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bf_fananatic
29 Jul 11 17:45
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Never in history of betting has so many moaned so much about a charge that affects so few!

There is nothing wrong with the concept of an exchange that offers a "fair" playing field for all users, giving very
small over-rounds, higher prices and a variety of markets and products and allowing for winners unlike other betting companies but at the same time there will be those that using advanced software or bookmakers laying off strong fancied runners will continually take advantage of the system to the great detriment of other users, Betfair and the revenues.

Is it "fair" to let this group continually rake so much off other users money (many millions)and deny Betfair from making its small commission thus having little left to attract new customers in advertising or incentive plans,let alone pay the bills!

Well done Betfair for introducing this charge to make for a fairer and more level playing field so that the eco-system can benifit
and thus all the users of this greatest of British success story that is known as  "Betfair"

Yes I am a great fan of Betfair , always have been and always will be as there is no other exchange that can match there
liquidity(the other sites liquidity is unfairly represented by a factor of 6x-20x on races), there website, there products or there
guts when it comes to moving the company forward

Good luck to all customers and betfair and a prosperous future to all!
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Report Mr. J. July 29, 2011 5:54 PM BST
Give it rest,bff.
Report Eddie the eagle July 29, 2011 5:54 PM BST
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Report Gerbs July 29, 2011 5:55 PM BST
have you had time to place a bet during  your 12 days and 372 posts about the PC
Report bf_fananatic July 29, 2011 6:00 PM BST
have you paid pc2 in the same period, then my answer is niether of us need woryyLaugh
Report buzzer July 29, 2011 6:01 PM BST
What was your previous forum name?
It's obvious you've been here before in another guise.
Report Getafix July 29, 2011 6:02 PM BST
Don't know why I'm wasting my time responding but I have some time to kill...

Is it "fair" to let this group continually rake so much off other users money (many millions)and deny Betfair from making its small commission thus having little left to attract new customers in advertising or incentive plans,let alone pay the bills!

This is the typical response of the pro betfair users who haven't read the corporate information.  You should get your facts straight before spouting fallacies.  By no means is the "Exchange" suffering due to pc2 players - the exchange is doing very well - read Nemesis's posts.  It is the floatation and expenditure into unrelated products i.e., LMax that is costing betfair. 

It is betfair's right to invest in what it deems is a possible money maker but please get your facts right for a change.
Report bf_fananatic July 29, 2011 6:03 PM BST
Anyone have a rational post to the thread statement?
nows theres a challenge for your grey matter [;)]
Report bf_fananatic July 29, 2011 6:06 PM BST
getafix apart from trying to entangle me in your obscure accusation, do you not agree the pc2 is a brilliant business decision or are you just another miff merchant
Report DOUBLED July 29, 2011 6:10 PM BST
bff it is THEIR you thick tw@t
Report Getafix July 29, 2011 6:10 PM BST
"obscure accusation" - please explain?

I do not agree that the PC2 is a brilliant business decision - it means other exchanges will get a bigger foothold and liquidity will get reduced for all involved.  It may boost betfair's short terms profits but I fear it will cause much more harm to existing customer sentiment and new customer appeal.
Report Ghetto Joe July 29, 2011 6:12 PM BST
There is nothing wrong with the concept of an exchange that offers a "fair" playing field for all users, giving very
small over-rounds, higher prices


I know you've only been here less than a couple of weeks but you do realise it's not betfair setting these odds/liquidity don't you?


Is it "fair" to let this group continually rake so much off other users money


If they are playing by unfair means then maybe Betfair should ban them rather than act like Fagin leeching off his gang of thieves.

Well done Betfair for introducing this charge to make for a fairer and more level playing field

Ummm maybe you could explain how all of the sudden Betfair has become fairer and more of a level playing field? I can see no changes, tracksiders were still able to lay memory from 11's to a BSP of 37 in the blink of an eye before suspension when it became obvious it hadn't left the stalls at the off. If you want to make things fairer you look at the reasons why they're winning and close those loopholes not dip into their pockets.

Betfair " gotta pick a pocket or two"
Report Eddie the eagle July 29, 2011 6:12 PM BST
As usual your post is just nonsense from first to last word apart fom the first line.  I agree with you on that.

  I also happen to think it's an awful buisniss deciscion.  It will over time allow one or more of their competitors to grow up. Something that over time will cost Betfair much more money than they will rake from PC.

