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THE-REVOLUTIONARY.
22 Sep 11 03:42
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If your betting with money and losing stop betting with money and just paper bet create a spreadsheet and write down your bets that way you don't lose money and you will get more knowledgeable plus  keep going thorugh stats etc and you might pick things up keep trying without real money becuase what is the point of betting with real stakes if your making rushed decisions  just keep practicing  i get frustrated at trying to find systems or a method i know the only to win is use your brain 

friday i went through all the form as i used to do picked out 8 teams beetween prices of 1.25 and one 1.90 only 2 of 8 won that really made me sick and frustrated that i only pick 8 usually im better so i got pissed of for a couple of days but diciced to come back  ;ast night i picked 6 teams teams only 4 out of the 6 won that means im 6 out of my last 14 that is terrible and all these favorites geting beat in football was making me think form means nothing in football


anyway listen to what lordbobbin says i can relate to his advice

if you love sports not betting should have no effect on you at all i mean dont get cuaght up in this trap of its man city v man united  and the whole football forum is betting on i even had a guy messsage me and say he dosnt look at form becuase gambling has a high luck aspect  what a lame excuse and thiers no reason behind his thinking only he wants a quick thrill and all he seems to do is place mug multiple accas on goals and bookings   

most guys on the footy forum are your fun type larger guys

some people wont accept it as they see it as an attack on thier random behavior


and you talk about winning back money dont go that route take my advice paper bet untill you think you have and edge  or is knowledgeable enough  to spot value  think the money you have lost as experimental money

this is what im doing if  within maybe a certain time period  i don't get knowledgeable then ill forget about this betting lark 


remember be good paulme CoolCoolCool

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THE-REVOLUTIONARY.
When: 22 Sep 11 03:44
and theres no value in laying outsiders maybe if your extrememly disipline and remember the prices on here asre way bigger than bookies so your laying horses at higher odds than thier actual real chances of winning especiallly in the american racing a 20-1 shot may go off at 60 on here
By:
THE-REVOLUTIONARY.
When: 22 Sep 11 03:48
as someone said give yourself 6 months paper betting studying sports etc then if you cant find a way stop and do some thing else all this betting stuff can wreck your social life
By:
THE-REVOLUTIONARY.
When: 22 Sep 11 03:57
and also why worry about what other people are doing i see you asking people to post thier bets who gives a monkey weather there betting in thousands winning loads  pro or not  people on here are kind and are helping i can relate to them they say your hopeless a gambling i wouldnt say that as i think thats kind of ignorant and rude but with practice and knowledge you can learn its a learning curve yes its hard but its a learning curve most people start off something not very good and practice and then get good treat betting as a sport jsut pratice you can do it paulme

i have been gulity myself of having the wrong mindset looking for the easy supersystem but none exist the only way i know i can get succesful is use my head about two years ago i was kinda of good at uk horses i had this method where i tried to get a race where a fave or sometimes not a fave had superior looking form to the other horses then look at the trainers and made sure it was trained by a top trainer and all other trainers in the race were averrage or not very i was picking high percentage of winners i didnt follow up as i went down the route of looking for a supersystem once i discovered american australian new zealand racing south africa i wanted to conquer the world  anyway you can do it paulme i am behind you

guys like lordbobbin are not like lots of guys of footy forum hes giving you real advice and his stuff on the us racing is excellent
By:
THE-REVOLUTIONARY.
When: 22 Sep 11 03:59
that should read when a top trainer was running a horse against average trainers like paul nicholls running a horse in  a race without any horses trained by henderson pipe twiston davies etc
By:
THE-REVOLUTIONARY.
When: 22 Sep 11 04:35
im quite introverted so i quess thats why betting appeals to me aswell


altho by posting on this forum it has learnt me stuff
By:
LordBobbbin
When: 22 Sep 11 04:36
Well thanks for the compliments Dev!   I don't think my stock can get higher than it is on this thread, so perhaps I'd better quit the forum while I'm ahead!!
By:
THE-REVOLUTIONARY.
When: 22 Sep 11 06:25
Thinking of giving up the football testing unless i can find away to make things happen in play as i think thats where it is football as i see form as insignificant enough in play is where it is at in football bookmakers are way ahead of punters in the inplay department as they have scouts at games giving them back the info  theres only some games we can get inplay stats for on espn its not in the bookmakers intrest for the info to be there for the more obscure games but the potential in  the future may be there even a subscription service with live stats from a lot more leagues availablr to the punter would be my dream untill then we the football punter will always be in the dark we can watch games but a trader may need quick stats on more than one game you cant look at more than one game at a time untill then we must and also deal with dodgy live streams that may behind a minute but the potential is there i know people that are using this technolgy and finding edges at the moment but my dream is for it to be avalaible for a lot more games


on the us horse racing lord bobbin is right us horse racing has loads of info and potential and as a betting medium i find it better than the uk irish racing i think here in uk we need to get rid of all the handicap races and have a us style claiming system just keep the main handicaps like the ones on this list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_flat_horse_races

