the  £7.28 the stake and the return £10.43 ,so the profit is 43.26%

As said though , people have different ideas about it
Report wanderer1 February 2, 2012 5:55 PM GMT
Sorry, but where does the £10.43 come from?
Report tobermory February 2, 2012 7:19 PM GMT
You biggest Red = £7.28 + £3.15 profit = £10.43

IMO you have 'invested' £7.28 in the market and returned £10.43

Your ROI is 143.26% .
Report U.A. February 2, 2012 8:14 PM GMT
Ooh i'm confused tobermory. Isn't £3.15 what you've made after 34 trades but 7.28 what you could lose for each individual trade.

Personally, i'd just look at my bf balance and convert my profit into a percentage from that.
Report tobermory February 2, 2012 8:24 PM GMT
Oh i read it that he was was making all those bets in just 1 market

If he is talking about 34 different markets, with £7.28 risked on each, then his profit is 1.27%
Report wanderer1 February 2, 2012 8:51 PM GMT
Is 1.27% enough to make it worthwhile?
Report tobermory February 2, 2012 9:13 PM GMT
It would be if you were betting larger sums.

Risk £728 per bet and every 34 markets you'd make £300 . If you could bet on several hundred markets per month then 1.27% profit would be a decent living.

Though as you'd be wise to bet only a small % of your bank then you'd need 40k or so to be betting those sort of sums on individual markets without risking too much.

So ideally you'd want to have a higher  % edge.Particulary as building up from small sums would take very much longer at 1.27% than it would at 4%

Anyway the main problem is 34 markets doesn't really tell you if you are likely to return 1.27% on top of your stakes long term . You might make a loss if you tried it over 150 markets, or maybe you'd be 5% up. I think you need to trial it for longer to get a better idea.
Report wanderer1 February 2, 2012 9:25 PM GMT
Thank you tobermory I realise 34 trades is a small sample but it is a promising start, it is the most promising line of enquiry that I have come up with for ages.

About 20% of the events in the sport I am concentrating on are suitable and only a handful of events per day so it may take a little while until I know for sure if it is a goer.
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