The best laid schemes of mice and men

Shane 7.10 this Revolutionary  if you follow the charts  looks like the cash is down   so zips on win and place

Shane Table for 3 at our fav restaurant 8.15 ...talk tomorrow . good night .

Great day zip, well done. Enjoy your meal tonight.

Afternoon zip.

Back Candycakes 1:20
Back Show Flower 1:50
Back Moon Trip 2:20

Lay Mingun Bell 7:15 - reverting back to my old lay system from today.

Afternoon Shane.Zip goes for dot on the card  each meeting race time order

3.40 Colonel Mark
4.25 Riversdale
4.35 White Frost

All to the usual - 3 win - 9 place.
Sorry I've not been in touch.. I didn't realise you are a working man & it wouldn't be right to interrupt you three or four times a day - winners or not.We will keep in touch on here.

zip, some good picks there mate, i`ll back all three.

So will i ....away the lads

Shane when this post began zip  ask you to keep the score  re 10% of the bank  how we doing,   i know you keep the score   in the Prem  two nice winners for zip today,  zips out  shopping  but he will look at this tonight  if you are interested  he may have 2 bets tonight  let me know  the nurse .

Shane  zip here  the dot on the card  at Brighton  is 7.15 Italian Tom
7.25 Newcastle  Mango Music   
may not post again  cause of the poor feed back
but next month i will rejoin div 3

Morning zip. Fridays a busy day for me. Thanks to you i`m in profit, bank £257.
I`m not in good form at all. I`ll be studying early Saturday.

Wonder where freddie is ?? he`s always keen for your selections. Again, great tipping zip.

Afternoon zip. I`ve a few decent ones to back before i go out.

3:20 - Dubawi Gold
2:50 - Lily`s Angel
3:50 - Casual Glimpse
5:00 - Admirable Spirit

£20 win on all four. Also had £100 double on Liverpool & MK Dons to both win at local bookies.

Good luck with yours.

Afternoon Shane  of your 4 zip will back Casual Glimpse 9/1 10/1 plenty   10s on here  so 3 win 9 place  looks a good bet zips on
my zappers in race time order
Bev 2.35 Robert The Painter
Bev 3.05 Sud Pacifique
Good 5.00 Favourite Girl
all  3 points win 9 points place 
we should have a good day good luck

I`m hopeful today zip, quietly confident. Though racing is such a difficult game.

Shane  yes it difficult  but you get the odds  we can back horses  win and place up tp 12/1  take football  4/5 home 5/4 away  nobody can win long term at them prices  any sport with only 2 players  the odds are poor  ive know  several pro punters  on the nags  most of them are ex bookies  never heard of a pro punter  on say darts  tennis  fishing  wrestling  why the odds are small , nice to talk  see you tomorrow  by the way we both won small today  you never go skint winning no matter how small  remember that  zip

Yes, decent day zip. Got my double up on football too.

Afternoon Shane  zippers zappers 3 today  race time order
3.20 Doncaster Rover
3.30 O ,Gorman
3.55 Ellie In The Pink
off out now for Sunday lunch, maybe back in time too see em..... maybe
Away The lads .. good luck with your picks

Afternoon zip, just got in from golfing. My only bet is £200 on Man Utd to beat Arsenal.

Morning Shane you off work today Bank Holiday ?..
Keep backing The Reds  £200 nice bet  well done  on that form yesterday they will not loses more than 4 games all season .  picks up about 1.00..  small profit for me yesterday  but hey ho a profit is a profit

Shane  you playing or not ?

zippers zappers at the 5 meetings today .. Bank Holiday  Monday
playing 10% of the bank.
Each bet will be 5 minutes to post time.All bets on the nose, no lays today.

Bets will be at B/F starting price  to avoid confusion  wish me luck

2.00 £433  Gonner Hill

2.30 Blue Deer  £389 on the nose  been a bit of a struggle to get on but zips on

Epsom  3rd bet  3.05 Crimea £350 on the nose .

Mice Or Men .. £1172 lost in 3 bets  bank now £3158 next bet  £315  are you in lads ? ... the nurse is 
time for a glass of good wine  .

Bet 4, zip on at 8.2 £315 on the nose  profit  £2,268
5.00  George Thisby ..Massive weight  9 .12 thats the only thing can beat him ...lets see .

5.35 Danceing Welcome  £284  on the nose at 6.4. if it win zip is  just in front .. game on

looks like zip  is talking to himself ok you 10% men  and Kelly Men   by the way i never agree  with  the Kelly way of betting   but each to his own .Last throw of the dice.

6.10 £255 Significant Move....  zip likes this horse  so double stakes ...£510 on the nose

zip just won  sorry Shane  but this is my last post cause  i take it your out  ... follow zip in div 3 next  month

Sorry zip, been very hectic today, missus is in hospital, she will be ok but maybe there for a few more days.

