Yep you guessed it I am going to give this challenge another attempt. I won't go through it all but I certainly learnt a lot from my previous attempt - emotion, staking, chasing, markets to focus on, not getting side-tracked, not spending too much time on here and learning to keep a level head about daily targets.
Starting bank: £2.5K Staking guide: 1 to 3% liability per bet Selections: Based on specific horse and greyhound systems Markets: Horse racing, greyhounds and occasionally other markets
To reduce the hours I spend on here the majority of the betting is going to be done based on the two specific systems I have created (although tbh the greyhound one is still wip). Some may laugh at this but quite simply I found myself spending way too much time on here playing different markets, pre and ir betting, reading, researching etc that it quite simply wore me out.
Also so I don't get too involved on here they will be (in the main) placed automatically using software. To keep a 'fun' element in all of this .... each week I will use 1% of the bank to have a quick fire mini-challenge.
Will update p&l each day and perhaps post up a bet occasionally.
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So, are you up? Are you down? Are you shaking it all around? Please update... (It'll break poor little Paul's heart if you leave without saying something about your exploits over the last month!)
Not me Undern! You! We thought you'd left us...So, are you up? Are you down? Are you shaking it all around? Please update... (It'll break poor little Paul's heart if you leave without saying something about your exploits over the last month!)
Cooee - having fun posting up on the Lay Comp over on the horse race forum and each day have my bot set up for the horse and greyhound lays ...
... did fiddle around with the greyhound lay criteria but ended up going back to my original one as it did work well.
Doing quite nicely thanks ...
Cooee - having fun posting up on the Lay Comp over on the horse race forum and each day have my bot set up for the horse and greyhound lays ...... did fiddle around with the greyhound lay criteria but ended up going back to my original one as it did
wow up and down like a yoyo here! im guessing thats due to you not having a proper strategy, majority of these greyhound lays guesses i presume? as you can't surely form a strong opinion in all those races.
I have subscribed to a laying system for the year that is showing a 93% strike rate this month, with results proofed on racing-index.com. So far ive made just over £1300 risking just £100 on each lay.
The difference i see between the one im subscribed to and your lays seems to be firstly the volume, you have an extremely high volume system here! and secondly i see no consistency in your system?
wow up and down like a yoyo here! im guessing thats due to you not having a proper strategy, majority of these greyhound lays guesses i presume? as you can't surely form a strong opinion in all those races. I have subscribed to a laying system for th
Yep the greyhound lays are complete guesses and I am also guessing on the Lay Comp on the horse racing forum where I have gone around 16pts profit in 17 days successive lays on the horses and not forgetting tightfisted 6mths table on his blog where I am top of the table for the Anyone Fancy a Lay thread .....
.... yep defn need your help NOT
Yep the greyhound lays are complete guesses and I am also guessing on the Lay Comp on the horse racing forum where I have gone around 16pts profit in 17 days successive lays on the horses and not forgetting tightfisted 6mths table on his blog where I
top of table on a forum full of beginners, or top of table on a pro tipping proofing site, hmm no which one id rather follow. 16 points in 17 days isn't much
top of table on a forum full of beginners, or top of table on a pro tipping proofing site, hmm no which one id rather follow.16 points in 17 days isn't much
Just had a look at the stats on your pro service that you are trying to spam on here ...
... he is around 19pts up this month from 43 selections ...
Me: 16pts in last 17 lays or so
Your Pro: 5pts in last 17 lays (and 19pts up for Feb).
Hmmmm I know which I follow
Just had a look at the stats on your pro service that you are trying to spam on here ...... he is around 19pts up this month from 43 selections ...Me: 16pts in last 17 lays or soYour Pro: 5pts in last 17 lays (and 19pts up for Feb).Hmmmm I know which
i dont care about points, its about profit. If you put it in to points im 76 points up to 1 point level stakes, but i stake to a fixed liability so irrelevant for me how many points its made.
Hes had a run over over 30 consecutive lays.
And is far more consistent than what your profits are showing.
i dont care about points, its about profit. If you put it in to points im 76 points up to 1 point level stakes, but i stake to a fixed liability so irrelevant for me how many points its made.Hes had a run over over 30 consecutive lays. And is far mor
i dont care about points, its about profit. If you put it in to points im 76 points up to 1 point level stakes, but i stake to a fixed liability so irrelevant for me how many points its made.
Hes had a run over over 30 consecutive lays.
And is far more consistent than what your profits are showing.
i dont care about points, its about profit. If you put it in to points im 76 points up to 1 point level stakes, but i stake to a fixed liability so irrelevant for me how many points its made.Hes had a run over over 30 consecutive lays. And is far mor
Giddy, I think many of the people on here are as sharp as undern and can spot a hopeless spammer a mile off. We know that the very last thing a real pro would do is set up a winning tipping service which would compromise their own betting.
You have shamefully tried to belittle undern but his success is real and yours isn't and we all know it.
