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Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant, they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain and bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy yourachievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Excersise caution in your buisness affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue ehere is, many persons strive for high ideals, and everwhere in life is full of heroism.
Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love, for in the face of all aridity and disenchantiment it is perennial as the grass.
Take kindly the counsel of years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
Beyond a wholsome discipline, be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and stars, you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you concive Him to be, and whatever your labours and aspirations, in the noisy confuusion of life keep peace with your soul.
With all it's sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world.
Found in an old Baltimore church dated 1692
Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant, they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain and bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy yourachievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Excersise caution in your buisness affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue ehere is, many persons strive for high ideals, and everwhere in life is full of heroism.
Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love, for in the face of all aridity and disenchantiment it is perennial as the grass.
Take kindly the counsel of years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
Beyond a wholsome discipline, be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and stars, you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you concive Him to be, and whatever your labours and aspirations, in the noisy confuusion of life keep peace with your soul.
With all it's sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world.
Found in an old Baltimore church dated 1692
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I'm not a religious person, but I find that quite charming and relaxing and relevant tbh.
Crisis what crisis...? Supertramp 1975.
Has that found its way into a song Stewarty ? It definitely rings a bell.
Has that found its way into a song Stewarty ? It definitely rings a bell.
The text was widely distributed in poster form and in late 1971 and early 1972, Les Crane's spoken-word recording of Desiderata peaked at #8 on the Billboard chart and #6 on the UK Melody Maker's chart. The makers of the record assumed that the poem was too old to be in copyright, but the publicity surrounding the record led to clarification of Ehrmann's authorship and his family eventually receiving royalties.
wikipedia
wikipedia
Stewarty...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxrsNCLr_xk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxrsNCLr_xk
Copycat Duncan. My late father handed me that approx 25 years ago.
It had been given to him at an AA meeting.
It had been given to him at an AA meeting.
Copycat Duncan. My late father handed me that approx 25 years ago.
It had been given to him at an AA meeting.
It had been given to him at an AA meeting.
PS It took me about 20 minutes to type that a only use the one finger. 
It also says on the sheet......
Printed to commemorate the 150th anniversary of Billing & Sons Limited.
Anyways, not worth nit picking over.
Rather poingant I thought, and food for thought.
Printed to commemorate the 150th anniversary of Billing & Sons Limited.
Anyways, not worth nit picking over.
Rather poingant I thought, and food for thought.
People who use more than one finger are tarts imo stewarty.
Christ Feck, I wish I could type properlty. mrs stew tried to teach me but to no avail.
Having said that, she uses eight fingers and her thumbs.
I didn't know what face was appropriate!
Having said that, she uses eight fingers and her thumbs.
I didn't know what face was appropriate!
Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you concive Him to be, and whatever your labours and aspirations, in the noisy confuusion of life keep peace with your soul.
Amazing to have the ability to write such a poem and yet not be capable of avoiding a basic spelling mistake.
Amazing to have the ability to write such a poem and yet not be capable of avoiding a basic spelling mistake.
Just what you need when stressed, a pile of religious claptrap to make you seethe at Americans more.
Not that they had Americans in 1692 I suppose.
Not that they had Americans in 1692 I suppose.
Baltimore's history has always been shaped by the sea, so much so that in 1631 much of the population was carried off by pirates, never to be seen again – an event known as the Sack of Baltimore. The castle of Dún na Séad (the Fort of the Jewels) from which the village takes its Irish name was also sacked by seaborne invaders more than once in its long career. Happily, the village recovered fully from these early setbacks and today the labyrinth of creeks and coves which was once the haunt of pirates is a playground for seafarers of a more peaceful kind.
it - wasn't - written - in - 1692. Try 1927.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desiderata
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desiderata
*Alan Partridge voice* - I belieeeeeve we've established that
Smell it
(If it's established it's not very well established, given the above posts)
(If it's established it's not very well established, given the above posts)
Think them same pirates(Africans) also came up the Thames and tried the same trick,Suppose we can only be thankful in this day and age there,s no pirates around trying to take whats not rightfully theirs.