Afternoon zip, a couple for me today.

Back Scrooby Doo 4:40
Lay Tell Dad 3:00

Good luck with yours. The bank now stands at £380.

freddie - October 14th. She`s having op later today.

Just backed Blue Deer 4:30

Afternoon Shane  hope your wife is ok  tell her the best of luck from zip
Freddie  Alex Bird  was a bit before my time  but my Dad  talked a lot about him  .. the best gambler i ever meet was John Gough  now he was a legend  Read somewhere on here  he recently passed away  .. pick up later

Shane / Freddie  3 good  things  before 4.00 pm  ok they will be hot favs  but that  wont stop em winning .
2.10 Priors Gold
3.10 Green Du Ciel
4.00 Dubawi Dancer
lump on em cause zip has a couple of 5/1  shots  after 4.30 we cannot lose
aint good to say good luck    luck has nowt to do with my game plan.......

I`ll back those zip, cheers. Thanks for message of support.

All the best shanelee with your wife's op

Shane / Freddie   All 3 good things got turned over 
2.00 Priors Gold .... about 5/6 on fell at the last .. would not have won  IMO


3.10 Green Du Ciel  odds on  Best i can say the nag was tailed off

4.00  Dubawi Dancer another odds on  ran ok but lost to a  18/1 shot
who'd  be a bookie    more  certs to follow [;)][;)]

Shane / Freddie time for a nice glass of wine  zip will be back about  5.30 .

Bath 5.30 Flaxen Lake  to win

Sorry guys  but thats zip  out 4 nill ... i have a golden rule when i get beat  4 on the trot ant day  zips out i dont chase ,, always tomorrow   must see the nurse  need a massage .

Redcar   zippers zappers
2.30 LAY Rougini
3.05 Back  Ryedane   LAY Captian Scooby
3.40 Back Koo And The Gang ........ nap .
Shane /Freddie we made a few  quid last month  but Sep lets go for the jackpot  bank starts at £2300  all back are to 10% of the bank settled at S/P   lays are to make £200.. you in yes or no  .. zips in  only 30 days to go
zip will post P/L  about 9.30 eackh morning
Shane hope your  better half is doing ok  give her my love and best wishes

Morning Shane / Freddie 
2 lays yesterday  one won 7/2 tother lost so a 500 points loss
backs both got beat  so a 460 loss .. bank today is 1340  same again 10/% of the kitty so win bets today are to  134 points lays are to 200 points steady .. picks up about 1.00 .

Hi Freddie   the party is underway
2.30 LAY  Beau Duce  to win 200  or lose 450   sould be about 9/4
plenty more to follow will post race by race  but will give you time to get on .

Freddie  how many bets   well how long is a piece  of string

just depends what the make up of the cards are .. but i like to be out 4.30  with their cash  very rarely do i do the night shift  unlees  its a good thing .. about 4/5 a day would be average

Haydock 3.40 Ganas  to win   bet 136 .

Freddie place landed you know how zip bets 1 point win 3 points place ...2 points win 6 points place and so on   re tough H/C  thats were the value is  and i love em puts food on the table  and pays for the good things in life    for the record zip had  400 too place  ok the win bet lost but the place was sweet   
I take winning as a bonus  many a day all my win bets get beat  but 1 /3  gives you a profit and thats what its all about  nobody ever whent skint with a profit  trust me ..

Haydock 4.40 Abergavenny  To hit the frame .

Abergavenny  the kid did not give it the best of rides  stone cold last with 3 furlongs to run .. all over the place ran on strong   thats racing  move on  .
Haydock  5.10  Barren Brook  zip has taken 8/1 win   and the odds to a place   win lose or draw  thats zip out with a few quid profit .. talk tomorrow  got a wife and nurse to  entertain   . good luck

Evening / Morning gents. Missus is back home. Hope you`re keeping in front.
I`ll have a look at Saturdays cards & see if we can win a few bob.
Football - back Sheffield Utd to win.

My lucky pin has landed on the following:

Back Society Rock 3:35
Back Martin Chuzzlewit 4:40
Back Harris Tweed 2:15
Back Factotum 4:30
Back Ittasal 2:40
Back Eton Rifles 3:15
Back Judge n Jury 5:20

Well, thats my magnificent seven for Saturday

I`ve been sent a horse from a shrewd dude, runs at Wolves tomorrow, 8:00 race.
Said he is, along with others, having a few grand on Kingston Tiger. Maybe best to watch the market on here first, thats if anyone thinks it has a chance.

Just the one footy bet which i posted earlier.

Good luck zip.