Giddy,I think many of the people on here are as sharp as undern and can spot a hopeless spammer a mile off. We know that the very last thing a real pro would do is set up a winning tipping service which would compromise their own betting. You have
catfleppo - perhaps you should check yesterday's selections I posted up on the Anyone Fancy a Lay thread before you suggest I am in fantasy land ....
Here is yesterday's result's by the way .... I assure you things are going well ... and I have even learnt to spend less time on here and a £900 (losing) bet on a greyhound race a while back snapped me into playing using sensible stakes compared to the bank ...
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£) Greyhound Racing / Swin 22nd Feb : A6 480m 22-Feb-12 19:48 22-Feb-12 19:49 18.31 Greyhound Racing / Swin 22nd Feb : A6 480m 22-Feb-12 18:28 22-Feb-12 18:32 21.58 Greyhound Racing / Hove 22nd Feb : A6 515m 22-Feb-12 18:11 22-Feb-12 18:15 13.73 Greyhound Racing / BVue 22nd Feb : A2 470m 22-Feb-12 14:18 22-Feb-12 14:21 33.84 Greyhound Racing / Newc 22nd Feb : A3 480m 22-Feb-12 13:12 22-Feb-12 13:14 4.83 Greyhound Racing / HGrn 22nd Feb : A4 480m 22-Feb-12 13:04 22-Feb-12 13:07 33.84 Greyhound Racing / Newc 22nd Feb : A3 480m 22-Feb-12 12:58 22-Feb-12 12:59 9.67 Greyhound Racing / HGrn 22nd Feb : A4 480m 22-Feb-12 12:47 22-Feb-12 12:49 38.68 Greyhound Racing / HGrn 22nd Feb : A5 480m 22-Feb-12 12:32 22-Feb-12 12:33 24.17 Greyhound Racing / Newc 22nd Feb : A2 480m 22-Feb-12 12:27 22-Feb-12 12:28 48.35 Greyhound Racing / Newc 22nd Feb : A2 480m 22-Feb-12 12:12 22-Feb-12 12:16 72.52 Greyhound Racing / HGrn 22nd Feb : A6 480m 22-Feb-12 12:04 22-Feb-12 12:06 72.52 Greyhound Racing / Newc 22nd Feb : A2 480m 22-Feb-12 11:57 22-Feb-12 11:58 -200.00 Greyhound Racing / HGrn 22nd Feb : A6 480m 22-Feb-12 11:48 22-Feb-12 11:51 30.62 Greyhound Racing / Newc 22nd Feb : HC 480m 22-Feb-12 11:42 22-Feb-12 11:44 12.09 Greyhound Racing / Newc 22nd Feb : A5 480m 22-Feb-12 11:28 22-Feb-12 11:30 14.50 Greyhound Racing / HGrn 22nd Feb : A7 480m 22-Feb-12 11:19 22-Feb-12 11:21 72.52 Greyhound Racing / Newc 22nd Feb : A6 480m 22-Feb-12 11:11 22-Feb-12 11:13 -132.08 Greyhound Racing / HGrn 22nd Feb : A8 480m 22-Feb-12 11:03 22-Feb-12 11:05 24.17
Horse Racing Showing 1 - 15 of 15 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£) Horse Racing / Kemp 22nd Feb : 1m3f Hcap 22-Feb-12 19:30 22-Feb-12 19:34 58.02 Horse Racing / Ling 22nd Feb : 7f Hcap 22-Feb-12 17:00 22-Feb-12 17:02 75.50 Horse Racing / Donc 22nd Feb : 3m2f Hunt Chs 22-Feb-12 16:40 22-Feb-12 16:49 65.27 Horse Racing / Punch 22nd Feb : 2m6f Hcap Hrd 22-Feb-12 16:10 22-Feb-12 16:19 16.44 Horse Racing / Ling 22nd Feb : 6f Hcap 22-Feb-12 15:55 22-Feb-12 15:56 24.17 Horse Racing / Ludl 22nd Feb : 2m Hcap Hrd 22-Feb-12 15:40 22-Feb-12 15:45 24.17 Horse Racing / Ling 22nd Feb : 1m2f Hcap 22-Feb-12 14:50 22-Feb-12 15:00 58.02 Horse Racing / Ludl 22nd Feb : 2m5f Sell Hrd 22-Feb-12 14:35 22-Feb-12 14:41 48.35 Horse Racing / Punch 22nd Feb : 2m4f Hrd 22-Feb-12 14:30 22-Feb-12 14:38 48.35 Horse Racing / Donc 22nd Feb : 3m Beg Chs 22-Feb-12 14:25 22-Feb-12 14:31 -60.00 Horse Racing / Ling 22nd Feb : 1m2f Sell Stks 22-Feb-12 14:15 22-Feb-12 14:17 11.60 Horse Racing / Ludl 22nd Feb : 2m Mdn Hrd 22-Feb-12 14:05 22-Feb-12 14:09 20.64 Horse Racing / Donc 22nd Feb : 2m Juv Hrd 22-Feb-12 13:55 22-Feb-12 14:04 77.36 Horse Racing / Ling 22nd Feb : 5f Claim Stks 22-Feb-12 13:45 22-Feb-12 13:46 65.76 Horse Racing / Ludl 22nd Feb : 2m Mdn Hrd 22-Feb-12 13:35 22-Feb-12 13:39 16.92
catfleppo - perhaps you should check yesterday's selections I posted up on the Anyone Fancy a Lay thread before you suggest I am in fantasy land .... Here is yesterday's result's by the way .... I assure you things are going well ... and I have even
heres how you can make over 100k , simply rate 3 horses per race using a good ratings system (top secret), back the top three rated in race, this is what would of happened using my ratings system this last seven days.