How to get from pleasant life affirming poem to racist arsewit in a dozen posts.
I believe over a million English and sometimes Scottish people who lived on the coast were kidnapped into slavery by the Africans. Think it was the King of Tunisia who was the worst for it. He would select a load of them each day to try out new methods of torture. His favourite was hanging them upside down and slicing off as much of their skin as he could before they died.
is it established that the Baltimore hit by pirates is in county Cork? or are people just spouting random sh1te?
If I misread you lapsy, I'm genuinely sorry. I thought you were being sarcastic tryign to make a 'political' comment 
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Calm down people. My original post was in no way intended to be religious, just soothing on the mind to some.
I'm an atheist and believe we are nothing more than a cosmic accident. I know that might sound mind boggling, but look at the facts. Stephen Hawking has spent most of his life studying black holes. He believes that if you fell into one and survived, there's a strong possobility that you would come out into another universe.
Then there's the event horizon....
Then we have proof (due to the Hubble telescope) that the universe is expanding by 1,000,000 miles every day.
And so it goes on.
Yet noboby han answer the Holy Grail question..... What was there before the big bang???
I'm an atheist and believe we are nothing more than a cosmic accident. I know that might sound mind boggling, but look at the facts. Stephen Hawking has spent most of his life studying black holes. He believes that if you fell into one and survived, there's a strong possobility that you would come out into another universe.
Then there's the event horizon....
Then we have proof (due to the Hubble telescope) that the universe is expanding by 1,000,000 miles every day.
And so it goes on.
Yet noboby han answer the Holy Grail question..... What was there before the big bang???
Funnily enough Stuart I am reading an exceptionally good book about all that kind of sh*t just now and it's very rarely I give a glowing review for a book.
It's called 'Facts and Speculations of Science' by George Gamow. It is an old book, I think first published in 1947 and revised every decade or so since.
It's called 'Facts and Speculations of Science' by George Gamow. It is an old book, I think first published in 1947 and revised every decade or so since.
Another point I may add. No matter how much you win punting, trading, arbing etc. you can't take the money with you when the grim reaper appears.
Fk leaving it to the kids and cousins etc.
Leave something to those who cared/looked after you in life by all means. The rest, treat youself. We're only here for a visit.
Fk leaving it to the kids and cousins etc.
Leave something to those who cared/looked after you in life by all means. The rest, treat youself. We're only here for a visit.
Leave something to those who cared/looked after you in life by all means. The rest, treat youself.
We're only here for a visit.
I'm happy to sacrifice my enjoyment for the benefit of my family.
We're only here for a visit.
I'm happy to sacrifice my enjoyment for the benefit of my family.
Just all shows that this forum will disagree on about everything in this lovely old world of ours.
And you'll be there every step of the way stoking the fire eh FAFH
But we all agree that Betfair has lost its way. It used to champion the cause of punters. Now it champions the cause of shareholders.
Forget about BF for a minute and thik of this.....
If you had the most powerful telescope in the world and was able to look into other galaxies you would actually be able to see a star that no longer exists.
Now you might scratch your head at that one, but even though the star is extinct, it is still showing itself as a star because of the speed of light. ie. it has gone but it takes millions of years to reach us. (the light that is)
If you had the most powerful telescope in the world and was able to look into other galaxies you would actually be able to see a star that no longer exists.
Now you might scratch your head at that one, but even though the star is extinct, it is still showing itself as a star because of the speed of light. ie. it has gone but it takes millions of years to reach us. (the light that is)
So you're saying that someone, somewhere, will always have a quicker feed?
So?
Can I use that in some way to get an edge on BF ?
Can I use that in some way to get an edge on BF ?
The "Baltimore" referred to in the opening post is in Maryland U.S.A..It shouldn't be confused with Baltimore in West Cork, where the "Sack of Baltimore" by North African pirates, took place in 1631.
Mr Angry, if you fell into a black hole and survived you could genuinely time travel. (apparently, according to Hawking) If you could get back to earth, you would wipe out all the layers and even control the stock market.