  They will probably adjust or reverse PC charges when they realize this, but by then it will be to late.
Report Eddie the eagle July 29, 2011 6:13 PM BST
DOUBLED, he gets the there/their wrong all the time, yet he comes on here bragging of how intelligent he is.
Report DOUBLED July 29, 2011 6:14 PM BST
liquidity(the other sites liquidity is unfairly represented by a factor of 6x-20x on races), there website, there products or there
guts when it comes to moving the company forward

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Report Gerbs July 29, 2011 6:29 PM BST
Gerbs     29 Jul 11 17:55 
have you had time to place a bet during  your 12 days and 372 posts about the PC


bf_fananatic     29 Jul 11 18:00 
have you paid pc2 in the same period, then my answer is niether of us need woryy



I have paid PC1 an will pay PC2 in the  future

I take that your reply is an admission that you havnt had a bet on here since joining the forum

but yet you spout all this nonsense non stop, 375 and posts and counting and doesnt
even pay commission never mind PC
Report john92 July 29, 2011 6:43 PM BST
"Fair" and "level playing field"....

I pay the original PC betting on ATR and RUK. Until 18 months ago I had never even heard of the auto refresh application. You have no idea how to make it more level or fair.

What pills are you on son?
Report aspy65 July 29, 2011 6:46 PM BST
the new pc is a nee-jerk reaction due to the fact they have moved company abroad to aviod paying tax, however this failed because goverment bringing in new laws to nagate this loop hole.

this new pc will damage the company in the long term   nap
Report Lex July 29, 2011 6:47 PM BST
bf fan an atic

"Never in history of betting has so many moaned so much about a charge that affects so few!"

are you mad? Cry
Report aueng July 29, 2011 6:58 PM BST
cwan
Report Feck N. Eejit July 29, 2011 7:16 PM BST
If they are playing by unfair means then maybe Betfair should ban them rather than act like Fagin leeching off his gang of thieves.

An excellent analogy Joe.
Report jme July 29, 2011 7:44 PM BST
Whilst eating his cornflakes at breakfast earlier, Mr bf_fananatic was opening his mail, one of which was from British Gas. He soon came over in a hot flush and climaxed in his y-fronts once he noticed that his energy bill would rise by 50% this year.
Report catfleppo July 29, 2011 8:40 PM BST
Bff, you are giving us betfair plants a bad name with your silly posts.
[:x]
Report tinca tinca July 29, 2011 8:59 PM BST
Bff obviously a loser with no aspiration.
Report the big bossman July 29, 2011 9:38 PM BST
LOSER HOW MUCH IS BETFAIR PAYING YOU OR ARE YOU A BIG LOSER
Report FINE AS FROG HAIR July 29, 2011 9:46 PM BST
Bff you are giving us plants a bad name with your silly pots.
Report bf_fananatic July 29, 2011 10:59 PM BST
thats good I am glad most of you agree with me then!
Report FINE AS FROG HAIR July 29, 2011 11:23 PM BST
Maybe we're all just in the compost heap with you ?
Report bf_fananatic July 29, 2011 11:38 PM BST
the post about gas bill goes up 50%, well they cost of energy is due to go up quite alot and we will all have to pay it, of course some of the chumps on here will go back to there caves and gather the old fire wood and probavly rub each other up the wrong way to get it lite!Devil
Report pmbets July 30, 2011 1:04 AM BST
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Report pmbets July 30, 2011 1:08 AM BST
bff initials are I.D.
Report FINE AS FROG HAIR July 30, 2011 1:22 AM BST
Too subtle for me pm, I'm afraid.
Report pmbets July 30, 2011 1:28 AM BST
First name Ian
Report FINE AS FROG HAIR July 30, 2011 1:30 AM BST
Still don't get it.
Report bf_fananatic July 30, 2011 1:35 AM BST
pmbets is that name something to do with basing your bets on your monthly cycle when the lunny moon is calling your name and telling you to have a flutter, how quaint.
Report FINE AS FROG HAIR July 30, 2011 1:36 AM BST
Geez I am really out of the loop on this one.
Report Eddie the eagle July 30, 2011 9:04 AM BST
pmbets, if you somehow have found out bff's identity, you shouldn't reveal it on here unless he has written it here himself or if he really is a Betfair plant (which I don't believe).

  You certainly can't mean he is the I.D. I found after a few seconds of reasearch ?
Report bf_fananatic July 30, 2011 9:30 PM BST
nobody knows my identity on this forum, just my views, I do think like betfair and its staff because I believe in the fair ethics of winning but thats my only link, perhaps this forum is not so much a think tank or exchange of views or opinions but an outlet for most peoples lack of understanding, inability to show concern, obsession with personnel gain, desire to offend and lack of self control,what ever did betfair do to deserve you defies imagination!
Report pmbets July 31, 2011 12:53 AM BST
How much do you get paid per hour bff?
The forum should name you jabba.Never heard a person talk so much.
Report bf_fananatic July 31, 2011 12:59 AM BST
yes my words fill in the spaces that you lot miss in thinking so my task is great!
Report bf_fananatic August 21, 2011 3:50 PM BST
I will seed my own threads rather than have silly ones at the topBlush
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