Hills better value than Betfair?

5% on football is a disgrace. I used to think they never altered the market base rate on football because they couldn't give the traders an even better deal but the premium charge removed that obstacle. It's also disgraceful that not a sou of pc3 went towards lowering commission for 5%ers. The premium charge money isn't for use to attract new customers, it's to compensate betfair for the customers they're losing because they allow wholesale fraud.

Try getting your hills accounts up in profit by a few grand and see what happens when your winning there money instead of other punters in the case of an exchange, different set of rules means you get to choose which part of the street you want to land on when they throw you out of hills

Check on the internet and google" punter banned for winning £1000 from bookmaker" happens all the time, at least betfair have a system that allows winning by charging customers relative to there fiscal impact to the eco-system, radical, controversial but non the less ambrosia for bettors

When you factor in commission [forget PC 1,2,3] if you shop around BF is never the best price except some rags in horses for which purple being linked to BF would be just as good if not better given the lower commish. People are price sensitive whatever BF may think about loyalty etc and the exodus is gathering momentum.

Agree with bf_f that bookies do and will close/restrict you but thats relatively easy to get around. Wish I could say BF is the only acc I need but its more like "BF is the only acc I might not need anymore if it continues like this".

I'm not too far from PC1 being at 23% approx so the decision will be made for me this year I presume.

Ive got these for BF price near ko

Blackburn Arsenal 2.12
Aston Villa Newcastle 1.95

Probably some caveat that prices where taken 1 week before the match kicked or something, liquidity figures mean nothing for prem match days

Any serious football punter who bets pre-match only (not looking to trade pre-match) and only plays on betfair is an idiot.

I do this Im not so serious though

no worries.

how does it work then. Hills (or whoever) would only get the call when they were best priced (usually on favourites and hopefully offering value) how long would accounts last?

If you phoned a bookmaker and said £X on Valencia and £Y on the Draw for todays CL would they happily take it?

Again, Pinny don't ban winners, at least not winners on major events, because of the way they set their prices.

I hate the fact that sometimes I act like a walking advert for that firm, but they have their downside for some (Limited in play betting, not many european sports covered, website that only works when the hamster is awake etc).

With regards the Hills thing, didn't they have a best priced faves promo on Soccer recently. I seem to remember actually placing bets in their shops for the first time in years.

I know someone who's been cut to about 75% Lori. Awful firm.

Sorry, it's only $60k on Prem league soccer, but that's pretty huge tbf.

Pinny are a decent firm. Lines are pretty sharp on the whole. Not sure why but they always seem to be short on the NFL  spread I want hence the fact I've only used them a few times in 3 years on NFL. Can't say a bad word about them though.