I think maybe BF already does think it has a few time travellers on its site ?
you would wipe out all the layers and even control the stock market.
Sounds like Betfair.
Sounds like Betfair.
I'm not winding anybody up FAFH. Proffesor Brian Cox presented a good series on BBC recently. He used to be in a pop group, likewise Brian May of Queen. (he has a doctorate in cosmology)
Everything I know about the universe is self taught by reading and the fact that I'm fascinated by the subject.
As for reading the form, I was lucky enough to have an expert teacher. (albeit I have many bad losing runs)
Everything I know about the universe is self taught by reading and the fact that I'm fascinated by the subject.
As for reading the form, I was lucky enough to have an expert teacher. (albeit I have many bad losing runs)
Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour,
That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned,
A sun that is the source of all our power.
The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see
Are moving at a million miles a day
In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour,
Of the galaxy we call the 'Milky Way'.
Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars.
It's a hundred thousand light years side to side.
It bulges in the middle, sixteen thousand light years thick,
But out by us, it's just three thousand light years wide.
We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point.
We go 'round every two hundred million years,
And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.
The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding
In all of the directions it can whizz
As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know,
Twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.
And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour,
That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned,
A sun that is the source of all our power.
The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see
Are moving at a million miles a day
In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour,
Of the galaxy we call the 'Milky Way'.
Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars.
It's a hundred thousand light years side to side.
It bulges in the middle, sixteen thousand light years thick,
But out by us, it's just three thousand light years wide.
We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point.
We go 'round every two hundred million years,
And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.
The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding
In all of the directions it can whizz
As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know,
Twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.
Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour,
That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned,
A sun that is the source of all our power.
The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see
Are moving at a million miles a day
In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour,
Of the galaxy we call the 'Milky Way'.
Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars.
It's a hundred thousand light years side to side.
It bulges in the middle, sixteen thousand light years thick,
But out by us, it's just three thousand light years wide.
We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point.
We go 'round every two hundred million years,
And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.
The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding
In all of the directions it can whizz
As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know,
Twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.
You forgot to add that there are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on the earth.
And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour,
That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned,
A sun that is the source of all our power.
The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see
Are moving at a million miles a day
In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour,
Of the galaxy we call the 'Milky Way'.
Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars.
It's a hundred thousand light years side to side.
It bulges in the middle, sixteen thousand light years thick,
But out by us, it's just three thousand light years wide.
We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point.
We go 'round every two hundred million years,
And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.
The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding
In all of the directions it can whizz
As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know,
Twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.
You forgot to add that there are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on the earth.
"My CPU is a neural net processor - a learning computer."
"If you had the most powerful telescope in the world and was able to look into other galaxies you would actually be able to see a star that no longer exists."
Ahh but have you thought about the reciprocal. Kang and Kodos might be right this minute (their time) looking at the light leaving (our time) OUR star through their telescope, and we don't now exist (their time).
Ahh but have you thought about the reciprocal. Kang and Kodos might be right this minute (their time) looking at the light leaving (our time) OUR star through their telescope, and we don't now exist (their time).
For clarification, I'd love to bugger off and explore it all and one day, I will.
Been brought up on all the space stuff stewarty so a lot of that is second nature. Well worth enjoying it all.
FWIW Spaceweather.com is a fun site, updates stuff you can see on a daily (well couple of days usually) basis, as well as some more technical data as well, you can learn about all kinds of stuff from the simple to the really complicated with a visit there once a day. IMO
Been brought up on all the space stuff stewarty so a lot of that is second nature. Well worth enjoying it all.
FWIW Spaceweather.com is a fun site, updates stuff you can see on a daily (well couple of days usually) basis, as well as some more technical data as well, you can learn about all kinds of stuff from the simple to the really complicated with a visit there once a day. IMO
In 4.6 billion years time, the sun will stop burning hydrogen and helium and expand to engulf all the inner planets.