Hi Shane  good news re your wife, cause you have not had time to post last couple of days  our pal Freddie  has been entertaining zip ..Bit of an up and down day yesterday  but still  managed  a profit of about 700  the lay lost and of the  backs 2 hit the frame /so the bank is now 1848  ...5 bets for me today  1 lay  and 4 to place   no out right winners . Freddie the full bank will be on the line  ... the lay is to 200  and the 4 to place are to 300 each  It will be all over come 4.00pm  thats the way i play  ok zip puts  his money were his mouth is  wish me luck

Kempton 2.15 LAY Harris Tweed
Haydock 2.30 Place Blissful Moments
Haydock 3.00 Place Hazelrigg
Ascot   3.15 Place Smarty Socks
Ascot   3.45 Place  Rain Mac .

Afternoon gents, i`m nurse today Stag do will be at Sheffield dogs, i`ll be punting those reverse forcasts.

Bit of mixed day for zip, lay lost so 200 in the kitty of the 4 placed nags only one hit the frame  Smarty Socks paid 2.2  so  on the day lost  370 all in all opening bank  1848 closing bank  1478   all bets tomorrow will be  147  to win or place  the lays are to 200 . Good night all ,the nurse has just made my fav drink  JD  with ice

Night zip

Good Morning Men  2 today for me  both to win
3.30 Parisian Pyramid Nap
4.00 Boss Destination NB
good luck if you play ...

Morning troops. Footy going well. Sheff Utd won well, off to collect winnings shortly.

Back Henri Prends Garde 5:20
Back Morestead 4:15

I like the look of Charlton who play tomorrow night.

Good luck troops.

Freddie  wolf at the door you need cash  ok  2.25  Rio Grande lay it till your nose bleeds   collect the money and tell the wolf to go away  or you will set zip on it ... bet it leaves with its tail between its legs ..

Freddie its no secret lay em low ..back em high  zipper 1966 .

Freddi bit of fun .. hows that wolf doing  ??

Feddie its Sunday   the day for fun with the family   the wolf ... tip the wink

Freddie the wolf ...how much does he  need  ??

Freddie this 3.15 they bet 2/1 the field be brave BACK  American Ladie ... LAY  On Terms  . Go for it

Freddie  the 3.15 this is my take on the race American Ladie would have won with a clear run  hampered twice   On Terms is a proper madam   but when a 12/1 shot wins  who was   tailed  off last outing  pay with a smile .. but the way the  win and lay lost nowt

Freddie you know how zip plays with horses  say over  4/1 
100 win ...  300 place  over 5/1 200 win  600 place  over  7/1 300 win 900 place .. thats were the value is  ... if they win at say 12/1 up to 66/1 well zip aint on

Freddie thanks for your input today   its 4.00  away the lads .
got the Wife And the Nurse to enterntain   .. drinks are on me   .

Morning troops, here goes. All backs

2:30 Jan Jandura
3:00 King Ozzy
3:30 Spock
4:30 Clu Agas Cail
3:20 Broctune Papa Gio (nap)

I`ve backed Charlton tonight @ evens.

Good luck

Afternoon Shane hope you and the Wife are doing OK 
your picks today i like the profile of 2.30 Jan Jandura  3.20 Broctune Paps Cio 4.30 Clu Agus Cail  they all look  the real deal  zip aint a big fan of summer jumping  but your 2 over the sticks will pay off .. for me zips looking at 5 today  couple of lays  and  the other 3 to at least hit the crossbar  ok lets go race time order
3.10 Seeking Magic  about  7/2 is a back win and place
3.40 One Lucky Lady  about 9/4 is a Lay
3.50 Whats For Pudding  9 of the tipsters pick the nag   so it must be a Lay

4.10 Maastricht  about 5.20  back him win and place
4.20 Circus Clown   zip likes this horse  so win and place

good luck to you your wife  and Freddie

Freddie ..Shanes first pick  2.30  Jan Jandura  was not very strong in the win market about 4/1  but in the place market it was very very strong  so zip backed the horse to hit the crossbar at 1.61  .. the nags was 3rd  away the  lads ... its like finding money in the street  well done Shane

Sorry Shane but your  spook  on its July 10 th run  at todays price its got to be a LAY  zips a Layer

Freddie Whats for Pudding  The horse has won his last 2  he his still  in a class 6  do you know how many horses win 3 on the bounce . class 6. tell you later zip a layer

Freddie bit late for me 4.20 Circus Clown  win and place
zips zappers today 
3.10  win and place  zip won
3.40  lay  zip won
3.50  lay zip won 
4.10  place only zip won
4.20  win and place    the result  will be up  4.40  any how zips out .
by the way my fav tiple is JD  with ice

Freddie  Circus Clown  finished 3rd  win and place zip won
The way to go is  7/4  on the nose   4/1 plus  place only  up to 16/1 .... you will never be welcomed  by the so called BIG THREE..
but hey ho  f... em  you always have Betfair .

