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02 Aug 11
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Recently on the 31st of July I set a trap for all the countless forum persons that constantly go on and on about how
harsh they think the Premium Charge 2 is, what I did is started a thread with an alternative idea to replace the charge
MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION CHARGE OF SAY JUST £2
Now if all the forum complainers of the pc2 were genuine high rollers with £250,000 lifetime profits on here
then the chance of only paying £2 a month would of meant they would of jumped at the idea and quickly agreed
So how many voted or agreed to the idea 400 ? 300? 200? 100? well the figure was NOBODY
Thus proving that in the cold reality of day it seems that hardly any of the constant moaners are on pc2
and judging by there low business sense and general bombastic attitudes these pc2 moaners
AINT GOT THE MUSTARD TO EVER EARN £250,000 IN LIFETIME PROFITS
So why dont do yourselves,everyone else and betfair a favour and stop having us all on and make less noise
there are people seriously using the forum and the exchange and betfair don't need lamers loose on the system
talking rubbish and creating childish threads
Thank you for reading this thread and enjoy the great services that betfair offers us all
harsh they think the Premium Charge 2 is, what I did is started a thread with an alternative idea to replace the charge
MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION CHARGE OF SAY JUST £2
Now if all the forum complainers of the pc2 were genuine high rollers with £250,000 lifetime profits on here
then the chance of only paying £2 a month would of meant they would of jumped at the idea and quickly agreed
So how many voted or agreed to the idea 400 ? 300? 200? 100? well the figure was NOBODY
Thus proving that in the cold reality of day it seems that hardly any of the constant moaners are on pc2
and judging by there low business sense and general bombastic attitudes these pc2 moaners
AINT GOT THE MUSTARD TO EVER EARN £250,000 IN LIFETIME PROFITS
So why dont do yourselves,everyone else and betfair a favour and stop having us all on and make less noise
there are people seriously using the forum and the exchange and betfair don't need lamers loose on the system
talking rubbish and creating childish threads
Thank you for reading this thread and enjoy the great services that betfair offers us all
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boring monotonous *****
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loser they pay 10 quid plus pay 5%comm everybody else fiver
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BBM are you on crack?
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totally agree fanatic. it was ridiculous at the time. like anyone not paying PC was in the minority. bad message for newbies here. lets all toast the PC Hike!!
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the chance of only paying £2 a month would of meant they would of jumped at the idea and quickly agreed
I think the problem you will find with your logic is the fact that the 480 aren't stupid and know that a monthly subscription fee is a ridiculous idea. Why would a losing/winning punter want to pay a subcription fee, esp when they can get better/equal odds elsewhere? |
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bf_f : Recently on the 31st of July I set a trap for all the countless forum persons that constantly go on and on about how
harsh they think the Premium Charge 2 is, what I did is started a thread with an alternative idea to replace the charge You're so persistent, not only do you "go on and on" about the PC, but you even start a new thread telling us about your last thread! Get a grip man, have a beer, relax. I'm actually now starting to think that you genuinely can't see the wood for the tree's, you're obsessed with the PC for one reason or another. You should give it a rest though, because I'm thinking now that you're a failed gambler with an envious streak and probably bitterly jealous of those that are successful. Apologies if I'm wrong, but that's how you come across. |
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Trevh
Bit harsh maybe . He sounds more like to me as someone with only one gear. Fast forward. No reverse, no neutral. Must actually be quite exhausting to be so absolutely positive and up for it all the time. You on the other hand trevh, like me, sound a bit too old and jaundiced to be so bushy tailed. I don't think I ever was that bushy tailed about anything ever tbh. I've always been a bit lazy and have expected to be handed things pretty much on a plate. Bff sounds as if he has pulled himself up unaided from quite a diadvantageous start to life. But who knows what we on here really are ? |
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" ---disadvantageous start---"
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Well if the guy has an abundance of energy Frog, he appears to be wasting it. No point harping on and on about the PC, put that energy to good use instead.
As for me, I'm not quite old and jaundiced yet lol, just a mere 44 going on 24, and am very very bushy tailed when it comes to gambling, totally dedicated to the extent that I'm here in the small hours every day to be the early bird that catches the worm. Part of the incentive for me was my mates always telling me about gambling being a slippery slope and a mugs game, so it's quite satisfying to now be making more money than they do a month in their conventional boring 9-5's. |
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Way to go trevh.
Sorry for putting you into my dotage. I'm trying very hard however to grow old disgracefully. |
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I imagine you're doing okay on that score Frog :)
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My opinion is that bf_fananatic
 is a born loser judging by his posts.LOL He can't even spell his own forum name correctly. I'm sure these pro's would not pay a monthly subscription fee. Just to name a few. Name Alan Woods (a.k.a Mr Huge) Age 62 - deceased January 26, 2008 Birth Place Murwillumbah, New South Wales AUSTRALIA Image Residence Manilla, Philipines (at death) Estimated Worth $670 million USD Method Summary Value opportunities are identified through form analysis to establish a horse's probability rating which is then compared to it's market price. Name Patrick Veitch Age 39 Birth Place UNITED KINGDOM Image Residence United Kingdom Estimated Worth Unknown - made over £10 million profit between 1999 - 2007 Method Summary Selections are based on mathematical assessment of runners compared to their price in the race Name Dave Nevison Age 47 Birth Place UNITED KINGDOM Image Residence United Kingdom Estimated Worth Unknown - est. income £50 thousand p.a. minimum. Method Summary Looks for value picks. Runners who he assesses as overpriced in the market given their chance of winning. Name Andrew Beyer Age 65 Birth Place Washington D.C UNITED STATES Image Residence Washington D.C United States Estimated Worth Unknown Method Summary Calculates a speed rating for each horse's past runs and compares each runners rating to determine the fastest horse in the race. Name Zeljko Ranogajec Age 48 Birth Place Hobart, Tasmania AUSTRALIA Image Residence Balmoral, New South Wales Australia Estimated Worth Unknown - est. profit $10 - $20 million p.a. Method Summary Looks for value picks using percentages. Name William Benter Age 42 Birth Place Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania UNITED STATES Image Residence Hong Kong Estimated Worth Unknown - est. profit $6 - $8 million p.a. Method Summary Uses form analysis to determine the probability of various race outcomes. |
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If you think a born loser is someone who owns probably the most profitable greyhound prediction
system ever then you need a prescription, like the greyhound I am a born winner. "A horse is made to run by a jockey , a human athlete runs to beat a clock, but only a greyhound is born to run" |
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Don't they sometimes overfeed them before races or dodgy things like that ?