At that point, someone in Betfair Towers will shout "Crap, we should have charged 70%"
At that point, someone in Betfair Towers will shout "Crap, we should have charged 70%"
Ahh but have you thought about the reciprocal. Kang and Kodos might be right this minute (their time) looking at the light leaving (our time) OUR star through their telescope, and we don't now exist (their time).
You haven't quit grasped what I said JC. We do exist as you know. Having said that, you make a valid point. (I think)
I wont sleep tonight. (nap)
You haven't quit grasped what I said JC. We do exist as you know. Having said that, you make a valid point. (I think)
I wont sleep tonight. (nap)
I grasped what you said, telling me this stuff is like teaching your gran to suck eggs 
.
You don't appear to grasp what I'm saying : there's nothing special about us or now. In 5 billion years, our stars light, leaving this second, maybe being observed by someone else, and OUR star will be long gone. (Kang and Kodos are the aliens in the simpsons).
. You don't appear to grasp what I'm saying : there's nothing special about us or now. In 5 billion years, our stars light, leaving this second, maybe being observed by someone else, and OUR star will be long gone. (Kang and Kodos are the aliens in the simpsons
).
Actually JC I think I've come up with a theory that at least matches yours. Let me sleep on it and I'll get back to you tomorrow. (I wont be doing any googling)
Having said that, I wish I had Hawking's E.Mail address.
Having said that, I wish I had Hawking's E.Mail address.
I'm going to go star gazing.
Btw didn't think for a minute you were winding anybody up Stewarty.
Btw didn't think for a minute you were winding anybody up Stewarty.
JC, I've never seen an episode of the simpsons. (which might give me an advantage over you) [;)]
Imagine man ever dreaming of travelling to simply the next closest star, it would take 4 years at the speed of light, I think it takes about 1.5 seconds to get to the moon at that speed, so space explorers I think man will never be. Not to mention creating artificial gravity in the space craft to prevent the body wasting away.
Do you guys follow solar activity too? The Sun is at a fascinating stage right now, entering a period of low solar activity expected to last around 50 years, such as it did during the 17th century, a period known as the Maunder minimum (also called the little ice age) and a bit later during the Dalton minimum.
Solar irradiance (sunspots) and more importantly eruptivity is low, meaning low solar winds allowing greater cosmic rays to hit Earth's atmosphere, where it's believed they seed cloud formation and create an albedo effect, cooling the planet.
Last December was the coldest on record I believe, and winter months like that are set to become the norm according to many scientists. Forget the man made global warming nonsense, cooling is what we are going to get. Your subsidised wind mills will be about as effective as pissing in the wind.
Do you guys follow solar activity too? The Sun is at a fascinating stage right now, entering a period of low solar activity expected to last around 50 years, such as it did during the 17th century, a period known as the Maunder minimum (also called the little ice age) and a bit later during the Dalton minimum.
Solar irradiance (sunspots) and more importantly eruptivity is low, meaning low solar winds allowing greater cosmic rays to hit Earth's atmosphere, where it's believed they seed cloud formation and create an albedo effect, cooling the planet.
Last December was the coldest on record I believe, and winter months like that are set to become the norm according to many scientists. Forget the man made global warming nonsense, cooling is what we are going to get. Your subsidised wind mills will be about as effective as pissing in the wind.
Please, please don't anybody tell me that they bet according to what their star sign says for that day or month.
That woould be too much to bear.
That woould be too much to bear.
Lol Frog, there's a huge difference between astrology and astronomy :)
The solar activity subject is based on observable evidence, and that evidence is pointing worryingly towards another 'little ice age' period commencing now, just when pig headed governments are decommissioning essential coal fired power stations in the name of reducing harmless carbon dioxide emissions. Lunacy! There are winters of discontent ahead, it's a certainty. Cold is a killer and we are going to be unprepared because of the government's obsession with the myth that is man made global warming, namely the associated carbon taxes which of course is what it's all about.
I could go on and tell a few stories about the current great carbon trading scams, fraudulent activity is rife as you would expect when trading a product that doesn't actually exist for billions of dollars, but that's another story and I don't want to bore you all to death.