Afternoon troops, busy today so not really looked.
Bank down to £135, so it`s all going on Priceless Art 2:50 to win.

Good luck

Hi Shane  and the troops . Shane see your all in  with Priceless Art  .. it should win  but all in is for Gamblers  zip  prefers the steady way   try these  race time order
2.00 Swing Alone win and place
2.10 Rock Canyon win and place
2.20 Szabos Destiny  win and place
2.30 Latte on the nose
2.40 Cookieshake lay any price
2.50 Your all in  the only danger is a fall
3.00 Barista win and place
3.10 Yair Hill win and place

that will do for zip  3.10 and hes home and hosed

Ouch, got well beat. Didn`t like the price movement early i/r, 4/5k pushing it out, ahhh well, can`t win them all

Good to see you get the 3:10 zip, some tricky races to predict.

Good Afternoon Shane  sorry you blew  your bank yesterday  on an odds out shot, dont feel to bad about it  anyone and i mean anyone  backings odds on  will loss its only a matter of time and how big your  balls and  bank roll is  so learn from that .
zips zappers for today  4  picks who should be odds against  race time order
2.20 Grandad Horse
2.45 Venture Spirit
2.55 Folk Tune
3.20 Albaspina
for those who like a big un ( and who dont ) here are 3
2.10 Oddysey
4.05 Consult
5.20 Rocket Rob
good luck

Freddie if i told you that you would have a good idea of my identity   move on .
all four of zip zappers  shorties  won  paying  an A/C of about  27/1 SP ....on here Betfair god bless em  it was about  32/1  thats the value .... its like finding money in the street

Mr Zip's definitely a good 'un

Hi Shane  zips a bit worried you aint been posting for a couple of days  also cannot see you in div 3 . hope you and the wife are ok please let me know ... thanks

Freddie only the wife and nurse can answer that ?
3 hot pots  today  all to be ridden  by champs they will be over bet so zips a layer.
Donny 1.25 Besito  jock ..Fallon  at the price lay the nag.

Freddie and the Dreamers  did you lay the Fallon horse . 1.25 donny result never in doubt ...away the lads .

Freddie, well you seem very curious

Donny 1.55 Alanza about 5/2  jock  J Murtagh .. top rated with the BHB 123   zips a layer ..

Alanza wins  at 5/2  zip cannot win on the lays now (had 3 ) the other dont matter
so  lets go for the backs ... a walk in the park . post when i see the market

3.20 Whitby Jet to fly in

last throw of the dice 3.55 Epsom  Palawi   180 win  500 place 
Sorry Freddie  but if Shane  has quit for whatever reason  thats zip out,  been fun but it aint any fun talking to yourself . hope you understand ............zip

They're all leaving you Freddie!

Freddie ... for one reason or another re Shane - don't mind admitting I miss the banter.Zipper ain't never been shy with the zappers but I've got my own post now under " Zipper " & I'm going handicapping today. Four on the nose nearer post time.

Freddie sorry i miss read the post   any how lets back some winners  Weddings aint cheap

Good morning Freddie zip here  still alive and still kicking .....how you doing dont say tour missing me already

Freddie couple of lays ...Perth 3.00 One For Joules
Redcar 4.35 Brouhaha  . couple of win bets a Goodwood   if they go in the J/D with ice is on me .. wish me luck

zips alive and kicking  ....its lump on time.. bet like men
4.55 Tameen ... the full monty

Tameen .. pass the cheese ..over and out ..zip

Afternoon Freddie  zips zapper are doing ok  2 lays today for zip  3.00 Chester.. Fulbright to be honest i got a bit lucky there  the horse would have won with a better break and a clear run .. but hay ho thats racing ....the other lay was never in doubt  Newmarket 3.10 Timepiece (on the hores race forum they have a lay of the day and zip put Timepiece up) .. and to boot i had the best Mare in Europe  ...Sahpresa running for me  2/1 was a steal  zip was on .. please dont come on about Goldikova .. they are both top class

Well thats how zip is doing what about you  Freddie ...........talk to me

Afternoon Freddie  zips zappers  for today  it will be all over  3.35. thats how i like this game to go  picks race time order
2.00 Pride And Joy ...lay
2.15 Stags Leap...lay
2.30 Gabrials Gift ...lay
2.45 Serene Oasis ...lay
3.35 Roman Eagle .... back .
As always good luck .

Lay Summer Dance why James Will has tip it . about 5/1 lay lay

Summer Dancer Tailed off zzzzzzzzzzz

These TV boys no their onions .....

Weighed in Weighed in ..... horses away

Shane You getting married well congratulations  to you and your bride ...have a long and happy life together like me and my  special girl Susan , been happy last 40 years . the best of luck