same applies to jumps
By:
paulme
When: 22 Sep 11 22:36
thanks for the advice Dev. will have a read through when im less tired fella. i have a "real" job you see Blush
By:
Footiefan111
When: 22 Sep 11 22:40
Paulme how much is youre average stake each bet you place
By:
paulme
When: 22 Sep 11 22:42
hmm well it varies. i tend to have a target to reach. used to bet 100s but got burnt in july so maybe 20-30 quid. im a bit of a mug chaser too though which doesnt help
By:
kenilworth
When: 23 Sep 11 08:40
One of the few honest punters on here it seems.
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 23 Sep 11 09:15
How is it possible to be a dishonest punter on here Ken?
By:
BJT
When: 23 Sep 11 09:21
THE-REVOLUTIONARY.
22 Sep 11 03:44 Joined: 18 Sep 11 | Topic/replies: 125 | Blogger: THE-REVOLUTIONARY.'s blog
and theres no value in laying outsiders maybe if your extrememly disipline and remember the prices on here asre way bigger than bookies so your laying horses at higher odds than thier actual real chances of winning especiallly in the american racing a 20-1 shot may go off at 60 on here


No offense, but if you are going to give advice, at least make it realistic.  If you are seriously suggesting that a bookmaker price represents true odds, and odds being much higher here, then surely backing that 60/1 shot with a 20/1 chance is the advice you are giving?  If it isn't, then you may wish to rethink your point, or at least think about it a first time.
By:
kenilworth
When: 23 Sep 11 09:28
THE REVOLUTIONARY, have you ever used a ''full stop'' (a dot at the
end of a sentence) ?
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 23 Sep 11 10:01
THE REVOLUTIONARY's English Teacher was a Freediver.
By:
kenilworth
When: 23 Sep 11 11:15
.Happy
By:
paulme
When: 23 Sep 11 12:39
shame there isn't more honesty on here kenno
By:
greedkillsmybankagain
When: 23 Sep 11 13:10
paul
and
dev
.
imagine
if
these
two
got
married
and
where
allowed
to
adopt
Cry
By:
paulme
When: 23 Sep 11 14:02
meaning idiot?
By:
paulme
When: 23 Sep 11 14:03
and what the fvck would a sprog adopted to you turn out like? this troglodyte doesnt even know how to use his keyboard FFS
By:
LordBobbbin
When: 23 Sep 11 14:10
If greedkills ever writes a novel then he's going to use up half the world's paper supply in one go.
By:
greedkillsmybankagain
When: 23 Sep 11 14:15
LaughLaughLaughLaugh
whats
a
troglodyte
?
is
that
someone
who
lives
on
the
forum
and
asks
everyone
about
their
life
and
how
they
bet
and
what
way
they
bet
?
there
is
one
of
them
on
the
whats
everyone
won/
lost
thread
on
the
football
forum
.
LaughLaughLaugh
By:
paulme
When: 23 Sep 11 14:15
zzz
By:
THE-REVOLUTIONARY.
When: 24 Sep 11 02:19
GREEDSKILLMYBANK IS A JELOUS MUPPET HOW COME HE BACKED DOWN WHEN I CHALLNEGED HIM TO A WORLD FOOTBALL TIPPING COMPO ENOUGH SAID
By:
paulme
When: 24 Sep 11 02:21
cos he cant tip for s h i t and has never placed a bet is my guess
By:
greedkillsmybankagain
When: 24 Sep 11 12:23
i
dont
bet
on
football
.
its
against
my
religion
.
By:
greedkillsmybankagain
When: 24 Sep 11 12:46
i
will
agree
to
a
world
bowls
compo
instead
.
do
u
accept
div
?
sorry
dev
?
i
will
let
u
consult
with
your
boyfriend
paul
Laugh
on
the
matter
.
By:
paulme
When: 24 Sep 11 13:04
sad
man
By:
Horsedup
When: 24 Sep 11 19:55
Ooohhh paulme. Laugh Have you tried match betting yet, or still can't be bothered to fill out forms?
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 24 Sep 11 21:34
To the revolutionist, please don't take this the wrong way but with your apparent lack of experience
of making a profit, lack of understanding of customers, blinker vision you could make it big on here as you have the perfect attributes for the next director of betfair, get an application form a.s.a.p.
By:
paulme
When: 24 Sep 11 21:34
LaughShocked
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 24 Sep 11 21:57
Good thread, good old forum cream pie fight, the bestLaugh
By:
LordBobbbin
When: 24 Sep 11 21:59
Well there're lots of poorly-constructed (or strangely-constructed in Greed's case!) lines of English flowing from everybody's keyboard, if that's what you mean...
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 24 Sep 11 22:07
I reckon greeds return key has got bubbly gum stuck in it.
By:
LordBobbbin
When: 24 Sep 11 22:14
I think he's e e cumming's secret love-child.
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