heres how you can make over 100k , simply rate 3 horses per race using a good ratings system(top secret), back the top three rated in race, this is what would of happened using my ratings system this last seven days.1/40th account stakes....BSP Ru
when embarking on rating runners in betted events you know you have the midus touch and your work has matured when no matter how long you wait, you never have an unprofitable day.
its been this way for 4 weeks now and I feel ready to embark on my quest pretty soon.
when embarking on rating runners in betted events you know you have the midus touch and your work hasmatured when no matter how long you wait, you never have an unprofitable day.its been this way for 4 weeks now and I feel ready to embark on my quest
i have studied horses and dogs racing for 28 years using machines from sinclair spectrums to pcs, I can admit to failure many times through lack of technology available through mis-conceptions in ratings systems and poor form delevery services to just not having the time to carry on at points in my life, but now I have stumbled in a calculated and unique way into what works well repeatedly, refinement is a matter of course and daily shows more improvement but I cant beleive I am achieving when using betfair prices ROI of 150-200% dependant on track and acing type and I am doing it every day, it would be madness now if I didnt try this out for real !
i have studied horses and dogs racing for 28 years using machines from sinclair spectrums to pcs, I can admit to failure many times through lack of technology available through mis-conceptions in ratings systems and poor form delevery services to jus
When your ROI hovers just above 105% (5% profit) you will dip repeatedy into losing days sandwiched between good days but when you are playing with a large edge plus betting many runners per race its extremely hard not to have a profitable day , it did feel unreal at first but having done it for 4 weeks now as I develop the application making sure the basic settings are as universally the same so as not to contaminate the results, it really is mind blowing how good profit margins can be.
When your ROI hovers just above 105% (5% profit) you will dip repeatedy into losing days sandwiched between good days but when you are playing with a large edge plus betting many runners per race its extremely hard not to have a profitable day , it d
one mechanism that can work in favor for advantaged punters is the fact that betfair prices due too market pressures are forced to have the favorites matched pretty close, this in turn means because they operate at up too 100.5% book, that means a mass of prices must be profitable around the 5-200 BSP , not all but many markets must contain these as bookmakers prices are for favourites so under priced that for betfair too follow them leaves a market bubble beyond! Q.E.D.
one mechanism that can work in favor for advantaged punters is the fact that betfair prices due too market pressures are forced to have the favorites matched pretty close, this in turn means because they operate at up too 100.5% book, that means a m
Yes there was 2 winners on that day, but he told us all to lower liability until early march as patternform is not available until then and he uses that as one of his tools.
No system has a 100% strike rate.
Im in profit this month anyway. The system average £500 per month laying to just £100 liability.
Im now using a bank of 5k laying to liability of £250 on each lay.
Yes there was 2 winners on that day, but he told us all to lower liability until early march as patternform is not available until then and he uses that as one of his tools.No system has a 100% strike rate. Im in profit this month anyway. The system
This is the most pointless thread ever! Why post up just your profit/loss at the end of each day?
Post ALL your lays BEFORE the race.
Your a complete guesser by the looks of it. Your last thread was the same aswell, up and down like a yo-yo with no consistency.
ALSOThis is the most pointless thread ever! Why post up just your profit/loss at the end of each day?Post ALL your lays BEFORE the race. Your a complete guesser by the looks of it. Your last thread was the same aswell, up and down like a yo-yo with
So many trolls on this forum, full of bitter losing gamblers.
Tell you what il start my thread during next week and post my lay bets, il post screen shots of each bet (thats if you can post images on here)
So many trolls on this forum, full of bitter losing gamblers.Tell you what il start my thread during next week and post my lay bets, il post screen shots of each bet (thats if you can post images on here)
Assuredly he's still going. He's just realised this thread isn't worth the constant bother, and he can make more money by keeping his distance and taking it more steadily. Don't know why it took him so long really. Posting up all your bets on a thread is rarely a good thing in the long term.
Assuredly he's still going. He's just realised this thread isn't worth the constant bother, and he can make more money by keeping his distance and taking it more steadily. Don't know why it took him so long really. Posting up all your bets on a threa
Hey Undern, your bot keeps calling up my Bobbin Applet and making lewd comments. I have the evidence of your bot leaving heavy crackling sounds on my phone, so please tell him to stop harrassing my app, or I'll be round there with a big wirecutter...
Hey Undern, your bot keeps calling up my Bobbin Applet and making lewd comments. I have the evidence of your bot leaving heavy crackling sounds on my phone, so please tell him to stop harrassing my app, or I'll be round there with a big wirecutter...