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properpunter
14 Nov 11 16:48
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Seen many staking plans, say you should increase by 1% etc per day or per bet.
Do you think it's better to have a target bank amount running along side your actual bank, so you know that you are above or below it.

Or does this encourage chasing, or over betting ?
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Report the darkside November 14, 2011 5:49 PM GMT
no
Report coolhand November 14, 2011 5:55 PM GMT
no
Report Contrarian November 14, 2011 6:31 PM GMT
no
Report postmannick November 14, 2011 7:21 PM GMT
can i have tea with 2 sugars please
Report TheInvestor2 November 14, 2011 11:08 PM GMT
Although what % you make per day and per bet are important metrics, they shouldn't be used as targets.

I used to have targets like this, increasing my balance by 6% per month, equating to about 100% per year compounded. All this is good for is getting yourself to 'work harder' if things are moving along too slowly, when you should be aiming for optimal results all the time anyway (while keeping the rest of your life in balance, which is the tricky bit).
Report frimpong November 14, 2011 11:30 PM GMT
i tend to have a target top reach but leads to dangerous over staking if i lose a few bets in a row
Report catflappo November 14, 2011 11:56 PM GMT
It's  pretty pointless to set a profit based target because your profits are determined by the outcome of sporting events over which you have no influence.  If you set yourself targets they should be something that you can actually control/achieve
Report Trevh November 15, 2011 12:36 AM GMT
Catflippo you've nicked my post, so I'll just say...



no
Report I am the one and only223 November 15, 2011 12:43 AM GMT
no no and thrice no

There are no guarantees even if you have an edge.
Report Trevh November 15, 2011 12:49 AM GMT
But I'll add some more.

Properpunter, obviously you want to make money and not lose it, so you need to monitor very closely your daily/weekly/monthly results to determine where you have an edge (or not).

Like Cat says, you can't control outcomes of events but you can control the price that you offer or take from which all your profit or loss will come, depending entirely on your matched price / true price.
Report TheInvestor2 November 15, 2011 3:10 AM GMT
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It's  pretty pointless to set a profit based target because your profits are determined by the outcome of sporting events over which you have no influence.  If you set yourself targets they should be something that you can actually control/achieve


You can control the profits, in that you can be either more or less active.

If I was 'forced' to make more money, I could by covering lots of low level events I currently don't. I choose not to do so, as I prefer to take the time off if my expected profit drops belows a certain threshold.

Tomorrow I'll be betting on the internationals. Wednesday and Thursday there's not much going on, so I probably won't be active. I'd certainly be able to make a profit (or at least have a profit expectancy), if I did do it.

In times of poor profitability, I find myself more willing to do the low level stuff to maintain a profit.

A bit of short-termism on my part.
Report catflappo November 15, 2011 7:20 AM GMT
I see, so you would play the low level events until you make enough to be lazy again?  I hadnt thought of that. It does make sense, in some cases, to reduce your effort based on results  - in fact i do it myself.
Report racingguru November 15, 2011 9:27 AM GMT
Can have a target for a year but short term targets in gambling are ridiculous. I am to at least double my bank every year but really I don't look at it any stage thinking I'm ahead or behind schedule. If there's a month left of my season and i'm nowhere near as has happened once I do get worried but you just got to treat bets on their individual merits. Forcing the issue will more likely lead to higher losses.
Report the man November 15, 2011 10:26 AM GMT
I set a target. Been on Betfair since the start and fairly consistently make 1-2% profit on turnover per year. Increasing turnover should increase my profits but it has to be done wisely so that a) there is little danger of my bank being wiped out or seriously eroded and b) not too much money is staked on markets that are weak and a danger of being picked off when I've mis-priced but not taking a decent bet when I've correctly priced.

That said, if I don't reach my target I'm not going to worry about it as long as I'm reasonably profitable
Report the darkside November 15, 2011 6:24 PM GMT
i set a target not to lose more than £1000 a week
Report TheInvestor2 November 15, 2011 6:36 PM GMT
Yeah that's right cat, it's also the case that if things are going well, I tend to think more about things like improving software, hardware, planning and other longer term stuff.

If things are going poorly, I think more about making money right now, which means spending more time trading and less time on strategy.

I trade (manually) about 40 hours a week. On top of that I spend a fair bit of time on analysis and improvements of various kinds, and the relatively new botting project (in collaboration with others).
Report FINE AS FROG HAIR November 15, 2011 9:58 PM GMT
I really only read this forum now in the hope of occasionally coming across a little gem such as darkside's post.
Thank you, whoever you are, for lighting up my day.
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