The solar activity subject is based on observable evidence, and that evidence is pointing worryingly towards another 'little ice age' period commencing now, just when pig headed governments are decommissioning essential coal fired power stations in the name of reducing harmless carbon dioxide emissions. Lunacy! There are winters of discontent ahead, it's a certainty. Cold is a killer and we are going to be unprepared because of the government's obsession with the myth that is man made global warming, namely the associated carbon taxes which of course is what it's all about.
I could go on and tell a few stories about the current great carbon trading scams, fraudulent activity is rife as you would expect when trading a product that doesn't actually exist for billions of dollars, but that's another story and I don't want to bore you all to death.
Didn't realise you were a climate change sceptic Trevh ?.
But as you say that's a whole different debate, not suitable for a general betting forum.
I hope for the polar bears' sake you're right though.
But as you say that's a whole different debate, not suitable for a general betting forum.
I hope for the polar bears' sake you're right though.
Trevh
Fascinating. Do you have a link to your climate change info please?
Fascinating. Do you have a link to your climate change info please?
I'm with you to a degree Trev.
It's difficult to link Maunder Minimum to the cooler periods because of the sample size of one and it's not certain the next 50 years will be another one after just one very deep 11 year minimum but it'll be interesting to see.
(Also, it will be proven that water churn from shipping is largely responsible for the human side of global warming within the next few years but that's stepping slighly outside my area of expertise and into someone else's that I know very well)
It's difficult to link Maunder Minimum to the cooler periods because of the sample size of one and it's not certain the next 50 years will be another one after just one very deep 11 year minimum but it'll be interesting to see.
(Also, it will be proven that water churn from shipping is largely responsible for the human side of global warming within the next few years but that's stepping slighly outside my area of expertise and into someone else's that I know very well)
Don't have much time right now, back later, but here's a couple of links (one of them a short video story from WUWT aimed at beginners) and a link from Archibald from 2008. Oh and Frog, polar bears are thriving in greater numbers than ever, I'm a bit surprised that you've apparently bought in to the propaganda (believe me it can all be easily debunked). I'll post up some more relevant info with regard to solar activity later if anyone's interested.
http://westinstenv.org/wp-content/Solar_Arch_NY_Mar2_08.pdf
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/07/07/a-mini-movie-in-blackboard-form-why-the-lefts-global-warming-agenda-is-wrong/#more-42882
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/
http://westinstenv.org/wp-content/Solar_Arch_NY_Mar2_08.pdf
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/07/07/a-mini-movie-in-blackboard-form-why-the-lefts-global-warming-agenda-is-wrong/#more-42882
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/
NE AS FROG HAIR
06 Jul 11 20:37
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Peace be with you Rocket.
At least you keep your calm all the time
06 Jul 11 20:37
Joined: 12 Mar 07 | Topic/replies: 2,983 | Blogger: FINE AS FROG HAIR's blog
Peace be with you Rocket.
At least you keep your calm all the time
"why-the-lefts-global-warming-agenda-is-wrong"
LOL. Well they're smart enough to hide the political motivation well, I expect the content will be similarly unbiased.
LOL. Well they're smart enough to hide the political motivation well, I expect the content will be similarly unbiased.
Lex, here's some up to date records and graphs of the Sun...
http://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/solar/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/solar/
...and this article from last September explains more clearly the link between solar activity and predictions of a cooling climate (worth a 5 minute read).
http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2010/09/say-goodbye-to-sunspots.html
http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2010/09/say-goodbye-to-sunspots.html
I've heard that the polar bear news is a little mixed actually. Some polar bear populations are doing quite badly, while others are doing well.
However, the polar bears doing badly are based in locations where the temperatures have continued to fall over the last two decades. The polar bears doing well have been in areas that seem to be heating up, so the idea that 'global warming' is killing polar bears seems dubious, to say the least..
However, the polar bears doing badly are based in locations where the temperatures have continued to fall over the last two decades. The polar bears doing well have been in areas that seem to be heating up, so the idea that 'global warming' is killing polar bears seems dubious, to say the least..
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