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I Haven't come across data that suggests or supports this practice, doubtless there will be some foul
play in all sports but its only a very tiny proportion of what are otherwise honest sporting events |
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I have trained greyhounds and believe me they are easily nobbled.
Although greyhounds start quick, they can't mach a race horse for speed(even with 9 stone on their back) once in full stride. |
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Letting rare negative activity or persons overwhelm the positive parts and whole of any popular event or pastime is negative behavior you only need to look at the handful on here that constantly moan about odds,charges,the firm, other posters from a base of over 3 million users to realize that!
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bf_fananatic
02 Aug 11 16:42 Joined: 17 Jul 11 | Topic/replies: 572 | Blogger: bf_fananatic's blog I don't bet on anything at the moment but I do lay peoples doubts to rest and back good ideas. Football is very popular on sports betting now and surely you like the wider range of football markets that the duckpond cant open for fear of diluted liquidity that is all ready super-sized to make it look respectable with a matched figure that represents total winnings and exposure figure and not the matched stake value, very naughty practice over at the duckpond. The most profitable greyhound prediction system ever must be going well then. |
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Just 10 more years of paper trading and it will be ready !!
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Would you believe that although betfair markets implied chances are believed to be the most accurate
ever according to my tested calculations even thos are out by a factor of around 2 points per race, trading on ticks to me is the method chosen by lesser minds  |
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I don't want to break betfairs bank when I start soon but I will break anyone elses with pleasure, hopefully give the traders a hammering[;)]
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At least they are putting money into the markets and pay commission to Betfair. You are just a freerider of the forum facilities.
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What I have and know you can only dream of
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I dream of nothing most of the day.
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I want betfair to get fat on my success, and even if the charges goes up again, I dont mind at all as its survival of the fittest
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I admire your persistence !
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Well I starting my love for greyhounds before I backed them, a kid in the back of a van with 2 greyhounds going to the races, they didn't win but my love for the sport was sealed that night[:)]
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If you want to see how special these greyhounds can be type "the fastest greyhound ever Brett lee"
in youtube and watch the clip, sheer electric performances of speed! |
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Oh dear i sense a confession coming. . .
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Big daddy cool video shouldn't be missed as well, the one with the cool music
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Would you like to tell us more about your "love" for greyhounds, does it involve j and g ? ? ?
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Its sad that the derby has won by a foreign horse and got so much tv coverage, the greyhound derby
was won by taylors sky who broke the record twice in heats and final , charlie lister equaled the record for most derby wins and the trap 1 voodoo was broken, It got hardly any press or tv coverage[:(] |
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In Australia greyhound big races are massive events, on tv and at the track, but bookmakers have devalued the product for over 20 years now in britain!
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And yet its still the number 2 betting sport, but they hold a monopoly on dog tracks, keep the prize money low to discourage fair races, when they bought monmore the first thing they did is alter the first bend to turn a safe track into a crash course, how good is that for the sport?
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The bookmakers by televising dog races in high street shops created low attendances at tracks and then bought up the tracks, they feed the trackside bookies with office money, they control the whole game except for gra tracks who get little in help from private investment!
The tracks could have got a better deal and bookmakers effect on track attendances is a matter of grave concern then and now, for greyhound and horse racing. |
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I reckon if betfair got a deal with GRA and televised there tracks races on betfair, the tracks would get a regular source of income and betting on dog races through betfair would increase considerably,
In winter when the flat season is finishes and meetings are sparse its the greyhound racing that keeps the bookies going, all that virtual rubbish and machines are not what punters really want as there is no skill or form relationship to winning! |
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And yet the hare still wins every race !
SEriously thoug are you really claiming Bff that GR is a less corrupted betting activity than HR ? I add that this is a unloaded question from someone who is unfamiliar with both sports. |
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I have little idea about what goes on with fixed racing but most punters assume if there backed
dog gets bumped,impeded,sent wide, checked, knock over that its fixed, perhaps they need to understand that its all on the first bend at most tracks that the race is won and if you look at how many dogs go on to win a race if leading and out of trouble then its certainly between 40%-80% Dependant on track type and season(eg crayford winter,80%,hove summer 40%) Horse racing has much less of a negative start effect than GR except for sprints to up to 6F but the leader wins much less of the races. Backing favorites at GR is a risky business though and only should be done on the basis of a very good draw advantage, the opposite should be laid, small price/bad draw. but in answer to your question fafh there is little evidence of fixing in racing in my opinion |